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post Aug 13 2021, 10:56 PM, updated 5y ago

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.......and refuses to discuss handover list.

I have prepared a handover list detailing relevant information to assist with transition to colleagues.

What else should I do?
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post Aug 13 2021, 10:58 PM

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Just follow the list and pass down accordingly. After every session record down and send email so got black and white.
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post Aug 13 2021, 11:05 PM

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You signed an employment contract, not slavery contract

So just do your part and handover professionally, if they refused to co-operate then I guess your next move is to get help from HR

Leave after your notice period
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post Aug 13 2021, 11:37 PM

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Enjoy your last few day in your company without other expecting too much from you and pressureless mood. Then on your last day just sayonara to them. And expecting a good new start
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post Aug 13 2021, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(YantoZyrus @ Aug 13 2021, 10:58 PM)
Just follow the list and pass down accordingly. After every session record down and send email so got black and white.
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I have prepared a handover list. The colleagues that are designated to take over don't want to assume the responsibilities because boss is avoiding the matter and hasn't reviewed nor approved the list.

QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Aug 13 2021, 11:05 PM)
You signed an employment contract, not slavery contract

So just do your part and handover professionally, if they refused to co-operate then I guess your next move is to get help from HR

Leave after your notice period
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Looks like I will have to seek HR's intervention if nothing moves in a week. If HR can't help, then I might just have to run down the clock and leave that handover list on my work desk as I cart my personal belongings after returning all company property and employee tag.
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post Aug 13 2021, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(cfy0104 @ Aug 13 2021, 11:37 PM)
Enjoy your last few day in your company without other expecting too much from you and pressureless mood. Then on your last day just sayonara to them. And expecting a good new start
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Thanks for the tip.
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post Aug 13 2021, 11:47 PM

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Email out your hand over list to relevant people.
After that sit back, relax and wait for your last day.

By having email you have black and white you have done all you can even though your boss is being unprofessional so they cant say your the asshole instead.

Office politics, go figure .....
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post Aug 13 2021, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Aug 13 2021, 11:47 PM)
Email out your hand over list to relevant people.
After that sit back, relax and wait for your last day.

By having email you have black and white you have done all you can even though your boss is being unprofessional so they cant say your the asshole instead.

Office politics, go figure .....
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That's a reasonable option.
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post Aug 14 2021, 09:08 AM

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Was in the same situation before.
Just email handover list and cc everybody involved, and state you'd like to discuss the handover before leaving.

If no response just chill till last day whistling.gif
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post Aug 14 2021, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Aug 13 2021, 10:56 PM)
.......and refuses to discuss handover list.

I have prepared a handover list detailing relevant information to assist with transition to colleagues.

What else should I do?
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Boss strategy is to wait for the last day so you dont enjoy your last day. Some bosses are like that. He just want you to look helpless and clueless what is his next move.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Aug 14 2021, 11:14 AM
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post Aug 14 2021, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(noobinvestor @ Aug 14 2021, 09:08 AM)
Was in the same situation before.
Just email handover list and cc everybody involved, and state you'd like to discuss the handover before leaving.

If no response just chill till last day  whistling.gif
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I am thinking if I should email since what mini orchard says could very well be true too.

QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 14 2021, 11:14 AM)
Boss strategy is to wait for the last day so you dont enjoy your last day. Some bosses are like that. He just want you to look helpless and clueless what is his next move.
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Any idea what I can do to gain the upper hand if this were true, sifu?

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post Aug 14 2021, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Aug 14 2021, 11:18 AM)
Any idea what I can do to gain the upper hand if this were true, sifu?
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Nothing much you can do but just cont with your daily work. He is a boss who knows what you are doing and can take over without much problem.

On your last day, whatever 'temperature' rises, be cool and dont make it a miserable exit.
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post Aug 14 2021, 12:23 PM

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Find the replacement colleague/new hire and disseminate everything. Do it in black and white also (email) and BCC your own personal email.

If boss ask all of a sudden "Why did you not disseminate handover projects to new hires/colleagues" then you have the email to show. Maybe even better, CC your boss also for ref.

This happened to me before and my ex-collegaue still tried to cari pasal. But they can't do much anyway since it's all given in black and white biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2021, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Aug 14 2021, 12:23 PM)
Find the replacement colleague/new hire and disseminate everything. Do it in black and white also (email) and BCC your own personal email.

If boss ask all of a sudden "Why did you not disseminate handover projects to new hires/colleagues" then you have the email to show. Maybe even better, CC your boss also for ref.

This happened to me before and my ex-collegaue still tried to cari pasal. But they can't do much anyway since it's all given in black and white biggrin.gif
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Was hoping I would not have to resort to this measure.
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post Aug 14 2021, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Aug 14 2021, 12:27 PM)
Was hoping I would not have to resort to this measure.
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It may not be the best option but sometimes its necessary. Some people just don't want to co-operate. They love looking for problems even though it's not your shit to begin with.
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post Aug 14 2021, 12:40 PM

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He is just emo you are leaving him. If you dont have any special connection or loyalty towards your superior, then just leave him be.

