Thanks! I rechecked, you are not wrong there bro. I also just told mentioned if its the same as Prius (Atkinson 1.8) it will be sluggish.

1. Is definitely not the 2L Toyota hybrid Force from Corolla.
2. The bloody salesman (again) from toyota told me it is 170PS and 350Nm. Looks like completely UNTRUE, it is nearer to 122PS/140Nm...I asked the fella is this the same system performance as a Prius and he told me no...anyway kena tipu again.
Oh well it is more of less off my list for now. Whats the point in buying an expensive engine that is lower in performance, only to end up spending all that petrol savings into a new battery in 8-10 years.....Nett is more money out of pocket, who counts that carbon?
3. I don't even want to test drive a 122hp / 140Nm version of the thing I already tested at 139hp/170Nm....

The one thing that is not so accurate is that all hybrid batteries run out of charge if you don't decelerate, there is not much change in that regard. I think it is generally counted in minutes of capacity. Not hours.

Its still worth test driving though because sometimes its not just every on paper

Theoretically the hybrid should still give better off the line performance because of the electric motor giving assistance rather than just the sole 1.8 engine

I suppose that's reasonable advice. But I believe I will only test drive AFTER Civic is announced (knowing more information).

I'm wondering if all the customers test drive 5min, randomly depending on luck the damn battery may be in zero charge also....lol...and there is no plug in....Is it they have to keep the engine running all the time to ensure the battery is charged?

Posted on facebook, credit goes to Mohd Shazuan.
Could this be Malaysia's new Civic line up?

Seems like the 10inch cluster meter isn’t happening to all variant but we got rear aircond instead 😏🤔

Posted on facebook, credit goes to Mohd Shazuan.
Could this be Malaysia's new Civic line up?

Can you guys educate me what is really the benefit of say a 10.2in display inside the dashboard vs a 4in display? Although I know you can see more things but a driver trully really needs just RPM, speed, gear right?

Does the display actually show the navigation turn by turn inside there?

What is inside the current TC-P?

Can you guys educate me what is really the benefit of say a 10.2in display inside the dashboard vs a 4in display? Although I know you can see more things but a driver trully really needs just RPM, speed, gear right?

Does the display actually show the navigation turn by turn inside there?

What is inside the current TC-P?

I think people are demanding for better/newer stuffs whenever there's a new product launch. It's more like 'we want' than 'we need'. To me, stuffs like rear ac, 9" infotainment screen, other safety features are much better to have. 
It's definitely a nice to have feature as we will be paying the same amount of money but it shouldn't be a HUGE thing to stop anyone getting this car at the end of the day .

10.2 inch can change meter design
and when u brake, the car in the meter will light up brake light, signal too, and the door animation 
current tcp is a 7 inch display with rpm n speed included
this new one , the 7 inch display only display info n rpm , speedo is mechanical

Haihz! At least RS spec give la 10.2 inch. Fainted

Pre-pre-announcement?

I would say spec and kit - Everything has a price. You can't satisfy everyone and potentially many will be disappointed that either its too expensive (too much kit) OR too cheap (not enough kit).

Perhaps RS should have it all. And price it accordingly. RM165k maybe?

At Sepang, Honda Malaysia wheeled out both an FC Civic 1.5 TC-P as well as a Corolla 1.8G for us to make a back-to-back comparison with the FE. Accelerating hard out of the gate, the first thing that struck me was just how refined the new car was compared to the outgoing model. Yes, with the CVT, the engine was still screaming at the redline, but it was quieter and had a much smoother sound compared to the previous mill, which was really rather raucous on the throttle.

Despite the extra power and torque, the FE didn’t feel noticeably more muscular than the FC. As before, the engine lacked the distinct shove in the back of a boosted European mill, instead building speed in a linear fashion – almost as if it was a much bigger naturally-aspirated engine. Both the FE and FC had the measure of the Corolla in straight-line performance, despite the latter’s larger cubic capacity.

The revised CVT made more of a difference to the way the new Civic drove. It responded marginally quicker to throttle inputs, but the biggest improvement was the simulated gear changes using the paddle shifters. Instead of excessively slurring its “shifts”, the transmission moved up and down the virtual ratios in a much snappier and more natural manner, acting like a modern automatic or even a dual-clutch transmission.

The dreaded CVT whine was still there, of course, but it was much more muted compared to the (admittedly tired) FC example, the transmission of which protested audibly at higher revs. The big speeds that we were carrying on the straights (in excess of 150 km/h) meant that assessing road and wind noise was difficult, but for what it’s worth, the FE didn’t feel any noisier than the FC, which was already one of the more refined cars in its class – if you excluded the engine and CVT, of course.

165k is too much probably

I'm pretty sure they are able to include the 10.2 inch cluster for the RS and keep the price below 150k

But oh well I'm not working for Honda so there must be a reason they exclude it. Maybe due to the chip shortages as well. It will probably appear for later batches or the facelift in this case