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post Oct 7 2021, 11:31 AM, updated 2 months ago

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There was a similar discussed topic before, but the topic is closed now.

Starting here for me and others to share their experiences and their ideas about FIRE.

I am a single mum, and my only child schooling. I am in my late 40s, My plan now is going to FIRE.

I am not working already since last year because of the pandemic. And I don't plan to go back to work and will be doing my leisure things and charity works.

At the moment, my banking assets is around RM5million ( half in FD, rest in UT, KLSE). I got burn in KLSE this year because of gloves, and lesson learnt. I don't have any bank loans.

What i dunno what to do in my financials, should i look for a financial planner to help me plan?

What do ppl living in FIRE do with their money? tongue.gif

THanks

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post Oct 7 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(mytrader @ Oct 7 2021, 11:47 AM)
Hi,

A few parameters to define on your own for a quick evaluation :

1. What average yearly expenses vs your passive income generated from your investment / cash ? - Objective is to live off this rather than depleting into the funds / assets itself as best possible.

2. Medical insurance coverage to take care of the major financial risk

3. Your estate planning for your child (are you planning to leave him or her a sizeable inheritance or take the route they should be successful by their own self smile.gif ).

A financial adviser can help you to evaluate this and form a plan , but bear in mind it's best you have already a plan of what you want, use the FA for his skill and access to the financial instruments to achieve what you want.  Don't get pull in to what the FA wants to sell.
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Thanks for the quick reply,
1. At the moment my expense below my FD interest generate and dividend from KLSE companies.
2. At the moment my medical insurance still ok
3. When I pass, will sure leave all to my child .

QUOTE(real55555 @ Oct 7 2021, 11:47 AM)
You have 5million and if you do not wish to stress too much... dump all in FD also can get 100k per year at 2% p.a. Can live comfortably without touching your principal already.

But if you want to do more about it, do self contribution to EPF, can contribute to SSPN, can invest in some lower risk UT to enhance your returns.
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Thanks for the quick reply,

Yeah, was thinking dump all in FD, but with such low FD rate, am afraid it cannot cover the living inflation. Thanks for the reminder to self contribute to EPF, I am doing that for the past 3 years and will continue to do so yearly.
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post Oct 8 2021, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 8 2021, 12:37 AM)
For me I won't bother keeping money in Malaysia. But it's up to you. Reason is you don't want to hold a depreciating currency. Which means overtime your money buys less. Not to mentioned overtime your RM5M becomes smaller if you decided to dig into it.

I will open a sg bank account, transfer my money over slowly.
2nd step, open a good international brokerage.
FSM sg for buying sg stocks.
Interactive broker for buying overseas stock.
I don't recommend buying sg stocks but they are good for dividends especially their reits. They can give you 3-8%p.a.
Just buy parkway life, Fraser's logistics, Fraser's centerpoint, mapletree logistics, mapletree commercial, mapletree industrial, ascendas REIT, keppel DC REIT, keppel Pacific reits, prime reirs, United hamisphere reit and lastly elite commercial REIT (this is the highest quality reit as the tenant is the UK govt and paying I believed 7%p.a).
Non reits, Hongkongland, DBS/OCBC/UOB.

That's it. Beats any FD or any majority of unit trust in Malaysia. And protect your future purchasing power as well.

If you want more venture in HK market.
CKI infrastructure
CLP
Shenzhen international

Are all good picks. I used to owned them.

Never ever find a financial planner. They will con you into buying stuff you don't need. Majority of them are only interested in lining their own pockets as they are insurance agents/unit trust agents and are incentivise to sell products to generate commission. Hence already have conflict of interest. Do you ask a barber if you need a haricut?

Go and read up yourself. Plenty of blogs and YouTube video.
https://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot.com/
(see all the link at the side, read all of them except CPF which is not relevant to us).
https://investmentmoats.com/stock-market-in...ting-resources/
https://stestocksinvestingjourney.blogspot....f-dividend.html
https://stestocksinvestingjourney.blogspot....-of-saving.html

Some YouTube video I recommend
Andrei jikh
Graham stephan
Our Rich Journey.

I have read basically everything I shared aboved.

I leaned everything on my own. Nobody taught me anything. I self taught myself. Trust me I went for a preview financial planner stuff which gave a talk at my company, it was rubbish. They are telling stuff I already know and trying to make things complicated. To the  uninitiated, it was mind blowing. To me was just meh.Since that day, never. Besides financial planner won't be able to bring me to where I am today. But I thank the above as they were my teachers. Always remember live way below your means and keep things simple.
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Thank you everyone for your replies and suggestions.

What I really worried is our RM currency depreciation and inflation risk, so I am afraid the FD rates won't be sufficient.

What I will do now is read up and open a SG bank account, through CIMB MY and transfer my money in batches by Sunway Money.
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post Oct 8 2021, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 8 2021, 11:28 AM)
after you had transferred to Sunway money (to protect against MYR depreciation) then do what? let it sits there?
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I read SG Reits thread earlier. I going to monitor 2-3 reits ( the ones RamJade suggested) and put some money in SG reits.

