Ofcourse lah I meant the suggies

If you get from KL, you can travel by public transport back with your suggie without a problem

You see, they sleep during the day and love pouches. So if you bring them back on a bus during the day, they will only sleep quietly in the pouch

That's one of the beauty of suggies

I travel as far as KL-Kelantan with my suggies(but ofcourse in a car lor)... They'll just sleep snuggle in their pouches until arrive to the destination


KP

Oh yeah, there's a lot of commitment having a glider and it's a long term commitment too

Where are you from?

Some countries don't allow keeping gliders as pet.

Haha, bring them shopping also, people won't know unless I bring them out, cuz they will be sleeping in their pouch hung around my neck


KP

No worries

Yeah, I can have it posted to you. I use Pos Express, not Pos Laju(not so Laju... )

Lemme know lah...



I see

Haha, don't say like that lah, I enjoy Indonesian movie culture and some parts of the country itself

I think Indonesia can keep gliders cuz even the ones that comes into Malaysia are from there, not Australia or Papua New Guinea. I heard that they are selling it damn cheap over there, but just be caution if they are wild caught or captive bred.

Haha, I think I stay in far-away land lah In Ampang area...

I always go to Ikano area for shopping or window shopping or just plain eating out

Anywhere near you?


KP

Ahh, it's good that you know that

Yeah, getting from home breeders or breeders that you know is better

Haha, I think I know which Korean food you went for, my friend has been bugging me to go there, but I'm not that interested

Yeah, we can always meet up at Ikano if you want

I go there like almost every week or every other week I also dunno why, hahaha


KP

Haha, Ikano at Damansara, near the Curve, Cineleisure & Ikea

Yeah, I normally go by car, but Ikano is also accessible via LRT cuz they have Free buses going to specially Ikano

Other place can, but I rarely go lar, hahaha, Ikano is like my 2nd home dy


KP

The LRT that has the FREE bus to Ikano is at Kelana Jaya station lor.

The bus is frequent there, got every 30 mins.

It's a bright bus that says it goes to Ikano and it's Free

Where do you always go?


KP

Oh, I didn't notice the mentioned of SG-Singapore... I keep thinking it was SG-Sugar Glider Hahaha

Yeah, Singapore cannot bring in or keep exotics yah, they're very2 strict one

I don't even dare to risk bringing mine over there if I go for Holidays.

Thanks broken_string for noticing


KP

Yeah, yeah, I know S'pore cannot keep glider one, I didn't notice she said SG as in S'pore, haha

But I heard a lot of S'pore people so want to keep gliders wor, but dunno if they manage to or not lar


KP

Yep. But we'd never know if there is actually anybody keeping 'em or not


KP

Better don't risk it. There has been cases where the S'pore authorities have actually capture people for doing so. The term & fine is definitely a killer. So, just don't bring in your suggies when you visit S'pore...



Refer to all my answers above in Bold.



Unfortunely there is no specific way to know if your glider is sick. They can mask or cover their sickness very well until it is too late for us to do anything.

However, how do you know you glider's temperature is higher than normal? Did you use a termometer to check? If not and you felt it by your bare hand, do remember that they are not human and you cannot just tell it's temperature by holding it.

Furthermore, they are mammal, warm blooded, so they should feel warm to your touch.

Pee will always be warm or suam. I have never encounter any animal(or human for that matter) pee that is cold or not warm.

All my glider's pee is warm.

I do not think there is anything for you to worry here.


KP

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Added on November 13, 2007, 10:49 amAhh, CFP, long time no see Chika & Aiko

They look lovely

The fruits galore looks great, sure Chika & Aiko enjoy it very much!

Anyway, here's Iggy pulak having a ball on my room curtain in the middle of the noon on Sunday






KP



This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Nov 13 2007, 10:49 AM

Hehe, the clear pix is due to the flash and focus, if no flash memang blur giler... Plus that is a good 1 out of 3

All my pixs are cropped, added caption, watermarked and such by using Photoshop I'm a whiz at that, hahaha

If blur pix, Photoshop also cannot help, but if it's dark only, it can be brighten up and bring out all the detail with Photoshop


KP

Are sure he is 2 months old?

Where did you get him from?

Upon maturity male gliders will develop a scent area at the chest, thus it will turn yellowish.

Which part is he losing his fur? Could be a sign of over grooming or lack of vitamin.

My best advise is bring him to a vet immediately. We can't see your glider, how is his condition now, so we can't tell and furthermore, we are not doctors.

Vet recommendation, Dr Yeoh of Yeoh Veterinary at Taman Megah, PJ. You can get his full address in the vet list.

Do it asap.


KP

Yes, a variety of fruits, mealworms or crickets and mix is fine. You can refer to the diet I wrote in the 1st page.

Losing fur can be something serious and like I told you before, we cannot diagnose what's wrong with your glider ourselves, further more we can't see him ourselves.

It's really best you bring him to a vet as soon as possible.

Don't wait and see what happens, get him checked fast.


KP

Balding for male glider is absolutely normal

Be it wider, a little or too much.

