QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 23 2025, 04:24 PM)
How much if u know?LYN Honda Civic FE 11th Generation v1
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Feb 23 2025, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Feb 23 2025, 05:14 PM) QUOTE(isr25 @ Nov 2 2024, 11:57 AM) If anyone is interested to know, just received the email from Honda for Connect renewal. It’s RM149 for 1 year and RM329 for 2 years - Both early bird pricing I just renewed mine for another year. Doesn't make sense the 2 years package is more exp than the 1 year. Next year I'll evaluate again lol![]() ![]() |
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Feb 24 2025, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 20 2025, 05:43 PM) Autobuzz or Eugene reviews cars for a living and I see that he / they have nothing bad to say about bad cars.The real question should be who reviews their reviews for a living? Here is a non exhaustive list of people I don't trust: People who review cars just to make content and clicks. And then they have no other apparent job other than that, then their job is more like a freelance car salesman. PauTan TaiC.Yee Autob*zz B*bbyAng automachy yskhang msiamotoring ...the list is long Here is one that dare to tell you or at least hint you: The Piston Show But refer my question above. They are all fallible. Consider ALL of them actors in a TV show just saying things according to script. They do not reveal the script writers so assume the script comes from people who will benefit from them IE vendors. For the case of Honda malaysia cars, remember that the CBU Speccing is actually different from US / International (Which you can sometimes trust their reviews because some of them plain condemn a car for 30 minutes straight). Most obvious is the sound proofing. Next is airbag design. If any International spec car is as loud as the local Civic it will be outright called out. And the second part which is dangerous to your life is Honda Malaysia rejection of warranty and safety related defects - Steering rack. Worldwide recall upside down, Malaysia one will say no issue. Reject your claims and ask you to risk your life on the road. Good 6 months after the issue blow up they will silently say there is an "update", and then 3 months later only then the RTD will repeat the same thing for good measure. |
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Feb 24 2025, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 24 2025, 09:21 AM) Autobuzz or Eugene reviews cars for a living and I see that he / they have nothing bad to say about bad cars. from what I recall, all local YouTubers, personal or company, are not brave enough to criticize any car given for reviews. Worst, Continental give them 4 new donuts, they praise that junk tyres as good as Michelin PS series but at lower price. This was started since UC6 era, MC6 era, where in truth, both model tyres just don't have wet tyre grips vs other good branded tyres, but they keep on saying only great thing for both tyre model. In FB on personal as well as Car Group, many shared the same situation for both UC6 and MC6 for wet traction, where both are Poor, it just not grip, only cons is quieter and dry ok. Now if u watch local Youtubes, they play the same game for UC7 and MC7, cz Continental Malaysia sponsored them new donuts, lol.The real question should be who reviews their reviews for a living? Here is a non exhaustive list of people I don't trust: People who review cars just to make content and clicks. And then they have no other apparent job other than that, then their job is more like a freelance car salesman. PauTan TaiC.Yee Autob*zz B*bbyAng automachy yskhang msiamotoring ...the list is long Here is one that dare to tell you or at least hint you: The Piston Show But refer my question above. They are all fallible. Consider ALL of them actors in a TV show just saying things according to script. They do not reveal the script writers so assume the script comes from people who will benefit from them IE vendors. For the case of Honda malaysia cars, remember that the CBU Speccing is actually different from US / International (Which you can sometimes trust their reviews because some of them plain condemn a car for 30 minutes straight). Most obvious is the sound proofing. Next is airbag design. If any International spec car is as loud as the local Civic it will be outright called out. And the second part which is dangerous to your life is Honda Malaysia rejection of warranty and safety related defects - Steering rack. Worldwide recall upside down, Malaysia one will say no issue. Reject your claims and ask you to risk your life on the road. Good 6 months after the issue blow up they will silently say there is an "update", and then 3 months later only then the RTD will repeat the same thing for good measure. same feedback for cars, years ago they praise Preve CVT lazy tuning as European feedback lol. Like u need to press 60% of the pedal to make it move, until many complaints they do sort of TCU software update. |