I also thought of changing some RM here into USD tongue.gif
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post Oct 8 2021, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 8 2021, 11:47 AM)
how many % of your 5 millions are you gonna transfer out to protect it from depreciation?
if it is just 5 or 10%....then what about the depreciation of the rest of the 90~95% of your MYR?
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U got me thinking also, i haven't find out how can I bring big amount of RM to SG.

For the short term, will put most RM in MY FD and small amt to buy some blue chips (Maybank, SIME, etc)in KLSE.

My friend also told me to open Maybank gold investment account.
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post Oct 12 2021, 10:38 AM

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Great to see so many feedbacks and suggestions.

Hopefully, will see more individuals, leave their comments here what they do about their finances when they are FIRE.

For this moment, I will move some money into SG into SG Reits. Will still keep big portion in MY FD tongue.gif
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post Nov 9 2021, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Oct 7 2021, 11:31 AM)
There was a similar discussed topic before, but the topic is closed now.

Starting here for me and others to share their experiences and their ideas about FIRE.

I am a single mum, and my only child recently just started working. I am in my late 40s, My plan now is going to FIRE.

I am now working already since last year because of the pandemic. And I don't plan to go back to work and will be doing my leisure things and charity works.

At the moment, my banking assets is around RM5million ( half in FD, rest in UT, KLSE). I got burn in KLSE this year because of gloves, and lesson learnt. I don't have any bank loans.

What i dunno what to do in my financials, should i look for a financial planner to help me plan?

What do ppl living in FIRE do with their money? tongue.gif

THanks
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After a month from my first post here. What i have done is

- open a SG banking account and transfer some RM to SGD (10%). THinking to buy some stable bonds with around 3.75-4% coupons (Mapletrees)
- open my stashaway with 2 risk group (18% and 36%)
- bought Maybank and Public bank shares in KLSE this week.
- Renew my FD (after mature last week) 2.6% 12 months
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post Nov 11 2021, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 9 2021, 06:28 PM)
Don't bother with bonds. Go straight for their reits.
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Thanks. Will be watching Mapletree reits and Capitaland reits.

QUOTE(negayem @ Nov 11 2021, 08:36 AM)
FD at 2.6% is impressive. Mind sharing which bank. Thanks.
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Affin Bank
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post Aug 15 2025, 12:02 PM

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I have been FI for few years, and this week, I have been thinking my child's uni education, which going to happen in 9 years time.

I was wondering, what are the ways u guys are doing for yr child's uni education? Hoping I will be well prepared smile.gif
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post Aug 16 2025, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 15 2025, 06:20 PM)
you had 5 mil in 2021... guessing you have more now...

1 mil is more than enough for your kid's education today... setting 1-2 mil aside in fd should be way more than enough when the time comes...

i accumulated some usd in case my kids wanna go overseas, but they all chose to study in Malaysia... its not necessary but just an option fyi...

imho... you have more than enough funds... so dont need to risk more to earn more... preservation is the keyword...
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Yes, I have more than 5 mil now, but not like alot, did burn my self a bit in KLSE.

A big chunk is in FD yes, cause of the good rates, but now the rates are so low and next year might be lower.

my biggest worry is inflation lor.

I like one of the foruumer's suggestion, " spend like B40" tongue.gif


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post Oct 7 2025, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Oct 7 2021, 11:31 AM)
There was a similar discussed topic before, but the topic is closed now.

Starting here for me and others to share their experiences and their ideas about FIRE.

I am a single mum, and my only child schooling. I am in my late 40s, My plan now is going to FIRE.

I am not working already since last year because of the pandemic. And I don't plan to go back to work and will be doing my leisure things and charity works.

At the moment, my banking assets is around RM5million ( half in FD, rest in UT, KLSE). I got burn in KLSE this year because of gloves, and lesson learnt. I don't have any bank loans.

What i dunno what to do in my financials, should i look for a financial planner to help me plan?

What do ppl living in FIRE do with their money? tongue.gif

THanks
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I first started this thread exactly 4 years ago. I am 50 already. i spend most of my times with my child and doing volunteering work.

I am actually quite happy my financials (this I have to thanks everyone here for contributing ideas and suggestions) notworthy.gif

My financials is more than RM6 million now, I have no loan or mortgage. What I have been doing for the past 4 years is :
- minus amount of my FD, 30% of my portfolio
- only hold dividend paying and blue chips in KLSE (Maybank, Tenaga, RHB, IGBreit, PavReit)
- bought 3 SG banks and 3 reits in SGX
- bought gold (physical and etf), today is 10% of my portfolio

Again, Thank you everyone here wub.gif

This post has been edited by frostfrench: Oct 7 2025, 02:57 PM
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post Oct 7 2025, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 7 2025, 03:04 PM)
Why FD n not ASMx & EPF? 2% diff of 2mil is a lot.
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I just did my max self contribute to EPF for the past years, for the ASMs, I did have few, as you know, is quite hard to get now biggrin.gif

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