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 pretty bad job market, Is Linked any better ?

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post Jul 22 2021, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Jul 22 2021, 11:10 AM)
Disagree. LinkedIn have too many inactive job and mostly you are wasting time applying to a job which recruiter won't response to you, while jobstreet posted job are likely to land a response from recruiter. For LinkedIn, I would suggest you to response to recruiter invitation rather than applying on their posted job.
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I agree to an extent. LinkedIn MY seems to be very quiet when it comes to self-submit job applications. You submit a job application on LinkedIn Malaysia you get 0 replies and views.
Whereas when I was abroad in England, recruiters are more active and responsive. They willget you for an interview, put on KIV, or tell you no outright. Sometimes they may even call me up and give constructive criticisms on what to do on my application. I don't any of these on Malaysia LinkedIn.
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post Jul 23 2021, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Jul 23 2021, 04:41 PM)
Thats the thing le some of the F.I''s offer shyte salary unreasonable working hours and as there a lot of aspiring employees, not everyone will get be promoted or recognized. On top of the crazy work hours you also need to play along your bosses tune etc.  With that kind of basic and working hours is borderline slavery la. I think burger Ramli seller can make 3k-5k a month despite committing lesser hours and live a better quality life and less stress then these fresh grads.

A freshie to put through an with that kind of working hours and 2k salary is nothing short of exploitation. If say they are an average employee at best after 10 year experience they maybe earn 4k which is absolutely shyte salary.
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This is the thing with Malaysia job market. RM2000+ for fresh grad salary is not viable anymore as we are not stuck in the 90s, 2000s. Most companies don't even want to give rm2500... But then someone has mentioned about supply and demand before. If you're field is oversaturated your salary will be lower. At one point I was paid less than rm2000 after having 3-4yrs combined experience in the industry.

If you protest, you kena fired lah. Would you rather have a job that pays low or have no job and be paid nothing at all?
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post Jul 23 2021, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Jul 23 2021, 09:16 PM)
Honestly i rather im not in that position to decide but one path can consider is to work at Family Mart for 1.5k with much less stress while pursuing or strategizing other ways to make money. I was earning 2k as fresh grad but back then i didnt care as i genuinely wanted career progress. Thinking back i might have done things slightly differently then i guess.
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Same lol.. If you are seeking career progress, then Malaysia is less likely to offer you that as the pathways here are pretty limited. BUT it's a good stepping stone and base to grow the basics.
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post Jul 24 2021, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Jul 23 2021, 10:32 PM)
Yeah i think Malaysia good employers and job opportunities are not as abundant, i feel gov should promote more entrepreneurship in different industries to boost our income levels .
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Jobs in Malaysia was scarce when I graduated in 2015 and I can feel it back then. Now it's even worst and boleh rasa. Even if I got offered a job, the salary also low... Since I am based in Sarawak a lot of companies offered rm2000 at the most. I once asked for rm2300 and I got told "that's a very expensive salary.. sorry we can only offer 2k, take it or leave it".

QUOTE(pfizer @ Jul 23 2021, 10:34 PM)
Wtf. Is he serious? or he trying to make a joke?
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That's the reality of Malaysian job market now. You want a job that pays you low salary? Or would you rather not have money at all? Covid really screwed up Malaysia lol.
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post Jul 24 2021, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Jul 24 2021, 08:19 AM)
Did you try Sarawak Information Systems? How much they offer now?
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Sarawak Information Systems bukan ICT/IT solutions company kan? I don't do ICT/IT, not my background tho.
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post Jul 26 2021, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 25 2021, 11:42 PM)
Yes, many low ballers out there.
Some even trying to offer lower salary / position to replace their higher salaried stuff.
After they take in, they will sack/find trouble with their existing staff
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That's why the quality of work keeps dropping. I'm not saying we shouldn't hire fresh grads and train them but sometimes someone needs to gatekeep the quality of works.
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post Jul 26 2021, 04:05 AM

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QUOTE(TomYummy @ Jul 25 2021, 04:38 PM)
Lot of low quality recruiters, most are from no-name Indian staffing companies and agencies.

