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lokgotz
post Sep 22 2007, 12:18 AM

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i played with the ipod touch today...

there was an apple preview of the touch at their office in bukit damansara today for selected media editors..(less than 10 media were invited..they didnt want to be too loud)....

and i must say.....I AM LOOOOOOOOOOVING IT.........

they said they dont have the price yet....but i highly doubt it.....

The touch will start shipping next week from the US....

We will get it at the end of September...latest in October....

let's just hope they keep their promises.....hehe.....

This post has been edited by lokgotz: Sep 22 2007, 12:20 AM
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post Sep 22 2007, 02:24 AM

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Did the screen exhibit the inverted/negative blacks? The most important issue when it comes to iPod Touch here, Apple admits to this, even states that this covers up to 30% of the current iPod Touch released on this batch production.
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post Sep 22 2007, 03:41 AM

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For the $299 I bet the price will be RM1299 and for $399 RM1699 biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2007, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 22 2007, 02:24 AM)
Did the screen exhibit the inverted/negative blacks? The most important issue when it comes to iPod Touch here, Apple admits to this, even states that this covers up to 30% of the current iPod Touch released on this batch production.
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i did ask about this..and yes, they admitted that there are problems with the ipod touch's screen...but they assured that the ipods coming to malaysia are not the from the "faulty screen" batches....unfortunately i have not played with an iPhone before so i cant compare the inverted blacks...

i did play a music video by linkin park and the darker areas in the video "looks fine"....in quotes because that's my own preference...i am no video expert so it might not look fine to you...

so as to how much you their words is your call....

i hope that answers your question.....hehehe..... icon_rolleyes.gif

OT: they had a 8gb nano there for us to play with as well.....some how, i managed to make it hang.....

i was browsing aroud using cover flow(all the music had album arts)...i didnt wait for the album art to come up and just click the center button....the screen went haywire for about 0.5 seconds and went into the usual play screen where the album art is displayed...but it just stops there....the music stops playing, every time i press on the clickwheel it beeps.....and the apple people was panicking!hehehe....

they had to do a restart on the nano to make it work again.....and pretended nothing happened....hehe.......the expression on their faces were priceless....

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post Sep 22 2007, 04:08 AM

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That's good to hear. However ,to confirm this once and for all, this is the album art that is required to check if the screen suffers from inverted/negative black or not:-

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Apparently, Jay-Z's Black Album turns out to be really black on the iPod Touch screen, the black level inverted into this:-

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On some cases, the inverted blacks are so bad that even on blacks that arent deep, like shadows casts by characters in a movie, exhibits these inverted blacks.

I hope that is not the case for the locally available iPod Touch.
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post Sep 22 2007, 09:23 AM

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oh..cant adjust the color setting 1? like contrast..
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post Sep 22 2007, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 22 2007, 04:08 AM)
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i dont know if this helps or not.....this is the only picture i took with black/darker images showing on the screen(not counting the home screen lah).....

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i know it doesn't show much detail (because of my "super chun photography skills") but that's what i have of the inverted black issue....

EDIT: this was a preview unit for the media editors....so it might be hand picked to make sure it is a perfect ipod touch....they even had ALL the album art for their music...just like what steve had when he presented it at the keynote...hehehe

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Dont want to be the bearer of ill news, but i've marked the spot where i think the inverted blacks exists. It's there, but not to the extent of which the case of that Jay-Z cover art. BUt if it didnt detract from your experience with it, i suppose it would not bother you much, Lokgotz.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 22 2007, 12:23 PM)
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Dont want to be the bearer of ill news, but i've marked the spot where i think the inverted blacks exists. It's there, but not to the extent of which the case of that Jay-Z cover art. BUt if it didnt detract from your experience with it, i suppose it would not bother you much, Lokgotz.
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wow....u are good.....but yeah, it wont bother me much....since i cant see it in the first place........

but they did assure that the ipod coming into malaysia will not be the bad batches......as to how far you believe the PR peple is up to u...hehehe

BTW, it was a 16gb model...if that matters...
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post Sep 22 2007, 12:50 PM

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Hmm... now the issue are starting to affect some refurb iPhone as well. Scary as this get. I hope they don't switch to cheap screen to cut budget.
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post Sep 22 2007, 01:23 PM

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For the iPhone, you can dial *3001#12345#* and hit the call button to check the LCD Panel ID . The first number would be the production version, it is either 5 series or the 7 series. Some claimed the 7 series being the version rectifying a few of the flaws on previous 5 series LCds, but even within the 7 series LCD, there are segregations. The folks at Macrumors continues this by check production week of the iPhone, obtained from your serial number. Check your 4th and 5th character on your 11-character serial string, those are your production week number.

What all this leads to can either a a merry chase to nowhere, or a deduction towards which iPhone after which production week has the flawed screen with negative blacks.

No idea on how to check LCD Panel ID on the iPod Touch, since it does not sport any keypad.