Male gliders have a scent gland on their forehead. This scent gland actually produces musky smelling liquids. When this liquid dries and sticks to their fur, some of the fur will fall off easily when they groom. My male glider once got a huge shiny bald patch, but not to worry as I soon found out that the fur will grow back every time they lose it


KP

Haven't been around for the past few days, so many things has happened...

Regarding those poor gliders sold at Petaling Street, it is just plain cruel and a sad-sad case... Keeping them all like that and selling them for the purpose of breeding Breaks my heart to pieces upon seeing the pix...

Yes, those are definitely adult gliders and definitely not less than 1 year. They are all NOT tame. Will definitely bite and be agressive. Even the health of it is not assured. That is why the selling price is so low.

I wish if there is only a way to put a stop for this kind of selling... But what can I do alone when our whole gov/organization is not doing anything?

Trust me, by next year or a few more years to come, glider's fate will become like what has become of hamsters today...





I'd think that it is most probably caught from the jungle.

Definitely not in our jungle, but in Indonesia.

I don't think there is any locally breed adults as much as that.



Glad you took him to see Dr. Yeoh.

I wish him speedy recovery

Do keep us updated on his recovery progress.



Gliders cannot be bathe without the proper knowledge to do so. Their fur is highly absorbent, will absorb water very fast and can cause cold or sickness if not dried up properly.

Best to just wipe them clean with baby wipes.



Why do you wanna give him pinkie?

I think mealworms and crickets and boiled chicken meat should be suffice.

Giving a pet glider pinkie can be messy and gruesome as they will tear off the limbs bit by bit to eat it... So unlike snakes that will just swallow it whole.



No sane pet shop or person or breeder will sell a tame glider for that price. Go figure.



I don't think I can stomach seeing them like that as often as you do

If the intended breeder here are like those in the US, who really will care for them, give them proper housing and food, I don't really mind... But almost all intended glider breeders here, just wanna breed them for money and not taking care of anything else Atleast proper housing and food would be almost great already... But...

Pity those gliders, from one bad place to another...

If only I have the money, space and time...

Sigh...

KP

Did you check with Dr. Yeoh whether the vitamin is okay for sugar gliders or not, and what is the feeding dosage?

If he said okay, then should be okay lor

I'm not so good at looking at those content. Have to cross check with the vitamin supp I have.

Mebbe Hun can help


KP

It's better to give it with the food, not just like that.

I usually either add the the vitamin & calcium in their mix or I feed to the mealworms.

Haha, if can get those color variants here, I'd be the first to get 'em.

We don't have any color variants, we only have standard grey.

And I've also checked to import one, but it will cost a bomb and very risky due to the long flight.


KP

Actually, there are so many color names that they use to refer glider colors, and most of the names just popped up along the way, like black beauty, red brown, champagne and so on. From my understanding these are all actually standard grey that has slight deeper or lighter grey coloration.

Some breeders are known to give the color name just to attract people.

Unlike white-face, albino, leucistic, white-tip, ring-tail and a few more I think are actual different coloration that can easily be differentiate between.

Yeah, we should be happy that we even have gliders in Malaysia, but no doubt, I still wish to own a leucistic or ring-tail or white-tip if possible


KP

A 100% Leucistic is priced at USD2,000 and above. Very rare to get and mostly kept by the breeders themselves.

Shipping would cost from USD500-USD700. But it is still not encouraged/advisable as the journey is tooooo long.

That alone is the price form the breeders side, I have not checked the cost on our Malaysia side, cuz converting that alone, it's not affordable at all!

Imported from the USA.

I tried checking with a friend who is coming back from the US, but since her flight is connecting flight, it's so out of the question...

But I still wish... Haha


KP

I would think it's albino glider(with red eye). Leucistic are mainly seen or available in the US only as they do/explore on color breeding.

Red eyes are scary to me, so I prefer leucistic than albino Haha, but I'd take any other color considering our situation

White face are more common so the pricing is not that steep around USD350 and above... Haha, with you guys going into colors and all, make me wanna negotiate with them again

Yeah, they definitely have a ranch of breeding WC gliders there in Indo, or else how could they be exporting so many gliders out?

But I wouldn't wanna visit the ranch for it will definitely not be a pretty sight



No, those colored gliders are no different than the ones we keep, the only difference is their coat color.

And a big NO that those colored gliders are "cacat" or anything.

Those color breeders study their genetics and do color breeding for a few generations past to see how it works and that is how they get all the colors...

Albino's are not "cacat", they only don't have color pigmentation, thus all fur and coat remain white. We have albino people what, they're not "cacat" in any way at all.

Regarding your Abu and his new mate, did you do proper introduction before putting them together?

Proper introduction will need atleast a week or two in separate cages and interaction or playtime with close supervision.

Gliders sexually matured at age 6-7 months above, some even later than that.

There is no sexual activity here, but most likely fights or playtime.

There is no problem putting a 3 months old glider with a 2 months old as they are still very young, but still proper introduction is needed!

For now, they should not be left together without any supervision.

Read up on proper introduction, playtime and fights, you should have read and studied more about gliders before even getting another one.


KP