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kevyeoh
post Jan 1 2023, 09:50 PM

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haha...comparing? that's the thing of the past for me already....come to realized...compare no end one...after compare one..then got another to compare... so happy i've come to realized that and no point comparing... biggrin.gif bruce.gif


QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 1 2023, 08:53 PM)
true, most important thing is you yourself feel contented and satisfied
enough.

but if we start comparing, wah he has that, how can i not have that......then no end to it..
not for kids la, wait till they can earn then only they should think about it.
Too frugal in cutting down on necessities tak boleh , no good
cutting down on luxuries for kids i think no harm.
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post Jan 1 2023, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 1 2023, 08:41 PM)
If you have showed them money does not drop from sky , they would be less likely to go that way.
So in your case  you are safe la.
i have 4 kids also control them dont just follow what they want or the mother wants.

You have money spoil them , later when they grow up earnings unable to sustain that lifestyle,
how?
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I don't have anak yet la. tongue.gif Tengah cari GF. My issue is the girl I am seeing kind of well to do and she quite frugal. But I need to tell her upfront I am not rich.
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post Jan 2 2023, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jan 1 2023, 09:50 PM)
haha...comparing? that's the thing of the past for me already....come to realized...compare no end one...after compare one..then got another to compare... so happy i've come to realized that and no point comparing...  biggrin.gif  bruce.gif
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good for you
comparing with others is natural human instinct
unavoidable
only thing is some never grow out of it
buying expensive things that he/she doesnt actually need.

If one asks, "I have the money, shall I buy?"
my answer is most likely you dont need it, dont buy



QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 1 2023, 11:13 PM)
I don't have anak yet la. tongue.gif Tengah cari GF. My issue is the girl I am seeing kind of well to do and she quite frugal. But I need to tell her upfront I am not rich.
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Good luck to you. Rich girl or poor girl doesnt matter,
most importantly is the attitude and trust on husband

i know of a poor wife not trusting her husband in many aspects when the husband did nothing wrong at all,
just sheer paranoia
the way she behaves was like inciting the kids to go dig as much money as possible from dad to buy the most expensive items .....

going to ruin the kids future that way.She herself has no savings at all, spend off whatever
given, just because husband doesnt want her know how much he has... she behaves that way!
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post Jan 2 2023, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jan 1 2023, 08:22 PM)
your money won't follow you into the coffin... some things in life are not just measured purely by how much money you have but what experience you have in life... can see you are the responsible type when it comes to finance so if you think you can burn 400k on a car, i'm sure after burning, you'll still be very okay financially...so go for it... i have seen people being very frugal and forgot to live and have a life before going 6 ft under...
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Like i mentioned that i am frugal but not to the extent that i have not enjoyed the fruits yet. i have been enjoying along the way. And found that there is still excess while i am already 60.
Spending 400k on a car will dent like 6% of my cash standing.
However, i have never spent 400k at a go before. i am not sure whether my mental capacity allows me to do so! laugh.gif
And i so not really care whether i drive a 400k car or wear a 100k watch.

The most enjoyable things i enjoy most is to be among my family and friends. Therefore i spend most of money on them. It's not too expensive most times.
i also spend on helping some of their children through higher learning amongst others.
So is you ask me maybe i will spend the 400k on helping them like so.

BUT i love travelling! Especially to meet up with family and friends in far away lands.

Spending 400k at a go is really a mental thing. laugh.gif
But if i do spend this on a car, i will get one in Australia where i do not have to pay exorbitant taxes on cars!
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post Jan 2 2023, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 2 2023, 07:49 AM)
Like i mentioned that i am frugal but not to the extent that i have not enjoyed the fruits yet. i have been enjoying along the way. And found that there is still excess while i am already 60.
Spending 400k on a car will dent like 6% of my cash standing.
However, i have never spent 400k at a go before. i am not sure whether my mental capacity allows me to do so!  laugh.gif
And i so not really care whether i drive a 400k car or wear a 100k watch.

The most enjoyable things i enjoy most is to be among my family and friends. Therefore i spend most of money on them. It's not too expensive most times.
i also spend on helping some of their children through higher learning amongst others.
So is you ask me maybe i will spend the 400k on helping them like so.

