Sorry guys, I have been very busy lately, my Slurp orders also kena slow down a bit hahah....

Cage cage.... I also found my dream cage like KP.... but then my dad got some issues about the size LOL.

Price not bad lah..... affordable, the cage reaches my chin, that's like 4ft already hahah.

Pet Safari's Toby Pets is being very unethical. Can you imagine.... if I was a newbie, and I did not do my research and listen to the stuff.... I would be purchasing an underage joey that only feeds on apples and babyfood.... and I would be keeping it in a reptile glass tank with a reptile heat lamp.

Gliders reptilia ke?

Stupid...... dumb dumb dumb staff this time.

Jar/bottled baby food has nothing but loads of Vit A, less than 2g of protein, sometimes 0g protein, no sufficient clacium, high in phosphorus and water.... also acidic..... poor glider is not getting any nutrients.... apples are also loaded with Vit C and Vit A.... but what about the rest? Kesian.....

The RM250 cage, that white tall cage is the best size! Anyone with money, do get that as it is perfect for a pair or even 3.

The breeder that is supplying the joeys to Pet Safari is plain money making only. The breeder advice them to feed apples coz his breeding gliders only eat apples and dogfood, nothing else... imagine.... those poor breeding gliders will have shorten lives.... unhealthy bodies from overbreeding.....

Flexarium for traveling is good... but mine damn big! The 4ft kind hahahah.....

It is normal for some gliders to show interest to a body part. Mine likes my ears and neck.... 1 likes my head....

LOL, congrats.

For my mix, see my signature.

Anyway, males are bigger a bit, but about not being active, that depends. Each glider got their own personality and routine.

Coconut shell is not so good.... coz it causes staining and smell.

Wahhhh.... Gigi living in a bungalow hahaha. So nice. The wheel a bit small, but with a cage that big, wheel also not necessary.

So is she very bonded to you? Grown up, can see her cuteness.

Great. So good to hear that you and Gigi are good together.

Whoa, not bad. Good DIY cage.

Hehehe... KP answered all, I don't need to say much today hahahah....

My gliders had a fruit fiesta last night. Apple, pear, orange, kiwi, carrots, mango yogurt and 1 dog kibble each. All finished everything, bowls clean clean.

Hmmm.... who is he? Not many are homebreeders...... you have to check the condition of the glider/joey..... RM300 is a normal price but the quality depends.....

you guys should try custard apples on your gliders. All the 8 gliders under my care love them! Joeys too! But make sure you take out the large seeds.

Ai, so sorry I couldn't answer you. Reanne advised you already by the time I was aware of this.

anyway, it is hard to not let him lick the affected area coz gliders are flexible.... unless you can make him wear a cone collar, but that is a bit risky.....

Aiko become a mama? CONGRATS!

Anyway, Broken_string, hope your little boy recovers well. So far Dr Yeoh is more trusted when it comes to glider health problems.

Whoa, so many replies.... well, I have been working pretty long hours... 10am to 10pm now... super tired, so that is why you guys don't see me often. I will update the glider thread once I got some time as I have come up with more fruits to list down, as well as more new tips.

For those who got their joeys from Reanne or me, we do provide free nail trimmings once the joeys or gliders have bonded to you..... coz if we trim them now while they are not close to you, they may not trust humans that handle their hands and feet later on.

Broken_String, your case is the same with buttercup..... wonder why this thing happen too..... really odd. But then buttercup's joey recovered so yours will too.

With me not being around, KP has been a great help hahahah.....

Sorry to all, long long reply.... but this needs to be replied.

The nail broke off, you need not worry. The nail will regrow but it would look bigger and weird.... then after it has regrown properly, it would take a few trimmings before it looks like normal. I know coz I also experienced before with my glider....

Brown spots like chicken? I find that so strange hahaha,.....

OK, so it is dirt. Do not use baby oil.... just take a wet towel or cloth, dip it in warm water and wipe. Soak the fur if you must but never soak your whole glider lah. The wet towel would do well.

Hahaha.... Teddy suits him. Your lil boy is slightly bigger now, still the sweet little thing, waiting for you hehehe.

It depends on the gliders. My females don't mind other gliders, but my male joey is now anti-social a bit hahaha.... Each glider have different friendliness hahahah.

You wanna get one?

Pear doesn't really cause diarrhea unless it is the only fruit you are feeding. Apples has a higher fiber content than pear. Is like if you feed a glider with too much papaya, then say hello to watery smelly poo poo. So the key thing is to feed a variety of fruits.

