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stringfellow
post Sep 18 2007, 09:58 AM

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I thought the iPod Touch comes under the iPod family, and going under that, means controlled prices as well, simultaneous (or near simultaneous) availability via Apple approved resellers? This is no longer the case of iPhone, folks.....where it's future is uncertain in Malaysia, this is confirmed coming over to Malaysia, and the way i see it from past history, these items are controlled price-wise.

Im looking forward to see the crowd reaction, once it arrives here. After all, Machines is just Mediaplex next door neighbour.
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post Sep 18 2007, 10:58 AM

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I thought the Lowyat crowd are the thriftier ones( read:cheap), going to individual resellers here for prices below SRP, instead of preordering with cutthroat prices?

iPod Touch WILL be available locally and officially too, not like the iPhone. There is no reason to succumb to "entrepreneurs" making a quick buck out of your exasperation. Dont fall for the price gouging, the pricetags im seeing around the Trade section is laughable....., im laughing AT you, not WITH you, if you fall for these clowns.
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post Sep 21 2007, 09:33 AM

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Now the question is, would the Apple Store you buy here the iPod Touch here locally, allow you to sync a test movie onto the iPod Touch you're about to buy, to test so that you dont get a messed-up screen? I have that perfect video, the very video that's on the iPhone welcome page that is a guided tour of the features of the iPhone. Lots of black, and that will show it point-blank if the black level inversion to film negative problems of the screen exists on our locally available iPod touch .
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post Sep 21 2007, 10:07 AM

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Would they allow a return, or exchange once you find out that your screen is messed up? Otherwise, Malaysian consumers are screwed, that ability to simply return the item , and get a new one, no questions asked, or return the item and get refunded back, are both the things i missed from my days back in the States. Consumer is God there, it's the other way round here.
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post Sep 21 2007, 10:16 AM

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Replace to another iPod Touch only to have it exhibit the same flaw? Rinse and repeat, customer temper level flaring up.

Does anyone have any info on how much the 16Gb iPod Touch would cost here? From the Singaporean Apple Store site, the conversion PLUS the 22% price hike we love so much, i'd put it around RM1799.

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post Sep 21 2007, 11:27 AM

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I had the same experience, as well. The most these stores have are flyers and pamphlets, not unlike Apple Stores in the US, or even in Singapore, where you can testdrive the latest model yourself. Bloody store employees we are all crooks or something.

Went to ask if i could try the iPod Classic. Dont have one opened, only the new iPod Nano. The one other store in KLCC (as if there are any other store in KLCC tongue.gif), dont even have any units for field test, and they still displaying the old Nano! The only indication that the new iPods are there are those photocopied flyers.....pathetic! Malaysian consumers are subconsciously taught to buy their products without trying it , and forced to live to like it, even if it doesnt fit their needs after purchasing it. Looking it up on the web and trying it on a firsthand basis makes a whole lot of difference, especially with products with known defects like the new iPod Touch.
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post Sep 21 2007, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Sep 21 2007, 02:03 PM)
but the store in 1utama looks like its here to stay..

another thing with the ipod range is that any faults on the device..
u send it bk to dem..dey will replace the item for u..

hmm..but hw can v try before buying..most ipod range items are in sealed boxes untill v open it ourself..

does it mean..v buy edi..den on the spot test??
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Your response is the best example to show how Malaysian consumers have been preconditioned(read:brainwashed) to take this practice as the norm, rather than being entitled to a product playtest and hands-on experience that's available everywhere else. Malaysian consumer rights are a joke to begin with.

Do you know that everywhere else, outside of Malaysia, you are invited to try out the products and see if it fits your required needs? That means, yes....*gasp* an open box unit! shocking.gif Such concept is blasphemously alien here. Apple (outside Malaysia) takes it further, they complement this free "testdrive" with Genius Bars and complimentary hands-on personal training, technical support and in-depth workshops. That way, you wont have customers buying iPods, but coming in here discussion forums, blind with no clue whatsoever on how to put songs, photos, ...even videos on their iPods. I can imagine the confusion when, or IF, iPhone lands here.

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post Sep 22 2007, 02:24 AM

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Did the screen exhibit the inverted/negative blacks? The most important issue when it comes to iPod Touch here, Apple admits to this, even states that this covers up to 30% of the current iPod Touch released on this batch production.
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post Sep 22 2007, 04:08 AM

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That's good to hear. However ,to confirm this once and for all, this is the album art that is required to check if the screen suffers from inverted/negative black or not:-

user posted image

Apparently, Jay-Z's Black Album turns out to be really black on the iPod Touch screen, the black level inverted into this:-

user posted image

On some cases, the inverted blacks are so bad that even on blacks that arent deep, like shadows casts by characters in a movie, exhibits these inverted blacks.