BUT i love travelling! Especially to meet up with family and friends in far away lands.

Spending 400k at a go is really a mental thing.  laugh.gif
But if i do spend this on a car, i will get one in Australia where i do not have to pay exorbitant taxes on cars!
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Love to get a hybrid camper van in Oz/NZ n travel around the country.
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post Jan 2 2023, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 2 2023, 08:05 AM)
Love to get a hybrid camper van in Oz/NZ n travel around the country.
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That's a thought!
One of my mates has already bought one. In Oz.
Maybe i will do that. Go around Oz in a camper. Wonder what my wife will say about that? laugh.gif
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post Jan 2 2023, 02:58 PM

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just chipping in my 2 cents...as I have similar thoughts as you before...


QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 2 2023, 07:49 AM)
Like i mentioned that i am frugal but not to the extent that i have not enjoyed the fruits yet. i have been enjoying along the way. And found that there is still excess while i am already 60.
Spending 400k on a car will dent like 6% of my cash standing.
However, i have never spent 400k at a go before. i am not sure whether my mental capacity allows me to do so!  laugh.gif
And i so not really care whether i drive a 400k car or wear a 100k watch.
Of course we don't look at the money here, back to the question if it's really your passion or not? example, let's say normally we don't spend RM10k for a TV when we can easily spend RM3k, but if you're someone who is very passionate and enjoy AV stuff, especially RM10k on an OLED TV which further enhance your experience, why not? Likewise for car, I'm sure the 400k car you are aiming should have some wow factor which you will discover and enjoy it...that's the problem with the mentality part...it's good you're frugal, but now it's stopping you from fully enjoying your life or something you are passionate about.... 6% dent? i'm damn sure the 94% balance confirm can last you until your next generation... don't regret later when you're in 80s and that time you wanna drive 400k car also no energy to drive anymore, not many ppl are like Tun M. This is one thing I realized also, all the money in the world cannot buy the time which have already past... 


The most enjoyable things i enjoy most is to be among my family and friends. Therefore i spend most of money on them. It's not too expensive most times.
i also spend on helping some of their children through higher learning amongst others.
So is you ask me maybe i will spend the 400k on helping them like so.
End of the day it's really what you want, so maybe you're not that passionate on the car...like my dad, he says he love SUV...even when he can already more than afford it, never also seriously go view and buy

BUT i love travelling! Especially to meet up with family and friends in far away lands.

Spending 400k at a go is really a mental thing.  laugh.gif
But if i do spend this on a car, i will get one in Australia where i do not have to pay exorbitant taxes on cars!
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post Jan 3 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 1 2023, 06:34 PM)
My son went to international school.and.now in college. He no Gip a Pak about brands and certainly don't follow herd. It's all about the parents upbringing.
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I have trouble explaining to my children that having both the parents taking afternoon nap with them every day is a luxury.
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post Jan 3 2023, 09:59 PM

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Hey guys has anyone here consulted financial planners for advice on your financial situation?

I’m referring to those independent ones without vested interests and whose compensation is fixed, not those linked to banks and funds etc. These are people with CFP or CFA

Would appreciate your opinions and experience if anyone here has tried their services.
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post Jan 4 2023, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jan 3 2023, 09:59 PM)
Hey guys has anyone here consulted financial planners for advice on your financial situation?

I’m referring to those independent ones without vested interests and whose compensation is fixed, not those linked to banks and funds etc. These are people with CFP or CFA

Would appreciate your opinions and experience if anyone here has tried their services.
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Only if your net worth is very big. Or else don't think it's worth it.
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post Jan 4 2023, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 4 2023, 12:46 AM)
Only if your net worth is very big. Or else don't think it's worth it.
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What is the minimum that is worth it?
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post Jan 4 2023, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jan 3 2023, 09:59 PM)
Hey guys has anyone here consulted financial planners for advice on your financial situation?

I’m referring to those independent ones without vested interests and whose compensation is fixed, not those linked to banks and funds etc. These are people with CFP or CFA

Would appreciate your opinions and experience if anyone here has tried their services.
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millions in asset yes. so each year return can make you 6 digit kind

if you only have 6 digit, forget about it.