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post Sep 23 2007, 12:09 AM

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Apple had admitted to the inferior LCD screen on "some" iPod touch. I'm just curious if a perfectly fine iPod touch LCD screen could match up to the one of iPhone?
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post Sep 23 2007, 01:14 AM

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News came in that week 38 iPods are generally free of defects. So, hmm, hope the stocks which arrive in our shores are week 38 onwards. Macy Gray on the box instead of Colin Bailey.
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post Sep 23 2007, 03:10 AM


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What week is it now?
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post Sep 24 2007, 08:02 PM

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Somehow Singapore's Apple Stores are faster than ours on pricing the iPod touch:

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post Sep 24 2007, 11:54 PM

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they had it long time ago, 3 days after music event

so the pricing, comfirm RM 1699 for 16Gb? (same as wat i'm predicting)


Added on September 25, 2007, 12:07 am
QUOTE(wei @ Sep 21 2007, 11:20 AM)
yeah lar. like the other day i went into an apple retail, ask if they have any demo unit for ipod camera connector. NO
Can I test to makesure my camera is support. No we don't allow that, you have to buy it.
Then I said, so meaning you asking me to buy something I'm not sure will work. Most camera are supported.

Luckily I did my research before I went there. I'm quite confident that my cam are supported. So I went ahead to buy the connector and tested on the spot. If I never do any in-dept research, I'll definitely walked off. At lease he can offer me to check on the matter, see if my camera model are supported.

Anyway, back to the topic, don't want this to turn into another bad retailer ranting thread.
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i will say, this 1 is going back to because of the packaging.
Most of the apple products' packaging for fully seal.
once you open, it's hardly to pack it back.

ask yourself, everyone, how many of you all will buy a open package happily without thinking? and in the same price.

in another way, this is good to customer. why?
because the thing customers purchse is really new.

Company policy, no choice.

I did face a silly customer, dont wanna pay for the macbook pro, but wanna to open the box first. Sxit HIm! We try to talk to him politely, this is company policy....... at last, we allowed him to do so first.

somemore he ask silly question,
1. how do i can make sure the computer is new macbook Pro (mf, the box already stated the spec)
2. how can i know the LCD is backlight LED? (mf, do i have to take out the whole screen for u? luckily i knew about the technology, LCD backlight has better respone in brightness)
After that, he still dont wanna pay, make me fire! We put force to his wife, then his good wife settle the payment, then only he process for registeration)

There is alot ppl in this world, alot of kind. Some of this really rich but CHEAP in characteristic.

sometimes it's hard to be a sales person, some ppl is really cheap, but a PRO system, but always ask for free gift.
Oh come on! will the free gift items make your system even pro? Can affold expensive laptop, mean u are rich enough, what can the free gifts do to u?


Added on September 25, 2007, 12:12 am
QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 21 2007, 11:27 AM)
I had the same experience, as well. The most these stores have are flyers and pamphlets, not unlike Apple Stores in the US, or even in Singapore, where you can testdrive the latest model yourself. Bloody store employees we are all crooks or something.

Went to ask if i could try the iPod Classic. Dont have one opened, only the new iPod Nano. The one other store in KLCC (as if there are any other store in KLCC tongue.gif), dont even have any units for field test, and they still displaying the old Nano! The only indication that the new iPods are there are those photocopied flyers.....pathetic! Malaysian consumers are subconsciously taught to buy their products without trying it , and forced to live to like it, even if it doesnt fit their needs after purchasing it. Looking it up on the web and trying it on a firsthand basis makes a whole lot of difference,  especially with products with known defects like the new iPod Touch.
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okay man,, be cool!
if they dont have to test unit, then u dont feel safe, then dont buy first. u can buy later, it;s still the same.
sometimes, u have to understand that, maybe stock constrain, apple malaysia not really supply enough unit.

In business term, this situation like u faced will pop up, making profit is always first term compare to money flow to expenses.




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post Sep 25 2007, 12:12 AM

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Any1 tested iPod Touch's video quality. Which is better compared to PSP?
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post Sep 25 2007, 12:16 AM

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im planning to buy an ipod touch from singapore simlim since im heading to singapore for a wedding dinner next mth, not really sure whether it would be cheaper or not
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post Sep 25 2007, 12:17 AM

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for sure it will be cheaper compare to malaysia
our tax is bloody hell


Added on September 25, 2007, 12:18 am
QUOTE(black^demon @ Sep 25 2007, 12:12 AM)
Any1 tested iPod Touch's video quality. Which is better compared to PSP?
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good question
willing to knwo also

but both machines play on different format, different resolution

any expert can tech how to do comparition

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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Sep 25 2007, 12:17 AM)
for sure it will be cheaper compare to malaysia
our tax is bloody hell
When you purchase items in US, you need to pay additional 8.5% for the sales tax, the margin is very closed if you convert and see smile.gif


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