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icemanfx
post Jul 25 2022, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 25 2022, 11:53 AM)
i don't doubt the abundance of these units. it's the moving that is the pain. unless we have super professional house movers like Tokyo that will take care from A-Z for you then can consider.
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Professional movers like those for expat is available locally.

QUOTE(negayem @ Jul 25 2022, 11:57 AM)
Paying loan plus interest is akin to paying rent but with final result of owning the house. After retire and almost finish using savings, can sell house and move to luxury old folks home as a back up plan. This works better with landed properties.
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Loan interest is a expenses or cost. Interest from saving, investment is profit or gain.
icemanfx
post Jul 26 2022, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 26 2022, 07:22 PM)
would you rent your apartment to a frail looking 70 year old man?
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If you don't, many others would. Old age pensioner is not known to pay higher for rental.

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icemanfx
post Jul 27 2022, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 26 2022, 07:30 PM)
dunno ler, my family said landlord don't like to rent to single old people.... risk of dying in their unit...

so owning a place, even if single .. is important lo....

Although I am inclined to rent , but as I get older, I do see their point....
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Chances to get unit bashed up, unpaid rental, etc is higher among the younger tenants. Landlord need to weight risks and decide.

QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Jul 26 2022, 08:41 PM)
Another thing is

Landlord can ask for a raise after contract and this will definately take a hit on your cost of living

And with a fully paid house, you have one lesser thing to pay after you've retired
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With supply > demand and more new supply, rental of most units is unlikely to rise in the foreseeable future.
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post Jul 31 2022, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(MattSally @ Jul 30 2022, 04:44 PM)
I have been forced into early retirement (age 58) by a combination of Covid-19 pandemic and a totally unrelated health issue.

My working life has been spent all over the world and, as a consequence, I have no personal pension but a reasonable pot of money to invest. At the moment, most of it is invested in PNB products and returning around 4% - which is enough to pay the bills but we would like just a little more, maybe 6%.

Any suggestions?
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Can talk to your bank r.m.


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icemanfx
post Jul 31 2022, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 31 2022, 08:37 AM)
That's the worse solution. Bank RM only interested in selling products.
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High yield bonds is not readily available elsewhere. Most privilege or premier banking r.m need to fulfill sale quoata. However, as a client need not take whatever they offer but choose what you want. Besides, one could shop around different bank for what you need.

icemanfx
post Dec 30 2022, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Dec 30 2022, 11:19 AM)
FI yes. no need to worry if jobless for 10 years.
RE not so fast biggrin.gif

definition of FI varies for every individual. one can achieve light FI like me, where owning an 500k apartment house, normal 2 numbers of toyota car and have 800k in reits and stocks, with 200k emergency cash to spare

some others is icemanfx, she may probably need rm50 mil to achieve FI to sustain her lifestyle
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40k a month doesn't need 50m.


icemanfx
post Dec 30 2022, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 30 2022, 11:33 AM)
Iceman, what's your lifestyle like?

Even 10k sounds a lot to me for retirement. Put aside emergency or health care fund. Unlese you're a keen traveler,
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Quality lifestyle is not cheap.
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post Dec 30 2022, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 30 2022, 11:45 AM)
I agree. But spending 1k a day is.. 😅
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Not really, only when traveling once every few months.

icemanfx
post Dec 30 2022, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 30 2022, 11:58 AM)
40k/mth is close to 500k a year

Even travel 4 times a year doesn't cost that much?
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Depending on what class of air ticket, where and how long you stay, what and where you eat and how often.

icemanfx
post Dec 30 2022, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 30 2022, 12:23 PM)
That's real quality lifestyle
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Contented is happiness.
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post Dec 30 2022, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 30 2022, 02:19 PM)
RM40k a month  lifestyle...
Struggling wage earners will pengsan see how you splurge there
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It is never hard to spend money. Indulging finer things in life is not cheap sad.gif

icemanfx
post Dec 30 2022, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 30 2022, 08:29 PM)
wah if married with kids and all going on that kind of lifestyle
how much saving would  you need man..
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assets, net worth not only saving.

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post Jan 1 2023, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jan 1 2023, 02:07 PM)
he dun spend on himself... but but
i am also thrifty person.
but once the kids come.. and they grow up.. then
the story line change..

Just yesterday my kids educate me the 3 types of ARMANI..

i answer them WHO CARES...? but but.. money not spend by me
but next generation will help to spend it...

as parents not easy to say NO...

Private school is no more for the rich... its like a necessity for all.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 1 2023, 03:12 PM)
You spoiled your kids liao. What are they doing with Armani???
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With friends from private or international school, ig, influencers, etc, brand conscious is almost unavoidable. The challenge is how to make them not to follow the herd.

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post Jan 5 2023, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 5 2023, 10:25 PM)
Actually I am looking for advisor for insurance. That's why I feel surely MyFP Services Sdn Bhd won't take me in. Cause I just want advise for insurance.
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Actuary.

icemanfx
post Jan 5 2023, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 5 2023, 10:48 PM)
Sorry?
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Actuary work out insurance premium, best people to advise on insurance.
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post Feb 2 2023, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 2 2023, 05:43 PM)
Was told these fields should last longer, robotics, machine-learning, AI.
Most worry is MYR devalued like some of the MiddleEast countries like Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Turkey. So must park some assets overseas.
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myr has been devalued steadily in the last 30 years. if gomen policy doesn't change, long term devaluation is likely to continue.

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post Feb 4 2023, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Feb 4 2023, 05:43 PM)
:blush_ani:  Takut mati tlg x retire!  bruce.gif

https://www.phillytrib.com/news/health/tips...1c53434e03.html

Retirement is a phase that most of us will experience. But should we just ride off into the sunset and accept retirement as a phase we all have to live with? In a study of Shell Oil employees it was found that people that retired at 55 and lived to be 65 died 37% sooner than those that retired at 65. They also found that people who retired at age 55 were 89% more likely to die within 10 years than those that retired at 65. Social Security data noted the trend, as well. Men that retire at 62 had a 20% higher likelihood of death than the general population.
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icemanfx
post May 18 2023, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ May 17 2023, 05:39 PM)
The person who starts FIRE has gone back to work....
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QUOTE(joshgm_119 @ May 17 2023, 05:43 PM)
For a little context

SOS
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In reality, very few in this country could fi and re.

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post May 18 2023, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ May 18 2023, 01:19 PM)
nice... only need 2.2 million ringgit to be T01 in Malaysia...
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Also mean about 99% of people net worth is <RM 2.2m and 99% people opinion and advise on investment, finance, etc is unworthy.

Except gomen servants, most people don't have perpetual pension, quality retirement life is a challenge to many. Fi/re is often promoted by mlm and money game to entice new recruits, is filled with many traps.

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post May 18 2023, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ May 18 2023, 03:23 PM)
I believe it is more of a statistical fluke.

Lets say a person has 10 million ringgit networth. 99.9% chance within the 1% population size.
but if said person's family size is 5 persons, then it becomes 2 million on average. 

then again, we don't know how Knight F calculate this, but the stats is not too inconsistent with the T20-M40-B40 income stats.
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'T20, M40 and b40' refer to household income not individual net wealth.

QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ May 18 2023, 03:38 PM)
Find it hard to believe

Think lots of politicians or people dont declare
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Reality could be hard to accept. This number is consistent with EPF, other ib wealth reports and number of people with privileges/priority/premier account.

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