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Feb 24 2025, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 24 2025, 09:21 AM) Autobuzz or Eugene reviews cars for a living and I see that he / they have nothing bad to say about bad cars. Biasa, it is Malaysia reviewer culture so not just in automobile industry, it is worst in F&B where roadkill can praise until like 3 stars michelin standard... the problem is they not dare to speak up the bad things about the product/service as the future sponsorship will try to avoid them thus there goes their 3 mealsThe real question should be who reviews their reviews for a living? Here is a non exhaustive list of people I don't trust: People who review cars just to make content and clicks. And then they have no other apparent job other than that, then their job is more like a freelance car salesman. PauTan TaiC.Yee Autob*zz B*bbyAng automachy yskhang msiamotoring ...the list is long Here is one that dare to tell you or at least hint you: The Piston Show But refer my question above. They are all fallible. Consider ALL of them actors in a TV show just saying things according to script. They do not reveal the script writers so assume the script comes from people who will benefit from them IE vendors. For the case of Honda malaysia cars, remember that the CBU Speccing is actually different from US / International (Which you can sometimes trust their reviews because some of them plain condemn a car for 30 minutes straight). Most obvious is the sound proofing. Next is airbag design. If any International spec car is as loud as the local Civic it will be outright called out. And the second part which is dangerous to your life is Honda Malaysia rejection of warranty and safety related defects - Steering rack. Worldwide recall upside down, Malaysia one will say no issue. Reject your claims and ask you to risk your life on the road. Good 6 months after the issue blow up they will silently say there is an "update", and then 3 months later only then the RTD will repeat the same thing for good measure. |
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Feb 24 2025, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(powerdave @ Feb 24 2025, 09:59 AM) Biasa, it is Malaysia reviewer culture so not just in automobile industry, it is worst in F&B where roadkill can praise until like 3 stars michelin standard... the problem is they not dare to speak up the bad things about the product/service as the future sponsorship will try to avoid them thus there goes their 3 meals Well if you are talking about food then at least we can argue until cows come home because taste and value and price is really subjective.And not to forget who reviews the Michelin guide? I have tried many 1 star, bib gourmand (havent reach 2-3 stars) and found many to be wholly flat and baloney. It is more of a guide to avoid if possible for me. But you are making the correct assumptions, that these reviewers are nothing more than paid actors reading a script. I find their entertainment value reducing a lot. |
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Feb 24 2025, 10:14 AM
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At least JR song reviewed on civic steering racks issues,also subtlely condemn H in FL like no FL at all,seats design sucks at rear etc
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 24 2025, 09:21 AM) Autobuzz or Eugene reviews cars for a living and I see that he / they have nothing bad to say about bad cars. It's their rice bowl. If they give negative review (even if it's true), potentially they might not get new car to review from the manufacturer anymore. Why risk it? So you'll get these gloated reviews that everything is superb from all car manufacturer. Even MG can be gloated like a Porsche. That's why I like fb/forum more cause we're the real owners that provide long term review.The real question should be who reviews their reviews for a living? Here is a non exhaustive list of people I don't trust: People who review cars just to make content and clicks. And then they have no other apparent job other than that, then their job is more like a freelance car salesman. PauTan TaiC.Yee Autob*zz B*bbyAng automachy yskhang msiamotoring ...the list is long Here is one that dare to tell you or at least hint you: The Piston Show But refer my question above. They are all fallible. Consider ALL of them actors in a TV show just saying things according to script. They do not reveal the script writers so assume the script comes from people who will benefit from them IE vendors. For the case of Honda malaysia cars, remember that the CBU Speccing is actually different from US / International (Which you can sometimes trust their