I hope that is not the case for the locally available iPod Touch.
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post Sep 22 2007, 12:23 PM

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Dont want to be the bearer of ill news, but i've marked the spot where i think the inverted blacks exists. It's there, but not to the extent of which the case of that Jay-Z cover art. BUt if it didnt detract from your experience with it, i suppose it would not bother you much, Lokgotz.
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post Sep 22 2007, 01:23 PM

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For the iPhone, you can dial *3001#12345#* and hit the call button to check the LCD Panel ID . The first number would be the production version, it is either 5 series or the 7 series. Some claimed the 7 series being the version rectifying a few of the flaws on previous 5 series LCds, but even within the 7 series LCD, there are segregations. The folks at Macrumors continues this by check production week of the iPhone, obtained from your serial number. Check your 4th and 5th character on your 11-character serial string, those are your production week number.

What all this leads to can either a a merry chase to nowhere, or a deduction towards which iPhone after which production week has the flawed screen with negative blacks.

No idea on how to check LCD Panel ID on the iPod Touch, since it does not sport any keypad.

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post Sep 27 2007, 09:54 AM

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Are you a Japanese Windows user? Did you just buy an iPod touch? If you answered yes to both of those questions, you may find yourself in a boiling rage in a matter of moments. Apparently, you are unable to unlock your new WiFi-device / media player if you're using Japanese Windows -- the player just remains in the holding pattern of a "connect to PC" prompt when you hook it up to your computer. According to reports, Apple Japan has yet to issue a statement or updates to solve the problem, which is causing a number of Japanese buyers to take matters into their own hands. Word on the street is that lines have been forming outside of Apple stores, where new buyers are taking their useless touches to be brought magically to life by the in-store Macs. First the screen problems and now this? Come on Apple -- get it together.

Update: The crack team at Engadget Japan has learned from Apple that an update coming later this week will fix the problem, though they have yet to make an official announcement. Also, it sounds like other foreign Windows users may be experiencing similar problems. If you're having trouble -- let us know.


http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/25/japanes...the-ipod-touch/

Uh oh.........
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post Sep 29 2007, 09:02 PM

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Hmmmmmm, Touch 16Gb or Classic 160Gb? Gataaaaaaaaalnyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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post Sep 30 2007, 11:03 AM

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There is a downgrader for 1.1.1 iPhones to 1.0.2 and unlockable that way, that statement about the new iPhones being unlockable is false. The only uppper hand the iPod Touch has is bigger capacity.

Has anyone got their iPod Touch locally, besides Switch in Penang? Any KL store?
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post Sep 30 2007, 01:14 PM

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Safari and Youtube performances should be the same as on iPhone ie; brilliantly. I find that in some cases Youtube on the iPhone loads much faster and smoother than on PC at home. This should be case for the iPod Touch as well.

The iPod Touch should carry the same physical dimension as the iPhone, in width and height, on much slimmer in thickness. Instead of the silver chrome lining on the edges, iPod Touch has black linings. Instead of the unscratchable silver surface on the back like on the iPhone, the iPod Touch sports an all chrome surface, just like the present iPods, making it a fingerprint magnet. iPhone's back surface is uniform, it's all silver ......but iPod Touch has this black patch on the top left corner where the chrome gives way to black plastic so that your Wifi signal can come through. This makes the back area of the iPod Touch slightly less sleek than the iPhone.
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post Sep 30 2007, 05:11 PM

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Machines have already!!!?? shocking.gif

EDIT: Machines Midvalley has them, Machines KLCC tomorrow. Hmmm....should i go Midvalley or not? hmm.gif

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post Sep 30 2007, 05:15 PM

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Called them up , only Midvalley have them.
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post Sep 30 2007, 05:18 PM

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Not unless you want me to buka puasa in my car! laugh.gif
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post Sep 30 2007, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Shanks @ Sep 30 2007, 05:20 PM)
Yeah, Midvalley traffic was crazy. Took me 20-25 minutes to get outta' there.

So far so good, the new iPod touch. Quite a few dead pixels though. Not sure what their policy is on this kinda' thing.
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You should have stayed there and open it up to check to see if it is flawed in any way. What's your production week?

If i do go ther and buy one, im staying there to check with the syncing and any other issues like dead pixels or inverted blacks.
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post Sep 30 2007, 05:28 PM

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Most importanly....any molestation from Sirim, stickers and such? Inverted blacks issues? Sync nicely with iTunes?
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