Life has to move on.
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post Aug 14 2021, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Aug 14 2021, 12:32 PM)
It may not be the best option but sometimes its necessary. Some people just don't want to co-operate. They love looking for problems even though it's not your shit to begin with.
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Some bosses may find not necessary to an early handover. Is not wrong to do on the last day as long everything is handed to next person or the boss when he leaves.

If the handover is completed earlier, what is the resigned guy suppose to do in the office ? Watch the other guy work ? If is sales, the least can go out lepak together.

Whatever, as long the handover is done before he leaves, timing is at discretion of the boss for whatever reasons he sees 'right'.

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post Aug 14 2021, 02:17 PM

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it did happens. It happened twice to me personally after I resigned. This is especially true if the boss is the owner himself. No one talk to you, no one ask for handover, no one give a damn. Ooops, should say the boss and managers ignore you
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 14 2021, 11:14 AM)
Boss strategy is to wait for the last day so you dont enjoy your last day. Some bosses are like that. He just want you to look helpless and clueless what is his next move.
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pretty dumb thing to do really. last day is last day, and it's the boss' responsibility to ensure everything's handled over by then, and the person who's leaving can just ignore and chill (if they're smart)

QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 14 2021, 02:15 PM)
Some bosses may find not necessary to an early handover. Is not wrong to do on the last day as long everything is handed to next person or the boss when he leaves.

If the handover is completed earlier, what is the resigned guy suppose to do in the office ? Watch the other guy work ? If is sales, the least can go out lepak together.

Whatever, as long the handover is done before he leaves, timing is at discretion of the boss for whatever reasons he sees 'right'.
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I just show up in office 2 days a week, where the other 3 days I just left a message on Slack saying: 'working from home. drop me a message if I'm needed in the office'. and this was pre covid.
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post Aug 14 2021, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Aug 14 2021, 07:02 PM)
pretty dumb thing to do really. last day is last day, and it's the boss' responsibility to ensure everything's handled over by then, and the person who's leaving can just ignore and chill (if they're smart)
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My thoughts precisely, but I suppose you live and learn.
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post Aug 14 2021, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Aug 14 2021, 07:02 PM)
pretty dumb thing to do really. last day is last day, and it's the boss' responsibility to ensure everything's handled over by then, and the person who's leaving can just ignore and chill (if they're smart)
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QUOTE(malleus @ Aug 14 2021, 07:04 PM)
I just show up in office 2 days a week, where the other 3 days I just left a message on Slack saying: 'working from home. drop me a message if I'm needed in the office'. and this was pre covid.
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Do whatever you like ....is your problem to solve.
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post Aug 14 2021, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 14 2021, 08:52 PM)
Do whatever you like ....is your problem to solve.
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whatever problems is no longer my problem to solve.

my point is quite simple in the context of the original question from the TS. if the boss ignores whatever handover efforts that the TS tries to initiate, then it's the boss' problem later. he's not obliged to finish everything if everything gets dumped on him on the last day.
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post Aug 14 2021, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Aug 14 2021, 09:28 PM)
whatever problems is no longer my problem to solve.

my point is quite simple in the context of the original question from the TS. if the boss ignores whatever handover efforts that the TS tries to initiate, then it's the boss' problem later. he's not obliged to finish everything if everything gets dumped on him on the last day.
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Is a fact that once a person resigned, whatever problems later is the boss problem.

If TS boss wants it be done on his last day, so be it.

Maybe the boss doesnt need the handover.

Btw, if that is the way you want to resign, is not wromg. Some bosses also dont give a dame.

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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Aug 13 2021, 10:56 PM)
.......and refuses to discuss handover list.

I have prepared a handover list detailing relevant information to assist with transition to colleagues.

What else should I do?
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this is great.
please dont come office tomorrow.
consider as early release.
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post Aug 15 2021, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(otai_g @ Aug 14 2021, 10:35 PM)
this is great.
please dont come office tomorrow.
consider as early release.
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I am working from one now.

HR has been checking our vaccination status and I'm pretty sure they'd want to recall all staff to work in office soonest possible.

I need to clear out my desk too.
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Sorry as I may be lacking work experience, but I'm curious as to why is this a problem?

Based on how some people are replying, it seems that emailing to the next PIC and having black and white proof is not a good idea? I thought that's actually the best case scenario. And if the superior remains unreasonable, it has nothing to do with you anymore as you'll be leaving anyway, in which the mess is not yours to clean up.

Please do enlighten me, maybe I'm still too young to understand different perspectives and factors in workplace conflict.
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post Aug 15 2021, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Aug 15 2021, 06:54 AM)
Sorry as I may be lacking work experience, but I'm curious as to why is this a problem?

Based on how some people are replying, it seems that emailing to the next PIC and having black and white proof is not a good idea? I thought that's actually the best case scenario. And if the superior remains unreasonable, it has nothing to do with you anymore as you'll be leaving anyway, in which the mess is not yours to clean up.

