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Do you think statewide election and the preceding campaigning could be done safely in the next 3 months?
 
Yes could be done and would be done safely, all follow SOP [ 17 ] ** [11.26%]
Could be done in theory, but wouldn't be done because all bodo [ 45 ] ** [29.80%]
No, couldn't be done safely [ 19 ] ** [12.58%]
Nurul Izzah for PM [ 19 ] ** [12.58%]
Mageran lai [ 10 ] ** [6.62%]
Texas Jiken > Kepci [ 41 ] ** [27.15%]
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:31 PM, updated 5y ago

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Sos : https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...-lifted/1981312

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Dr Noor Hisham says can’t stop elections from coming after Emergency lifted, discretion with Agong
Friday, 11 Jun 2021 08:51 AM MYT

BY RADZI RAZAK

KUALA LUMPUR, June 11 — Health Director-General Tan Sri Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah said that should the Emergency be lifted, there would be nothing stopping the previously postponed by-elections and state election from happening.

Dr Noor Hisham also asserted that only Yang di-Pertuan Agong now has the discretion whether the Emergency, which was scheduled to end in August, would continue.

“It's up to the King to decide,” he told Malay Mail.

“Once we revoke the Emergency Ordinance we will have to conduct three by-elections and the Sarawak state election as we do not have power to stop the election under the constitution.

Al-Sultan Abdullah Ri’ayatuddin Al-Mustafa Billah has been meeting with political leaders this week to discuss Malaysia's fight against Covid-19 as well as the political and economical impact to the country.

On Wednesday, the Agong met with Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin as part of a weekly pre-cabinet meeting before then holding audiences with PKR president Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng and Amanah president Mohamad Sabu of the Pakatan Harapan coalition.

On Thursday, the King granted audience with former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, PAS deputy president Datuk Seri Tuan Ibrahim Tuan Man, MCA president Datuk Seri Wee Ka Siong, and Parti Warisan president Datuk Seri Mohd Shafie Apdal.

Umno president Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi will be granted an audience today.

Several media reports indicated that it is understood that the Covid-19 pandemic situation and the ending of the Emergency are among the issues expected to be discussed at the meetings.

This comes as former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad revealed that he has suggested the formation of a National Operations Council during his audience with the Yang di-Pertuan Agong earlier yesterday.

The 95-year-old explained that forming the council, better known by its Malay abbreviation Mageran, could potentially steer the country towards the right direction and help solve the health, economic, and social issues currently plaguing the country.

However, he related that the Agong said the suggestion must come from the government instead, which has indicated its disagreement towards the idea.


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ericangtzeann
post Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM

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Yay looking forward to fmco3
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM

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Can do online voting......
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM

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i welcome GE


i want to see more covid case !!!!!!


now 5k is too low
too low!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:34 PM

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Kasian tak boleh pilihanraya sbb covid

Cuba tanya new Zealand mcm mana dorang boleh buat pilihanraya

Negeri pulau kecik senang urus owaiiii
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
i welcome GE
i want to see more covid case !!!!!!
now 5k is too low
too low!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Health DG: No need to postpone Sabah polls, hope to contain spread after
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5030166
https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2020/09/...hanraya-metrotv

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post Jun 11 2021, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(ericangtzeann @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
Yay looking forward to fmco3
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Noor Hisham: Avoid Any Election If Possible
19 Nov 2020
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5060152
https://www.theborneopost.com/2020/11/19/av...dr-noor-hisham/
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(wangpr @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
Can do online voting......
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itu need RM7b allocation budget
TShotdayum
post Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
i welcome GE
i want to see more covid case !!!!!!
now 5k is too low
too low!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Brapa lagi u mau?
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(lagista @ Jun 11 2021, 02:36 PM)
Health DG: No need to postpone Sabah polls, hope to contain spread after
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5030166
https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2020/09/...hanraya-metrotv
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yes more covid case please!!

more!!!
loon90
post Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM

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So Moo scare of GE?
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM)
Brapa lagi u mau?
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20k covid case per day
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Jun 11 2021, 02:34 PM)
Kasian tak boleh pilihanraya sbb covid

Cuba tanya new Zealand mcm mana dorang boleh buat pilihanraya

Negeri pulau kecik senang urus owaiiii
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha......
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QUOTE(loon90 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM)
So Moo scare of GE?
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do u want GE? brows.gif
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
i welcome GE
i want to see more covid case !!!!!!
now 5k is too low
too low!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You want MYR drop lower lettew
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM)
yes more covid case please!!

more!!!
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Pakar Kesihatan: Tangguhkan PRN Sabah Untuk Elak Situasi Covid-19 Bertambah Buruk
22 Sep 2020
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5030101
https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/nasional/...sabah-ditangguh
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:39 PM

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but India and malaysia demokrasi
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM)
20k covid case per day
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Kenot. People will die.
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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 11 2021, 02:38 PM)
You want MYR drop lower lettew
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i want see india v2 here

biar rakyat mati asalkan kita berkuasa

#cowpiss
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:39 PM

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post Jun 11 2021, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Jun 11 2021, 02:39 PM)
Kenot. People will die.
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upholding democracy is more important

must undi !!!!


