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post Sep 18 2021, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(jcheong @ Sep 18 2021, 01:00 PM)
Yesterday one Evergrande buyer wanted to jump off level 14 and another took one of their staff as hostage, better do something now.
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A few ppl 14th floor isn't big deal.
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post Sep 18 2021, 01:16 PM

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I’ll say no need to help help evergrande. It’s fucking 300bil mistake that they made and over confident
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post Sep 18 2021, 01:19 PM

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whatever recommended by TS will become a curse... i dunno why.
anyhow, still thanks to TS another hints.
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post Sep 18 2021, 01:31 PM

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From the news, will know the company really scum bag, even ask their own staff to put money at company. Something like company bond similar like FD with promise interest. While the protesters there lost their hard earning, the management already cash our prior to this.
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post Sep 20 2021, 08:41 PM

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Sohai... Today and tomorrow is CCP holiday. Where got CCP pump money. Tipu
Imp Bron
post Sep 20 2021, 09:00 PM

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Repair the bubble so it burst later make sense?

That just delay the inevitable
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post Sep 20 2021, 09:01 PM

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DJI plunged, no worry, easy peasy, sharks waiting buy the dip. Price stabilise
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post Sep 20 2021, 09:02 PM

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ccp not pump money into EG la...
ccp pump money into bank to soften the impact once EG fall down...
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post Sep 20 2021, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Imp Bron @ Sep 20 2021, 09:00 PM)
Repair the bubble so it burst later make sense?

That just delay the inevitable
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Own self pop bubble, then politically control it.
And maybe split into smaller unit.

The objective is to control housing price anyway.
While killing political opponent.

This post has been edited by ctrl_alt_del: Sep 20 2021, 09:05 PM
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post Sep 20 2021, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(Messiahword @ Sep 18 2021, 10:20 AM)
Looks like Holland period is over.
Get ready Monday bull limit up !!! Huat arhhhh investor confidence will be back!!!!!

Don't say no inform early !💪💪🤑
China pumps $14bn in cash into market amid Evergrande crisis
The move comes as the trouble facing China’s Evergrande Group fuels investor concern over the health of real estate and credit markets.

Disquiet over the fate of China's Evergrande Group comes at a time when China’s economy is already slowing [File: Chan Long Hei/Bloomberg]
Disquiet over the fate of China's Evergrande Group comes at a time when China’s economy is already slowing [File: Chan Long Hei/Bloomberg]
By Tian Chen and Tania ChenBloomberg
17 Sep 2021
China injected more cash into its banking system in a sign authorities are seeking to avert a funding squeeze amid a seasonal rise in financing demand and the intensifying debt crisis at China Evergrande.

The People’s Bank of China added 90 billion yuan ($14 billion) of funds on a net basis through seven-day and 14-day reverse repurchase agreements on Friday, the most since February. Today was the first time this month it added more than 10 billion yuan short-term liquidity into the banking system on a single day.
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The move comes as the trouble facing China Evergrande Group fuels investor concern over the health of real estate and credit markets. Adding to the stress is a seasonal spike in demand for cash as banks are hesitant to lend toward the end of the quarter ahead of regulatory checks. Liquidity also tends to diminish at this time of year ahead of a one-week holiday at the start of October.
“Avoiding a systemic liquidity squeeze is the absolute priority for the PBOC and it has means to do so,” Societe Generale SA economists led by Wei Yao wrote in a research note.  “A Lehman-style financial-market meltdown is not our top concern, but an extended and severe economic slowdown seems more probable.”

Still, the PBOC’s operations have yet to push money-market rates lower. The seven-day repo rate, an indicator for interbank borrowing costs, jumped 14 basis points Friday to 2.4%, the highest since June 30.

Disquiet over Evergrande comes at a time when China’s economy is already slowing. Strict movement controls put in place to curb Covid-19 outbreaks have hurt retail spending and travel, while steps to cool property prices have also taken their toll. On Wednesday, the country reported a sharper-than-expected slowdown in retail sales in August, along with weaker growth in industrial production and fixed-asset investment.

The PBOC is seeking to strike a balance between stimulating the economy and making sure its cash injections don’t result in asset bubbles. Since July, it refrained from adding additional medium-term liquidity as policy loans come due.

