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post Jun 14 2021, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Jun 14 2021, 03:54 PM)
So you’re saying there are valid excuses to punch a doctor?
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If their so call lacklustre and tak apa attitude mengakibatlkan your parents died, deserve punch or Not. Or you generously let it slide. Note you cant sue doctor for his tidak apa attitude, they are protrcted specis by some agreement contract..
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 14 2021, 05:12 PM)
We criticise/joke but only in our sphere of colleagues but never infront of patients or worst put on soc media. Rafidah damn kuda
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But.covid is out of comtrol, and doctors mentality too .. and we do have doctors tsking selfie when patient terkangkang waiting for labour.
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Jun 14 2021, 05:15 PM)
If their so call lacklustre and tak apa attitude mengakibatlkan your parents died, deserve punch or Not. Or you generously let it slide. Note you cant sue doctor for his tidak apa attitude, they are protrcted specis by some agreement contract..
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Who said can't sue doctors. Got a few cases already people sue doctors and hospitals for negligence etc. Yes, in malaysia
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Zaazuu @ Jun 14 2021, 03:24 PM)
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:21 PM

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post Jun 14 2021, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 14 2021, 05:18 PM)
Who said can't sue doctors. Got a few cases already people sue doctors and hospitals for negligence etc. Yes, in malaysia
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Sue gomen la.

Not doctor personally, if the doctor is gomen doctor
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 14 2021, 05:18 PM)
Who said can't sue doctors. Got a few cases already people sue doctors and hospitals for negligence etc. Yes, in malaysia
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They will say is covid and everybodys short handed. And you the one should be feel grateful instead even they tidak apa. The fact if one admited.to icu due to covid, they will rely more on their own will to survive than doctor treatement.
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Jun 14 2021, 05:17 PM)
But.covid is out of comtrol, and doctors mentality too .. and we do have doctors tsking selfie when patient terkangkang waiting for labour.
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Private =/= Public. If private expect your whole life to be destroyed over night.

Public? Shift ward je. Lol
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 14 2021, 05:30 PM)
Sue gomen la.

Not doctor personally,  if the doctor is gomen doctor
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Nope, should be both. Hospital is not liable to doctor action. And doctor for covid is protected spesis.. at the end, vixtim lost. Sekurang kurang at leadt give a punch for the dotor joke, tidak apa, lansi, main phone, etc..
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Jun 14 2021, 03:54 PM)
So you’re saying there are valid excuses to punch a doctor?
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I might have wrote that wrongly, no it is not OK to hit someone but I can understand someone getting piss off from a doctor. That what I was trying to say..

QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 14 2021, 04:06 PM)
So you think you know better than the doctor?

So you think it's ok to punch a doctor?
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No I don't know better than doctor that is why I went to see a doctor in a private hospital to get help or advice in the first place.. But at the end I got nothing and I was about rm500 poorer...

No it is not OK to punch anybody.

QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 14 2021, 04:16 PM)
Same applies to your case too.. better hear both sides of the story.

The dr might have alot of experience so can quickly diagnose your injury and give you good news . and his paperwork might need to be urgently done to expedite treatment for other serious patients.

If he spent 1 hour with you with fulll workup  (x-ray and all)... you'll be cursing too for the expensive bill (and ended up unnecessary coz injury is mild)
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He did send me for x Ray that is why the bill was few hundred ringgit. My expectation was some kind of help to ease the pain in my foot be it medication or tips on what to do to ease the pain. At the end I got nothing. Pretty much I would I be better off just staying at home instead of going to see that specialist...
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:34 PM

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Pihak pengurusan Hospital Tuanku Ampuan Rahimah Klang (HTAR) telah membuat laporan polis berasingan berhubung dua insiden kekasaran berkaitan pesakit Covid-19.

Dalam insiden pertama, yang didakwa berlaku pada 6 Jun, seorang anak lelaki kepada pesakit yang meninggal dunia di hospital itu didakwa menumbuk seorang doktor yang bertugas.

Tiga hari kemudian, pada 9 Jun, seorang pesakit Covid-19 didakwa menikam seorang lagi pesakit di wad menggunakan pisau.

Malaysiakini difahamkan pesakit tiada sejarah penyakit mental, tetapi pesakit mungkin mengalami "halusinasi" disebabkan Covid-19, yang dilaporkan berlaku kepada sesetengah pesakit yang dijangkiti virus tersebut.

Ketua Polis Daerah Klang Selatan Shamsul Amar Ramil ketika dihubungi, mengesahkan pihaknya menerima dua laporan daripada pengurusan HTAR.

"Saya boleh sahkan kami terima laporan berkaitan kes-kes ini," katanya kepada Malaysiakini.

Shamsul bagaimanapun enggan menyatakan perincian lanjut berkenaan perkara itu.

Malaysiakini telah menghubungi HTAR untuk mendapatkan maklum balas mereka.

Dakwaan kejadian ini di tengah-tengah memo dalaman yang dikeluarkan pengarah hospital Dr Zulkarnain Mohd Rawi kepada semua ketua jabatan, ketua unit dan timbalan pengarah. Memo itu memberi peringatan tindakan disiplin akan diambil jika hal dalaman hospital didedahkan kepada umum.

