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NAS placement and realistic NAS speed over unifi, 100mb dl/50mb up
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TSmystvearn
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Sep 13 2021, 10:38 AM, updated 5y ago
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Using the 100 mbps download and 50 mbps unifi speed. Netgear R7000 router has 1 gb ethernet port. Wifi off. TPlink E4r mesh wifi has 2x100 mbs ethernet port. WiFi Speeds: 5 GHz:-867 Mbps (802.11ac) 2.4 GHz-300 Mbps (802.11n) Synology DS420+ NAS.
Realistically, even on 1 gb ethernet connection to the NAS, it will not saturate the NAS because of the unifi speed right?
I am planning to connect my NAS to the E4 mesh wifi over the 100 mbs. The mesh router is at the walkway. The router is in the bedroom. I can put it at the Netgear R7000 router which has 1 gb ethernet port, though I don't think it makes any big difference since the mesh wifi is connected to the router via wired in AP mode as mostly it is used to backup from mobile office via cloud. Since I am WFH for now, I think there will be a difference if I just backup locally and not through wifi if I place the NAS at the router and not the mesh wifi. However my pc is connected to the internet wireless. So at most, I'm getting whatever speed the E4 allows. If I was using the NAS remotely, I am still at the mercy of whatever unifi speed has and will not saturate the 100mbs right?
This post has been edited by mystvearn: Sep 13 2021, 12:19 PM
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tyja
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Sep 13 2021, 12:50 PM
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If u r using docker to host pihole or adguard home, it will have spike latency while you doing some backup.
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TSmystvearn
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Sep 13 2021, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(tyja @ Sep 13 2021, 12:50 PM) If u r using docker to host pihole or adguard home, it will have spike latency while you doing some backup. For now using to backup work documents. Media from mobile devices. Not streaming any items yet. First time into NAS. Still waiting for Synology to arrive. Work related documents have >1TB because of pandemic. Onedrive Enterprise only give 1TB. Need to put less crucial items on NAS first.
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go626201
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Sep 13 2021, 02:17 PM
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U not going to use DSM7 right? From what I know,DSM7 cant work with USB Wi-Fi adapter now.
If u connecting NAS within your home network,then the speed is not limited by unifi,it is depends on your local newtork.
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TSmystvearn
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Sep 13 2021, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(go626201 @ Sep 13 2021, 02:17 PM) U not going to use DSM7 right? From what I know,DSM7 cant work with USB Wi-Fi adapter now. If u connecting NAS within your home network,then the speed is not limited by unifi,it is depends on your local newtork. Using wired. Both router and mesh wifi have ethernet port. Just wondering if it makes any difference putting it on the mesh wifi end and not router end. unifi is 100mbs download, 50 mbs upload. Mesh wifi port is 100 mbs not 1gb. Router is 1 gb. Technically port on mesh wifi will be slightly slower because has to pass router first. If there is a significant difference, then I will put it at the router end. Then maybe 3 years later, invest in Wifi 7 router if it means I can get rid of the mesh wifi setup.
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acbc
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Sep 13 2021, 02:47 PM
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NAS + WiFi = bad combo.
NAS should be wired and the speed depends on the LAN. If over the Internet, it will be the Unifi speed.
My DS-1010+ on a Gigabit network has a throughput of 101MB/sec when copying files below 500MB over the wired network. If over WiFi, it will be 15-20MB/sec.
My setup is AX20 for the router and Deco M4 for mesh. All my devices are Gigabit ready and connected together via several Gigabit switches.
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TSmystvearn
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Sep 13 2021, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 13 2021, 02:47 PM) NAS + WiFi = bad combo. NAS should be wired and the speed depends on the LAN. If over the Internet, it will be the Unifi speed. My DS-1010+ on a Gigabit network has a throughput of 101MB/sec when copying files below 500MB over the wired network. If over WiFi, it will be 15-20MB/sec. My setup is AX20 for the router and Deco M4 for mesh. All my devices are Gigabit ready and connected together via several Gigabit switches. Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm connecting it via wired on both ends. Not connecting it through wireless. It just happens that my TP link mesh wifi is used in AP configuration and not router mode (default) replacing the router. Just extending the wifi range. It also happens that the TP link has 2 Ethernet ports. In AP mode, I can access the router's control panel via wireless through the TP link.
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acbc
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Sep 13 2021, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Sep 13 2021, 02:54 PM) Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm connecting it via wired on both ends. Not connecting it through wireless. It just happens that my TP link mesh wifi is used in AP configuration and not router mode (default) replacing the router. Just extending the wifi range. It also happens that the TP link has 2 Ethernet ports. In AP mode, I can access the router's control panel via wireless through the TP link. Means u want to connect the NAS to the E4 secondary LAN port, correct?
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TSmystvearn
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Sep 13 2021, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 13 2021, 03:12 PM) Means u want to connect the NAS to the E4 secondary LAN port, correct? Yes. The are few reasons I'm doing this. The router is in the bedroom, the mesh wifi is in the dining room. Plan to mount it on the wall near the ceiling.Also better air circulation compared to bedroom.
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acbc
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Sep 13 2021, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Sep 13 2021, 03:41 PM) Yes. The are few reasons I'm doing this. The router is in the bedroom, the mesh wifi is in the dining room. Plan to mount it on the wall near the ceiling.Also better air circulation compared to bedroom. The E4 mesh is on wireless or wired backhaul? If wireless, the speed will be based on the wireless speed between the master E4 and slave E4 and will not get consistent throughput when copying large files over 500MB. Smaller files below 5MB should be ok. NAS should be a ventilated cupboard or wardrobe with proper ventilation. Safer and away from accidentally knocking it over.
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TSmystvearn
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Sep 13 2021, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 13 2021, 03:48 PM) The E4 mesh is on wireless or wired backhaul? If wireless, the speed will be based on the wireless speed between the master E4 and slave E4 and will not get consistent throughput when copying large files over 500MB. Smaller files below 5MB should be ok. NAS should be a ventilated cupboard or wardrobe with proper ventilation. Safer and away from accidentally knocking it over. Wired since it is the main unit.
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linkinstreet
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Sep 13 2021, 07:15 PM
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Red Bull Addict
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If your NAS is in your internal network, take out your Unifi speed in the equation. You will be limited to whatever speed you are connected internally (1Gbps or 100Mbps Ethernet, or Wifi).
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TSmystvearn
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Sep 13 2021, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Sep 13 2021, 07:15 PM) If your NAS is in your internal network, take out your Unifi speed in the equation. You will be limited to whatever speed you are connected internally (1Gbps or 100Mbps Ethernet, or Wifi). I'm setting it up to be mostly from the external backups. But yes, I can see that as a problem. I have 27 connected devices in total, 3 WFH users, 3 streaming online content devices range from iot, cctv wired and wireless, smart TV etc. There was a time when 3 users had to webex but the line was fine. Around 30mbs/usser. Still within the 100 mbs. I've downgraded from a 300 mb package since I noticed that even with 3 users during the daytime and 4 at night, people consume the bandwidth at different times. Most likely I am the only one transferring large amount of files but does not disrupt others. There are some big files of work related files up to 35 gb, but this is for storage since all media is already on YouTube. I will try with this setup first. If disrupts the overall line quality, then I will upgrade the router to a WiFi 6 with higher range and keep the mesh wifi. Current Netgear R7000 only covers 85% of the house.
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