If I have a beautiful young model wife, I definitely post lots of picture she close contact with me. If normal wife like everyone else have , I won't post anything about it.

I'm not sure how it worked but do installer have to remove roof, pillar cover, etc to pull cable to charging port and rear camera...risk of rattling sound appearing..

My friend did not install dashcam for that reason...minimize rattling risk.

It just crossed my mind,

1. Do we need to install tint first, let it cure for at least 1 to 3 weeks before installing dashcam? If like that, if I choose to install Honda's dashcam and tint outside, cannot ler, tint will have to cut a hole around it.

2. That means if I choose to tint outside, I cannot install Honda's dashcam. Might forgo dashcam for now if that is the case

3. Now calc budget, might tint back VKool Elite/55/30 outside if budget permit. I think that is still the best clear tint with real life highest heat reduction that don't drop performance even after 10 years (if no workmanship issue). Only issue is any IR housing card have to roll down windows to use. Might even think of installing at HQ coz want to get warranty card. Just realised my car tinted at dealer has those temporary warranty slip but never get warranty card. Warranty car are needed when need to claim windscreen insurance with tint cost for maximum amount. Still have not ask price yet....if hit 4K, forget about it.

4. Also looking at Raytech (got 1 raytech shop near my place). Not familiar with the brand but seems to be good??? See how much for Ultra70/RC55/RC30 first? If not using Ecotint, I likely forgo security tint, go total solar. I also think those having windows up down scratch sound might also be due to thickness of security tint.

5. I always goes Elite for all windscreen (70%). Have not tried darker tint. Will Vkool 30 (abt 36 VLT) or Raytech RC35 (abt 38VLT) for the rear windscreen still be clear at night?

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jun 27 2023, 10:44 AM

Cialat price goes up again by RM1200. Weak currency affect felt. Like that all the accs and addon like tints will slowly goes up in price the longer we wait.. But we have no choice but to wait.

Although I'm waiting to see if can choose between CIVIC or CRV but I heard it likely come out on Oct or Nov. I think the much bigger size will really increase price drastically from 168k to over 180k to 200k for 2WD full spec pricing it out from my reach especially with our much weaken currency.

Sure u wont solve outside noise only to create internal rattling, creaking noise somewhere when u tear up the car bottom?

The moment u plug in their fuse which u have to use to have dashcam parking mode, they can use that as a mean to void the fuse and electrical wiring warranty.

Due to that, if I go for dashcam, I'm likely to pay for the Honda dashcam as well for the parking mode. But since I'm planned to tint VKool outside, likely wait a month b4 installing cam.. Maybe back to Honda. I do like Honda cam having the wire cover stick for front cam.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 8 2023, 11:31 PM

Mazda 3 is a better ride but the rear legroom is a deal breaker no matter how I look at it. Unless u want a 2 person ride.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 8 2023, 11:30 PM

There is a reason why ketam brings back Civic from oblivion after 2 lackluster models

Oops.. I remember.... I'm old. The one I don't like it's the 7th and 9th gen. And I can't even remember why I think 7th gen is lackluster..

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 9 2023, 12:35 AM

That's the one. The model nobody buy. 7th gen. Luckily FD came out when I need another car.

Oh, btw. Anyone using ehev model?

1. Pickup really significantly stronger than RS or not?
2. The motor noisy or not? Hrv really quite noticeable, I heard, what abt Civic?
3. Highway drive engine how? Pushing, noisy or running power smooth just like non hybrid.

I'm considering this of still cannot get car after crv not out or price not ngam... But looking at the currency and looming us debt and local market condition, my wife ask me to reconsider coming fl City...at least more reasonable than the earlier suggested Axia.

Haiz, heng heng booked Civic liao, upgrade ok, now ask to downgrade to City.... Used to think City ok one for our new car... But now after sit in Civic... Suddenly feels the mature nice rear looking city suddenly feel so.... small, like Civic cut in half size (not true, just trying to imagine the feeling)..but City more than 50k cheaper, that's 1.5 cars vs Civic. If buy crv, can buy almost 2 whole new City..