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QUOTE(lagista @ Jun 11 2021, 02:36 PM)
Health DG: No need to postpone Sabah polls, hope to contain spread after
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5030166
https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2020/09/...hanraya-metrotv
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He should be held liable for this crap.

ptui....



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post Jun 11 2021, 02:41 PM

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As a DG, cant he just focus on his work?
These sort of remark leave it to the politician?
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:42 PM

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Don't really get the election process huuhaa.
The problem is the campaign. Not the voting process. Scratch campaign out, ezpz. laugh.gif
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:38 PM)
do u want GE?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(loon90 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM)
So Moo scare of GE?
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:43 PM

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Told you. This DG is so biased to government. It's not as if he cannot protest whatever government does, he himself is a fan.
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:43 PM

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Inb4 50k cases daily
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Jun 11 2021, 02:39 PM)
Kenot. People will die.
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can celebrate hari raya, why cannot election??? whistling.gif
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:45 PM

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I think voting is not an issue but politician keep campaigning is the biggest issues here. If we r to have election soon, r they gonna campaign like they did in Sabah?
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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 11 2021, 02:44 PM)
can celebrate hari raya, why cannot election??? whistling.gif
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mana ada?????????
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:45 PM

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This is a typical case of wolf in sheep's clothing.
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:45 PM

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This DG is showing his true color.

Let do GE. You kept locking us down till how long? Lock down cases also up, economy is bad. Might as well fight u bunch of inept govt once and for all. Let the real good people to serve. Janji oren kito.
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(drug5 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:45 PM)
I think voting is not an issue but politician keep campaigning is the biggest issues here. If we r to have election soon, r they gonna campaign like they did in Sabah?
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u dun said?????????
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:45 PM)
This DG is showing his true color.

Let do GE. You kept locking us down till how long? Lock down cases also up, economy is bad. Might as well fight u bunch of inept govt once and for all. Let the real good people to serve. Janji oren kito.
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sure!
i very welcome this

1 sabah election = malaysia 7k case

whole malaysia election = you do the math laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:47 PM)
sure!
i very welcome this

1 sabah election = malaysia 7k case

whole malaysia election = you do the math laugh.gif
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Lepas sembayang ah?

PeeYam bodo don't know maths la
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boss, Milo Cincau tanpa susu, MC'o satu
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:51 PM

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Can do, no problem, just select 0.01% of total voters to vote.

If the constuency has 10,000 voters, just select 1 voter allowed to votd.
For 100,000 voters area, select 10 voters to represent the others.

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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:48 PM)
Lepas sembayang ah?

PeeYam bodo don't know maths la
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bagus la kalau covid naik sampai 20k laugh.gif
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:51 PM

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but last time u said Sabah erection tak ada isu pun
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:55 PM

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why dg more concern with elections than controlling covid?
proven when under darurat still spreak like hero.. so why would it be any worst without darurat then?
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election.

new kes increase.

another lockdown?
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(wangpr @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
Can do online voting......
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Mysejahtera 70mil..
If online Blockchain voting 2.6bil I think
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:57 PM

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Kes increased during Darurat Politiks
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:57 PM

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Let Yeo B handle using excel lo......
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post Jun 11 2021, 02:59 PM

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Fear mongering nih

Who say no more dalulat have to have GE?

This PN bestest gov not got 2-3 more years meh rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 11 2021, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(OldSchoolJoke @ Jun 11 2021, 02:36 PM)
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Of course he cannot stop it.
Not in his power.

But if dumbass want election like Sabah and willing to risk health to go vote.
What can you do ?
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Actually I don't know why can't we just declare this current govt being inefficient and set up an interim govt with the right people chosen by Agong to settle this covid pandemic. After that straight to election.

It is very clear even if you are ardent supporter of this current administration that most of them are ineffective and waste of space.

Previously our current administration promised election once this covid is over, but come on, it is VERY CLEAR they are not capable of stopping it. So just step down, have a cabinet assembled by Agong (accountable for both success or failure) as interim measure to steer us through, then election.

Seriously I rather have election now than this ongoing suffering. Though I know in my heart an election now may not produce the right leaders too, but better than this ongoing suffering.
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forever lockdown

forever darurat

your Abah forever Pm

best
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What tokok is this?
Is this Threatening?
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:04 PM)
What tokok is this?
Is this Threatening?
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so do you want GE or not? Yes or no? brows.gif
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dg explain so clear.
if no darurat-> parliament reconvene-> undi tak percaya kepada govt-> moodin bubar parliament-> General election.
Then covid cases > 20k per day.
This is what ktards want right?
want to see this country burnt.

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Oh wait…. So the reason to have darurat is to stop GE? Not covid??
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jun 11 2021, 03:02 PM)
Of course he cannot stop it.
Not in his power.

But if dumbass want election like Sabah and willing to risk health to go vote.
What can you do ?
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numberman supporter will tell you everything can be sacrificed for numberman to be PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:06 PM)
so do you want GE or not? Yes or no?  brows.gif
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Tak mau GE.
Tak mau darurat.

End darurat so i can watch parliament.
so, it should be "If Darurat gone, parliament will come"

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Sabah OK

GE not OK

Whatt
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QUOTE(joeblow @ Jun 11 2021, 03:03 PM)
Actually I don't know why can't we just declare this current govt being inefficient and set up an interim govt with the right people chosen by Agong to settle this covid pandemic. After that straight to election.