On Friday, the central bank injected 50 billion yuan through its seven-day reverse repos, and another 50 billion yuan via 14-day contracts, which haven’t been used since February. Some 10 billion yuan came due Friday.

“It’s fair to say that the Evergrande situation and its repercussions on the broader property market will have a far greater direct impact on Chinese growth than any of the other regulatory crackdowns,” said Alvin Tan, head of Asia foreign-exchange strategy at Royal Bank of Canada in Hong Kong. “I would not be surprised that the PBOC is acting to contain the fallout in the money markets.”

The uncertainty over Evergrande is spurring China watchers to game out potential worst-case scenarios as they contemplate how much pain the Communist Party is willing to tolerate. Pressure to intervene is growing as signs of financial contagion increase.

Numerous industries could be exposed to credit risks if Evergrande was to default, Fitch Ratings warned. It said smaller banks and vulnerable developers would be hurt the most. With more than $300 billion in liabilities, Evergrande’s liquidity stress is stoking worries over the broader Chinese property industry. Both Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs slashed forecasts for the industry citing the potential of an Evergrande default to roil its suppliers, other developers and financial markets.

Much hinges on how big the real-world impact winds up being on the wider property sector, which is key to the Chinese economy. Risks are growing that consumers could retrench further as the company falls behind on promised construction work and faces repayments on wealth management products sold to individuals.

SOURCE: BLOOMBERG
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Selloff just started
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post Sep 20 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(SinzChan @ Sep 18 2021, 11:55 AM)
300bil debt company but pump 14bil cash into market to cushion the damage?

so it is confirm that evergrande going to the bankrupt route ady la
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So far ccp already dump 100 billion.
And i think there west are aware that 300 billion isn't an issue for China, China and Hong Kong reserves are considered together, the total is $3.87 trillion.

= 3870 billion. That's why no shark in the west dare to make any move attacking the markets. We don't know what's ccp stands and how's the talk between the owner and xi goes.

Hui be good boy, evergrande will be save, hui be the bad boy, his companies will go down together with him.

Jack ma is smart to give up without fight.

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post Sep 20 2021, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Sep 20 2021, 09:10 PM)
So far ccp already dump 100 billion.
And i think there west are aware that 300 billion isn't an issue for China, China and Hong Kong reserves are considered together, the total is $3.87 trillion.

= 3870 billion. That's why no shark in the west dare to make any move attacking the markets. We don't know what's ccp stands and how's the talk between the owner and xi goes.
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Got la, George Soros got burned + penalty last time.
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post Sep 20 2021, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Sep 20 2021, 09:12 PM)
Got la, George Soros got burned + penalty last time.
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Teach them a lesson, this time no one dare make any moves. Everyone on leash, it is clear CCP started the saga, and they dump 14 billion as early warning to the sharks out there. They are facing a whale.

Seems like they punishing hong kong as well while at it.

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post Sep 20 2021, 09:28 PM

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Its time to buy into those sector heavily supported by 14th 5 year plan while overall market is red. Not suggesting property stock as gov is trying to control property price. Already told some time ago, property is not for flipping, its for ppl to stay.
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post Sep 20 2021, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Sep 20 2021, 09:03 PM)
Own self pop bubble, then politically control it.
And maybe split into smaller unit.

The objective is to control housing price anyway.
While killing political opponent.
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Smart smart, hopefully that works
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post Sep 20 2021, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Messiahword @ Sep 20 2021, 09:01 PM)
DJI plunged, no worry, easy peasy, sharks waiting buy the dip. Price stabilise
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DJI terjun again. see how murica counter this 1st.
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post Sep 20 2021, 10:37 PM

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wow. messiah is really good. Once open mouth, evergrande stock jatuh lagi.
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post Sep 20 2021, 10:40 PM

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Luckily do opposite. Tq messiah
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post Sep 20 2021, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Sep 20 2021, 09:03 PM)
Own self pop bubble, then politically control it.
And maybe split into smaller unit.

The objective is to control housing price anyway.
While killing political opponent.
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But most chinis treats real estate as investment and bought 2 -3 flat for themselves and now rather than appreciate it depreciate like properties on Cyberjaya & JB. How?
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post Sep 20 2021, 10:49 PM

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CCP is there to kill the big shark tycoons which keep on goreng property prices.

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