Hi KP
Regarding your gecko problem I dont think you should be spraying insecticide inside( I gather it is an aerosol ) as the insecticide particles can remain suspended for quite o period of time. Also if it does affect one of the geckos it will become an easy prey for your SG's & may have severe consequenses for them. Personally I like geck's & love watching them run around the walls & ceilings either chasing insects or other geck's. When the termite season is on some termites ( flying ones ) would find their way in the house & I would flick them to around the tv where there was a geck. It would come out survey the area & eat it than run back to under the tv. Geck's are a god natural insect eater.
Do you mind if I send an email regarding wheels ???.

Vincent
If you still can see bit's of egg in your mix you have not mixed it thoroughly as the mix should be like a paste & not see what ingredients are in it. See the first page for a photo of Huns mix for the consistancy

This post has been edited by Taipan1: Sep 13 2007, 07:52 PM

Dai
To add to what KP said , we can only get mealies & crickets here in Thailand as well, But Weigal ( Care of Australian Reptiles in captivity ) states that crickets have a higher nutrition value than grasshoppers ( locusts ) anyway but more than mealies ie in order
crick's (1 )
locusts ( grasshoppers (2 )
mealies ( 3 )

Can supply "care sheet" on keeping & breeding locusts ( grasshoppers.

This post has been edited by Taipan1: Sep 16 2007, 11:59 AM

Have you got time to breed your own ?????????? .Including cutting grass to feed them ?.

I dont think the grasshoppers they breed to feed rep's & other animals are the local garden type - I think they are bigger
If you like I can send the relevant pages from the above mentioned book on how to breed & collect the eggs

The ones I have seen up here have been smaller - I think the yellow & black is a particular species. I think the ones used for animals are locusts more so than grasshoppers. From a scientific perspective the yellow & black sounds very interesting.

Vincent
As i doubt if you can get the main ingredient that is required to make the Leadbeaters mix I would not be making up something that is not correct. The feeding ratio for leadbeaters is only 1 or 2 TEAspoons not dessert or tablespoons
The percentage of protein ( in the proper cereal ) is 52%- thus you only give your gliders 1 or 2 teaspoons.
If you use 150 ml which by what I have read is the smallest amount of mix one makes without cutting the egg in half or quarters.
What is the brand of cereal used ??.

Hi KP
In McPhersons book the ingredients & proportions are:-
450 ml warm water
3 shelled hard boiled eggs
Vit & min supp's
450 ml honey
75 gr High protein cereal

If you divide the ingredients by 3 ie 1/3rd the amount of water & honey equals 150 ml
I dont have time to check my other 2 books as we leave for Aust. tonight & someone has tried to steal some nursery equipment last night which has caused problems.

Thanks KP
I want to go to Taronga ( I'm from Sydney ) & if possible will see if they have changed their reciepe
Rgds

Hi everyone, seem's like nothing has changed since I last read the threads. KP - sorry to hear that iggy is now a ITTy although some males up here are very doubtfull !!!.
Went to Taronga zoo's nocturnal house whilst on hol's & although they dont have SG's they have Squirrel gliders ( they were hiding), yellow bellied glider & feather tailed gliders. If one thinks SG's are cute should see the FT's. These have adhesive pads like gecks & SG's seem very clumsy alongside them

Wow.... last time I went to Taronga zoo, I fainted and rested somewhere while my family went about the zoo... sigh... so I missed out alot but back then I was only 11 heheheh.

Sorry to hear that you fainted. Things have certainly changed since you visited the zoo although the nocturnal hse could have been there. I think the photo is a FT although it is a bad photo. The "feather tail" comes from the "fur" or "quill's" for want of a better word that is on the sides of the tail. The tail looks like a feather with a mid rib (normal tail) with "quills" on either side. The zoo had 2 enclosers one with about 10plus & the other which seemed to only a few. I ended up buying a book on Australian Mammals which has a history of all known !! Aust.mammals including ones that have become extinct which unfortunately is a few. There are either coloured photo's or in cases of extinct species a drawing. I had an early edition but could not find it so I bought a later edition ( 2000 ) which includes a coloured photo of the rare mahogany glider from Qld Cost of the book was AUD$85.
Hope your back gets better - I wont ask what happened as I got into trouble once asking how a girl got her sore back !!!!!

"Yah, quite a number of animals in Australia are extinct.... some are critically endangered, right? "

Yes there are some critically endangered species but it appears that a large number of extinct species were on the decline before the arrival of europeans & once the cat became established it further hurried the decline or even extinction of some species of mammals & birds. These are only a few of the factors as there are also some natural phenomenons such as long periods of drought that have also been responsible.
If you ever see a copy of the book on Australian Mammals get it - I find it very informative.

KP
regarding the "threads" on diets, someone has sent a reply saying that Eucalyptus trees are found in Malaysia & are apparently quite common. This could very well be the case as they are used extensively in Thailnd for building & possibly for the production of charcoal for cooking. It may be an idea to check. The only thing is that you would have to get the branch's from outside a polluted area - if that is possible.

Fair enough - Although getting the seed from Aust. , germinating it ( if it germinates ) & getting the plants to a size for chopping branch's would extend past the life span of the gliders anyway.
If the person knows of any plantations he/she could send you a separate message & I dont think the plantation owners would mind taking a few branches

"KP: as for the eucalyptus trees, remember i told you i got two big trunk of it...and now they are growing...but the tree is too tall for me to get hold the leaves...ahhaha...have not given to my glider to try yet ... but i was told not to feed them too much as apparently it is like alcohol where too much will make them "mabuk"...from the documentary i saw last time for the koalas....anyone can advice..."

Sugar gliders may eat a small amount of eucalypt leaves but it would if anything me minimal. On the other hand the diet of Koalas is exclusively leaves & yes the reaction of the leaves in their digestive system can cause a form of alcohol - that is why they sleep all the time. I gather the word "mabuk" is Malay for drunk !!!!!!!!

"Here got eucalyptus tree? Where? HAhahah.... I was wondering if my friends could bring me branches from Aussie for me when they come back or not but I wonder if they are allowed to bring in their luggage LOL."

Hello Hun
As mentioned to KP - why get your friends to bring branch's back in their luggage after all i am sure they will find things to fill their bags with. You & KP could take a short sojurn to Thailand & take some back with you !!!!.

" Let's go eucalyptus hunting... Haha "

Can I come ?????????

thats OK I am sure that I could emulate him - can i carry a croc under my arm ?????

Can always use the croc's jaw as a saw !!!

"Can't wait to go home and weigh those little monsters "

KP be very careful as to who ends up in the cooking pot - the "GREMLINS" were not much bigger then Suggies !!!!!!!!

"LOL... croc's jaw.... hahah.... instead of hunting for eucalyptus trees, sounds like killing spree LOL.

Hun - One has to be prepared when one goes hunting - never know what awaits one in Eucalypt forest's maybe giant suggies !!!!!

I think "Gizmo" was the original one & turned into a gremlin once exposed to light - correct me if i am wrong.