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 9 2023, 09:52 PM

I tot so too.. If the curse is on... We buying the failed one. Maybe the mature look, many potential younger buyer no like. The older ones goes to suv.

But this is also one of the Civic models where there are so many more positive reviews than negative. Even neutral ones tends to lean towards positive. Except for hard seat and tyre noise, no other complaint. Of course, Malaysia's built quality not mentioned in the review. If not.....

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 9 2023, 11:12 PM

That means that besides the trendy hybrid thingy to save environment, save petrol (the much higher price negate that totally), the main pro of ehev is actually the significantly stronger pickup and acceleration. The engine has no lags running at high speed highway run.


Although it comes at the cost of 16k extra with some savings on FC especially for me who drive over 100km a day, it might also be worth considering. I keep assuming 16K not worth it for FC savings coz thats 16K...how long to save before it can recover the 16k differences. Now that the daily drive with significantly stronger pickup, eHev can seriously be considered. Now only need consider how much to pay 10 years later to change battery and inverter..

Forget about top speed, I doubt I'll ever go above 150km, usually stays within 130 to 140 max if goes high speed. Torque aka pickup especially at lower speed is much more important for daily drive.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 10 2023, 03:40 PM

Only die hard like you still driving manual. My last manual is Wira before I change to Persona 12 years ago. My leg cannot tahan liao. Can get cramp wan.

As you have mentioned, hybrid FC is fully negated by the high price and not to mentioned if use for long term, have to consider another financial bomb when changing battery and its related parts. For EV, everyone forget. need to charge one, that electricity cost not calculated yet, not to mention, if forgot to charge or suddenly need to take longer drive but not enuf charge how, take grab kah..

My initial impression of Hybrid is always not worth the extra high price but now looking from another perspective , like what Madgeiser say he bought it for the noticeable torque and no lags in acceleration that suddenly pique my interest.

For everyday drive especially with hybrid city / highway (Klang to KL every day, yeh I took both the Sg Besi roads and Jalan Duta ones), the more than 70nm difference is quite tempting (at least on paper but now owners have confirmed it is noticeable stronger in torque). I love the 10"TFT and addon of dual mode air conds with extra savings on FC, that makes the whole 15K extra not that extravagant anymore. There is some value to eHev 15K extra cost now. Can be under my consideration if even after CRV out and price not ngam, still Civic no stocks, can consider switching to this model if cannot wait, think can get car faster then. Just thinking thinking now coz nothing to do but wait. Of course have to consider that hybrid for me, no resale value wan especially when long term, have to tambah duit maintain the outdated battery tech 10 years down the road somemore.

Wait wait, calculate, change car model...I might in the end falling back to initial affordable choice, City (since lemmy say City seat even harder than Civic...haha use that as an excuse to banish the much cheaper financially tempting City from my list of Reconsideration).

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 11 2023, 03:03 PM

There are video feeds by an owner Joseph in Facebook FE Club. Link as below

These are great real life front and rear videos from his ori Honda dashcam. Really allow us to see the quality of the cam.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/32087842859...12686312749217/

Its not as bad as I tot lar. Still ok except moving car cannot see plate number

Overall still ok lar (albeit at high price) but advantage is direct to fuse, parking mode can use, no void warranty, no need external power (with external cable to plugs or USB port) and the front cam got cover to hide cable.

I used vios for 4 years, never once look at the cam until I forgot it is there. So only use for emergency usage like ppl bang me, no admit, cut cue bang no admit, etc. So far never encounter that yet and hopefully never ever need to.

After a month of on road observation from Klang KL Kesas and NKVE and driving to KLCC area, I rarely see any Civic. Only can see once in a while like spotting rare animal only.

So far only spotted the same Silver E spec few times in my parking lots, on road white RS couple of times, black RS couple of times...thats it..I can see so many more CRV and new City but no Civic RE albeit CRV current gen is already over 5 years old.

