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post Sep 10 2007, 01:32 PM, updated 17y ago

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I undervolt my E6600 @ 2.4Ghz from stock 1.325V to 1.020V with temperature @ 44C full-load with room ambient @ 30C (CPU stress test with orthos > 2hr in progress w/o any error yet); Super PI gave me no impact on the performance. Btw, will undervolt cause any harm to the CPU or other components? Thks in advance~

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post Sep 10 2007, 01:36 PM

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tat is underclocking...main advantages is to save power comsumption...i do it too...

i don think there is any harm to the processor
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post Sep 10 2007, 01:39 PM

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underclock = lower than default speeds.
undervolt = lower than default voltages
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post Sep 10 2007, 01:42 PM

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thumbup.gif, used to do it on my Venice E6, instead of 1.4, i use 1.2vCore, damn i love the temp even on stock heatsink, well that's the old story eh... tongue.gif
anyway, there's nothing wrong with undervolting/underclocking, it's just lead to unstable system due to low voltage supplied icon_idea.gif, correct me if i'm wrong... icon_idea.gif blush.gif
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Sep 10 2007, 01:36 PM)
tat is underclocking...main advantages is to save power comsumption...i do it too...

i don think there is any harm to the processor
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QUOTE(slash @ Sep 10 2007, 01:39 PM)
underclock = lower than default speeds.
undervolt = lower than default voltages
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@nate_nightroad, as slash mentioned, it is undervolt not underclock and thus i suppose there is no impact on the performance, mind to tell your setup?


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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Sep 10 2007, 01:42 PM)
thumbup.gif, used to do it on my Venice E6, instead of 1.4, i use 1.2vCore, damn i love the temp even on stock heatsink, well that's the old story eh... tongue.gif
anyway, there's nothing wrong with undervolting/underclocking, it's just lead to unstable system due to low voltage supplied icon_idea.gif, correct me if i'm wrong... icon_idea.gif blush.gif
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orthos should be able to test on the stablity right? thks~

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post Sep 10 2007, 01:49 PM

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i did mine same as urs which is at 1.020V..but i also underclock mine as well from 2.4 till 1.9...

run steady...can play most of the games(oblivion,nba,fifa,C&C)....

temp i think is around 40+
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Sep 10 2007, 01:42 PM)
thumbup.gif, used to do it on my Venice E6, instead of 1.4, i use 1.2vCore, damn i love the temp even on stock heatsink, well that's the old story eh... tongue.gif
anyway, there's nothing wrong with undervolting/underclocking, it's just lead to unstable system due to low voltage supplied icon_idea.gif, correct me if i'm wrong... icon_idea.gif blush.gif
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It is best to test for stability when you undervolt and underclocked. I usually run orthos blend test for 6-12 hours at that underclock/undervolt setting. If it passes, then I would consider the rig 99.99% stable.... smile.gif
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post Sep 10 2007, 09:17 PM

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I undervolt my laptop. The laptop is now cool enough to be switched on 24/7 with folding@home, without laptop coolers. I think undervolting actually extends the life of the processor, instead of causing damage. I do prime95 for at least 6 hours to determine the lowest stable voltage.
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yes its safe but generally it cannot exceed the -10% mark IIRC
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post Sep 10 2007, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Sep 10 2007, 09:17 PM)
yes its safe but generally it cannot exceed the -10% mark IIRC
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I undervolted 22.69%. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Sep 10 2007, 09:17 PM)
yes its safe but generally it cannot exceed the -10% mark IIRC
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Is that referring to the voltage or the speed? I would guess the vcore right? hmm.gif
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post Sep 10 2007, 09:22 PM

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Should be vcore. smile.gif
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I see. I did do some research on undervolting previously but never came across anything saying that the vcore should not be lower than a certain percentage.

The only thing that was theorectically harmful was for older generation AMD CPUs, something about mem controller shouldn't be less than 0.325v compared with the vcore....
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 10 2007, 09:19 PM)
I undervolted 22.69%. thumbup.gif
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mak aii shocking.gif nicee.....

wan question when the proc in fullload also no problem rite even u undervolt it?if u passed orthos shud be stable.During gaming suddenly hanged or restart wud be annoying sweat.gif
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QUOTE(styloe @ Sep 11 2007, 01:46 AM)
mak aii  shocking.gif  nicee.....

wan question when the proc in fullload also no problem rite even u undervolt it?if u passed orthos shud be stable.During gaming suddenly hanged or restart wud be annoying  sweat.gif
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My system have to be rock stable since I do folding@home. If it's unstable, folding will fail. I recommend running 2 instances of Prime95 to test for undervolting stablity.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 11 2007, 09:33 AM)
My system have to be rock stable since I do folding@home. If it's unstable, folding will fail. I recommend running 2 instances of Prime95 to test for undervolting stablity.
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any differences if i running orthos instead of 2x prime5 as i suppose orthos = prime95 x2.
just now tried 0.88V, the system passed POST but failed to boot-in windows sweat.gif
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post Sep 13 2007, 05:21 PM

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undervolting recommended for laptop? i've undervolt mine around 15% using NHC - dynamic switching. now my voltage is same with sonoma LV processor. i'm using sonoma 1.86GHz , 533MHz FSB

there was once the laptop crash while on battery, other wise on AC no problems what so ever.
already stress test while on AC for 6 hours, no problem.

how to stress test on battery?

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QUOTE(gary_cheah85 @ Sep 13 2007, 05:21 PM)
undervolting recommended for laptop? i've undervolt mine around 15% using NHC - dynamic switching. now my voltage is same with sonoma LV processor. i'm using sonoma 1.86GHz , 533MHz FSB

there was once the laptop crash while on battery, other wise on AC no problems what so ever.
already stress test while on AC for 6 hours, no problem.

how to stress test on battery?
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yes, i undervolted my T7200 as well and the outcome is impressive, really cooling down a lot than what i expected (i posted the setting & outcome mths ago). crash on battery? could it be just a coincidence?
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 13 2007, 10:21 AM)
any differences if i running orthos instead of 2x prime5 as i suppose orthos = prime95 x2.
just now tried 0.88V, the system passed POST but failed to boot-in windows sweat.gif
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I'm not so sure about orthos. I've never used it. tongue.gif

My laptop remains stable even it's on batteries. Maybe you should add another notch of voltage for improved stability.
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the stock vcore of the e6600 is 0.85 - 1.35

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