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TSzach69
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Jul 25 2021, 04:01 PM, updated 5y ago
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What is the monthly income for fresh doctors?
What about monthly income those with experience surgeons/ specialists?
What about monthly income those with clinics?
Which doctor earns the most?
Just doing survey and finding out the actual pay
Thank you
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mini orchard
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Jul 25 2021, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(zach69 @ Jul 25 2021, 04:01 PM) What is the monthly income for fresh doctors? What about monthly income those with experience surgeons/ specialists? What about monthly income those with clinics? Which doctor earns the most? Just doing survey and finding out the actual pay Thank you Is difficult to pinpoint which specialist discipline earn the most but among the top 5, I would say .... Neuro, Gynae, Cardio, Ortho and Rheuma. And if zoom into each discipline, it will depends on the 'popularity' of the specialist. For eg, a Neuro in one hospital can earn 2 to 3 mil a year while the same specialist field in another hospital only earn above 1 mil. Similar to GP clinics. Some, a patient can see the dr immediately upon registration while another, will have to wait hours. Why is one clinic always busier than the one few doors away ? That will roughly tell which GP earns more. This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 25 2021, 11:33 PM
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TSzach69
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Jul 27 2021, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 25 2021, 11:22 PM) Is difficult to pinpoint which specialist discipline earn the most but among the top 5, I would say .... Neuro, Gynae, Cardio, Ortho and Rheuma. And if zoom into each discipline, it will depends on the 'popularity' of the specialist. For eg, a Neuro in one hospital can earn 2 to 3 mil a year while the same specialist field in another hospital only earn above 1 mil. Similar to GP clinics. Some, a patient can see the dr immediately upon registration while another, will have to wait hours. Why is one clinic always busier than the one few doors away ? That will roughly tell which GP earns more. Well I don't understand why medical fees don't drop , with more supply then the fees should drop and medical expenses should be affordable for everyone regardless with or without insurance
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2021, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(zach69 @ Jul 27 2021, 12:00 PM) Well I don't understand why medical fees don't drop , with more supply then the fees should drop and medical expenses should be affordable for everyone regardless with or without insurance Consultation is 'cheap' but medical procedures are expensive. There are many general medical doctors but specialists are limited in ratio to populations. Rightfully, all govt hospitals should issue the bill according to current charges so that patient is aware of the actual cost and then deduct the amount as discount before paying the subsidised rate.
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Redshelf411
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Jul 27 2021, 09:39 PM
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Isn't it standard rm2300 to rm2800. Has been this kind of salary range since the 2010s.
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tpleong
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Jul 28 2021, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Jul 27 2021, 09:39 PM) Isn't it standard rm2300 to rm2800. Has been this kind of salary range since the 2010s. You are outdated . its around RM5k for fresh houseman
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Redshelf411
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Jul 28 2021, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(tpleong @ Jul 28 2021, 07:42 AM) You are outdated . its around RM5k for fresh houseman *Stares in confusion*
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TSzach69
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Jul 29 2021, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2021, 12:32 PM) Consultation is 'cheap' but medical procedures are expensive. There are many general medical doctors but specialists are limited in ratio to populations. Rightfully, all govt hospitals should issue the bill according to current charges so that patient is aware of the actual cost and then deduct the amount as discount before paying the subsidised rate. Excuses, there will always be a ratio difference, that's the way the human population why must charge expensive , where there is a will there is a way QUOTE(zach69 @ Jul 29 2021, 02:04 AM) Excuses, there will always be a ratio difference, that's the way the human population why must charge expensive , where there is a will there is a way . Just say capitalism and end this conversation
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mini orchard
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Jul 29 2021, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE(zach69 @ Jul 29 2021, 02:05 AM) . Just say capitalism and end this conversation You are ok ? This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 29 2021, 06:14 AM
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tiptop007
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Jul 30 2021, 01:44 AM
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be prepared to go in for the long haul and it will pay off. anything other than specialist is a waste of time and potential. stop looking at fresh grad pay, look at the entire career income potential.
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SUSpfizer
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Aug 1 2021, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(tpleong @ Jul 28 2021, 07:42 AM) You are outdated . its around RM5k for fresh houseman That is for MO. HO i think around 3 plus.
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tpleong
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Aug 3 2021, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(pfizer @ Aug 1 2021, 11:32 PM) That is for MO. HO i think around 3 plus. Yes, I got it wrong . Damn , how come so low ! Attached thumbnail(s)
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SUSpfizer
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Aug 3 2021, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(tpleong @ Aug 3 2021, 08:36 AM) Yes, I got it wrong . Damn , how come so low ! Yes very low but yet they die die want to work as permanent.