Mealworms are fattening, that is why we prefer crickets. The fat content is super high, so if we feed them say RM1 worth of mealworms a day, and that means everyday for a year, the glider is very likely gonna have some vision problems. It is not BLINDNESS.... it is just a white fat build up that covers up the eye.... It interferes with vision only.... and it can be treated too. If you feed 10 mealworms a day, is alright.... no biggie coz that WOULD NEVER cause a glider to go blind.

Catfood.... choose one which is holistic, has no garlic or avocado, no soy, no corn. Protein % should be high as that is good, but make sure you never feed more than 2 pieces a day. Only as a treat coz this can be given as a supplement.

No lah.... pear won't give diarrhea but if say given without other types or fruits, then yes.... coz as said before, the fiber content in pears is not as high as apples....

Whoa.... cut back on the oranges. Only feed 1 piece of orange once a week as it is high in citric acid. Well, do go on with as many foods as you can give. I feed mine jambu air madu, ciku, , guava, water chestnuts, sugar apple, mango, papaya, apples, pears, oranges, melons, sawi, bayam, carrots.... is good to alternate the variety of fruits and veggies so that they can get different nutrition.

Ahahaha... adoii for me as well.

But I agree with you too. A miller or commercial breeder is someone who breeds for quantity, not quality. I get sooooo many phone calls from god knows who, asking for hamsters.... ok fine, you want hamsters.... then I'll say I only got 2 left.... then they will freaking ask "When will you have more?" and since I'm no commercial breeder, of course no more.... then he/she would reply that he wants a constant supply, wanting gerbils and hamsters at wholesale price. Ok.... byebye to you, I will never sell to anyone who wants my animals at that price, for petshops or whatever.

There is a difference. A hobbyist breeder would be breeding to improve quality of the species or variety of the animal. Care, good quality food and spacious husbandries are used to produced quality pets. Selection of proper breeding lines, resting schedules and so forth.... so many things to think about. And most of the time, hobbyist breeders never make money. Honestly, I never make a profit for myself.... I'm always short of cash, I work part time to gain money to feed my pets.... I never indulge in luxury, everything goes to my pets. A commercial breeder would not be thinking of quality, more like how many he can churn up in a month for the increasing demand.

The "breeder" would then of course say what he feeds is the best.... but say this to oversea breeders, PETA may come and create a riot over the care of these animals at commercial breeders.... dogfood..... catfood.... if you do not feed a holistic brand without garlic.... then the glider would never have a long life. 10 years! A glider has a long lifespan for a small animal. Feeding dogfood and catfood that we have mentioned are given as treats, NEVER as a 24 hour staple. Apples are loaded with Vit A and Vit C, same as pears.... so where is the glider getting the other nutrition? From the dogfood? Dogfood and catfood are staples for dogs and cats, never for a glider.

How about cages? Tiny bird or hamster cages, crammed up with 4 gliders in 1 cage, with only 1 coconut to share, a bowl of dogfood and a bottle of water. I have seen it before, filth and everything.... this is why we tell people to get from proper breeders.... My 1st glider came from a commercial breeder, totally regret it coz her size was so small.... now my other gliders are from breeders, can see got a difference in them.

Is like buying dogs..... if we get from a proper breeder, we get a quality pet.... but from a puppy miller or certain petshop like Petsmore? Tsk.... I have seen my friends suffer and regret getting dogs from petshops and non-ethical dog breeders.

So far we have not pointed fingers nor mention names publicly, we did mention people to check their sellers if they are hobbyist breeders or commercial breeders.....

We do this coz we care, we care about the animals.

Wahhh.... that sounds like poor appetite. You can always boost the appetite with some Pets Own lactose free milk.

You're a business man, so you think and talk like one. We are pet lovers, so your outlook and our outlook is different. There will always be a barrier between a business man and a pet lover..... all are breeders, but we can put them as miller or hobbyist..... there is a difference. Anyway, both you and iory are related I think coz both usernames have been detected by the system as linked..... by seeing both your sales threads and replies... who knows... could be 1 person with a few accounts.....

So 110% agree!!!!!

Hope you're not gonna feed cococrunch to the joey that's from me..... LOL, if not, the breeder would come and haunt your sleep Anyway, it is best to do your own research first, then gain experience from breeders or keepers with both knowledge and experience.... then learn along with your gliders. That's how I do it too.... I never stop learning, I read on and on.....

About the aggression from eating insects.... it really isn't correct. A glider NEEDS to eat insects..... the aggression is actually excitement. not aggressive wolf-type attack mode lah.... it is so excited till it looks like attacking you but the glider just wants to feast on that juicy insect.