It is very clear even if you are ardent supporter of this current administration that most of them are ineffective and waste of space.

Previously our current administration promised election once this covid is over, but come on, it is VERY CLEAR they are not capable of stopping it. So just step down, have a cabinet assembled by Agong (accountable for both success or failure) as interim measure to steer us through, then election.

Seriously I rather have election now than this ongoing suffering. Though I know in my heart an election now may not produce the right leaders too, but better than this ongoing suffering.
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who to declare? you or me? laugh.gif
who has the authority to judge a government?
are we komunis that someone can just declare govt being inefficient? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

if agong now can declare.
what makes him next time he cannot suka hati declare next govt is inefficient?
on what basis? and who are there to judge? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jun 11 2021, 02:41 PM)
As a DG, cant he just focus on his work?
These sort of remark leave it to the politician?
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U see politicians now
Got hope ke?
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Health DG side PN?
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QUOTE(joeblow @ Jun 11 2021, 03:03 PM)
Actually I don't know why can't we just declare this current govt being inefficient and set up an interim govt with the right people chosen by Agong to settle this covid pandemic. After that straight to election.

It is very clear even if you are ardent supporter of this current administration that most of them are ineffective and waste of space.

Previously our current administration promised election once this covid is over, but come on, it is VERY CLEAR they are not capable of stopping it. So just step down, have a cabinet assembled by Agong (accountable for both success or failure) as interim measure to steer us through, then election.

Seriously I rather have election now than this ongoing suffering. Though I know in my heart an election now may not produce the right leaders too, but better than this ongoing suffering.
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who is the right people?

unless it is anwar for the PM, some vocal group will insist it is not good and want election.
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The only unavoidable election is in Sarawak but that can be easily postponed with an emergency declaration only for Sarawak. KJ said that we will achieve herd immunity by end of this year anyway, so nothing to worry about. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Sum Ting Wong @ Jun 11 2021, 03:07 PM)
dg explain so clear.
if no darurat-> parliament reconvene-> undi tak percaya kepada govt-> moodin bubar parliament-> General election.
Then covid cases > 20k per day.
This is what ktards want right?
want to see this country burnt.
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yes , i cant wait to have 50k covid case per day
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:09 PM)
Health DG side PN?
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plain fact also can't accept

the shit start because of sabah election, and now want election again

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:09 PM)
Health DG side PN?
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so do you want GE now?
Yes or no?


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QUOTE(LiMi @ Jun 11 2021, 03:08 PM)
Sabah OK

GE not OK

Whatt
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sabah = 7-8k case

whole GE? u want to see 50k per day is it? laugh.gif

i very welcome you as part of the statistic
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Looking at current situation, I prefer to have the ge
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Darurat enabler cocksucker speaks again.
Why does a Health DG talking about election? None of your fucking business.
And emergency can be declared locally for suspending elections until the situation gets better instead of the whole country in emergency.
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QUOTE(joeblow @ Jun 11 2021, 03:03 PM)
Actually I don't know why can't we just declare this current govt being inefficient and set up an interim govt with the right people chosen by Agong to settle this covid pandemic. After that straight to election.

It is very clear even if you are ardent supporter of this current administration that most of them are ineffective and waste of space.

Previously our current administration promised election once this covid is over, but come on, it is VERY CLEAR they are not capable of stopping it. So just step down, have a cabinet assembled by Agong (accountable for both success or failure) as interim measure to steer us through, then election.

Seriously I rather have election now than this ongoing suffering. Though I know in my heart an election now may not produce the right leaders too, but better than this ongoing suffering.
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if do election now.
> case would go up, until hospital cant cover the cases in ICU, more people will die
> government/minister/leader changed, progress of current covid program, vaccination might be impact, which might cause the case go up or down depend on how smart they govern. and more people might die as well


else, do election later
> speed up vaccination rate and supply to all peoples
> once reach 80% population vaccinated
> daily cases also decrease until controllable, hospital with less ICU cases, less people die
> then do election , change all gov/leader/minister that u want etc, at least covid-19 is now thing of the past, people can start working again like normal


once people is dead, nothing u can do. imagine ur parents, sibling , ur spouse die due covid-19 and is because of u ,want the election right now.

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Why must meet political leaders to get their opinion on the country's Covid situation ? Where the hell is the Special Advisory Covid19 Committee whom is suppose to advice the Agong ?
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:12 PM)
Darurat enabler cocksucker speaks again.
Why does a Health DG talking about election? None of your fucking business.
And emergency can be declared locally for suspending elections until the situation gets better instead of the whole country in emergency.
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election > cases go up > all blame DG cause failed to contain covid 19
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:51 PM)
bagus la kalau covid naik sampai 20k  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(joeblow @ Jun 11 2021, 03:03 PM)
Actually I don't know why can't we just declare this current govt being inefficient and set up an interim govt with the right people chosen by Agong to settle this covid pandemic. After that straight to election.

It is very clear even if you are ardent supporter of this current administration that most of them are ineffective and waste of space.

