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revolnia
post Sep 8 2021, 12:52 PM

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hi sifu,

Below is the details:

1. Budget : MYR 3000 (plus minus)
2. Usage : Work (Database, Software Testing, Programming, light gaming)
3. Requirements (display size, battery life, weight etc) :
- Lenovo brand
- 14 inch
- AMD Ryzen 5
- RAM 16GB
- SSD 512GB
- Wifi 6 (optional)
- Bluetooth (must have)
- Finger print reader (optional)
- Not require touch screen
- Dedicated graphic card (not sure whether it is possible based on the budget. I would like to play PUBG and CS GO)
- Thin and slim (if possible)

Note:
- Currently I am using ThinkPad E14 i5 (office laptop) and this is my first time I am using it and I am loving it. The keyboard is so nice. I heard that IdeaPad keyboard also good and quite similar with ThinkPad series.
- Now I am looking at :
a. IdeaPad Series
b. ThinkPad E Series
c. ThinkPad L Series

- I tried using promo code IPRICE but it is not valid anymore. Please do advice whether above requirement possible? Or I need to low the spec or increase my budget.

Big thank you.

This post has been edited by revolnia: Sep 8 2021, 12:53 PM
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post Sep 8 2021, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 8 2021, 01:35 PM)
https://shopee.com.my/Acer-Nitro-5-AN515-57...4583.9379363193
though no MUX and not highest TGP, still better than 3050

i have a few options in mind but can u wait 1-3 months?
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Oh. Lenovo need to wait like 1-3 months? I saw their website mention 2 weeks or 5 weeks delivery. (Forgot).

But yeah sure sir.
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post Sep 9 2021, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 8 2021, 03:10 PM)
this ok?
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1. That spec looks great. But I prefer 14 inch. Btw why 14 inch is more expensive compared to 15inch eh? (I take a look at the price just now). Hmm I wish ThinkBook have black or dark color. Not a fan of white/grey color.

2. Btw, what about ThinkPad E14 series? Any recommendation? I browse thru this model ThinkPad E14 Gen 3.

3. Any model that have dedicated GC? I take a look at IdeaPad Slim 5i just now but it is Intel and got dedicated GC. This is more better in term of light gaming like CS Go and PUBG?

Sorry for the troublesome.

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post Sep 9 2021, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 9 2021, 10:38 AM)
The 14 inch ver is around rm100 more expensive. Mayb consider Thinkpad E series?

You want dGPU?
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Yeah. I do consider ThinkPad E series.

If possible dGPU. But it the budget too high, then no need
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post Sep 9 2021, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 9 2021, 12:57 PM)
if u need dGPU then mayb consider Ideapad 5 Pro 14

Can you help to build spec for ThinkPad E14 AMD and the one that u mentioned Ideapad 5 Pro 14?

I might narrow to these 2 .



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post Sep 10 2021, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 9 2021, 02:39 PM)
feel free to change the specs, note that price is with coupon
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wow nice price.

so you recommended these 3:

1. ThinkBook 15 G3 ACL (if want to change to 14 inch then need to top up MYR 100 more) - RM 2974.89
2. IdeaPad Slim 5 Pro 14 inch Gen 6 - MYR 3472.65
3. ThinkPad E14 Gen 3 - MYR 3482.65

Can I assume that ThinkBook spec is much much better than IdeaPad and ThinkPad? Because the price is more cheaper and does not have dGPU.

Question: For IdeaPad model, can it play CS GO and PUBG?


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post Sep 10 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Sep 10 2021, 11:41 AM)
Umm which part much better? They have similar specs. BTW the price has increased slightly for the thinkbook

Sure but depends on the settings
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Oh sorry. Yeah ThinkBook have similar specs. Ahh I have tough decision to made.

Big thanks sifu! rclxms.gif .. I need time to think
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post Nov 12 2021, 01:30 PM

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Hi Sifus,

Need laptop recommendation
1. Budget : 3k
2. Usage : Want to play Counter Strike GO (high priority), programming, database
3. Requirements : 14 inch only laptop and built in graphic card. Any laptop brand is okay except MSI and Acer (if possible).

Yeah, above spec quite funny. But I do really want to play Counter Strike GO 😅 . If budget 3k, is it playable in high/medium setting?

Big thanks
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post Nov 12 2021, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 12 2021, 07:44 PM)
Why Acer n MSI not good but they r at least 10% cheaper for the same spec? What about HP Omen?
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Bad experience. But HP omen is not 14 inch right?