reviews because some of them plain condemn a car for 30 minutes straight). Most obvious is the sound proofing. Next is airbag design. If any International spec car is as loud as the local Civic it will be outright called out. And the second part which is dangerous to your life is Honda Malaysia rejection of warranty and safety related defects - Steering rack. Worldwide recall upside down, Malaysia one will say no issue. Reject your claims and ask you to risk your life on the road. Good 6 months after the issue blow up they will silently say there is an "update", and then 3 months later only then the RTD will repeat the same thing for good measure. I am adding one more car review channel that dare to give honest opinion. Autophiles Malaysia by Subhash and Bo. Very raw kind of review, but honest as fk. Bo's channel on tiktok (@bobo.borak.moto) is good as well. Not your typical put the car manufactures on the pedestal. |
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Feb 24 2025, 11:47 AM) It's their rice bowl. If they give negative review (even if it's true), potentially they might not get new car to review from the manufacturer anymore. Why risk it? So you'll get these gloated reviews that everything is superb from all car manufacturer. Even MG can be gloated like a Porsche. That's why I like fb/forum more cause we're the real owners that provide long term review. In countries that protect the consumers, misrepresantation, inaccuracy, conflict of interests are all prosecutable under various laws. I am adding one more car review channel that dare to give honest opinion. Autophiles Malaysia by Subhash and Bo. Very raw kind of review, but honest as fk. Bo's channel on tiktok (@bobo.borak.moto) is good as well. Not your typical put the car manufactures on the pedestal. Coincidentally these are the same countries that have high per capita income, higher education per capita, higher life expectancy, higher degree of general happiness, better quality of life. You wonder is this a correlation or another random coincident? Without being too philosophical and out of topic of cars, I will say generally consumers in Malaysia have to take care of themselves and start being wiser. H malaysia has shown a history of being positively spoken of by mass media but having issues with their products and then being very late in response. Vote with your wallet, vote the government that cares for consumers (Where is the lemon law? PH? PN? BN? PMX? Hello?!?!?!) tifosi liked this post
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Feb 24 2025, 06:02 PM
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hi all. i am thinking to buy a civic fe 2025 e spec this month with a 13k rebate from honda. i am aware of the infamous steering rack issue, with a little information about this 2025 facelift model, is it a good deal or i should wait for another 6 months to see if things get better for this steering rack issue? thanks
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QUOTE(iOrange @ Feb 24 2025, 06:02 PM) hi all. i am thinking to buy a civic fe 2025 e spec this month with a 13k rebate from honda. i am aware of the infamous steering rack issue, with a little information about this 2025 facelift model, is it a good deal or i should wait for another 6 months to see if things get better for this steering rack issue? thanks doubt the steering rack issue will be revised with the facelift since the internal parts are all the same skuyou'll probably just receive the upgraded grease and springs within the steering rack from the factory as apposed to the rest of us who have to bring to the sc |
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Feb 24 2025, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 24 2025, 09:21 AM) Autobuzz or Eugene reviews cars for a living and I see that he / they have nothing bad to say about bad cars. I think DSF is one of the unbiased one as well if not mistaken.... so much so that he got banned by certain brands for press reviews. I might be wrong, just kind of remembered I read this somewhere The real question should be who reviews their reviews for a living? Here is a non exhaustive list of people I don't trust: People who review cars just to make content and clicks. And then they have no other apparent job other than that, then their job is more like a freelance car salesman. PauTan TaiC.Yee Autob*zz B*bbyAng automachy yskhang msiamotoring ...the list is long Here is one that dare to tell you or at least hint you: The Piston Show But refer my question above. They are all fallible. Consider ALL of them actors in a TV show just saying things according to script. They do not reveal the script writers so assume the script comes from people who will benefit from them IE vendors. For the case of Honda malaysia cars, remember that the CBU Speccing is actually different from US / International (Which you can sometimes