the main problem here is isteri not working, which immediately drags down the household income to the KL/PJ median average (~8.5k)

if isteri gets a graduate job of 3k, it can up the savings rate significantly

barang dapur and makan harian should be combined, Rm1500

which actually is not bad. consider: minimum groceries per person per month is about Rm500-600, even if sendiri masak. throw in 1 Rm100 meal once a week for two, sampai budget already.

this bill/budget is fairly average middle class, in other words.

Yeah this is a killer you can’t carry another person on that salary. I think 20k is prob the minimum if you’re gonna let your wife stop working. Daycare isn’t that cheap either so she will need a job that pays a fair bit to cover that too.

bang, kau biar betul? takkan kau tak pernah bayar zakat pendapatan? roughly 0.025 dari gaji kasar/bersih (bergantung kau nak kira macam mana)

lagi satu, wife dia tak kerja, memang la husband dia bayar semua. wife aku kerja pun aku still bagi rm400 nafkah sebulan (gaji aku lagi rendah dari mamat ni), so tak payah kot pertikai bab tu. rm500 yg husband dia bagi tu, sekali pergi Sephora dah habis (takkan husband dia nak wife dia selekeh, ye tak?), nak beli tudung Duck lagi.

maybe dia memang naik motor pergi kerja, kau mana tau? tapi kalau hari hujan, dia naik la kereta. nak bawak family jalan2, bawak kereta. benda macam ni pun nak pertikai? RM300 sebulan tu aku rasa dah reasonable sangat

Many eggless men in this thread

Nafkah for isteri is wajib.

That coway 1 month bill enough to feed my water bill for half a year

why is road tax included in monthly commitment?

not once a year meh?

Try living with 1200 a month.

Cant even get married.

Can't even own a car.

Let alone pay your medical bill.

Sad

why is road tax included in monthly commitment?

not once a year meh?

the main problem here is isteri not working, which immediately drags down the household income to the KL/PJ median average (~8.5k)

if isteri gets a graduate job of 3k, it can up the savings rate significantly

barang dapur and makan harian should be combined, Rm1500

which actually is not bad. consider: minimum groceries per person per month is about Rm500-600, even if sendiri masak. throw in 1 Rm100 meal once a week for two, sampai budget already.

this bill/budget is fairly average middle class, in other words.

bang, kau biar betul? takkan kau tak pernah bayar zakat pendapatan? roughly 0.025 dari gaji kasar/bersih (bergantung kau nak kira macam mana)

lagi satu, wife dia tak kerja, memang la husband dia bayar semua. wife aku kerja pun aku still bagi rm400 nafkah sebulan (gaji aku lagi rendah dari mamat ni), so tak payah kot pertikai bab tu. rm500 yg husband dia bagi tu, sekali pergi Sephora dah habis (takkan husband dia nak wife dia selekeh, ye tak?), nak beli tudung Duck lagi.

maybe dia memang naik motor pergi kerja, kau mana tau? tapi kalau hari hujan, dia naik la kereta. nak bawak family jalan2, bawak kereta. benda macam ni pun nak pertikai? RM300 sebulan tu aku rasa dah reasonable sangat

Thats ur own problem. U need to study harder and get at least uni degree. Eveeyone keep complaining salary low, but never look at a mirror and ask yourself why salary low

Must be nice to study harder and get a degree.
I know  I can't afford that. At least I work hard so my brother and sister can.
Must be nice to look at your  self in the mirror everyday.