Previously our current administration promised election once this covid is over, but come on, it is VERY CLEAR they are not capable of stopping it. So just step down, have a cabinet assembled by Agong (accountable for both success or failure) as interim measure to steer us through, then election.

Seriously I rather have election now than this ongoing suffering. Though I know in my heart an election now may not produce the right leaders too, but better than this ongoing suffering.
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what if PN win ??????????

have you ever thought of that??????????????

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:15 PM)
what is PN win ??????????

have you ever thought of that??????????????
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election again until anwar become PM

else #notmyPM #kerajaan gagal
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:16 PM)
election again until anwar become PM

else #notmyPM #kerajaan gagal
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:12 PM)
Darurat enabler cocksucker speaks again.
Why does a Health DG talking about election? None of your fucking business.
And emergency can be declared locally for suspending elections until the situation gets better instead of the whole country in emergency.
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already darurat for how many months, spent so much on vaccination, has the cases go down? has vaccination complete for 70% of malaysia? doesnt this reflect your capability as health dg?

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:15 PM)
what is PN win ??????????

have you ever thought of that??????????????
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So now he become EC chairman or spokesperson issit ?
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messenger peluk the gov kuat kuat oh....

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So now he become EC chairman or spokesperson issit ?
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jun 11 2021, 03:14 PM)
sure bodo didnt read the news, didnt have brain to process
election > cases go up > all blame DG cause failed to contain covid 19
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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 03:21 PM)
messenger peluk the gov kuat kuat oh....

aiyohai
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so do you want GE now??
and are you ready for 20k a day covid?

i can help you book nirvana or icu 1st laugh.gif
how many family member slot you need?
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so now DG is law expert la ya??
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DG shouldn't meddle with politics, DG only need to take the blame once case go up after GE.

DG role is to become scape goat, pipit role is to complain, helang keep fighting for power, everyone must do their job
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:39 PM)
i want see india v2 here

biar rakyat mati asalkan kita berkuasa

#cowpiss
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this word not valid
the word yg valid, saya rela mati demi kuasa

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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 11 2021, 03:23 PM)
so now DG is law expert la ya??
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jun 11 2021, 03:14 PM)
sure bodo didnt read the news, didnt have brain to process
election > cases go up > all blame DG cause failed to contain covid 19
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QUOTE(akecema @ Jun 11 2021, 03:23 PM)
thi word not valid
the word yg valid, saya rela mati demi kuasa
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eh eh salah la bro

more like: kamu semua mati, janji saya yang berkuasa laugh.gif
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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 11 2021, 03:23 PM)
so now DG is law expert la ya??
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You only need SPM level of constitution knowledge to know that election MUST happen unless its emergency. DG merely stating the fact, and this time he dun dare to say COVID can be contained if there's election.

Problem is pipit bodo keep complain, darurat they complain, election they complain, then what they dun complain? Agong straight angkat Numberman jadi PM they only dun complain, this is the only outcome pipit PH want
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:16 PM)
Takut after the election, you are in ICU for covid  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jun 11 2021, 03:25 PM)
You only need SPM level of constitution knowledge to know that election MUST happen unless its emergency. DG merely stating the fact, and this time he dun dare to say COVID can be contained if there's election.

Problem is pipit bodo keep complain, darurat they complain, election they complain, then what they dun complain? Agong straight angkat Numberman jadi PM they only dun complain, this is the only outcome pipit PH want
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PH already said no vote of no confidence for parliament sitting

what kok you tok mr DG
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jun 11 2021, 03:26 PM)
It's ok, getting my 2nd dose soon. My family too.
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getting vaccine is not immune to covid duhhhhhhhh doh.gif doh.gif

tu la suruh baca news, kau asyik main doto laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:22 PM)
so do you want GE now??
and are you ready for 20k a day covid?

i can help you book nirvana or icu 1st  laugh.gif
how many family member slot you need?
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do you wan ur money dump into sea and in future your children to payback?
how much money spend with no results?

hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jun 11 2021, 03:27 PM)
PH already said no vote of no confidence for parliament sitting

what kok you tok mr DG
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Why need election? Current PM lose majority support, Agong can pick a new PM based on who commands the majority support of MP.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 04:10 PM)
so do you want GE now?
Yes or no?
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I am open. Why not? There are many countries executed GE last year, for example Singapore.

We can do the GE the different way, for example GE within 7 days, no public gathering/talk, 2 days voting scheme which limit voter come out all together.

Why so scare. Most important is we let the expert manage the government. Not like current that we have 70 over minister but no result.

How many of them are capable??
How many of them are just "frog" and given a post just to support PN??

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jun 11 2021, 03:25 PM)
You only need SPM level of constitution knowledge to know that election MUST happen unless its emergency. DG merely stating the fact, and this time he dun dare to say COVID can be contained if there's election.

