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GeekinE90
post Sep 12 2025, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(126126 @ Sep 12 2025, 05:40 PM)
I have these props like you, i still count them as part of my NW. but if the assets are not productive i just lump them generally as non-investable assets. Reason being if circumstances change, say for some reason u are short of cash, you can still liquidate your props and go the rental route. In fact reverse mortgage may even become a norm in the future
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Home Flexi Loans are great tools for liquid cash. Basically, if your home is worth RM2m, take the max loan financing e.g. RM1.7m for it and put it back the full RM1.7m cash from the loan into the current account linked to the loan and zerorize the loan. Meaning you pay zero interest on the loan and now have a RM1.7m credit facility on demand. Some banks may charge you a monthly fee of RM10 for this type of facility, but its the cheapest facility for emergency liquid cash when you need it and you may have this facility for the tenure of your home loan. Then top it back up again and zerorize the loan once more when fresh funds come in.

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GeekinE90
post Nov 5 2025, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 5 2025, 01:04 PM)
Been there done that. I have live the LEAN FIRE life covered by my options income. My options income already 2x my annual salary already. Only suitable for single person. I walked away from a toxic Chinaman company without any job. That's why my supervisor was surprised. She said you can survive without job meh? I told her the truth and she said I have never seen someone so financially secured as you. My dividends already covered like 6 months of my pay already. AKA I am getting free 6 months bonus every single year.

The key is be aggressive in savings and investing. Invest in high quality asset and not high yield stock. Rinse and repeat. Every money you have, whether it is salary or dividends or option income keep reinvesting it. Let dividend growth do the heavy lifting. Who is going to increase your payment at 10-30%p.a?

I wouldn't get to where I am today and if I am not frugal to the max.
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If you have to constantly think about being aggressively frugal and saving money, it is not financial independence. True independence is never to have to think about money at all in all that you do.
GeekinE90
post Nov 5 2025, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 5 2025, 04:46 PM)
You can still live frugally when fire. Like my RM20k I don't need to spend that RM20k. I can survive on say RM5k. If you live lavishly suddenly you are asking for trouble.

Just because you can earn that much doesn't mean you need to finish spending it. It give you options to spend if needed.

A very good example. I don't need to change my phone every year even if I can afford it. I can use it until obsolete or until it kaput. Same with car. Just because I can get new car every year at RM20k/month doesn't mean I need to get new car every year.
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As long as you are happy, then really that is what matters I guess. For me I can never be happy if I have to always think about being frugal and saving money. Me and my wife don't think about money anymore, and it has been truly liberating.
GeekinE90
post Nov 17 2025, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Nov 12 2025, 07:13 PM)
I think once you are frugal for a long time, it will become a habit, it is hard to change the habit. Some people with frugal habit, even have 10million saving, if they are used to spending 3k per month, if a month over-spend extra rm10 they might feel guilty or uncomfortable.
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Nothing wrong being frugal if you are happy. There are many who find joy in saving on everything and don't enjoy spending. Usually, their kids will thank them in the future and buy the supercars etc as a result of their parents frugal lifestyle.
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post Nov 25 2025, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 25 2025, 02:43 PM)
While I'm not sure how getting loan will avoid raising red flag in LHDN, I personally don't think getting loan nor pay cash will cause the red flag. Almost every time of my big ticket item, I will get another audit from LHDN. Even the most recent my car also raising the red flag. I'm just employed and max out most of the reliefs, so almost no case for them to waste money on me. I'm not sure raising the red flag is called for audit or whether there is any other example of this.
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I have been buying my cars cash for well over a decade now and so far no issues or audit from LHDN (I currently have a few mil worth in cars - yes its one of my sins). Also if your taxes are in order, there is no fear of an audit. Some say it's troublesome or stressful but just send them whatever they want or need. You only need to stress and worry if you have something to hide.

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post Nov 25 2025, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 25 2025, 06:01 PM)
if you pay cash RM500k for a car, i think that is a red flag to LHDN.
i wont  pay cash 500k,, too risky unless you are paying tax that amount also  every year.

mind i ask how much cash you paid when buying a car, 1 car.
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My first car I bought cash was in 2012. It was around RM430k and even back then no audit letter issued to me. My more recent big car purchases have been over RM500k per car.

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post Nov 25 2025, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 25 2025, 06:09 PM)
you are in different league bro,
you are paying LHDN in hundreds of k a year
you are ok
but not most of us here..... biggrin.gif

i believe many in here also can buy car cash RM500k
but they wont dare do it if paying tax below RM100k a year
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Difficult to live stress free if you hide income from the taxman. Just pay what is due to the govt. You will live much happier and free.

 

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