Hi,

During this COVID19 pandemic, can the JMB deny entry to contractor if all procedure (registration, deposit) already followed?

This is for contractor to install basic necessities such as internet and water (coway, cuckoo etc).

Appreciate your help.

this morning I asked, my condo already allow...

You need to ask your JMB instead of asking here. Not everywhere is the same. Some allow some dont. Depend on your JMB

JMB also need to follow KPKT SOP guidelines.

The issue is, last week I got contractor to come install internet, no problem with the JMB but today I want to register for coway installation, they say cannot, only for emergency can come in.

How?

Your jmb say no means no.

no they cannot as basic basic necessities are allowed.

Many JMB act like little Napolean, remember the incident where JMB wont allow residents in unless take covid test first?

threaten to sue them for compensation due to loss of income for no internet to WFH and medical bills for lack of clean drinking water due to JMB deny i guarantee you they will kecut.

SOP already allow house renno.

JMB in breach if disallow.

Do you know which law I can refer? If I'm wrong then it's ok but if their action is wrong, why should I follow right

Just becareful and follow Mo advice, my condo here all thr guard under quarantine, they have to seek emergency approval on the budget to appoint another security company as the existing one no more guards to supply

yup JMB have the right to deny your contractor if not follow SOP...
JMB will have SOP such as request Miti letter, a contractor with 2 doses + certificate & RTK or PCR test for contractor

Yes I fully understand if they have extra SOP to be followed but only last week I got contractor coming in without any problem but this week they say cannot. Really got me confused.

because our beloved ex-gov also has changed since yesterday... get the point son?
KPKT are given out the SOP to JMB

This post has been edited by jlkh760830: Aug 17 2021, 12:35 PM

So if KPKT SOP allow & JMB SOP also all followed, they dont have rights to deny the contractor entry, is it correct?

Drive him in in your car.

Yes

Of course this is the easiest way but the management cannot do what they want if not stated in the rules.

coway installation is usually small and clean work.
you can easily bypass the management.

1. assuming you have car park and different access route, you can just bring your contractor to your unit though the car park entry.
2. inform the contractor to wear a bit casual and go in together as family member.

You want to get things done now.

As for the jmb, vote them out next round.

Nahh. I'm quite disagree with you.

I used to work with 1 of the JMB, usually all the decision, yes we decided for it, but there will be 3-5 residents that will keep spamming call, email and keep complaining non stop. Too much free time at home.

Sometimes we need to change rules/SOP in order to satisfy their needs.

Simple things also want to complain.

With the current covid situation, I'm sure there will be a lot of overreact residents that like to complain every single thing.


This post has been edited by xpole: Aug 17 2021, 01:26 PM

one of the hardest thing is to vote out the JMB.

1. fewer real owners attending.
2. there are usually few owners with many units and they are related to developer or management.
3. someplace even have an office building owned by few individuals. (the size alone will beat all us combined together, given the attendance is usually very low)

the last one I attended, we have almost everyone in the same side, but lost in the vote count by miles.
waste of time.

Is up to TS how he wants to do it. Anyway that is another topic.

If other residents complain, then it is JMB job to resolve the complain either by changing the rules or SOP and make sure the updated rules are properly communicated to all the residents.

If you changing the rules without proper documentation, e.g cakap mulut, and the rules are not properly communicated, what you expect other residents to react right?

Honestly I dont mind if the JMB is changing the rules if it is for others safety but it must be properly documented and communicated. Not today you cakap lain, tomorrow you cakap lain just because got complain from others.

condominiums are mostly restricted to own rules and regulations...if you live in one, you'd better get used to it. Honestly it is mostly how they keep things in check and also protect you and your neighbors from further infections. Almost anything will require approval from them...its a simple approval actually...just more paperwork.

This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Aug 17 2021, 01:33 PM

i thought installing cuckoo and coway can be done easily? why need other people to do it for you?

As for internet yes it necessity of cause they allowed it

Cause KPKT flip flop sop also.

No follow then they kena saman 10k random check.

Pls go kpkb at KPKT website or fb for atensi. Your JMB rather play safe than kena saman.

Internet and power is considered essential. Water filter is not.

Its part of their service to come and install bro.. If got people want to do job for you, why you want to do it yourself bro...

Btw if they can give me the machine I also can install it myself

You want bring COVID in your condo? Bangang. No wonder 20k everyday

Ok noted on the essential part

COVID is not the issue bro. The issue is why flip flop on the contractor entry. If say can enter, then put SOP and relevant document say can enter. If cannot enter, then put the rules say cannot enter. Dont say today can enter, tomorrow cannot enter.

No wonder we malaysians are being fucked everyday.

Most condo management need 3 items.

1. MITI letter
2. Covid-19 test.
3. Vaccination cert (2 doses or single dose)

If the contractor has all the above, no problems. If none, then they can block them from coming in.

Well not all JMB make a same stand on this.
Your local JMB decision is final.

Can. Let say on the day they turn up up their temperature is high.
Then they can be refused entry,

On another note, you need to ask your jmb what they deem necessity services. AFAIK water filter is not a necessity since not having it doesn't prevent you from having water.

Just because they also Internet installation doesn't mean they allow water filter installation.
They are not the same thing.

This post has been edited by LamboSama: Aug 17 2021, 02:32 PM

as long as follow sop, why block?

All the JMB here have different opinions to your problem.

Comments can reach page 10, your problem wont be solved and it doesnt matter who is right or wrong.

Some workable solutions are posted and is up to you to do it.

I would have closed this thread and go about the installation.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Aug 17 2021, 05:33 PM

just smuggle in your contractor using your car

Yes i agree some residents are unreasonable and are sohai.

But we are discussing about TS water filter installation here.
Clean water not important? FYI some of the highrise in merehsia have terrible water quality.

Besides what would you and the JMB would have decision in TS case?

Sorry bro, i dun have any law to refer to. Its basic human rights and safety plus common sense.

This is serious /k. You want to bangang go to /k.

He asked you to raise empty threat - means no actual law to substantiate it ... this usually works if stay in low cost flat where JMB are those not so educated person.

JMB can impose rules if is supported by majority of residents.
Residents can bring this up during EGM/AGM if there is disagreement and let the majority to vote whether to continue to allow/disallow.

During Covid-19, most condo management will enhance their SOP beyond the government recommendation as we all know it, the government SOP is lame. And majority residents usually are supportive for enhanced SOP.

Broadband service is considered essential but condo is considered as private area so the rules within the condo are by the residents i.e. their JMB/MC.

Cleaning water filter unsure what category this falls under but don't think is considered essential - as people can live without water filter at home.

Well, let say you can really prove broadband service is causing you loss of income and you wanna hire lawyer to sue the JMB, i wonder how long it will take, and can ding dong for few months and both sides need to appear in court. If you loss the case, you still have to pay for the lawyer fees, if you win, JMB can claim the insurance to cover it (yes JMB is covered by insurance for wrong decision that can cause residents money).

The risk is higher on the resident if want to sue the management in court.

The cheaper solution is to get wireless broadband service temporary ... for water, buy mineral water instead while waiting for more stable situation OR to wait for AGM/EGM to raise your concern.

This post has been edited by p4n6: Aug 17 2021, 09:03 PM

Some condo refuse to allow visitors which require them to enter the building for extended period of time for whatever reason. They allow drop offs from deliveries

Came across 1 condo where a unit experienced failure with their air conditioner. Owner called the technician but he was refused entry until the owner spent some time arguing with the guard and management and the technician was let in