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TSkloze0031
post Aug 23 2021, 11:46 AM, updated 5y ago

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Hi Sifus

Im looking for draftman OR freelance architects to assist on drawing house extension for MBSA permit. The one contractors suggesting is ridiculously expensive rclxub.gif

Even better if anyone can do the whole MBSA submission together.

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post Aug 23 2021, 11:53 AM

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Speaking from experience, just walk into MBSA and ask for the officer recommendation.

this is to ensure not only do you engage with a valid contractor, but your submission is also will approve in a timely manner.

An approved contractor doesn't mean it will be approved in a timely manner...
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post Aug 23 2021, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Aug 23 2021, 11:53 AM)
Speaking from experience, just walk into MBSA and ask for the officer recommendation.

this is to ensure not only do you engage with a valid contractor, but your submission is also will approve in a timely manner.

An approved contractor doesn't mean it will be approved in a timely manner...
This is the way..
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oh, that was actually my concern - to get approved fast.

I was told by few contractors, if I go myself might take at least 2 months to get approval due to current situation. By going through their recommendation, can get approval within 2 weeks (im not sure how true is this).

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post Aug 23 2021, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(kloze0031 @ Aug 23 2021, 12:12 PM)
oh, that was actually my concern - to get approved fast.

I was told by few contractors, if I go myself might take at least 2 months to get approval due to current situation. By going through their recommendation, can get approval within 2 weeks (im not sure how true is this).
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Visit the Planning Dept. They should have a list of accredited draftsman registered with them.

Some other councils staff do freelance as well but submit through one of the name in the list and is how you approach him.
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post Aug 23 2021, 12:35 PM

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TSkloze0031
post Aug 23 2021, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 23 2021, 12:26 PM)
Visit the Planning Dept. They should have a list of accredited draftsman registered with them.

Some other councils staff do freelance as well but submit through one of the name in the list and is how you approach him.
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thanks sifu.

-any idea how long is the process? will it takes weeks/months?
- and usually how much will it cost for the drawing. contractors quoting me 6k up to 11k for drawing and MBSA approval together. i find it ridiculously expensive.


sorry for too mny questions, this is my first prop and first time doing reno.
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post Aug 23 2021, 02:06 PM

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What is the scope / description of your renovation? Is it within the rules of Buku Setara MBSA? Approval is only 1 day if apply with Buku Setara MBSA.
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post Aug 23 2021, 02:11 PM

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These are the in-charge of respective area in MBSA jurisdictions. Application for renovation permit is under Jabatan Bangunan. Do call them.


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post Aug 23 2021, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Q.V.RK @ Aug 23 2021, 02:06 PM)
What is the scope / description of your renovation? Is it within the rules of Buku Setara MBSA? Approval is only 1 day if apply with Buku Setara MBSA.
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extension on 25ft extra land on double storey house. I did check the buku setara MBSA but apparently i still need to get drawing done when apply for MBSA.

may be like other sifu's suggestion, i will go to MBSA and check with them straight.
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post Aug 23 2021, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(kloze0031 @ Aug 23 2021, 02:16 PM)
extension on 25ft extra land on double storey house. I did check the buku setara MBSA but apparently i still need to get drawing done when apply for MBSA.

may be like other sifu's suggestion, i will go to MBSA and check with them straight.
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At this moment, no walk-in allowed for Jabatan Bangunan, MBSA. Temujanji is useless as well. I just dropped 3 applications at the drop box. Call them directly, they have a list of approved consultants, I used to have an image of the list but it's not in my phone now.

Anyway, for your renovation, I estimate about RM6-7K for the drawing, architect / engineer endorsement, submission and approval. So, whoever suggest you RM6K, price is fair.
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post Aug 23 2021, 02:23 PM

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SOP for Jabatan Bangunan, MBSA and temujanji


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post Aug 23 2021, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Q.V.RK @ Aug 23 2021, 02:22 PM)
At this moment, no walk-in allowed for Jabatan Bangunan, MBSA. Temujanji is useless as well. I just dropped 3 applications at the drop box. Call them directly, they have a list of approved consultants, I used to have an image of the list but it's not in my phone now.

Anyway, for your renovation, I estimate about RM6-7K for the drawing, architect / engineer endorsement, submission and approval. So, whoever suggest you RM6K, price is fair.
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thanks sifu. this is helpful.

just wondering, the est RM6k is including MBSA's fee? and the price based on sqft of renovation or is that a standard fee?
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post Aug 23 2021, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(kloze0031 @ Aug 23 2021, 12:38 PM)
thanks sifu.