Problem is pipit bodo keep complain, darurat they complain, election they complain, then what they dun complain? Agong straight angkat Numberman jadi PM they only dun complain, this is the only outcome pipit PH want
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bang nuar sudah lama tunggu
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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 03:27 PM)
do you wan ur money dump into sea and in future your children to payback?
how much money spend with no results?

hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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no wonder they said human never learn

1 sabah election = 7-8k
whole malaysia GE = 50k per day

good luck brother!!!




and what IF PN win election?
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will u still complain?or shut the fark up for election? laugh.gif laugh.gif
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DG narrative only serve one lord, i think he uturn more than Sabri Ismail. Today praise rt decrease, tomorrow suddenly say critical.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:21 PM)
for you:
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:28 PM)
I am open. Why not?  There are many countries executed GE last year, for example Singapore.

We can do the GE the different way, for example GE within 7 days, no public gathering/talk, 2 days voting scheme which limit voter come out all together.

Why so scare. Most important is we let the expert manage the government. Not like current that we have 70 over minister but no result.

How many of them are capable??
How many of them are just "frog" and given a post just to support PN??
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u want election? sure....
prepare to face 50k a day...dont said no early warning

AND

have u ever wonder what if PN win?
will u still shout for election?

brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:37 PM)
yes more covid case please!!

more!!!
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:29 PM)
no wonder they said human never learn

1 sabah election = 7-8k
whole malaysia GE = 50k per day

good luck brother!!!
and what IF PN win election?
brows.gif

will u still complain?or shut the fark up for election? laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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you know why after sabah GE case rise?

sebab, no need quarantine.. PN yang cakap x payah lah.. aiyo

you say IF: can be anything what..
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jun 11 2021, 03:25 PM)
You only need SPM level of constitution knowledge to know that election MUST happen unless its emergency. DG merely stating the fact, and this time he dun dare to say COVID can be contained if there's election.

Problem is pipit bodo keep complain, darurat they complain, election they complain, then what they dun complain? Agong straight angkat Numberman jadi PM they only dun complain, this is the only outcome pipit PH want
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surely the pipit bodo failed the SPM. didnt understand a word.
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:28 PM)
I am open. Why not?  There are many countries executed GE last year, for example Singapore.

We can do the GE the different way, for example GE within 7 days, no public gathering/talk, 2 days voting scheme which limit voter come out all together.

Why so scare. Most important is we let the expert manage the government. Not like current giv that has 70 over minister but no result.

How many of them are capable??
How many of them are just "frog" and given a post just to support PN??
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you want to amend election law?

first you need gov to propose, and if moo moo as PM reject and straight ask for dissolve of parliament, there is no turning back, unless king refuse the advise. but then, if no one can prove majority support, GE the only way
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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 03:31 PM)
you know why after sabah GE case rise?

sebab, no need quarantine.. PN yang cakap x payah lah.. aiyo

you say IF: can be anything what..
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so whole nation need quarantine for GE?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:30 PM)
u want election? sure....
prepare to face 50k a day...dont said no early warning

AND

have u ever wonder what if PN win?
will u still shout for election?

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QUOTE(nearlee @ Jun 11 2021, 03:31 PM)
>macai BN tergelabah
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now sudah PN la brother laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 04:30 PM)
have u ever wonder what if PN win?

brows.gif  brows.gif
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This is not the question wonder this or wonder that, but a choice from majority.

If PN win, then let them to find the real experts within themselves. At least, they will not need to give GLC or Minister post so easily when they have the "official" support.


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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:27 PM)
getting vaccine is not immune to covid duhhhhhhhh doh.gif  doh.gif

tu la suruh baca news, kau asyik main doto  laugh.gif
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No one say immune to covid, don't assume and make an ass out of yourself.

You say ICU which a fully vaccinated person can prevent which that's what the vaccine do and prevent you from getting a severe covid symptom. nod.gif

Don't spend so much time on LYN, do more reading bro. Might help your intellectual level.
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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 03:31 PM)
you know why after sabah GE case rise?

sebab, no need quarantine.. PN yang cakap x payah lah.. aiyo

you say IF: can be anything what..
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:33 PM)
This is not the question wonder this or wonder that, but a choice from majority. 

If PN win, then let them to find the real experts within themselves. At least, they will not need to give GLC or Minister post so easily when they have the "official" support.
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good luck for GE....

dont cry when cases hit 50k then that elected govt do another round of darurat again laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:32 PM)
so whole nation need quarantine for GE?
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yes, why not? short pain rather than non stop up and down..

guna otak pls..

lockdown half cooked, until when?
who guarantee you vaccination can prevent 100% to not get infected?
who guarantee you vaccination can against covid19 mutation?

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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jun 11 2021, 03:25 PM)
You only need SPM level of constitution knowledge to know that election MUST happen unless its emergency. DG merely stating the fact, and this time he dun dare to say COVID can be contained if there's election.

Problem is pipit bodo keep complain, darurat they complain, election they complain, then what they dun complain? Agong straight angkat Numberman jadi PM they only dun complain, this is the only outcome pipit PH want
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Why only sarahan PH when Umngok also complain like hell

U sked PH + Umngok tagteam sapu 2/3 issit
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jun 11 2021, 03:33 PM)
No one say immune to covid, don't assume and make an ass out of yourself.

