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dongdong86
post Nov 20 2008, 01:59 AM

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I think EVO and Artemis are the best food ever.
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post Nov 21 2008, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(nicholaskong @ Nov 20 2008, 04:09 PM)
Artemis not for my golden..he poo stink as hell n watery..i thought its good food also when i saw the ingredients.n its quite expensive.i think is 1.5kg for rm45 if not mistaken
it jus doesn't suit my golden..now im on blackwood 2000..hope can get good result..i wan her to haf firm stool n miminum smell laugh.gif
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For my dog it is way much better than EVO and Orijen after changing to Artemis Maximal. stools are harder and not so smelly, can even compare with BARF.
Dog Food Analysis
for some information, Blackwood2000 is a 2 star out of 6 star food.
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The first ingredient in the food is an unspecified meat product in meal form. We prefer not to see the use of ingredients for which source cannot be identified, and note that low cost ingredients like this are usually very low quality.


The main grains in the food are rice and corn. Corn is a grain that is difficult to digest and is commonly the cause of allergy problems. It is a concern to see chicken fat is the fourth ingredient. Research at Purdue University has identified fat in the top four ingredients of a dry food as a factor increasing the risk of bloat in large breed dogs (smaller breeds are untested).


Potato product is low quality filler. It is produced from peelings, cuttings and culls from human food production. Menhaden fish is a further meat product, but in too low quantity to add significantly to the meat content of the food. We note that the manufacturer does not claim to use Ethoxyquin-free ingredients (Ethoxyquin is a chemical preservative commonly added to fish meal ingredients, and which is believed to be carcinogenic).


Beet pulp is controversial filler which appears to be used in large quantities in this food. It is a by-product, being dried residue from sugar beets which has been cleaned and extracted in the process of manufacturing sugar. It is a controversial ingredient in dog food, claimed by some manufacturers to be a good source of fibre, and derided by others as an ingredient added to slow down the transition of rancid animal fats and causing stress to kidney and liver in the process. We note that beet pulp is an ingredient that commonly causes problems for dogs, including allergies and ear infections, and prefer not to see it used in dog food. There are less controversial products around if additional fibre is required.


We appreciate the use of whole eggs in the food.


please read carefully about the analysis. Artemis is at least 5 star for normal range and 6 star for Maximal.

Maybe you can try out Orijen, Evo and Natural Balance Organic. smile.gif



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post Nov 21 2008, 02:16 PM

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yes i agree that it is just a guide. but for us without any knowledge to judge kibble, it serves a good material. another more professional one is Whole Dog Journal. It is better, but it dont rate. actually for me both are biased in some ways.

Science Plan is brought in by vet, sure they will recommend. actually it is a very bad food, as bad as Pexxxx and Alxx i can say, but selling at 5 star price which i cant accept. Eukanuba i have no comment about the food, but the cruel animal test case scare me away from it. PETA actually hold campaign to boycott IAMS, brother of Eukanuba.

Let be realistic, learn something and analyse ourself. sometime depends on some reliable sources also. For me Artemis, EVO, Orijen, Natura Balance, Addiction, Canidae, Evanger and Regal give the quality with its price. Others maybe too "marketing", actually lot of money u pay is to watch their advertisement, no point.

Lastly, u may give a try on BARF, raw food, i m sure u wont regret. stool no smell, fur shiney. let me look for more information, i will post in up when i m free. smile.gif
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post Nov 22 2008, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Nov 21 2008, 07:17 PM)
Ya.. i giving my girl fully BARF.. she doing very well...
Poo no smell and hard de.!!

1 thg very trouble is the freshness only!!

1 more important thg is with feeding BARF can cure/avoid alot of long term sickness too..!
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glad to hear a lot of ppl feeding BARF now rclxms.gif

btw where do you buy from?
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post Nov 23 2008, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Nov 22 2008, 02:57 PM)
I do not mean for anythg dear...
Just a share only.. i do know alot of people canot accept barf.. I'm fine/agree/respect with their point of view. I didnt mean wan to change their mind to barf..  I just want to share out wat my experience and the result after i dare to try on barf. I tot here the place. I'm oso not against on kibble which i do fully feed barf, kibble still 1 of my girl main course some time. I do like to feeding kibble and i do keep searching for a good quality kibble to feed too. As i admit, ya feeding barf reli take risk.. however not to talk much bout it anymore since just for a share, created so many unhappy sound sad.gif
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i m happy to hear you are feeding BARF, feel like a lost penguin in zoo met another lost penguin from one family biggrin.gif
QUOTE(Doraemon11 @ Nov 22 2008, 01:25 AM)
As i know.. not even a single vet recommend on barf, if more go for barf, vet will rugi to earn side income which high commision provide by the supplier. U may do more research on barf... mr google do help ur doubt. However all the pro-groomer i met encourage on barf. Included ying @ yang... tongue.gif
I do alot alot research before i start BARF.. not a simply try! Only thing barf will harm ur dog is on the freshness. If it's not handle with a good condition way.. reli coz harmful!!!
Have a good search!

dongdong86,
I get if from epicure, tmn melawati.
Smtime i try to make it by myself.
How bout u?
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The petshop is an experienced one. but last time i saw complete bone and some plastic in BARF, so i change to Tails Unlimited in Sungai Long already. so far so good, BARF is in red color, lot of supplement in the BARF also make it worth the price to me smile.gif

keep sharing mate, or shall we discuss in specific thread?
QUOTE(Pennywise @ Nov 22 2008, 08:25 PM)
Today I bought Pinnacle and Artemis. Anyone tried these brands? How did you and your dog find it?
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Artemis is so delicious my dog love it. and the stool smell reduce a lot!