QUOTE(MyProLife @ Nov 12 2021, 09:52 PM)
Maybe because of warranty / after sales service previously bad experience for him... both under highpoint HSN
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Yeap. Bad experience

QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 12 2021, 11:01 PM)
if u want 14 inch+dGPU, increase budget

unless fine with iGPU only
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Increase budget to how much? If 3.5k, is it possible?

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post Nov 13 2021, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 12 2021, 11:25 PM)
possible but non upgradeable 8GB RAM

how long u can wait for delivery?
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Ouch. Forgot to mention that I need 16GB ram. Maybe 1 month
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post Nov 21 2021, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Nov 13 2021, 02:02 PM)
If you are okay with integrated graphics, the most recent igpu like intel iris XE or Vega 8(ryzen u/h) can run csgo at medium settings at most for well over 60fps, or if you don't mind low settings, can reach 100+fps

However this also requires that laptop comes with fast dual channel memory. Since you require 16gb of fast dual channel memory (ddr4-3200 or lpddr4x 4266 is preferred for best igpu performance). So you need bump up to 3.5k+ still or wait for lenovo shipping

Edit: you can try this with some discount code (pm zm fong)
ThinkBook 14 Gen 3 AMD ryzen 7

Part Number:  21A20078MJ
Ship within 4 weeks (at least 1 months)

Or ThinkBook 14s Gen 2 (intel i5 11th)

Part Number:  20VA002SMJ
Same shipping 4 weeks
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ThinkBook 14 Gen 3 AMD ryzen 7 seems good but now it is out of stock.

What do u think about asus? Any recommendation? My budget might goes up to 4k - 4.5k (max)


QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 20 2021, 07:53 PM)
https://shopee.com.my/Lenovo-Legion-5-15ACH...429.11633311289
though a bit overpriced due to being retail model, no QHD panel but better perf due to max TGP+MUX

either spend 4.2k for 3050 or 5.2k for 3060

or make sacrifices like worse perf/thermal/build
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What is the laptop that can get 4.2k for 3050? I only saw gc 1650 for price of 4.2k+ for lenovo legion

What do u think about asus? Any recommendation? My budget might goes up to 4k - 4.5k (max)

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post Nov 23 2021, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 21 2021, 09:57 AM)
no decent model at this price range

Legion 5i with code
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I see. I will take a look during 12.12 sales (if any) for legion 5i or legion 5 (AMD).

Question: Actually, I was looking at 14 inch gaming laptop for budget RM4.2k but seems cannot find it except Asus ROG Strix and Asus TUF series. I already take a look at those 2 Asus model and the design is a bit off / bulky / keypad not nice.

The Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 seems nice but it is out of my budget:
a) https://rog.asus.com/my/laptops/rog-zephyru...rus-g14-series/ - GA401QH - GTX1650 4GB - RM 4899
b) https://rog.asus.com/my/laptops/rog-zephyru...rus-g14-series/ - GA401IH - GTX 1650 4GB - RM 4699

Legion 15 inch (AMD / Intel) is more cheaper compare to Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 price.

I already take a look also at HP Omen and HP Victus but it is also more than RM 4.5k budget. Do you have any recommendation of 14 inch laptop with GC of 1650 or 3050? Or the Legion 5 is the only option?

Thank you.

Note: If other people want to suggest any laptop for price RM4.5k is welcomed. I went to Sunway Pyramid Asus store last weekend to see the Asus laptop. Gosh, Asus laptop quite difficult to see the actual display model.

MyProLife: The one that you recommend for ThinkBook is out of stock sad.gif

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post Nov 24 2021, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Nov 23 2021, 08:11 PM)
Maybe Acer Swift X BUT (yes a big but) ryzen 5 comes with 8gb soldered onboard ram and ryzen 7 with 16gb ram is close to 5k budget

You seems confused about the size choices. So maybe state maximum kilograms you can accept for portability? Some 15 incher with around 2.2-2.5kg may be okayish for guys

Otherwise for 14 incher with discrete graphics, sadly no much choices left other than swift x, rog zephyrus g14 or much overpriced models like zenbooks/vivobook pro or razer blades
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Yeah, I might confused about the size choices. I would like to have portability with maximum of 1.8kg. I take a look at Asus Vivobook Pro 14x OLED with RTX 3050 with price of RM4799-RM4899 which it is okay for me. But when I check out the review, most people telling that even though it does have the dGPU but it is not a gaming laptop. I wonder why ...

Noted about the Acer Swift X 8gb soldered ram.

Currently, I am minimize my selection into these 3 selection:
a. Asus Vivobook Pro 14x OLED with RTX 3050 (waiting for color comet gray instead of silver)
b. Asus Rog Zephyrus g14
c. Lenovo Legion 5 (15 inch) .. Not sure want to go for intel or AMD

Any recommendation based on these 3 laptop above?