You say ICU which a fully vaccinated person can prevent which that's what the vaccine do and prevent you from getting a severe covid symptom.  nod.gif

Don't spend so much time on LYN, do more reading bro. Might help your intellectual level.
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good luck is all i can said

like the chinese said: dont wait till see keranda only cry

sorry me aint voting during covid time
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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 03:34 PM)
yes, why not? short pain rather than non stop up and down..

guna otak pls..

lockdown half cooked, until when?
who guarantee you vaccination can prevent 100% to not get infected?
who guarantee you vaccination can against covid19 mutation?
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so you sure with election, we will have a stable gov?


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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 03:34 PM)
yes, why not? short pain rather than non stop up and down..

guna otak pls..

lockdown half cooked, until when?
who guarantee you vaccination can prevent 100% to not get infected?
who guarantee you vaccination can against covid19 mutation?
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i cant wait to see GE then

after GE: 50k a day and hopefully PN win

then everyone will not shout for election. cause they are busy in ICU laugh.gif



u want to die , please go ahead, dont drag others
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 04:34 PM)
good luck for GE....

dont cry when cases hit 50k then that elected govt do another round of darurat again  laugh.gif
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How can you so sure we will not hit 50k when we continue serve by current PN without election??
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jun 11 2021, 03:31 PM)
surely the pipit bodo failed the SPM. didnt understand a word.
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so you sure with election, we will have a stable gov?
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but one thing we sure, the current one is not working

if you think it's working then you dont vote for GE lo.. aiyo

sudah tau yang teruk still want to continue use.. I dun understand
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QUOTE(lagista @ Jun 11 2021, 03:35 PM)
Why only sarahan PH when Umngok also complain like hell

U sked PH + Umngok tagteam sapu 2/3 issit
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fully welcome

so i can tag team with unknown warrior

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:36 PM)
i cant wait to see GE then

after GE: 50k a day and hopefully PN win

then everyone will not shout for election. cause they are busy in ICU  laugh.gif
u want to die , please go ahead, dont drag others
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:37 PM)
How can you so sure we will not hit 50k when we continue serve by current PN without election??
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u can try...

history already told u , sabah election = 8k

no wonder they said human never learn from history laugh.gif
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dont complain when you get burn
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Now our DG starts commenting on politics. Why dont he highlight the findings that our 2nd and 3rd wave are caused by PN decisions? Do we want to have dalurat forever as PN has no answers on how to controlthe infections?
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QUOTE(lagista @ Jun 11 2021, 03:35 PM)
Why only sarahan PH when Umngok also complain like hell

U sked PH + Umngok tagteam sapu 2/3 issit
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So you are saying PH and UMNO same standard right only want to grab power?

PH & UMNO tag team would destroy PH forever I think its a good outcome laugh.gif

Of course the pipit who infected & die in the process is just small price to pay just so Numberman has a shot to become PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jun 11 2021, 04:31 PM)
you want to amend election law?

first you need gov to propose, and if moo moo as PM reject and straight ask for dissolve of parliament, there is no turning back, unless king refuse the advise. but then, if no one can prove majority support, GE the only way
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this is a suggestion or question? Which election law need to change, cant be there is a the law say it must have public gathering kan?

Btw, you can make your own law under Darurat now. They can even take your homeland now with no question can be ask.

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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 03:37 PM)
but one thing we sure, the current one is not working

if you think it's working then you dont vote for GE lo.. aiyo

sudah tau yang teruk still want to continue use.. I dun understand
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you want to gamble with an election that 100% will amplify the covid case, hoping that outcome is favorable

that is pretty selfish isn't it
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
i welcome GE
i want to see more covid case !!!!!!
now 5k is too low
too low!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jun 11 2021, 03:39 PM)
So you are saying PH and UMNO same standard right only want to grab power?

PH & UMNO tag team would destroy PH forever I think its a good outcome  laugh.gif

Of course the pipit who infected & die in the process is just small price to pay just so Numberman has a shot to become PM
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janji rakyat mati , asalkan saya berkuasa laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 04:38 PM)
u can try...

history already told u , sabah election = 8k

no wonder they said human never learn from history laugh.gif
u want play with fire...sure... go ahead
dont complain when you get burn
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I kan already told you. Do the GE the different way.

You do not understand or pretend not to understand? Cant change your mindset?

How many case due to Raya?
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this is a suggestion or question? Which election law need to change, cant be there is a the law say it must have public gathering kan?

Btw, you can make your own law under Darurat now. They can even take your homeland now with no question can be ask.
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all law make in darurat need to be passed in parliament after darurat end i presume. that is why law pass under darurat is called emergency ordinance?


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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:41 PM)
janji rakyat mati , asalkan saya berkuasa laugh.gif
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no worry many pipit in \k willing to be the sacrifice for Numberman to fulfil his PM dream.
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:41 PM)
I kan already told you. Do the GE the different way.

You do not understand or pretend not to understand? Cant change your mindset?

How many case due to Raya?
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raya with mco already 6-7k

full GE without mco? u do the math laugh.gif



u want to kena covid, sure i welcome
just a friendly reminder, dont spread to ur friend and family laugh.gif
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Seriously though, either malaymail editor saja stir shit up,
Or dg forgot his job scope.

There is totally no reason for a health director general, in his official capacity, to know or decide anything about election nor emergency state.

Its only relevant if the question is about the pandemic situation.

