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post Jan 13 2022, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Jan 13 2022, 01:40 PM)
Why are the RS seats are combi leather and not full leather like the V? Cost cutting measure ka?
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" Alcantara " looks more premium and sportier biggrin.gif
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post Jan 15 2022, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(PoisonSoul @ Jan 15 2022, 03:42 PM)
So I went to a showroom today, damn the SA is super excited about it and keep telling me that the new one is far better than the ketam since he already drove it (ya, without lotax n insurance LOL).
I've tested everything. From seat to sturdiness to everything lah. Here's my findings on the Civic (RS model) in no particular order:
1) Back tyre housing/damper is cloth type. O.O It will get dirty easily right?
2) TBH, when medias keep blow water say "you must come and see for yourself and only you'll know the beauty of it.". NGL, it's real. Seeing it IRL, it's really just, wow! If I were to compare to the direct competitor of M brand, the frontal is almost similar.
3) 2 radiator fans to cool down the 180hp 240Nm engine.
4) Real 2 rear diffusers
5) Head unit (infotaintment) is smooth and huge. UI and UX is pretty intuative. As for Wireless CarPlay (sorry, I no Android device), I found that it's laggy. I was playing song + open waze and my song was struggling abit to play. Waze was also. But all is fine after 1-2s. I'm not sure if it's initial boot or it's my old 8+ device lah.
6) Rear trunk is hydraulic. No helping you to close ya. But the closing of the boot is really, nice.
7) Front hood is HEAVY AF = quality?
8) To change wiper, they follow similar to brand M's same level competitor way. How to trigger it idk but the wiper is half under/below the hood.
9) Speakers, ok lah. Can't really test because too much plastic all over the speaker. Mass general public won't care about the quality la. I bet if HM slapped Bose emblem on it also ppl will believe it's real Bose lol. (I'm not audiophile)
10) I'm > 165cm, < 170cm, front seat put to the optimal driving position, back seat has HUMUNGOUS OF SPACE.
11) Rear AC vents are placed just nice. IDK if it's just me but the location of it looks good.
12) Alot of soft touch area that used to be hard plastic. Well done HM. But lmao, the rear seat's seatbelt there, that's plastic. Imagine sit and kena pushed to the side and then suddenly, hard plastic lol.
13) Usual contact area of the door is soft touch but others is hard plastic.

Ok, I can't rmb liao. That's my 13 cents on FE.  biggrin.gif
Booked RS but still deciding.  flex.gif

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Im back to rant again.... wouldn've been the perfect C segment ride if it comes with the 10" digital cluster tongue.gif
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post Jan 19 2022, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 19 2022, 06:37 AM)
to me, and most (more hardcore) enthusiasts,  the less choices you get sad.gif

electronics replacing actual mechanical connections
x by wire, brake by wire
fake vents fake engine noises
age of electrification and eventual decline/death of internal combustion engines.
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Well its the same to me.... the longer u wait also the more chances for these old cars to pop up in second hand market. Though with the recent floodings not sure if anyone would consider that...

I'm more of a tech guy so these things dont really bother me but I can see why petrol heads will be sad
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post Feb 15 2022, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 14 2022, 04:08 PM)
Drive - I personally feel, but I may long suffered memory lost that the acceleration is one small step less than the FC TCP.
I drove all the way up to 100km/h on town roads, I don't feel any problem but I think Altis is slightly better in the corners. Could be I was paying wayy too much attention to the Honda sense functions.
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You are not wrong. The new Altis is no joke around corners. It outhandles every C segment sedan. TNGA and the double wishbone setup does wonders

Just a shame when it comes to powertrain and interior design. Hope in the facelift UMW do something about the powertrain at least

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Feb 15 2022, 10:08 PM)
Bro u don't joke pls
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Off topic here but if dont believe me just try whack it around corners if u have the chance

Almost every car review also have this conclusion . You may not like the interior or the power but the handling is something u cannot deny on the latest Corolla

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Feb 15 2022, 10:24 PM)
Well i have tested this car up genting and short rounding of empire shopping mall big you to federal highway.
On corners, if you want to buang the car on corners, altis will fail. It only allows you to corner comfortably (50 to 60kph tops) bec the engine does its TNGA platform a disservice.

If you want to buang a c segment on corner, even civic does a better job (likely also thanks to PS4) but body roll for passenger is another topic.