And just generally it is becoming Facebook 2.0, look at the quality of the content. Most people just jerk and brag around. Yesterday when i opened the app, i saw a post of a girl cooking at home and bragging about her food how she could use the lessons she learnt at her workplace and implement it in her every day life, tagging her boss how grateful she is for working for the company. drool.gif  doh.gif
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Really? My LinkedIn is still suggesting quality work from MNCs. However, everytime I apply in, I get ghosted. No replies at all. I will be lucky if they got back to me and said I wasn't shortlisted.
I agree with the Facebook part though. In the last 2 years I've looked into jobs posted on Facebook jobs, a lot are low quality jobs like labourer and lorry drivers that pay RM1200 no OT and benefits.
I applied into 1 company in Sarawak. Got the job and everything but it collapsed and went bankrupt due to financing problems. Unfortunate tbh and this role I had for less than 1 year.

QUOTE(malleus @ Jul 25 2021, 11:24 PM)
You wanna know something rather odd? There's also a hiring crunch too in Sarawak, at least for IT.

Back in 2018, we had a visit from ppl from SESCO, where we gave them a tour of how we're digitalising the energy sector over here. And according to them, the biggest hurdle that they have when it comes to having in house software engineers is that they simply cannot find ppl to hire at all.
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Sarawak companies don't really hire that well tbh. I've been back with my family here in EM/Bru since 2018 and tbh the jobs that are hiring are low quality jobs. You can see admin jobs advertising for as low as RM900 back then and that was before the minimum wage was rm1200.

But you are right about the hiring hurdle tbh. In my last company my ex boss hired 1 IT exec where the salary was rm1800. My ex boss was a bit of a psycho so he treated this IT exec like shit, asking him to do so much work but pay only rm1800. The IT guy got really pissed so he left after 4mths...last I heard he's went to Kuching and he's getting paid rm2500.

I think most companies in EM are generally not very well off. If you can get rm2000 gaji considered not bad already.

QUOTE(viole @ Jul 25 2021, 11:28 PM)
Then why were they not try to increase the salary range?

It is a basic supply vs demand case.
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No budget or limited budget. That's why can't pay better. Most IT ppl I know went to KL/WM to find job since the pay band is higher.

QUOTE(malleus @ Jul 25 2021, 11:33 PM)
this unfortunately is a question that I'm not able to answer. I also didn't get a chance to ask either as I only spent a short amount of time with them as I was busy with other stuff

but apart from the salary related stuff, I won't be surprised if potential candidates from the west will demand a pay premium too, similar to almost expat level pay for them to relocate to Sarawak. I know I would too, despite my home town being in Kuching originally.

as for local grads, the majority are looking to move out of Sarawak anyways, due to the limited opportunities for IT.
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Am planning to move back to KL/WM when permissible tbh. The job market here is too sluggish. Am in the media background btw used to work in an int'l MNC. Had to quit and come back to EM to help my family for a bit. Now it seems like it has stabilised by some I plan on going back... But the travel restrictions though. Still haven't had a clear cut understanding of travelling interstate if it weren't for work.
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post Jul 29 2021, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ Jul 26 2021, 10:45 AM)
Agreed, market is in downturn right now, some companies will not able to offer a good salary in this moment.
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You'd be lucky if you get hired. Am only saying this because Im currently based in Sarawak. Apply in to jobs in Swk, 99.9% ghosted. remaining 0.1% will tell you "application KIV/not looking to hire".

WM is a bit more "complicated"-ish. Applied in to a number of it for a position, I did get interviews from 80% of the application. BUT only catch: I had to be I WM, as they "cannot accept remote working" ironically.
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post Aug 6 2021, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(filage @ Aug 6 2021, 11:25 AM)
Any FnF work at Sains? How is it there?
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FnF? Is that freelance meaning?
I've applied into SAINS before 2mths back. No response lol.
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post Aug 6 2021, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Aug 6 2021, 02:17 PM)
Friends and Family.
Oh I see, applied on Jobstreet? Is it programming role?
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Oh lol no. I don't work in IT, but I still applied anyway to ask if they have any admin/media roles. Never got any replies. But then it's IT...its needed here in EM but the salaries paid to IT grads are low AF.

 

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