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post Aug 12 2021, 01:53 AM, updated 5y ago

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post Aug 12 2021, 02:19 AM

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Tldr for non banking peasant? Is it good or is it bad?
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post Aug 12 2021, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(~min~ @ Aug 12 2021, 02:19 AM)
Tldr for non banking peasant? Is it good or is it bad?
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Someone replied. Sorry, ayam not financial knowledgeable as well.
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post Aug 12 2021, 02:52 AM

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Scared of negative equity calls by banks?
How about interbank rate, not affected?
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post Aug 12 2021, 02:57 AM

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Wow, interbank rate less than 2% since Corona.
And market still soft like old man kukujiao.
Even bank got money, also no market participants.
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post Aug 12 2021, 05:45 AM

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Any effect to borrowers?

Apart from the name change
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post Aug 12 2021, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Aug 12 2021, 02:57 AM)
Wow, interbank rate less than 2% since Corona.
And market still soft like old man kukujiao.
Even bank got money, also no market participants.
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Not no market participants, banks are more strict in giving out loan.
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post Aug 12 2021, 06:37 AM

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QUOTE(bsa12 @ Aug 12 2021, 06:30 AM)
Not no market participants, banks are more strict in giving out loan.
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Then what they keep the money for?
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post Aug 12 2021, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Aug 12 2021, 06:37 AM)
Then what they keep the money for?
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Banks always like that: they don't loans when market or economy is bad.
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post Aug 12 2021, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(bsa12 @ Aug 12 2021, 06:46 AM)
Banks always like that: they don't loans when market or economy is bad.
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So serve them right, punish them cannot set rates anymore.
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post Aug 12 2021, 06:55 AM

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Source: https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bnm-...ans-august-2022
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post Aug 12 2021, 07:03 AM

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Not for fixed rate loan. BNM is also pandai ma hehe (i think la coz I'm also not financially knowledgable also)

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post Aug 12 2021, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Aug 12 2021, 06:55 AM)
So serve them right, punish them cannot set rates anymore.
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Based on historical setting of BR, the banks dont deviate from OPR changes anyway. If OPR down 0.25, BR also drop 0.25. This move is purely for consumer ease of comparison between banks. Banks can still set their spread as they wish
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post Aug 12 2021, 07:57 AM

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only for new loan takers ..
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post Aug 12 2021, 07:59 AM

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correct me if i'm wrong.

this is good for new borrowers. coz all banks standard base rate, so bank wanna earn, need to approve more loan -> which leads to property bull run and we'll see property prices rise again
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:01 AM

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Thats just a name change right? BR is always fixed by bnm hmm.gif
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:02 AM

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so now, the only difference is profit rate between banks?

that should make it easier to choose

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post Aug 12 2021, 08:02 AM

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Isn’t this like u-turn back to previous BLR (base lending rate)?

Even with BR, in the end every bank still charge roughly similar interest rate due to competition.
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:05 AM

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Good for consumers cos bloody sotong bank increase their base rate 2x before when they were no increase in the OPR

I send complaint to BNM via telelink but nothing can be done cos banks were free to set their own base rate
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:23 AM

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Just like US easy to control inflation and deflation
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:30 AM

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good let the gov control bank not bank control gov
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Aug 12 2021, 02:57 AM)
Wow, interbank rate less than 2% since Corona.
And market still soft like old man kukujiao.
Even bank got money, also no market participants.
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Oh man, how 🤔 u know old man soft?
From your experience?
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Aug 12 2021, 01:53 AM)

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I read 2x, cakap serupa tak cakap. Ape mechanism-nya?
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 12 2021, 08:38 AM)
I read 2x, cakap serupa tak cakap. Ape mechanism-nya?

Just bnm tukar jenama baju from polo to amani?
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:42 AM

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so its good for consumers like us ?
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post Aug 12 2021, 10:28 AM

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post Aug 12 2021, 10:31 AM

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To summarize, can I say all banks will now offer the exact same interest rate for those mentioned individual loans?

So I go Maybank, Public Bank, HSBC, RHB etc for house loan all will offer the same interest rate?

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post Aug 12 2021, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ Aug 12 2021, 10:31 AM)
To summarize, can I say all banks will now offer the exact same interest rate for those mentioned individual loans?

So I go Maybank, Public Bank, HSBC, RHB etc for house loan all will offer the same interest rate?
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No it's not. It will be Standard Base Rate (which is OPR in a nutshell) + spread (different for each bank, this is how much they are earning from you)
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post Aug 12 2021, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(bsa12 @ Aug 12 2021, 06:46 AM)
Banks always like that: they don't loans when market or economy is bad.
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They even doesnt give much dividends (some even ask for share as dividends) even they earn alot , reason = preserve cash.

KNN if they keep all the cash how to stimulate the market.
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post Aug 12 2021, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Aug 12 2021, 10:28 AM)
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Before this the Base Rate for every bank is different. No one knows how they calculate their Base Rate.

Previous:

Base Rate (OPR+ own bank's rate) + Spread = Interest Rate charged

So we can have Sotong bank charging BR 2.5% + 0.75% = 3.25% to customer A
And we can also have Sotong bank charging 2.5% + 0.5% = 3.0% because he has better risk

Maybank maybe will charge BR 2.1% + 0.9% = 3.0%

Current:

Standard Base Rate = OPR. Every bank will be the same. No more separate Base Rate for each bank. So for customers they will only need to compare the spread for different banks.

Sotong bank: 1.75% OPR + 1.25% spread
Maybank: 1.75% OPR + 1.3% spread


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QUOTE(victorian @ Aug 12 2021, 10:43 AM)
Before this the Base Rate for every bank is different. No one knows how they calculate their Base Rate.

Previous:

Base Rate (OPR+ own bank's rate) + Spread = Interest Rate charged

So we can have Sotong bank charging BR 2.5% + 0.75% = 3.25% to customer A
And we can also have Sotong bank charging 2.5% + 0.5% = 3.0% because he has better risk

Maybank maybe will charge BR 2.1% + 0.9% = 3.0%

Current:

Standard Base Rate = OPR. Every bank will be the same. No more separate Base Rate for each bank. So for customers they will only need to compare the spread for different banks.

Sotong bank: 1.75% OPR + 1.25% spread
Maybank: 1.75% OPR + 1.3% spread
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post Aug 12 2021, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Aug 12 2021, 10:43 AM)
Before this the Base Rate for every bank is different. No one knows how they calculate their Base Rate.

Previous:

Base Rate (OPR+ own bank's rate) + Spread = Interest Rate charged

So we can have Sotong bank charging BR 2.5% + 0.75% = 3.25% to customer A
And we can also have Sotong bank charging 2.5% + 0.5% = 3.0% because he has better risk

Maybank maybe will charge BR 2.1% + 0.9% = 3.0%

Current:

Standard Base Rate = OPR. Every bank will be the same. No more separate Base Rate for each bank. So for customers they will only need to compare the spread for different banks.

Sotong bank: 1.75% OPR + 1.25% spread
Maybank: 1.75% OPR + 1.3% spread
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This!

As such there will be better transparency across the banking sector.

Bad news for banks as pricing will be more transparent.

Good news for customers as you will be able to easily compare interest rates across all banks.

No need to figure out the exact base rate for each bank anymore, all bank will have the same base rate after this.

Only the spread will be different. Good job bnm

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post Aug 12 2021, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(bill11 @ Aug 12 2021, 10:42 AM)
They even doesnt give much dividends (some even ask for share as dividends) even they earn alot , reason = preserve cash.

KNN if they keep all the cash how to stimulate the market.
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