Tidak jelas jika memo tersebut, yang bertarikh 8 Jun, ada kaitan dengan kejadian kekasaran pertama.

Tekanan terhadap kakitangan kesihatan

Perkara ini membangkitkan tekanan yang dihadapi kakitangan kesihatan yang bertugas di wad Covid-19.

Insiden kekasaran terhadap pekerja kesihatan yang merawat pesakit Covid-19 sebelum ini dilaporkan berlaku di Mexico dan India, ketika dua negara ini berdepan jumlah kes yang tinggi.

Di Hong Kong, bom petrol dilontarkan ke sekurang-kurangnya empat pusat kesihatan selepas kerajaan menyenaraikannya sebagai pusat untuk merawat Covid-19, menurut Safeguarding Health in Conflict Coalition.

Pemantauan yang dibuat badan itu mengenal asti 412 serangan berkaitan wabak terhadap kakitangan kesihatan antara Januari hingga Disember 2020.

Di Malaysia pula, Malaysiakini difahamkan kakitangan kesihatan di wad Covid-19 terpaksa berdepan kemarahan ahli keluarga pesakit yang dalam kesedihan - sama ada berkenaan kunjungan pesakit di wad mahupun soal pengendalian jenazah.

Kedua-dua perkara itu dilarang untuk mengelakkan penularan wabak.

Antara lain, difahamkan ahli keluarga yang terdesak menjadi marah apabila kakitangan kesihatan enggan menggunakan "ubat atau penawar ajaib" yang dibawa ahli keluarga.

Bilangan kes baru Covid-19 di Malaysia kekal melebihi 5,000 sehari, di saat Malaysia meneruskan penguatkuasaan sekatan pergerakan penuh sehingga 28 Jun ini.

Pada bulan ini saja, angka kematian akibat wabak ini sudah melebihi 1,000 orang, manakala sejumlah 917 pesakit ditempatkan di Unit Rawatan Rapi (ICU).

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/578858

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SUShaswell88
post Jun 14 2021, 05:38 PM

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Wow, now claim anak pesakit halunasi akibat covid. nak sudah kehilangan bapak... dianggap berhalunasi ... doctor is untouchable spesis..
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:40 PM

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Klang is really wild wild west place. Fighting, gengster, waving parang, you name it.
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 14 2021, 03:29 PM)
That's why I ventured into private environment. Public hospitals really berlambak with the stupid & uneducated.

Kena before one guy scream into my face because I tried to help him stand (post stroke) saying leave me be I don't wanna get better.

Yeah no thanks
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I have a relative who is a houseman at TARH and she told me they always get cases of emergencies from fights, shooting etc all from Klang area. And when they come, their whole family or gang members friends will crowd the hospital.
I told her to quickly finish her housemanship and get outta that shithole ASAP. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 14 2021, 05:03 PM)
Should be MERS I think. SARs was 02. You can't be that old man
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Or H1N1
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Jun 14 2021, 05:32 PM)
Nope, should be both. Hospital is not liable to doctor action. And doctor for covid is protected spesis.. at the end, vixtim lost. Sekurang kurang at leadt give a punch for the dotor joke, tidak apa, lansi, main phone, etc..
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Sudahlah tu bro. Nampak sangat kebencian you kat doktor tu. Cite la sikit bro apa sejarahnya
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post Jun 14 2021, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Jun 14 2021, 10:15 AM)
If their so call lacklustre and tak apa attitude mengakibatlkan your parents died, deserve punch or Not. Or you generously let it slide. Note you cant sue doctor for his tidak apa attitude, they are protrcted specis by some agreement contract..
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So you’re saying if polis or bomba who have the same so-called lacklustre and tak apa attitude mengakibatkan your parents died, also deserve punch.

I’d like to see you try. Do one with police first.
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Jun 14 2021, 10:30 AM)
They will say is covid and everybodys short handed. And you the one should be feel grateful instead even they tidak apa. The fact if one admited.to icu due to covid, they will rely more on their own will to survive than doctor treatement.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 14 2021, 03:43 PM)
I know this but this guy had an minor infrac which didn't effect his frontal lobe which controls decision making & emotions.

He was just lazy & wanted his wife to continue feeding & carrying him whilst he could walk
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Just do lobotomy procedure on that dude and settle all problems already

Oh wai-
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jun 14 2021, 10:33 AM)
I might have wrote that wrongly, no it is not OK to hit someone but I can understand someone getting piss off from a doctor. That what I was trying to say..
No I don't know better than doctor that is why I went to see a doctor in a private hospital to get help or advice in the first place.. But at the end I got nothing and I was about rm500 poorer...

No it is not OK to punch anybody.
He did send me for x Ray that is why the bill was few hundred ringgit. My expectation was some kind of help to ease the pain in my foot be it medication or tips on what to do to ease the pain. At the end I got nothing. Pretty much I would I be better off just staying at home instead of going to see that specialist...
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Good. It’s never alright to do that.

If patient has an issue with a doctor, file a complaint, sue in court, etc. Punch a doctor and you’d be in a world of hurt.

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