Thank you.
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post Nov 26 2021, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Nov 24 2021, 01:01 PM)
obviously neither Swift X nor Vivobook X series are gaming laptops because they sacrifice the GPU power limit(MAX-Q suffix mana btw?) and maybe some CPU power limit(PL2 limit may be lower) to achieve the lighter weight of sub 1.8kg, they are targeted at creative professionals.

you wish to have max 1.8 kg, so you need to sacrifice the power as said above. and Legion 5 series are not that light either (at least 2.3kg iirc) but with more power limit.

OLED seems compelling for that ASUS 14X laptop, but do u really need that? take note of some minor disadvantages such as possibly lack of DC dimmer, glossy screen (ALL OLED screen are like that for now) and possible screen burn in. but if you thing the superior color representation is deal maker/breaker for you, then go for it (especially for creative professionals PS photo edit or PR/AE video post-pro or designers whose care about that color representation)
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Thank you for the explanation and to be honest I do not know about the MAX-Q. I tried to find information about MAX-Q for Asus Rog Zephyrus g14 (GTX 1650 4GB) (https://rog.asus.com/my/laptops/rog-zephyrus/2021-rog-zephyrus-g14-series/) but could not find it on the website

I called the customer service and they told me normal boost is 50W and Dynamic Boost is 65W. By having this information, this considered okay and slightly a gaming laptop?

Btw, how to verify the information of GPU power limit that they told me?

I might going to lowyat this weekend to see the laptop it self.
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post Nov 26 2021, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 26 2021, 06:48 PM)
so u want 14 or 15 inch?
14 inch
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post Nov 26 2021, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Nov 26 2021, 01:13 PM)
Is okay wattage because 50w base is standard for 1650 mobile

Max q of 1650 mobile is even lower like 30w on ms***i GF63

To verify the wattage, you will need to run a game or benchmark and download HWInfo64 to monitor it
https://jarrods.tech/how-to-work-out-gpu-po...t-for-a-laptop/
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Thank you. But what I meant was, how to search in google on for a specific laptop to know their graphic card GPU limit?

Btw, is there any possibility that laptop A and B have same same graphic card but different GPU limit? What cause it to have different value?

I tried to check for Asus G14 gpu limit specifically and compared the value that has been given by customer service (because that guy macam take a long time to answer my question and not pretty confident about it)
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post Nov 29 2021, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Nov 26 2021, 08:18 PM)
Yes google search for reviews to see

Yes. Because different chassis thermal design
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thank you for the explanation. I might narrow it to 2021 Rog Zephyrus G14 series and Lenovo Legion 5. The price of Lenovo Legion 5 is 100 cheap compared to Asus G14 and it have more better graphic card but yeah, it will come to 14-15 inch/weight and G14 does not have webcam! zzz.

I went to Harvey Norman and tried the G14. It seems good and lightweight but yeah gonna take a look at Legion 5 this coming weekend. Last question for me to you, if were you Legion 5 or Asus G14?

QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 26 2021, 08:31 PM)

Zephyrus G14?

just ask here

yes, some manufacturers lazy to engineer (on cooling, MUX etc)
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I would like to get confirmation on the value of GPU limit (Max Q) for:
a. Asus Vivobook Pro 14X OLED (N7400, 11th Gen Intel) - NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3050
b. Legion 5 (15", Gen 6 ) (Phantom Blue) - Part Number: 82JW0067MJ - NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 3050 4GB GDDR6
c. Legion 5i (15", Gen 6) (Phantom Blue) - Part Number: 82JK0032MJ - NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 3050 4GB GDDR6
d. 2021-rog-zephyrus-g14-series - https://rog.asus.com/my/laptops/rog-zephyru...rus-g14-series/ - GA401QH - GTX1650 4GB

Last question for me to you, if were you Legion 5 or Asus G14?

Thank you to both of you for answering all my question thumbup.gif thumbsup.gif
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post Dec 5 2021, 11:30 PM

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Sifu ZM Fong and MyProLife , thank you for your advice and reply for the past few weeks.

Just bought Asus Zephyrus G14 AMD Ryzen 7 + RTX 3050 today. Damn its light (1.6kg) and sexy beast 🥳.

My last laptop was BenQ Joybook S42 year 2008. After 13 years, this is my own personal laptop. HAHAHA so damn happy 🤣 .

Btw, I do admit that Lenovo Legion 5 is far more superior and better pricing but I need portability and ringan laptop 😬

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