Sounds like health minister really threw this guy under the bus.
Bodoh kerajaan gagal cannot help other gomen agency with press stuff.
Jkom dapat berbilion buat apa?
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DG=Bodoh sorhai! You are a fucking government servant, leave politics to the politicians.
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No choice,  need to select a more capable bunch than these backdoor idiots.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 04:42 PM)
raya with mco already 6-7k

full GE without mco? u do the math  laugh.gif
u want to kena covid, sure i welcome
just a friendly reminder, dont spread to ur friend and family  laugh.gif
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Last time MCO is like half cook MCO right. Then, it is not really due to certain occasion or festival but SOP or the way we control right? That we all hamtam half cook mco and those ppl that not comply SOP.

So, can GE be done in FMCO method? you tell us your opinion?

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:47 PM)
Last time MCO is like half cook MCO right. Then, it is not really due to certain occasion or festival but SOP or the way we control right? That we all hamtam half cook mco and those ppl that not comply SOP.

So, can GE be done in FMCO method? you tell us your opinion?
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during covid time NOW

i dont want to take risk....

we all know how easily this covid spread

never read news about 1 guy spread to whole kampung? then his whole kampung angry at him?



why want to play with fire?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 04:48 PM)
during covid time NOW

i dont want to take risk....

we all know how easily this covid spread

never read news about 1 guy spread to whole kampung? then his whole kampung angry at him?
why want to play with fire?
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:43 PM)
Seriously though, either malaymail editor saja stir shit up,
Or dg forgot his job scope.

There is totally no reason for a health director general, in his official capacity, to know or decide anything about election nor emergency state.

Its only relevant if the question is about the pandemic situation.

Sounds like health minister really threw this guy under the bus.
Bodoh kerajaan gagal cannot help other gomen agency with press stuff.
Jkom dapat berbilion buat apa?
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bro. some of the government decision, they will use KKM advice to make the decision because this is proper things to do. if u dont know what u doing, better asking correct people.

and his job scope, is related with people's health. of cos he will give advice, which save lots of people live as a doctor do.
and he just merely giving an advice, if proceed with election, more cases will go up, more people die. he is not decide anything about election. those are agong power. U READ THE NEWS OR NOT ?? bodo

i cant brain why some people why so BODO laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Tell the DG of MOH to prepare for more hospital beds for C19 paieints and more refrigerated containers for bodies.
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that time i think can just direct booking for nirvana

btw how to buy nirvana stock? sure up like glove laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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LOHRMANN ON CYBERSECURITY
Could Estonia Be the Model for Secure Online Voting?

What country does elections best? With all the focus on securing the upcoming U.S. elections, let’s take a look at elections in Estonia with Joseph Carson, a global cybersecurity expert who lives there.
September 25, 2020 • Daniel Lohrmann, Dan Lohrmann
As we head into October 2020, everyone is talking about election security from various perspectives.

Back in June, this blog explained how election security has become a top issue. Since that time, the focus and political posturing by governments, the media, cybersecurity pros and both political parties has only increased, with a special scrutiny on voting by mail.

Another Election Perspective: Estonia

But taking a big step back and putting the November 2020 presidential election aside for a moment (which is hard to do, I know), some experts are already looking around the world for the answer to the simple questions: How can we do secure voting better? Where is the best model to follow? Can we bring elections into the 21st century?

Back in early 2019, Time published an article entitled "What the U.S. Can Learn About Electronic Voting From This Tiny Eastern European Nation." Here’s how it opens: “On Sunday, when citizens of the tiny Baltic nation of Estonia go out to vote for their next parliament, many of their compatriots will have already voted — from the comfort of their own homes.

"That’s because Estonia is the world leader in electronic voting. Since 2005, Estonians have been able to cast their ballots from a computer with an Internet connection anywhere in the world. The government says 30 percent of Estonia’s population of 1.3 million people use the system, and that its simplicity helps save the country a total of 11,000 working days each election year.”


Meanwhile, VentureBeat recently added this piece to the dialog: "What Estonia could teach us about internet voting in a post-pandemic world." The article explains that “while the United States grapples with controversy over electronic voting machines and mail-in ballots, Estonia has created a remote voting system that could address many of the concerns about elections in a post-coronavirus world.

"Refined over more than 15 years, Estonia’s i-Voting system allows citizens to vote from home on their computer using a government-issued smart card. The system is currently used by 46.7% of the population, a figure that has steadily risen over the years.”

Introducing Joseph Carson from Thycotic

Back in 2017, I interviewed Joseph Carson for this blog on security metrics and failing security grades.

Fast-forward more than three years, and Carson is still with Thycotic as their chief security scientist (CSS) and advisory CISO. His background is beyond impressive in the global security industry, and he is a sought-after expert on numerous cybersecurity topics at global events.

I have been on several event panels with Joseph, and we always have a fun and fascinating conversation. He is very smart, with great stories and an ability to make complicated technology topics easy to understand. He is also a wonderful person whom I can talk to for hours on most tech, security and organization-culture issues.

So when the time came to think about voting in Estonia, there was no one better to talk to than Joseph Carson, because he currently lives there.


Dan Lohrmann (DL): Describe the journey for digital elections (voting) in Estonia over the past decade.

