Civic E	RM 125,634.64
Civic V	RM 138,043.36
Civic RS	RM 144,350.09
COROLLA 1.8G	RM 134,505.00
COROLLA 1.8E	RM 123,971.50

huge toss up imho

Civic
pros
new global platform
euro conti like interiors
1.5L improved (not all new) L15B7 engine with actual VTEC Lift on exhaust for this version on the FE Civic (year 2015)
Honda Sensing comes standard to easily justify that 10k over Altis
Cons
E spec is a lot of cutting corners to really squeeze that pricing and margins
Honda after sales leaves a lot to be desired


Corolla Altis
pros
Toyota reliability and after sales
competitive pricing
Cons
OMFG dated 2007 - 2016 or 2017 engine / drive train (dynamic force WHERE?!)
CBU thailand not Japan imho is just abang adik than CKD here and imho, just blindly paying tax just cuz CBU

Sauce
https://paulinetan.org/2019/10/09/2019-toyo...ed-in-malaysia/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_L_engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Corolla_(E210)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_ZR_engine#2ZR-FE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_ZR_engine#2ZR-FXE (hybrid)

let me shake the trend a bit from Mazda 3 owners justifying their purchase > I am a (future) "co" (wife) owner (or more like, ahmad/driver) justifying wife's purchase
I am someone who's into tech and innovation and most of all, appreciates driving pleasure and enjoyment.
And with that, the Civic vs Altis base to base specs imho Civic is a clear winner here.

oh yeah high 5 lol
same here E spec

Car invest what lol

Wife just wanted to replace her previous aging HRV

i only lurking past few days since wife decided recently only, so catching up on 30+ pages of mostly bullshit, but some decent gem posts such as the new/old ish FE engine comes with Variable valve lift - VTEC KICKED IN YO! lol

well similarly to my family here, as we kinda decided to get the FC during pandemic, but in the end decided not to proceed due to many reasons, not just the pandemic.
as reality goes, car price is not going to get any cheaper unless something drastic changes on our gahmen/NEP/taxation.
the price is not just creature comforts, some of the engine components (the lesser parts like radiators/water tank etc are fully outsourced to Thailand.)
If i'm not mistaken the FC still had Denso Malaysia (correct me if i'm wrong though)

but yes, with chassis improvements and Honda Sensing, FE is definitely a safer car no doubt about it.
the bright LED and smoother/better/earlier power on tap will also help on being safer

yea better than nothing lo XD

thanks for sharing the pics! i think i saw them on savagegeese video, didn't took screenshot though and now you attach them

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oh yeah! first image rear fender REALLY BEGS the question ESPECIALLY after i've seen in person at show room: WHY NOT THE FRONT FENDER TOOOOOOOO??!?!?!?!?!?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jan 18 2022, 04:34 PM

want to take advantage of SST rebate and low interest rates

7-8 years HRV needing many wear and tear replacements doesn't do much favor either.

not mine, tumpang glamour/kepochi je

muhrica also have the 7" TFT screen ma

to me, and most (more hardcore) enthusiasts, the less choices you get

electronics replacing actual mechanical connections
x by wire, brake by wire
fake vents fake engine noises
age of electrification and eventual decline/death of internal combustion engines.

outside aftermarket many better price vs performance options lol
I'm on the 70Mai A800 / first original model (i think now is called 1s / facelifted into additional colors) and both have been performing splendidly without issues.

i believe its very straight forward panel removal via those soft plastic tools/pry bars

or they can just stuff the wire in gaps of panels without even any removing.
the HRV was most challenging to fit the rear camera because of the hatch design, we had to remove many panels to access the rear wiring weather proofed grommet to have the camera wired to the rear hatch windscreen.

Sedan/Coupe without this issue, waaaay easier.

yes both cars we DIY/DIT (together) our dashcams lol

Cigarette port, we buy UGreen charger from Lazada so still can have additional cable/USB to charge phone.

My wife similar however surprisingly very open to DIY for the dashcams lol! (She worry outside break her plastic trims and affects resale value.

You can ignore those especially if not planning to drive forever and place importance in resale value

Our opinions definitely differs a lot and almost speaking in different language as I'm a Motorsports enthusiasts and prefer driving 3 pedals (also a dying breed in cars) and (used to) participate in Sepang track days until reality slapping me hard needing to stop and go back to basics and strengthen my financials and wealth.

For your post anyways, it is no worries because they will add more stuff and call it upgrades.

Example: 7" TFT screen now, 2-3 years later facelift WOAH NEW 10" SCREEN UPGRADE! (Lol!)

No brainer if money no issue.

Yes more than enough

Agreed bro!

Old cars pop up means more choices! Old cars for me is legendary JDM's that APPRECIATE in prices and thus limiting my choices as I'm not at a level that money is no object

Understandable from your point of view because I was/and still am a tech guy (that's why I wanted some tech in my car and this chosen my car and really encouraged my wife on this FE)

I was only a car enthusiast around 2008/2009 and into Motorsports 2012-2013 ish

PBB 2.28 45K 7 years (a bit meh lol, but agreed and signed regardless)


Thanks for the sharing!

Where's this?

If you going 70Mai A800, seriously no need worry. It's really simple and only need one USB port don't care from car or from cigarette port unless you smoker and you must use that port port for your ciggies.

My wife decision was based on my test drive experience on the FC TC (not even TCP lol)

For A800, only 1 USB needed

That's E right?

Honda CKD paints (more specifically, its clear coat) has been notoriously thin and soft.

This is the cheap method to make the color/base coat "pop" and look better.
The expensive methods are better/thicker clear coat along with better curing methods that most CBU cars or Conti cars have.

Beware of too much polishing/compounding as well -thin clear coat would mean you'll run through it very fast until the base coat.

yes, CKD Mazda also just as bad, if not even worse than Honda considering you need to pay extra for their premium "soul red" color (and another, or few other premium colors LOL!)