-any idea how long is the process? will it takes weeks/months?
- and usually how much will it cost for the drawing. contractors quoting me 6k up to 11k for drawing and MBSA approval together. i find it ridiculously expensive.
sorry for too mny questions, this is my first prop and first time doing reno.
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10 years ago when I did a 18 x 16ft side and 22 x 5ft rear ..... grd floor ...I paid 2.5k all in under mbsj panel guy.

I cant remember how long for approval but everything went on smoothly with them.

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post Aug 23 2021, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 23 2021, 03:12 PM)
10 years ago when I did a 18 x 16ft side and 22 x 5ft rear ..... grd floor ...I paid 2.5k all in under mbsj panel guy.

I cant remember how long for approval but everything went on smoothly with them.
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woah so cheap! thanks sifu
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post Aug 23 2021, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(kloze0031 @ Aug 23 2021, 02:48 PM)
thanks sifu. this is helpful.

just wondering, the est RM6k is including MBSA's fee? and the price based on sqft of renovation or is that a standard fee?
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Included all-in. Never exceed RM7K. Talk about recent, I did 3 units in Elmina, 1 in Puncak Alam and few arounds Kemuning and Sri Muda, each extending to the limits permitted by MBSA, all are around RM5K-RM7K.
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post Aug 23 2021, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Q.V.RK @ Aug 23 2021, 05:14 PM)
Included all-in. Never exceed RM7K. Talk about recent, I did 3 units in Elmina, 1 in Puncak Alam and few arounds Kemuning and Sri Muda, each extending to the limits permitted by MBSA, all are around RM5K-RM7K.
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woah so many properties. dont mind me asking, do you provide this draftman service? or any contact recommendation?
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post Aug 23 2021, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(kloze0031 @ Aug 23 2021, 05:29 PM)
woah so many properties. dont mind me asking, do you provide this draftman service? or any contact recommendation?
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Sorry, only provide for my own client. I'm a constructor.

I can provide you few, which seksyen is yours? Anyway, my advice is to let your contractor do it, even if it costs you a bit more. Why?

1. If you want CCC, your appointed contractor must be CIDB-registered in the correct field code during your application for CCC.

2. There's always some opportunist who come and disturb the work site since your appointed contractor handles the permit and CCC, he have to handle these.

3. There's always changes during progress because property owners visualisation is quite limited, and it affects the work. You don't want your appointed contractor to take this opportunity to put the blame on you. (This if the contractor is jackass'

4. It's a lot of work to go back and forth during application of MBSA renovation permit.

Anyway, usually takes about a month from consultation to receiving your permit and if you are looking forward to having CCC, make sure finish product is the same in drawing.
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post Aug 23 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Q.V.RK @ Aug 23 2021, 06:38 PM)
Sorry, only provide for my own client. I'm a constructor.

I can provide you few, which seksyen is yours? Anyway, my advice is to let your contractor do it, even if it costs you a bit more. Why?

1. If you want CCC, your appointed contractor must be CIDB-registered in the correct field code during your application for CCC.

2. There's always some opportunist who come and disturb the work site  since your appointed contractor handles the permit and CCC, he have to handle these.

3. There's always changes during progress because property owners visualisation is quite limited, and it affects the work. You don't want your appointed contractor to take this opportunity to put the blame on you. (This if the contractor is jackass'

4. It's a lot of work to go back and forth during application of MBSA renovation permit.

Anyway, usually takes about a month from consultation to receiving your permit and if you are looking forward to having CCC, make sure finish product is the same in drawing.
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Noted with thanks sifu. this is very clear. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 16 2021, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(Q.V.RK @ Aug 23 2021, 02:06 PM)
What is the scope / description of your renovation? Is it within the rules of Buku Setara MBSA? Approval is only 1 day if apply with Buku Setara MBSA.
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Hi RK, my property is at u16 and its dsl corner unit. Can I use buku setara MBSA If I just extend the back of the ground floor with land area 5' x 32' ground floor with normal cement tile rooftop ? Tia
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QUOTE(utellme @ Sep 16 2021, 01:51 AM)
Hi RK, my property is at u16 and its dsl corner unit. Can I use buku setara MBSA If I just extend the back of the ground floor with land area  5' x 32' ground floor with normal cement tile rooftop ? Tia
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Unfortunately, no. Only intermediate and end lot that I went through successfully everytime. Never a corner that I tried able to be approved under Buku Setara.

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