trust their reviews because some of them plain condemn a car for 30 minutes straight). Most obvious is the sound proofing. Next is airbag design. If any International spec car is as loud as the local Civic it will be outright called out. And the second part which is dangerous to your life is Honda Malaysia rejection of warranty and safety related defects - Steering rack. Worldwide recall upside down, Malaysia one will say no issue. Reject your claims and ask you to risk your life on the road. Good 6 months after the issue blow up they will silently say there is an "update", and then 3 months later only then the RTD will repeat the same thing for good measure. I take all reviewers in the list above as mostly entertainment. However the B*bby guy is literally the worst of the lot... not even hiding the fact that his company (A*rizn) is more about advertising rather than cars This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Feb 24 2025, 06:37 PM ktek liked this post
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QUOTE(iOrange @ Feb 24 2025, 06:02 PM) hi all. i am thinking to buy a civic fe 2025 e spec this month with a 13k rebate from honda. i am aware of the infamous steering rack issue, with a little information about this 2025 facelift model, is it a good deal or i should wait for another 6 months to see if things get better for this steering rack issue? thanks Wait la, 6 months sounds like the minimum I would put towards this issue. Right now I wouldn't even mind to buy this facelift model towards near the end of life 1+ years from today.if you really cannot wait then just buy something else. |
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Actually I quite like Tai Choo Yee review. Ya, at times, he also get commercialized but when he is not satisfied with something, he also hinted, he won't get to into it, but once you get the hint it, you sort of get. Piston Show also quite honest, also no so direct shoot lar, all hinting hinting.
Nobody is perfect tho, they rely on these reviews to cari makan, so hinting about certain imperfection is good enuf for me to do some search if I want to.. This post has been edited by Cavino: Feb 25 2025, 01:29 PM |
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Feb 24 2025, 06:35 PM) I think DSF is one of the unbiased one as well if not mistaken.... so much so that he got banned by certain brands for press reviews. I might be wrong, just kind of remembered I read this somewhere he dont mind. as ppl who know car will not watch ang vid.I take all reviewers in the list above as mostly entertainment. However the B*bby guy is literally the worst of the lot... not even hiding the fact that his company (A*rizn) is more about advertising rather than cars plain entertain style is expected QUOTE(Cavino @ Feb 25 2025, 08:26 AM) Actually I quite like Tai Choo Yee review. Ya, at times, he also get commercialized but when he is not satisfied with something, he also hinted, he won't get to into it, but once you get the hint it, you sort of get. Piston Show also quite honest, also no so direct shoot lar, all hinting hinting. sad truth. driving skill also need to improve than laymans basicNobody is perfect tho, they rely on these reviews to cari makan, so hinting about certain imperfection is good enuf for me to do some search if I want to.. |
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QUOTE(iOrange @ Feb 24 2025, 06:02 PM) hi all. i am thinking to buy a civic fe 2025 e spec this month with a 13k rebate from honda. i am aware of the infamous steering rack issue, with a little information about this 2025 facelift model, is it a good deal or i should wait for another 6 months to see if things get better for this steering rack issue? thanks Saw on socmed Xhs, got 1 user clocked 2,800km already have steering issue and yes it is 2025 FL civic |
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QUOTE(powerdave @ Feb 26 2025, 09:51 AM) Saw on socmed Xhs, got 1 user clocked 2,800km already have steering issue and yes it is 2025 FL civic from FB, at FE car group, got few complaints even after the latest recall (cheap recall, just taking excess grease and put it to worm gear area), the sticky feeling of steering is returning. |
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Feb 26 2025, 11:10 AM
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saw huge discounts on the civic FL , even up to 15k..
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Feb 26 2025, 11:10 AM) Honda brought it to themselves. Discount wouldn't need to be given if the issue was resolved. Imagine 15k revenue lesser for each car. How much opportunity cost lostThat also bring to the point the margin they have, they have been milking their customers for years just by selling the H name. This post has been edited by tifosi: Feb 26 2025, 12:05 PM |
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