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post Nov 28 2008, 04:21 AM

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My dog change from Orijen to Artemis now. for my dog Artemis is way better than Orijen. Especially after the Orijen recall issue, i lose confidence of Orijen.
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post Nov 30 2008, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(chastise @ Nov 29 2008, 11:37 PM)
i'm currently feeding on artemis. my lucas loves it..
i only managed to find 1.8kg...do they have bigger pack?
anyway, how much does it usually cost? where else can i get it around kl?
currently have to travel all the way to sg long to get it..
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they have 6.8kg if not mistaken. 1.8kg might look expensive per kg, but if for 13kg, it is cheaper than EVO and Orijen.
QUOTE(babymiki @ Nov 29 2008, 11:57 PM)
Artemis?
what flavor they have?
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mostly are chicken. normal series like small breed puppy adult, medium large puppy adult are chicken turkey and salmon. The best products from them Maximal Dog is only chicken with small amount of potatoes.



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post Nov 30 2008, 01:32 AM

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i think should be other ingredients cause allergy
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post Nov 30 2008, 01:36 AM

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maybe you should try BARF. most accurate way to test.
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post Dec 1 2008, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(nicholaskong @ Nov 30 2008, 01:39 AM)
wher got sell artemis Maximal big pack??dint see at sea park..oni small pack..n also no Maximal Dog
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QUOTE(chastise @ Nov 30 2008, 10:44 PM)
really? do you know anywhere selling the bigger pack? cos ive only seen 1.8kg...
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Sungai Long got, i also provide door to door service sending food. if interested please pm me smile.gif
if you want address and you come yourself also can smile.gif



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post Dec 2 2008, 01:16 AM

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yes, untill 15 or 13 kg i think.
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post Dec 2 2008, 03:02 PM

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http://www.tails-unlimited.com/
this pet shop. address can be found in the url.
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post Dec 2 2008, 11:05 PM

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6.8kg. if for small breed better go for 1.8kg
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post Dec 3 2008, 03:38 AM

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i dont know about pet epicure, so i cant do comparison. but TU rescue cats and dogs, they have 170 cats and 30 dogs all are strays and abandoned. they only sell selected product which are in high quality. but no matter how good the kibbles are, BARF is still the best one. so they produce themselves. most of the cats were taking Orijen, but since Australlia recall issue and 2 cats die and 1 cat no hope to cure, they stopped Orijen and give Artemis. So far stool smell and shape are better, they like Artemis also. Their dogs like Artemis also. For me, maybe Artemis "extrinsic" ingredients are not as good as Orijen, but stool proves that it is easier to digest, so i think is a matter of processings rather than ingredients. That's why Artemis is more expensive than Orijen, but i think worth it.

But no matter how good is Artemis, it is certainly not as good as BARF in the end. BARF is ways too better than any kibbles, or dehydrated meat like Addiction. It is not expensive if compared with can food and for long term health. If you treat your dogs like your son or you dont like stool smell, do try BARF you wont regret.

Artemis 6.8kg are puppy RM138 adult RM132 Maximal RM148 before 15% discount. so you just minus 15% then is promotional price.

I like Natural Balance Organic, but Sg Long here dont have. other cheaper Natural Balance is same with Regal i think, so sometime i take Regal when i dont have money...haha


Added on December 5, 2008, 2:49 amNews, Sigma 7 is launched in Malaysia. I have got some samples to test. So far stool no problems.

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post Dec 29 2008, 02:56 AM

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Worms? MOST brands got worms! some dont have, but i am sure you can find interesting things in the packaging, no matter how branded it is!

Recently we found Artemis got a lot of worm. Last time Orijen got fish bone. Sigma 7 also worms......endless one!

Eukanuba ah? STOP it lah! sorry i am mean too, but see how IAMS do testing....erm..... Eukanuba and IAMS same mother company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32bQPdZSMGQ

happy with what you are feeding? you dont have to blame yourself, but they COVER all this to public. Now i tell you.
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post Dec 29 2008, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Dec 29 2008, 04:15 PM)
So far I have never encounter any kibbles with worm.

When you buy check the packaging if got holes or not. Sometimes, it already got worms inside before you buy it and you don't realize. Some petshop dun keep clean enough. Or ter-poke a hole when they arranging the packing without realizing it. Then humidity attracts worm.

Then after you buy home the kibbles, keep it at dry place. Use multiple container if possible, so the remaining can be keep fresh. Do not buy big pack, make sure your dog can finish all of them around 2 months. Too long not fresh, and also not healthy already.
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from my experience, most worm come with the packaging. it is mostly supplier or manufacturer's fault. sometime they repack their food, then problems come.

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post Dec 30 2008, 02:48 AM

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yes selling both, Acana new formula range from RM50-RM60 for 2.5kg, artemis 6.8kg medium large breed puppy is RM117.30 and 15kg for RM195.50, both artemis puppy price are after discounts.
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post Feb 16 2009, 01:10 PM

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Orijen is one of the best dog food. Even i found all kibbles are not satisfactory though.

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