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raynmann
post Jan 10 2023, 11:02 AM

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disappointing with so much of downfall during covid.... made a dent to retirement saving


anyway, do you guys think rm3.5mil is enuff to survive?

approx 5% returns pa...
age 50


3.5mil x5% PA = RM14,500 PER MONTH
raynmann
post Jan 10 2023, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(kbandito @ Jan 10 2023, 11:03 AM)
depending on your age i suppose. I will need more for my age.
To use up the 14.5k every month and let your principal get eroded by inflation over time is scary af.
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my monthly expenses so far is only rm6k per month
raynmann
post Feb 3 2023, 01:23 PM

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guys , do u think rm3.5million can fire for a man 55 yrs old with a kid just entering college and overseas degree?
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post Feb 3 2023, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Feb 3 2023, 10:36 AM)
just an update from me.

no longer having slim FIRE now. back to work and hustle time.

recently bought a new landed house in KV under pressure by in-laws.

did a mistake by preparing a will and let my wife knows about my total asset. should have just inform my witness on where is the will located.

sometimes, plan cannot goes well in life laugh.gif
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remember, landed house higher maintainence- roof leaking - water pipes and etc

more space to fill up with furniture and stuff

will eat up a lot of your money

at 60, i plan to move to condo

raynmann
post Jun 22 2023, 10:57 AM

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need advise on this situation

Age 49
I kid = form 1 + 1 wife

Epf 2 Million
ASM 2 Million
Total 4 Million

Average interest dividen from both approx rm16K per month (5%pa)

Can survive with rm16k per month?


current mntly expenses approx rm7-10k per month max
raynmann
post Dec 5 2024, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 24 2024, 01:26 PM)
i still keep the same 3 asset classes but at different ratios due to different wants:

1. During retirement (now):
a. EPF to generate 50% of yearly cashflow usage
b. REITs (worldwide) to generate 50% of yearly cashflow usage
c. nonREITs / normal stocks (worldwide) to generate inflation beating returns

2. During work / active income:
a. EPF as Fixed Income allocation; 33%+/-
b. REITs (worldwide) as proxy for properties: 33% +/-
c. nonREITs / normal stocks (worldwide) as proxy to businesses: 33% +/-

Cash equivalent of 1 to 2 years' expenses are kept out of the above, in SSPN, Money Markets, FD, savings a/c,
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can i just retire with rm4.3 mil ? 2.8Mil in epf and the rest in asnb?

passive income of rm18-20k monthly
raynmann
post Aug 21 2025, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Aug 20 2025, 11:20 PM)
If I have 7mil n assuming average annual returns of 7%, I will drawdown 2% for expenses(11667/month) n leave 5% to counter inflation. My child will inherit the plan as I believe it will be hard to accumulate wealth from vocation in the AI n deglobalisation era. Need to pray that MY not becoming like Turkey.
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leaving 5% to counter inflation is a lot.

7 mil is also a lot

you r actually securing your future for even your grandkids


I am also planning for my kids.

So far hit 4.5 mil in kwsp/funds

My target in five years, 6 mil min and hopefully by chance might be able to reach 7mil if bonus is good/increment is good.


Long time ago, i thought 2 mil is enough.............. it is not


anyway, can retire by 55 is already good.
raynmann
post Aug 21 2025, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 20 2025, 08:45 PM)
For me, comfortable retirement means 4m for yourself & spouse + 1m as buffer, meaning total 5m

For more luxury retirement, it's 6m for couple only + 1m buffer.

All these with assumptions that kids are not reliant on you financially, no outstanding loans and your own residence

Of course this is just my aim or some say day dreaming smile.gif
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can give more details on luxury retirement?

i expect a monthly passive of rm25-30k pm in 5 years but i think most i can spend is only rm10kpm max. so money will just grow and grow
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post Aug 21 2025, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Aug 20 2025, 11:55 AM)
wah... so now it is 5 million to FIRE?

fat FIRE is it? cos the original definition of FIRE caters to moderate lifestyle with lowered expenses.

looks like "we" here mostly aiming for fat FIRE.
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you are wrong

its not fat fire

its safe fire


i tried to fire with 4 mil but its too risky. unsafe with situations such as covid and so on.

so work a little more to reach the 6 mil mark


with 6 mil with average 5%, will have rm25k to spend a month but max might only spend rm10k. the balance 15k will compound and generate interest.


then maybe every 5 years, rewards ownself with new sclass or 7 series.


but that is based on 5% only, epf gives higher so treat it like a bonus.

but children all will have better life lar, that is the main thing, bapa senang anak lagi senang.
raynmann
post Aug 21 2025, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Aug 19 2025, 08:03 PM)
No need see T20... many T5 I know also dun have 5mil of liquid assets (excl. hard assets like house/condo etc) to FIRE...

majority of FIRE here is just sembang kari ikan, ayamz still need to work in some way or rather...

for reason of pocket money la.. for killing time la.. boring la after few years.....etc...

majority still work coz they still feel financially insecure if one really look at the roots...
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you are at the wrong place.


t5 dont have 5 mil liquid assets? even t20 has it.

even if they have, do you think they will tell you?
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post Aug 21 2025, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 19 2025, 12:22 PM)
i fire at 50... waifu dun wan...

send her take lrt lor... save so much petrol n parking... lol...
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so you already FIRE?
raynmann
post Aug 25 2025, 10:00 AM

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so back to the topic.. will you guys FIRE say at 50 with

5 million cash providing 5-6% dividends PA?

say for a family of 4

 

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