Anyway, you can get your joey next Friday coz I'm gonna be off on that day heheheh.....

Yeer... don't get. That product doesn't work and most of the Zero Odor in Malaysia is the Delikate product, which doesn't work. I wasted my money..... unless you import the original Zero Odor from US, then that works.

Why walnuts? Firstly, gliders do not need nuts.... not really save for them..... even seeds.... but certain seeds like flaxseed is good for them, provided it is processed into powder and without the husk.

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Added on February 12, 2008, 1:43 amAnyway, just finished reading the thread... gosh, been away for a few weeks and so much happened.... anyway, update me on any planning or what so ever. I just finished working, been so awfully busy.... sorry for those who could not contact me, been so terribly caught up and tired out.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Feb 12 2008, 01:43 AM

I still de-seed the cherry tomatoes I give my gliders hahaah..... maybe I'm too over cautious.... anyway, is good to give tomatoes and oranges once a while. Of course only a little bit of orange lah coz it can cause watery stool. I usually serve with the skin as well coz the white parts of the skin is very nutritious. Make sure the skin is scrubbed clean of course.

Iggy, so handsome. No bald spot at all hahahaha..... handsome handsome.

Sometimes gliders do go into a energy spurt, some is from excitement, some comes from fright or shock or surprised.... but it generally is ok lah.

Your mealworms.... how do you keep them? Even without an oat or wheat bedding, as long you leave them in an open container, they should not die. Mealworms need lots of ventilation.... and also food from veggies and dog/cat kibble....

Go with other fruits. I usually visit those small fruit stalls and get a few sliced fruits to keep at home. But now with so many gliders at home, I need to go to pasar malam to get bags of fruit hahahah.

Try plums, ciku, guava, persimmon, sugar apples.... yummy!

Babyfood.... Heinz is good but if you can afford an extra RM2, go and get the Organic babyfood..... much better, some even got chicken and turkey. Just read the ingredients and make sure no onion and garlic. Some babyfood contain onion and garlic.

If you got cash, you should try Cherries! My gliders all love cherries alot. Expensive but super sedap. Also, rambutans are a favourite as well.

Sawi and kangkung, normally gliders don't eat but shred them..... give raw is good. Anyway, the best way is to blend the veggies into a puree, then only the gliders would makan but some gliders are picky so may have to mix with some other sweet fruits and yogurt.

You can gutload insects with veggies.

You can keep them for up to a month or 2 if you store in the freezer. Berries such as raspberries, blueberries, cherries, strawberries and cranberries store very well in freezers. You should try making a berry treat for them. Get a couple of each berry, blend till smooth with yogurt and some powdered baby cereal, when thick like milkshake consistency, freeze it in an ice-cube tray. Your gliders will love it.

You can find these not only at Carrefour but Cold Storage, Jusco and also the fruit stall at KL Sentral and the stall at Avenue K.

My gliders are like balloons! The way they eat.... till belly become bloated. I'm surprised that my gliders can finish all their fruits and still want to eat more hahahah. Now 4 gliders (3 are mine and 1 is boarding) are fat chubby monsters.

Anyway, take advantage of local fruits.... jambu and jambu air is full of calcium. Ciku and mangoes are well loved, same as rambutan, papaya and sugar apples....

Kapi is just plain greedy. In her left paw was a piece of honey dew, and her right paw a piece of ciku. She took 1 bite of the honey dew, then another bite of ciku, and she kept alternating her left and right paw. Sigh, so cute. Kiah prefers to munch on ciku and sun melon.

If you guys can afford RM5, just go to Cold Storage and find imported yogurt. I think gliders would love it since it is full fat and full of flavours. Full fat yogurt is much better than low fat.

About the pee thing..... gliders do have 2 types of pee.... but with 1 glider, I don't think much marking is done. Teddy has not started marking yet..... his bald spot still not prominent yet. I've seen gliders mark their owners too, the males do it in such a cute way hhahah.

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Added on February 17, 2008, 9:11 pmSoy oil should be fine.... I just stay away from the soy protein, coz there was an article on soy protein being bad for gliders. Somehow the article is missing from the website, it was also on lima beans and avocado.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Feb 17 2008, 09:11 PM

Yah.... I remember 1 male peed on me when he jumped onto my shoulder, it was the marking pee.... wahhhh... damn stinky, but then I didn't change my shirt lah heheheh....

My inbox full, wait ar..... need to clear some stuff.

LOL, the thing is, it is not my glider hahahah....