thanks for the info... appreciate the advise alot .... well just a simple question...

do i really need a big place for it to stay ? coz wat i heard is that it can be bigger then a hamster cage but then i dont have a place for a bigger ones just for 1 suggie... some say that small cage i can bring it out often to social and play with it rite....

how do u choose and judge a young suggie... i was playing with one which is not more then 5 months old and its very tame with me.... not very active.... or should i go for the hyper active ones... if that wat they said that every suggie suits different kind of owner is it ?

thx u KP...yes he like apple so much...

You will need a medium cage which is 4 to 5 times the size of a hamster cage. Yes, gliders each have their own personality. Some are more quiet, some more crabby, some jumpy etc. Have to see if the glider is for you or not. If you're a timid person, a crabby and bitey joey is not the best choice.

Sometimes it's normal for a joey to be crabby and a little bitey at the beginning because they are scared. Find out the conditions the gliders are kept in at the seller's and you can start judging from there. If the seller pays attention to his gliders, he should know the temperament and attitude of the gliders and help recommend to you as like I said, some joeys react differently to different ppl as they are scared or trying to defend themselves.

About the poo recycling, yes, it does happen in many species of animals. Hamsters and rabbits you can commonly see this behaviour. In gliders not so pronounced but it does happen. Even in elephants! If the animal eats it's own poo, it's to digest it again. If it eats an older individual's poo, it's to obtain the beneficial bacteria and other stuffs from it. If the animal eats poo lying around all the time, it's a habit you've got to curb.

But if the glider is eating poo excessively, then there may be something wrong.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Feb 5 2008, 03:36 PM

YES, the cage MUST be big. That's why I said, if must, read the 1st page over and over again. Cage sizes and pixs are all there dear

It's way bigger than a hamster cage. Even a 3-4 tier hamster cage is not sufficient enough.

Best is a bird cage with a MIN height of 3 feet.

My first cage is a 3 feet one, used that for 1 suggie and then 2. But now I have a larger cage, almost same size with my wardrobe!

To carry them around, it's best to use a proper pouch or a small proper carrier. But they must not be kept confined in the pouch or small carrier if they are awake or active.

Sample of pixs of TOO young joeys are also in the first page, you can use that as guidance.

To choose a non-active or hyper-active suggie depends on you and the suggie itself... No 2 suggies are alike... When you get your suggie, they might not seems active at that time, but they could just surprise you on the next day itself So any suggie is as lovable as others as long as they are healthy

Here's a clearer pix of a healthy suggie at appx. 7 weeks Out Of Pouch (appx. almost 4 months from birth)

Look at how big they'll grow with proper nursing from their parent





Hope this helps


KP

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Feb 5 2008, 03:45 PM

Pertaining to my plan of welding my own cage, thank God today i'm given a chance to do a hands on practise with guidance from my colig, one of the technicians.

It's a good and intresting training.

I'm on the way to finish this project of welding my own cage for my glidies..this year.

Below is a comparison of a good and bad weld..

A good weld will resemble "sisik ikan" whereas a bad weld will be like "tahi ayam", that's how i describe it..

Example of a good weld, p/s: ignore the senget portion.



Example of a bad weld



After practising it, i find that it's not that difficult after all..

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Added on February 5, 2008, 4:08 pmWish everyone a happy holiday and happy CNY..

This post has been edited by silverwineus: Feb 5 2008, 04:08 PM

OOhh... I don't think I'll be trying wielding anytime soon, looks to need some heavy equipment.

I just had a weird thought.... Let's make glider kites and fly em!

wow... wielding your own suggie cages... man that should be huge... anyway man this forums is providing me alot of info and still reading.... man i havent been reading from the computer so much until now....

wat is a bonding pouch ? a regular pouch that use to take out ?

KP, the petshop here said their supplier dont have the pets own lactose free milk. They only have the new born puppy's one. but then it is damn expensive since they are selling it in 2kg packs. So, can u pls pls pls be a dear n post to me the pets own lactose free one? Just tell me the price. Can not?

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Added on February 5, 2008, 4:48 pmHehehe...Congarts silverwineus....
Tried it once.... Better at arc welding. But in gas welding....i failed. Hehehe...cant seem to coordinate this two hands of mine...hehehehe....



This post has been edited by spel'it: Feb 5 2008, 04:48 PM

Haha, I hope your eyes won't fall off too soon Keep on reading

Click on the siggy for suggiestuf below, you'll see how a bonding pouch looks like (Not promoting anything aaa, just asking him to look only )

Yes, it is used for bonding and for taking them out



Sure thing

I also dunno how much yet

I'll get it and post it to you

Will need your addie, just leave me a PM


KP

KP, is that pic of Micah or Molly? They sure look huge..Well fed. Hmmm...poor cheekoo n koochee....They are so kecik...

Nope, that not Molly or Micah... That's a friend's joey

Hey, you know what, I was looking for the Pets Own Milk price and I found out you can buy it direct online ler

Delivery below RM55.00 for peninsular Malaysia is FREE summore

The Pets Own Milk is only RM7.50

Check it out here : http://buddypetwagon.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=31_101

Tadaa!


KP

thanks KP. anyway if i wish to keep my suggie in a small cage not till the saiz of a feet or 2... is it possible to make it happy.... i'm a luv pets but my environment sometimes seems to limit my capabilities to own 1.... use to have a pekingese but have to give it up to my uncle back after a few months of care from me....

thanks u so much for your attention anyway....

The promo for Pets Own Milk is buy 2 free 1

hahaha... and i just leave u a a pm...hehehe

jtl, the promo at buddypetwagon or you?



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Haha, spel'it, so you wanna buy it from there or you want me to get it for you?





Oh NO, NO, NO...

Keeping suggies in a cage less than 2 feet or worse less than 1 feet is a torture to them... Even with frequent outing, I don't think they'll be happy even for one bit if being caged in a cage of that size...

The basic 3 feet cage is not that big at all once you get use to it.

If space or environment is a limit, then you shouldn't get one until you have the space or environment for it.

If you truly love pets, you'll think about it before yourself


KP

Thanks for giving us this helpful info on Pets Own Milk, great, can purchase them online.
Just want to confirm that it is 100% safe for gliders, and if it's in liquid form, should that be mixed with thier food, how should we give this to them?

Yes, Pets Own is safe for suggies as its Lactose Free.

Hun has been using it for found under aged gliders.

I'm not sure in what form it is as I have never used it personally, but if not mistaken it's in powder form and needs to be consumed within a few days after opening if not mistaken.

Hun or Reanne would know more about using/feeding Pets Own


KP

This thread is moving so speedily, i could not catch up to it!!!

Apple has a bright eyes, indicating alertness, also with healthy form..She must be in good hands..
Bravo..

The promo is from the distributor


Pets Own is in liquid form. It is also excellent for newborn puppies or kittens who do not have mothers milk

I was about to say liquid after looking closely at the packaging

Thanks jtl


KP