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post Aug 28 2025, 08:27 AM

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I support bro Ramjade in what he's doing. Among the active ones in here since 2010s.

Let me share something. Firstly, deposit taking is illegal in Malaysia. No need to go further in asking why and why cannot.

Risk appetite for everyone is different. Majority prefers a riskier option when young and safer ways when nearing retirement. It's just the way it is. There's no right or wrong.

Trading/selling/investing your money in a choice, there's pros and cons as usual. Again, there's no right or wrong.

At the end of the day, it's a choice. Ramjade is familiar with selling options. I don't and many in here as well. There are risks involved, he knows it.

Some are happy with FD returns. That's fine. ASNB/EPF? Better. Unit trusts? If you're happy with it is ok. Bonds? Sure. ETFs? Riskier but why not. Stocks? Not for everyone. Crypto? There are crypto bulls too.

No need to target him more by asking whys and whys. He has mentioned his strategies and reasoning quite well.

Salam Madani thumbup.gif .







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post Aug 28 2025, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Aug 28 2025, 08:50 AM)
he is putting everything he can actually... but needs to build up enough cash to buy 100 shares before he can starts selling options... so answer is 2 smile.gif
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1. He wants to get married. That needs money in the coming months e.g. dowry, deposits for catering, etc, in the short term. Btw, congrats Ramjade, finally after all these while saying not gonna be tied down biggrin.gif
2. Who knows, maybe a once in a lifetime honeymoon is being planned as well thumbup.gif
3. Other commitments, e.g. a new house perhaps and/or car icon_rolleyes.gif
4. Some spares for emergencies in short term for the above or related whistling.gif
5. Single no more thus future plans requires both inputs/plans. Wife pressuring a joint account to be opened with a certain sum for example rclxm9.gif

That's about what I can think of, maybe there's more.

Anyway, there's no guarantees in making money selling options. You risk more, you stand to lose more.
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post Sep 5 2025, 11:21 AM

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post Nov 4 2025, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 4 2025, 02:44 PM)
Depend what you want to look for. Original FIRE is getting there as soon as you can. That is what I follow.
If you want FAT FIRE and as fast as possible no choice.
If you want to take your time, it is not FIRE as likely normal retirement. FIRE means retire in your 30s or late 40s max.
If retire at 50 sorry la. That is not my definition of FIRE. I am already LEAN FIRE. I am aiming for FAT FIRE.
The point are 5 things
1. Get to the finish line as soon as possible. Do not enjoy the journey. Enjoy the very long finish line with the time you bought. Imagine retiring at 30+ FAT FIRE. You got a very long road ahead while your peers all slough and work like a donkey and you just be a unemployed person. Time kena owned by the company and not your own time. I don't want my time to be owned by anyone. If you live the life without it being own by anyone you will love it. I lived that life before.
2. Get FAT FIRE. Able to go anywhere, eat anything and move to any country. Total freedom. Don't like country A, pack up your bags and move. Not restricted by your money or destination. Be a digital nomad.
3. Support my biohacking to live a long healthy life and age gracefully. No meds at 60-70 years old.
4. Imagine no need to work and money continue to come in.
5. Imagine getting 10% raise a year automatically without any KPIs to meet. Which company can increase your pay by 10%p.a into perpetuity.

Many have done it, can be done. Just be patient. Many cannot tahan the hard life so try to find excuse by having so many deviations.
Part of it.
Yup can't do that. She will freak out and leave me if I suddenly do that. She told me she don't want guys who spend like that 😂

My mum will also me if I were to spend like that.
Depends on what you want lo. I would rather retire at 45 Vs 47 or 50 just because I spend more. But that's me. If can I want 40. But have to be super conservativem
Very worth it if you have live the FIRE life before. I have done it, I can do it again on larger scale.
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Something to ponder on…the Table below. (Source from YT video: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7sXA8Cn9cU] don't wanna embed the video in here because somehow my past videos embedded in here got removed blush.gif

PS: Don't ask me about the formulas and technicalities on how the table is derived biggrin.gif

But yes, I do support bro Ramjade. Still, I do agree everyone is entitled to live their own ways as long one is happy.

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post Nov 25 2025, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(renodiy @ Nov 25 2025, 10:50 AM)
hope we can get clarification on this probably by some bankers.
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While some of you guys in here already retired, looks like many not buying big ticket items or only buy cash that’s why it’s not an issue.

As for myself, I have faced this issue for more than a decade because being employed by a company not established in Malaysia. I have asked about ASNB as collateral, most banks don’t accept except there’s one bank that I came across (was it CIMB? Can’t quite remember) and it’s only limited to a certain percentage (maybe like 20% not as collateral but approval on amount to be able to loan I think…I don’t proceed so it’s not really a real transaction per se).

So for my case, yes it’s all about cash buy. I have asked the dedicated LHDN officer assigned to me (yes, I have one and I go to meet her every year. lol. What a life biggrin.gif) when we talked about this a decade ago. I buy cash not a problem in my case even big ticket items…in fact I paid cash for my > 100k car at that time. If the system flags my cash purchase, it will be directed to the LHDN officer assigned to me. She said my declarations all in order so there’s nothing to worry…except to save up big amounts if I wanna buy anything big sum. lol. Talk about being treated third class in own country as I can’t apply credit cards as well (I have existing since years back and those are ok. But I do know some banks allow but it’s a big big hassle to prove with supporting documents) and others.

Just sharing my experience here…not to brag. Cheers.
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post Nov 25 2025, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 25 2025, 01:43 PM)
While I'm not sure how getting loan will avoid raising red flag in LHDN, I personally don't think getting loan nor pay cash will cause the red flag. Almost every time of my big ticket item, I will get another audit from LHDN. Even the most recent my car also raising the red flag. I'm just employed and max out most of the reliefs, so almost no case for them to waste money on me. I'm not sure raising the red flag is called for audit or whether there is any other example of this.
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I bought 2 houses so far. The first one was 3rd year after working and I think it was a very big downpayment. I got LHDN letter asking where money comes from. Replied in writing (at that time no email yet. lol) Second one 30-yr loan and no letter received. Also bought 2 cars, first one loan and second one cash. Both no letter received.

From my conversation with the officer, basically big ticket will flash alarm but it will be directed to officer (Malaysia case usually grouped according to zoning). Officer will review and then decide whether to proceed or not to send letter. (Disclaimer: conversation took place more than a decade ago and nowadays new Govt new SOP may work differently biggrin.gif )

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post Nov 25 2025, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 25 2025, 01:56 PM)
And I think depends on which is your LHDN office only and unfortunately I use my hometown one and their officers seems to be having more time than should I change it back to where I'm working.
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I went through that in the past...been so long by now. I think you can go to the nearest office and talk to the officers to get your transferred over. Or was it based on your residence when filing...

 

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