Will ultra long que for RS even after 1.5 years, feel like Honda abandoning Civic production for City, HRV and coming WRV.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 13 2023, 08:36 AM

See, I'm not the only rarely seeing Civic FE. Its a bit like a rare breed, thats why I tot if Honda is putting priority to other models like best selling HRV, etc. Travelled everyday from Klang to KL via Kesas and NKVE to KLCC area. Once in a blue moon only see one in Klang (weekend). Really hard to spot one on the road. When see one is like hitting lottery consolation prize..

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 14 2023, 03:33 PM

As if those who can afford Civic can top up 50k..Itu d segment price liao.
Only richer ppl can afford, most of us up to limit with Civic pricing liao.

Even in oversea with many tesla, Civic or hybrid still sells. Ev still have a long way to go before it become common. Even in oversea, charging station infrastructure availability are still limited. This limit the ev range is the deal breaker for many potential buyers.

And the inconvenience of waiting time to recharge, have to book time slot for fast charging station. All trips have planed, arrange for recharge at charge station, wait for half an hour to hours depending on charging station. For hybrid, just takes 10 minutes, full tank. Most potential tesla buyers likely have another hybrid or petrol car at home just in case. Most forgot unlike hybrid, we still have to pay for electricity at charging station or home.

Yalor.. Actually from my observation, those getting accord usually can afford higher if they want to..these buyers are a different segment of ppl from Civic buyers.

Accord is just the bottom range sedan they are looking. However Civic buyers are usually a younger crowd who extend their loan to get the car. Their upper limit. The older ones like us just love the car, the richer won't buy it, coz got better higher range ride that can do better. The poorer ones like me not willing or unable to extend the loan coz need keep extra money for family future or Vietnam girls to pass time.

Don't apply to all, just my 2 cents in general. Of course they are rich odd ones that still go for civic..modders or odd ppl. Haha... not including type R of course, that is definitely for rich enthusiastic buyers only.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 15 2023, 01:45 PM

Its a design issue rather than qc issue. Some US owners have started a class action suit for this matter.

These few days, i started on eHev...and was very impressed. It seems it trumped RS in almost all aspect, pickup, handling, nvh, stability except for the RS sportier looks and pricing.

I began to understand that the 15K extra is not really extravagant. Its actually quite worth it if you look from performance aspect. It can even use its 315nm torque at high speed engine mode (against my expected engine mode 189 torque)...

Then called my SA...check eHev delivery schedule. He told me Honda seems to temporarily stop production on Civic eHev. Maybe low demand, make way for other models...

Haiz, heng heng read up all eHev review all say better than RS...then cold water splash...takda stock, waiting indefinitely...Say some unlucky buyers booked at launch also no get cars yet...

So my eHev dream broke up....back to poor RS waiting line and incoming CRV (see see can afford) waiting list.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 17 2023, 06:03 PM

Yes, that is the idea I got from reading the iMMD specs, an EV with combustion engine, best of both world as we all know EV main weakness is its charging time and fast charging station availability. eHev has full EV torque at all times while petrol engine keeps charging the motor generator -> battery and supporting cruising mode. We can get on the hype without the worry of battery running out of juice.

What attracted me the most is the noticeable increase in performance, nvh and stability aspect, practically all reviewers says better than RS. Of course, the 10"TFT that can show brake light front light and other 8 bit retro graphical lane thingy with other cars sorts of attracted me a lot....like a kid to candy...hahaha.

I also tot of battery max charge issue but besides its regenerating braking charging, the motor generator powered by the engine also can charge the battery if I'm not wrong, that provides a constant source of charging thus the battery should kept its charge up at all time, I think?

Luckily RS still acceptable for me coz price is still ok, the exterior looks of Silver RS with black matte rim and double exhaust still looks the coolest for old style retro sporty looks. Wonder why eHev only abandon silver... really becoz it looks too old thus nobody want?

As for my SA on availability...I think so too...hehehe. Different SA or center for different quota. I do believe its production stop for WRV, then later facelift City, then lagi later CRV...

I am really not in a hurry to get car as I only need it by end of year (long way to go) BUT the interest rate aka bank negara OPR....it will be raise sooner or later again. Thus no hurry to get car, so got more options but at the same time, need to hurry to get loan to avoid interest hike again..

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 17 2023, 07:19 PM