Pro-groomer LOL... Actually it will be more convincing if you say nutritionist. Read a lot of the popular Dr. that recommend BARF worldwide, that strongly recommend BARF, and at the same time a lot others Dr. that do not agree BARF-ing. Not to forget the Dr. that strongly suggest kibbles haha...



This post has been edited by iluv2zzz: Nov 22 2008, 01:57 AM

no lah doraemon, every person has their own believe. Perhaps you can start a BARF thread can educate people more on nutrition, not bad too

Wahaha.. don't bother her. She 3 minutes hot one Wanted to find one nice yorkie for her, but I scare she suka 3 minutes only, then campak to me. Yup she is my mother

BARF, stands for Biological Appropriate Raw Food or more popular as Bones And Raw Food, if you are only feeding raw meat but no bone, that is actually out of the purpose of feeding BARF. If you are into BARF, please make sure what you are doing is correct, providing balance meal & nutrition, with appropriate supplement. I am not into BARF but I read a lot already, though I am no expert in BARF, I still know what I read.

If you are feeding raw meat once in a while, for me that is more like a treat to the dogs

This post has been edited by iluv2zzz: Nov 22 2008, 05:24 PM

Yup, I wrote both "names" of BARF up there mah...

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Added on November 22, 2008, 10:45 pmupdate: Just got a pack of Innova, it smells so nice! Even my girl that is on homecook meal also try to steal a few.

This post has been edited by iluv2zzz: Nov 22 2008, 10:45 PM

yap, real bone, RAW.. not cooked bone. NO cooked bone for dog.

@annie, those who are feeding BARF claim feeding those won't make smelly mouth. Me myself don't know cause I not feeding it.

Earlier who said cannot find Acana in Seapark? My bf just went there few days back and he say got a lot there...

shouldn't be gua? He went there few days ago, about the same time the person looking in seapark. Haha.. dunno leh..

Guys, yang just start a BARF topic here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/856663

So can share barf info there.

lol.. I smell b4, california natural smells kinda bland..

annie ah, if she ok on salmon that keep it.

If you want to change her diet, you really need to think a lot.. because you are not the only one that feeding and preparing her meal.

If pure meat, no bone, then the dog will suffer from calcium deficiency, because meat is high in Phosphorus. The ideal ratio for Calcium : Phosphorus is 1.2-2.0 : 1.0

Most meat has 8X phosphorus to calcium, that is why bone is essential in BARF. But then meat (muscle meat) does not contain enough vitamins n nutrients, so you need to top up with offal, vegetables, and other supplements. Never been to Pet Epicure, don't know about their pre pack of BARF is complete balance or not XD

But the trick is to rotate the ingredient so the dogs will get variety of nutrients.

LOL I guess this one relates to BARF topic more.

So far I have never encounter any kibbles with worm.

When you buy check the packaging if got holes or not. Sometimes, it already got worms inside before you buy it and you don't realize. Some petshop dun keep clean enough. Or ter-poke a hole when they arranging the packing without realizing it. Then humidity attracts worm.

Then after you buy home the kibbles, keep it at dry place. Use multiple container if possible, so the remaining can be keep fresh. Do not buy big pack, make sure your dog can finish all of them around 2 months. Too long not fresh, and also not healthy already.

If all searches for puppy non-chicken, try searching for all-life-stages food.
Natural Balance, Canidae, Evangers and a few others.

Even some of Blackwood are all life stage like Catfish n potato.

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Added on January 2, 2009, 12:54 pmand hoh, nylon bone mana can eat? Nylon bone is those plastic bone!

Those chew-bone, rawhide can eat, but some dog may not be able to digest it. My Sushi after eat those rawhide bone, she will poo something transparent sticky thing. LOL very yucky..

This post has been edited by iluv2zzz: Jan 2 2009, 12:54 PM

It may cause blockage, and that is the thing you will never want to happen to your dog. Not only he will weak, throw out everything he eat, and you need to send him for xray + operation if its too big to come out as poo poo

Are we talking the same bone?

This is nylon bone... just like plastic, chewable not edible:


this is rawhide bone, some are edible:

Natural Balance big pack should can get from Seapark Pet Supplies, in SS2.

Guys, there is a BARF thread maybe you all can proceed there, and it will benefit whoever interested in raw feeding.

I also personally thinks that high protein food is not for every dog. Just feed those in between 20+% protein is good enough for small breed. I tried Orijen on my dog, doesn't works great. Switching back to lower protein food. Currently on Innova.

This post has been edited by iluv2zzz: Jan 20 2009, 06:49 PM

Mind telling me the recent Canidae price, both the ALS and grainless?

pengsan........ is it the new packaging yet?

wahahaha... someone said earlier, by nature, claimed they used organic chicken, the small pack shoot up around rm80-90 LOL...

This post has been edited by iluv2zzz: Jan 21 2009, 01:51 PM

alamak.............. better find other brand then