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post Jan 4 2023, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(kbandito @ Jan 3 2023, 10:16 AM)
I have trouble explaining to my children that having both the parents taking afternoon nap with them every day is a luxury.
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money is not everything

thats why people only use money to measure how well they are

friendship
family
social support
health
ability to sleep
joy

all these is PRICELESS

Most rich people i know are very lonely, they worked super hard and now worried who are going to scam them. look at HK feng shui master, end up people fighting for his wealth.

so have good friends around you, they are your real forte, and in turn, share with them a tiny part of your wealth. for doing good will get more goods.


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post Jan 4 2023, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 4 2023, 07:34 AM)
What is the minimum that is worth it?
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Don't know. I am not tycoon or hnwi or uhnwi so it is of no concern to me.

QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jan 3 2023, 09:59 PM)
Hey guys has anyone here consulted financial planners for advice on your financial situation?

I’m referring to those independent ones without vested interests and whose compensation is fixed, not those linked to banks and funds etc. These are people with CFP or CFA

Would appreciate your opinions and experience if anyone here has tried their services.
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Can try CF lieu and lots of independent financial planner. Just Google. They are usually attach to firms. This kind of stuff better get sg version as they can offer better advise Vs Malaysia advisor.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jan 4 2023, 08:40 AM
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post Jan 5 2023, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jan 3 2023, 09:59 PM)
Hey guys has anyone here consulted financial planners for advice on your financial situation?

I’m referring to those independent ones without vested interests and whose compensation is fixed, not those linked to banks and funds etc. These are people with CFP or CFA

Would appreciate your opinions and experience if anyone here has tried their services.
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Having a CFP or CFA (more related to finance rather than personal financial planning) does not automatically make you a practicing financial advisor, ie: having the right to charge advisory fee. The CFP graduate still requires a CMSRL.

You will notice nowadays a lot of unit trust agents or insurance agent carry the designation of CFP or RFP but they are not licensed to charge an advisory fee unless they have a CMSRL.

The person you are describing is a fee only financial advisor. Check out MyFP Services Sdn Bhd. To my knowledge they are the only fee only advisor in Malaysia.

Best,
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post Jan 5 2023, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Jan 5 2023, 10:57 AM)
Having a CFP or CFA (more related to finance rather than personal financial planning) does not automatically make you a practicing financial advisor, ie: having the right to charge advisory fee. The CFP graduate still requires a CMSRL.

You will notice nowadays a lot of unit trust agents or insurance agent carry the designation of CFP or RFP but they are not licensed to charge an advisory fee unless they have a CMSRL.

The person you are describing is a fee only financial advisor. Check out MyFP Services Sdn Bhd. To my knowledge they are the only fee only advisor in Malaysia.

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I dont think they want to entertain poor person like me. They only want rich clients.
How about CF lieu?

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post Jan 5 2023, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 5 2023, 09:58 PM)
I dont think they want to entertain poor person like me. They only want rich clients.
How about CF lieu?
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unsubscribe him, a salesman than a financial planner.

he teaches very basic saving tips while showing off his house and cars in the US last time, as if they are super expensive.

his material is suitable to be taught in primary schools.

i think ramjade, you have better materials to share with us.
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QUOTE(gashout @ Jan 5 2023, 10:21 PM)
unsubscribe him, a salesman than a financial planner.

he teaches very basic saving tips while showing off his house and cars in the US last time, as if they are super expensive.

his material is suitable to be taught in primary schools.

i think ramjade, you have better materials to share with us.
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Actually I am looking for advisor for insurance. That's why I feel surely MyFP Services Sdn Bhd won't take me in. Cause I just want advise for insurance. Lol.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 5 2023, 10:25 PM)
Actually I am looking for advisor for insurance. That's why I feel surely MyFP Services Sdn Bhd won't take me in. Cause I just want advise for insurance.
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a qualified insurance agent should do the job, no?

but they shouldnt be hard selling their products. more like offering their knowledge to you.
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QUOTE(gashout @ Jan 5 2023, 10:26 PM)
a qualified insurance agent should do the job, no?

but they shouldnt be hard selling their products. more like offering their knowledge to you.
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Precisely. I want unbias advise to be my backup eyes.

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