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 pretty bad job market, Is Linked any better ?

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post Jul 22 2021, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(lolabunny123 @ Jul 21 2021, 10:00 PM)
Depends on which industry you're in I guess. For me in credit/risk management is still OK. Several HH and recruiters reached out to me via LinkedIn and asked if I'm planning to make a move. Even got a few interviews lined up in the coming week.
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Junior or senior position? Many years back for junior position got offer lowball salary 2k expect work 14 hours 6 day week I say fark off.
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post Jul 22 2021, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 22 2021, 11:10 AM)
Disagree. LinkedIn have too many inactive job and mostly you are wasting time applying to a job which recruiter won't response to you, while jobstreet posted job are likely to land a response from recruiter. For LinkedIn, I would suggest you to response to recruiter invitation rather than applying on their posted job.
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A fair bit of my friends been headhunted by Linkedin, i notice those who get hired from linkedin is mostly headhunted and highly qualified.

One of my friend just change job, then another big bank called him though he decline initially cz he just masuk new job they still persuaded him to consider in the end he agreed to go for their interviews and the offer him .

If your reputation is good linkedin can be your friend. Jobstreet a lot of good potential freshie dun get a chance cz the HR may have their bias so thats the issue.
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post Jul 22 2021, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jul 22 2021, 06:07 PM)
Recruiters and HR are human too, if part of their job is done for them then it makes their life easier and your chances of getting the job better.

How do you make their lives easier?
1. get referred by someone the recruiters already know and trust. Easier said than done of course but this basically means your referrer is doing the first round filtering for the recruiter.

2. build a good brand. LinkedIn is probably one of the better options out there, build a good profile, write posts, comment intelligently. When the recruiter does a search on your profile they can see what you've done in addition to your profile/CV so they don't have to do more work.

3. customize your CV to the job descriptions. Instead of letting the recruiter do the work to link what you did to the job requirements themselves, do that work for them in your customized CV and/or cover letter.

I've done all of the above and in reality looking for a job itself can be a full time job. Even if you're happy in your job you shouldn't stop networking (to enhance #1) and contributing on LinkedIn.

All the best.
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Problem is some HR go along the racial lines and favoritism this is where ive seen HR push candidates who are ok on paper but concurrently reject some people who have potential as they are not of the preferred ethnicity, no specific ethnic group to blame as this trend is observed at some MnC or financial institutions as well. I had a friend who was a recruiter and told a certain Singaporean bank only wanted a specific ethnic group to be considered for the role which doesnt require any other language besides English and Bahasa so these cases I understand it isnt HR fault but the problem is when HR themselves have this bias the company loses a candidate who can contribute accordingly and the job seeker loses the opportunity to secure employment on their merit as this would give them a platform to develop. As much as US has a lot of flaws when it comes to employment i believe the west allows more diversity and appreciates talent more then Asian countries.
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post Jul 23 2021, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jul 23 2021, 02:45 PM)
This is so true...discrimination is embedded in the private sector. I’ve worked in the US before and you’re right that they appreciate talent and diversity far more than Asian countries, particularly Malaysia. I’ve even been rejected because of my ethnicity and not of my capabilities...how did I know this? An acquaintance of mine reached out to the HR rep and was told that the line manager prefers working with a particular ethnicity.

It’s mind boggling that people just seem to accept this...worse is when some people say it’s okay because the civil service discriminates as well. With this type of thinking, no wonder Malaysia is going down the drain.
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Exactly the in civil service its very obvious in terms of the selection criteria and who are the minorities , likewise in the private sector mandarin speaking is codeword for their preference towards a certain race group. The problem here is instead of evaluating ones character , values and capability which is why the intelligent Malaysians regardless race prefer going to white man country as there is more merit based opportunities then Malaysia. In Malaysia unless you are one of the 2 majority races if you from the minority chances of you landing a good employment is very tough without good networking skills.
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post Jul 23 2021, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(lolabunny123 @ Jul 23 2021, 07:27 AM)
3-4 years of experience..dunno consider junior or senior. But what you said is true. The most insulting offer I got from a headhunter was a 5% increment from my current remuneration…
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Thats the thing le some of the F.I''s offer shyte salary unreasonable working hours and as there a lot of aspiring employees, not everyone will get be promoted or recognized. On top of the crazy work hours you also need to play along your bosses tune etc. With that kind of basic and working hours is borderline slavery la. I think burger Ramli seller can make 3k-5k a month despite committing lesser hours and live a better quality life and less stress then these fresh grads.

A freshie to put through an with that kind of working hours and 2k salary is nothing short of exploitation. If say they are an average employee at best after 10 year experience they maybe earn 4k which is absolutely shyte salary.
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post Jul 23 2021, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Jul 23 2021, 09:07 PM)
This is the thing with Malaysia job market. RM2000+ for fresh grad salary is not viable anymore as we are not stuck in the 90s, 2000s. Most companies don't even want to give rm2500... But then someone has mentioned about supply and demand before. If you're field is oversaturated your salary will be lower. At one point I was paid less than rm2000 after having 3-4yrs combined experience in the industry.

If you protest, you kena fired lah. Would you rather have a job that pays low or have no job and be paid nothing at all?
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Honestly i rather im not in that position to decide but one path can consider is to work at Family Mart for 1.5k with much less stress while pursuing or strategizing other ways to make money. I was earning 2k as fresh grad but back then i didnt care as i genuinely wanted career progress. Thinking back i might have done things slightly differently then i guess.
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post Jul 23 2021, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Jul 23 2021, 10:26 PM)
Same lol.. If you are seeking career progress, then Malaysia is less likely to offer you that as the pathways here are pretty limited. BUT it's a good stepping stone and base to grow the basics.
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Yeah i think Malaysia good employers and job opportunities are not as abundant, i feel gov should promote more entrepreneurship in different industries to boost our income levels .
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post Jul 25 2021, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(TomYummy @ Jul 25 2021, 04:38 PM)
Lot of low quality recruiters, most are from no-name Indian staffing companies and agencies.

And just generally it is becoming Facebook 2.0, look at the quality of the content. Most people just jerk and brag around. Yesterday when i opened the app, i saw a post of a girl cooking at home and bragging about her food how she could use the lessons she learnt at her workplace and implement it in her every day life, tagging her boss how grateful she is for working for the company. drool.gif  doh.gif
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Depending what feel la brother, my friend got to job offer more then 15k monthly in 2 months from linkedin but yes slowly got idiots making linked in look like another FB.

Indian staffing from Malaysia or India? I think Malaysian Indian recruiters are ok and try to help you as much as possible. If Indian from mainland then sorry le, my ex was offered a job in an semiconductor MNC in Penang, with really shit salary. She politely declined and the farker told he will black list her. I fark him upside down in and out until the Malaysian office for this recruitment company called me to apologize and pushed him to send an apology to my ex.


 

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