The best c segment to buang corner will be mazda 3. Esp the hatchback. Bodyroll is very minimal, the 2.0L gives the oomph esp with paddle shifter and you can lap 90kph on these places without breaking a sweat if you are experienced enough.

Of course if u say comfort corner, i think altis will take it but hey make no mistake even a car half the altis price can corner like altis does with anti roll bar installed
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Very weird conclusion since I did the same thing with Corolla up genting and the handling is the sharpest. Also tried Mazda 3 hatchback, saving grace was the GVC Plus otherwise the handling was just ok. Yet to try latest Civic. Also not sure what you meant when u say the engine is giving TNGA a disservice.... how does engine performance relates to handling? Even if the engine is underpowered u still can push it to the desired speed and it will take the corner if the chasis and suspension setup is capable

But granted Corolla stock tires are not meant for performance anyway

Lets agree to disagree then


Sorry to Civic owners for the off topic

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post Feb 21 2022, 01:53 PM

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i noticed there's still yet to be any media reviews for the new Civic... the Sepang one doesn't count as that's more like a preview drive and its on the track

even Camry facelift already have reviews before the car is officially launched

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 21 2022, 02:11 PM)
civic, brand new car, 2022. Camry, old car supposed last time get new dynamic force engine. only our UMW make it as a brand new 2022 Camry when Thai already had this engine for a few years ago.
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well they did gave a reason for that... something to do with the supply chain for the engine


again off topic - but if i were in the market and have the budget for a D segment, the Camry would be the one I will go for. just an impressive package for the price


then again.... I dont really favour driving big cars especially in KL and Sel where sometimes the road and parking spots can be a bit tight, maybe its just my driving skills. C segment (or premium D like 3 series / C class) would be the max I would go for
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 21 2022, 05:08 PM)
now D-segment heading close to the 200k price range. I say many will rather convert to Conti car then. Those include the current-gen Accord. On my Accord G9 whatapps group owner, many just upgrade to Conti, 3-series, C-class when looking at G10 Accord price, spec, and the interior.
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its all the work of inflation and depreciation of our MYR in recent years especially

dont know if you guys noticed but prices of cars have increased signifcantly accross the board, and this is with the current sales tax exemption factored in so in reality the prices are 5 - 10% more accross the board

the Civic and City is a clear example of that



3 series and C class will be in the 300k+ bracket soon. btw new C class is launching 25th Feb I heard



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QUOTE(winter01942 @ Feb 21 2022, 04:40 PM)
Sometimes I don't know whether to trust overseas reviews, not sure if Malaysian CKD can be held to the same standards
The 10th gen Accord seems to have good reviews over there, but I tested one locally, and both me and my passengers were really disappointed

Sometimes I'm not sure if the SA no sound no gas, or they just really have too good sales they malas to layan each individual customer
I asked mine to inform me once got test drive car, never reach out to me even though the showroom already got test drive car for some time (I know since I sometimes pass by the showroom on my usual trips), only will remind to apply loan to get car early
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definitely not. It's already raised a few times especially for Honda CKD, the parts are mostly locally sourced to keep the cost down and that itself is already huge factor when it comes to quality


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post Feb 21 2022, 06:03 PM

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Btw back to Civic topic.... anyone know if top spec RS comes with extra sound deadening? Or heard any claims from SA?

For the City case, Honda specifially mention in their market and press material that RS spec have extra sound deadening

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QUOTE(thesnake @ Feb 21 2022, 08:42 PM)
E or V spec guys? im just a normal road user however would like to get most bang for the buck car. thanks all!
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If u can afford V definitely the V. Its the best bang for buck amongst the 3 specs. And that few K difference doesnt add much to your monthly loan repayment also
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Wondering when after market Si grille will start to come. Definitely looks much better and change the whole front of the sedan

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post Feb 24 2022, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(chnwng @ Feb 24 2022, 04:58 PM)
Hi. A little confused on the right tyre pressure for 18" . Indicator anear door panel shows 220kpa but some said 240-260 kpa should be the correct pressure. Any advise?
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I think what they're trying to say is the door panel indicator is showing cold pressure, meaning the pressure u should pump or tyre should have when the tyre is cold or haven't started running yet


If after a long journey especially on hot days and you decide to pump, you should inflate a few more kpa. Around 20 - 30 is enough
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 24 2022, 06:15 PM)
what I was saying is I will literally override engineers:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=103468198
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Agreed also. For my car currently I just use the recommended pressure as a rough guide. Usually i go over instead of under though
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Mar 1 2022, 08:22 AM)
I want to add a bit on the E spec that is not obvious :
The 7” display instrument panel does NOT display
1. Phone info
2. Song or media player info
3. Navigation turn by turn

While V and above can do this. This could be due to the limitation from the head unit itself, but I think it is mainly deliberate tiering from Honda Malaysia. To punish us for paying less / reward you for paying more. If it’s important to you then take note and take action.