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noobinvestor P
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Aug 3 2021, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(pfizer @ Aug 3 2021, 09:05 AM) Yes very low but yet they die die want to work as permanent. plus their working hours are so crazy, their pay per hour is considered quite low
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soules83
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Aug 3 2021, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(pfizer @ Aug 3 2021, 09:05 AM) Yes very low but yet they die die want to work as permanent. contract doctors don't gain access to free master or PHD studies. Its not cheap to further studies. Their existing degree already cost a house! QUOTE(tpleong @ Jul 28 2021, 07:42 AM) You are outdated . its around RM5k for fresh houseman You are outdated! RM5k for MO! QUOTE(noobinvestor @ Aug 3 2021, 10:56 AM) plus their working hours are so crazy, their pay per hour is considered quite low if struck at GP, they also cannot reply their student loan its a price of house unit!
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Oklahoma
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Aug 3 2021, 12:50 PM
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Government is giving contract MO ability to specialise by studying masters.
Basic salary for contract staff around RM3500, but with on call allowances easily net RM4500 for contract MOs and HOs.
This post has been edited by Oklahoma: Aug 3 2021, 12:50 PM
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soules83
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Aug 3 2021, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(Oklahoma @ Aug 3 2021, 12:50 PM) Government is giving contract MO ability to specialise by studying masters. Basic salary for contract staff around RM3500, but with on call allowances easily net RM4500 for contract MOs and HOs. contract MO funded for master + on call allowances for HO? That was new.
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tpleong
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Jan 19 2022, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(soules83 @ Aug 3 2021, 12:05 PM) contract doctors don't gain access to free master or PHD studies. Its not cheap to further studies. Their existing degree already cost a house! You are outdated! RM5k for MO! if struck at GP, they also cannot reply their student loan its a price of house unit! For everyone knowledge , New Houseman do get around RM5k per month now all in, Confirmed This post has been edited by tpleong: Jan 19 2022, 08:20 AM
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selinix
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Jan 19 2022, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(tpleong @ Aug 3 2021, 08:36 AM) Yes, I got it wrong . Damn , how come so low ! That is just showing the basic, it haven include the rest of the allowances
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nihility
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Jan 20 2022, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2021, 12:32 PM) Consultation is 'cheap' but medical procedures are expensive. There are many general medical doctors but specialists are limited in ratio to populations. Rightfully, all govt hospitals should issue the bill according to current charges so that patient is aware of the actual cost and then deduct the amount as discount before paying the subsidised rate. KKM are doing that quite sometimes already, the receipt got stated actual cost & the subsidized cost by Government. You hardly use KKM facilities.
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kangaroonext20km
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Feb 4 2022, 03:21 AM
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Starting salary in Gomen : 4-5k ( depend if u count epf, and location etc since Gomen gives u more bonus depending if ur hospital is considered what tier city ( back then I think got three tiers, top tier rm 250 second 150 third kampung 0 ).
They throw u to Sabah but u from KL also got extra monies.
Starting go private work under ppl in GP is rm 35/hour. So work 6 day 9 hour a day is 7-8k ringgit a month.
U open own normal gp clinic, see 20-30 patient a day, probably will get 15-20k salary. If u lejen many patient can get 40-100 pt then maybe 40-50k.
Wan become rich, but not so stress, go take diploma in aesthetics. Do Botox, face lasers, minor face lifts surgeries etc ( donid study hard die die become specialist ). If your family v rich, go this path. Open clinic at decent location, advertise well and u can probably earn 100+k a month.
Wan earn more and really like studying do specialty. As others said, earn 1 plus million depending on field.
However remember become specialist and to become femes enuf to earn millions, u prolly need to study a lot and spend a few million yourself and start earning big bucks at 40.
Eg. U can get good paying patients/hospital to hire u if they c ur credentials good. UK specialisation will cost you 1-2 million just on tuition and living fees alone.
Yes u will be earning millions a year, but unless your father mother are already millionaires, I would not suggest this route. You can easily see Reddit etc and see many burned out doctors.
Easiest route at the moment is as I say, work in Gomen, go private clinic locum a bit, get diploma in aesthetics and open clinic specialising in doing Botox, co2 fractional laser for old aunties with a lot of money and rich kids from rich parents.
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