Please do enlighten me, maybe I'm still too young to understand different perspectives and factors in workplace conflict.
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there's nothing wrong with it, and indeed is the recommended approach. just that the bosses from hell type may not like it, as they may think that you're trying to go over them.

personally I'll just go ahead anyways, and ignore such ppl
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post Aug 15 2021, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Aug 15 2021, 06:54 AM)
Sorry as I may be lacking work experience, but I'm curious as to why is this a problem?

Based on how some people are replying, it seems that emailing to the next PIC and having black and white proof is not a good idea? I thought that's actually the best case scenario. And if the superior remains unreasonable, it has nothing to do with you anymore as you'll be leaving anyway, in which the mess is not yours to clean up.

Please do enlighten me, maybe I'm still too young to understand different perspectives and factors in workplace conflict.
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Usually, we come in peace and we try to leave in peace as well.

Having said that, there are many kinds of bosses. The type that is ignoring you after resignation is the type that is trying his or her best to office bully you into submission. It is a different form of power play (read: office politics). It is like a chess game to them, even though you may not be playing against them but they think they are engaging you.
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post Aug 15 2021, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Aug 15 2021, 06:54 AM)
Sorry as I may be lacking work experience, but I'm curious as to why is this a problem?

Based on how some people are replying, it seems that emailing to the next PIC and having black and white proof is not a good idea? I thought that's actually the best case scenario. And if the superior remains unreasonable, it has nothing to do with you anymore as you'll be leaving anyway, in which the mess is not yours to clean up.

Please do enlighten me, maybe I'm still too young to understand different perspectives and factors in workplace conflict.
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In the Appointment Letter, seldom will it mentioned about handing over of work upon resignation. Even if it does, just follow instructions. Dont have to go overboard to make it happen.

The common will be the return of company's assets entrusted to the resigned employee.

If the company wishes to have continuity, they will initiate one. Otherwise, do not have to fret if it doesnt happen.

If the employee wants to be nice or helpful to the next person, leave a note on the table detailing the outstanding job on his last day.
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Then is not your fault. Don't feel bad. He is answerable to his boss and if new colleague cannot cope he's answerable.

Just do the handover with HR or your colleague whom the new colleague may work closely, cc'ing your uncooperative boss....make sure to mention in the email, a line saying:

"In light of Mr. (Your boss name) unavailability to do a handover with me, I am writing this email to you to perform a handover as my last day will (insert last day).."

HR needs to respond for sure, or else they will get screwed for not doing their job. Your boss may / may not respond, is fine.

If boss didn't reply, is true he is not available and it's not your fault. If he replies it means he has to give a shit and make a decision whether himself or someone else will do the handover.

Do that, and quietly leave...sayonara..life is too short to give a fuck about a bad boss, or a bad company

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post Aug 15 2021, 11:58 AM

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Can see why you leave the boss/ company now... I just face the same situation last month. I prepared the handover list but the new staff yet to onboard. My colleague resists to sign the handover list as nobody wants to take on my rubbish jobs. At last, we held a MS Team meeting to discuss on this and I just force my boss to sign. I asked my colleague to take photo of the signed handover list to me as b&w.
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post Aug 15 2021, 12:59 PM

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I worked so long as not sign off handover. During notice period, I just passed the task to other colleagues and guide them if any issue.
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wow so rajin prepare handover sumore
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QUOTE(Ggg123ggg @ Aug 15 2021, 11:58 AM)
Can see why you leave the boss/ company now... I just face the same situation last month. I prepared the handover list but the new staff yet to onboard. My colleague resists to sign the handover list as nobody wants to take on my rubbish jobs. At last, we held a MS Team meeting to discuss on this and I just force my boss to sign. I asked my colleague to take photo of the signed handover list to me as b&w.
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One of my previous supervisors, he was so hands on and confident, he made me handover everything to him. I love that guy.

This is quite different. For sure the hiring manager wouldn't be able to cope and I foresee he is now having difficulty getting my other team members to step up. I tried to speaking to one of them and this one fella was deflecting the handover list, saying let's wait for the boss to decide.

Anyway, I'm very pleased to be moving on. Feel happy and contented.
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post Aug 15 2021, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(xSean @ Aug 15 2021, 12:59 PM)
I worked so long as not sign off handover. During notice period, I just passed the task to other colleagues and guide them if any issue.
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Different companies have different cultures. As cultures are more or less reinforced by management, it is hard to go against the culture of deflecting work, especially in situations like these where my peers/team members have nothing to gain but something to lose instead.

Be grateful you have been blessed to have worked in offices with good culture. Colleagues who willingly take on extra job tasks are great to say the least.

QUOTE(Enjoise @ Aug 15 2021, 01:54 PM)
wow so rajin prepare handover sumore
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It is the least I could do as a responsible and grateful employee. It would help my successor and my employer reduce the gradient of the learning curve. It is for good karma too.
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post Aug 15 2021, 04:22 PM

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Most probably the boss thinks your job can be easily take over by other ppl lo… so no scare also if no pass down haha.

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