Basically my E spec can only do the miles / odo / trip meter and show the driver attention level if I want it to. Others cannot show…a very basic driving only system. I’ll get used it of course, but I am more and more tempted to change the head unit when something comes up in the aftermarket.
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sooner or later someone should be able to code those function in since the hardware is the same. the only difference being the software

already saw plenty of coding service in fb for Civic FC that can customise the digital speedo


still in the end, I make my stand that HM should've spec'ed at least the RS model with the full 10" cluster

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post Mar 2 2022, 06:43 PM

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Just went and test drove the Civic RS at Honda Glenmerie this afternoon. My thoughts are pretty much summed up by everyone else here already -

i) Interior built quality and feel is definitely a step up from FC
ii) Exterior is really a hate it or love it affair. But it certainly won't wow anyone unlike how FC first hit the road. Personally I like it
iii) Still cant get over the half baked cluster

The SA told me waiting list for RS is 3 months now. Many are buying now in anticipation of gov not extending the SST exemption coming June. She also told me sales for this gen Civic not as good as when FC was first released but then I can't verify this lah. Probably due to the design or people waiting for HRV i guess


On a side note before I head over to Honda showroom I also went over to VW showroom nearby wanting to test drive the new Golf R line, but too bad they dont have test drive unit yet. The SA was kind enough to let me have a look and feel of the GTI at the backyard though, just arrived fresh from factory today. I have to say the interior build quality is not far off from Civic, though it certainly looks more futuristic and high tech. A bit ironic since it lacks a lot of the tech stuff eg: AEB, ACC that the Civic have

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 2 2022, 06:53 PM)
I would say BS because Civic FC never had this stupid waiting period.

But I could be wrong because:
1) FE Civic is a globalized platform that's heavily impacted by global supply chain and logistics
2) one story SA tend to use is the recent floods causing stockpiled parts impact
3) people rushing to purchase cuz of Tax relief (SST)

4) many people saved bullet during pandemic, including our family, we already originally planned to buy FC during 2020 but pulled out due to many reasons, pandemic uncertainties being one of them.
5) many people on the fence (including us) because of Honda first mainstream turbo charged engine and there's in fact overheating issues to some owners which is probably acknowledged and mitigated/completely resolved in FE as you can tell from the wide gaping front grills and opening, the ENTIRE intercooler is even fully exposed very visible in the front btw.

So with that I believe the FE will be getting better sales over time. (Or I could be wrong cuz many people don't like Honda Civic 's "tock models" lol)
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This is the 2 reason she mention to me which causes the waiting period

But cannot deny its a SUV/Crossover dominant market currently. The FC had its success largely due to its design and price at that time. Time will tell for the FE.... its now more expensive and with a more subtle design that cater for a different crowd. Many people wont even notice the improvements underneath if they don't bother to visit the showroom for a drive in the first place, so exterior design is really important as a first impression
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Mar 2 2022, 08:25 PM)
A hatchback C segment makes a damn lot of sense. I don’t understand why we don’t have it. In fact I will buy the hatch Civic if I were in the US. I think Japan also only has hatch version right?

But SUV ingress and egress especially compared to sports car FE, is day and night. My knees actually tell me something everyday 4x….something like taking a few steps too much on the staircase.
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Too bad the only C segment hatchback available for us is the Mazda 3, Golf and upcoming Peugeot 308. All cars which are not for the 'typical' Malaysian buyer. We once have the Ford Focus and Renault Megane i think but both was discontinued due to poor sales

Malaysian tend to prefer 'big cars' especially when spending over 100k and a hatchback always gives the illusion of a small car

An even better option for me is a wagon/estate instead of SUV/crossover. But you know how Malaysian tend to view these vehicles biggrin.gif

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Another minor nitpick rant from me.... came accross some pictures of City RS and I just realised it have a better looking footrest than Civic RS biggrin.gif doh.gif

City RS
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Can be easily solved aftermarket though

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