Joseph Carson (JC): Internet voting (aka digital elections) was first introduced back in 2005 with a mix of excited thought leaders embracing the change along with some skeptics on shifting to a digital path always finding possible reasons on why it is a bad idea. Estonia has always been thinking outside of the box and challenging the norms, although with every new technology you will always have bumps along that journey and it is how you respond that differentiates you from the pack.

Estonia’s path really transitioned the government from being a traditional government to being one that is closer to being a service provider, as it is all about providing services to the citizens. Making that service as easy as possible and inclusive of everyone is the ultimate goal.

The introduction of Internet voting was a normal addition to the ever-increasing digital services that Estonia already had, such as online tax returns, which made tax returns easy and could be completed in minutes, to online digital banking, which made transactions seamless and quick and reduced fraud. Choosing the next government officials via the Internet, however, was always going to be controversial as many other countries had skeptics on the threats from cyberattacks and security of the voting. The goal was never to make Internet voting the only option, but to provide as many options as possible to citizens to vote.

Extending voting to those that found in-person voting difficult, such as those in remote locations, those with health issues, night shift workers, busy parents to those who travel frequently, was about increasing citizen participation and getting to a true democracy that everyone knows could have an impact on their future. The foundation of the voting process was critical to the success. Estonia realized very early that digital identity, digital signature, and time and data integrity were critical components to making it all possible. The move to Internet voting brought some exciting new advantages that included the ability to change your vote multiple times — but only your last vote actually counts — along with fast, automated counting so the results are quick.

DL: What problems has Estonia overcome during this journey?

JC: Over the years, Estonia has been using encryption to secure the voting and blockchain to enable data integrity for non-repudiation, along with digital signatures to enable only authorized voters to vote. As with everything, technology is created by humans and will continue to have vulnerabilities, as Estonia has experienced a few times over the journey of Internet voting. This raised the skeptics again to push for a return to the "good old ways," which honestly was a system of control and exclusion, which is not a true democracy of delivering services to citizens.

I am originally from Belfast, and even when I was growing up, education was not an opportunity — it was all about where you were born, which for many countries is the same as for voting. In Estonia, the vulnerabilities mean a major review of the systems, and rather than removing innovation, Estonia has embraced technology and found ways forward.

Estonia was also the victim of a cyberwar back in 2007 that saw it become the target of major cyberattacks, which also identified several challenges with being a pioneer in a digital society. But again, Estonia embraced the challenges and again technology innovation was the way forward. Estonia introduced data embassies that reduce the impact and threat from cyberattacks, truly making Estonia a real digital society and e-government. This data embassy idea also was the foundation of Estonia introducing e-residency.

DL: Can anyone vote online in Estonia today? What other voting channels are possible?

JC: Not anyone can vote online in Estonia. You must be a naturalized citizen or resident, and that only determines which type of election you can vote in, such as local, parliamentary, EU elections, etc. However, a digital identity enables you to vote online, as well as use many other digital services.

Internet voting is not the only option, and citizens can continue to use postal ballots or in-person voting, but Internet voting typically represents around 30 percent of votes. However, in the current pandemic and with several major elections coming soon, the positive side is that Estonia can continue offering a safe option for citizens to vote, reducing the possibility of putting people at risk by forcing them to go to polling stations and risk their health or, even worse, death.

DL: What do you see as the major differences in voting in Estonia versus the U.S.? Are digital IDs key?

JC: The major difference in voting is that the U.S. is very decentralized, meaning it is up to each state to determine how the voting takes place. Though I do see the U.S. being decentralized as a positive, meaning it is more difficult to target via a direct hacking of the voting systems. If the U.S. were to take a similar approach as Estonia does, it would likely have to start at a state level, and again the critical foundation is both digital identities and digital signatures.

My prediction is that if the U.S. was to be a pioneer and become a true digital society, it could potentially save US$1 trillion per year by significantly reducing wasted time.

DL: You mentioned people can vote twice (or change their mind) in Estonia. How does that work?

JC: In Estonia, you can vote digitally several times up to three days prior to the election closing. But as voting is tied to your digital identity, only your last vote counts, and if you want to change your vote before the election closes, then you can also go in person and vote. But again, only the last vote cast is counted.

DL: How does Estonia anticipate and defend against hackers or others who may try to disrupt elections?

JC: Estonia has really focused on the digital society and reducing the risks from cyberattacks, though as with all nations we are facing an ever-increasing disinformation threat that at the moment is the major challenge.

DL: Where do you see Estonia going next regarding voting over the next five years?

JC: Estonia is moving forward with more digital services, including more automation, which will see autonomous transportation and AI being used to deliver more services to citizens.



Closing Comments

Recently I appeared on Mike Gruen (from Cybrary) and Joseph Carson’s “401 Access Denied” podcast, and we discussed U.S. Election Security. You can see that episode here and gain a sense of the personalities and issues:

Regardless of your political viewpoint, I urge you to get involved in helping to educate others on the election processes in your jurisdiction. Learn what’s allowed and what voting alternatives are available to stay safe during this pandemic.

Most of all, please take the time to vote in whatever manner works best for you. It is a privilege to have free and open elections
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LOHRMANN ON CYBERSECURITY
Could Estonia Be the Model for Secure Online Voting?

What country does elections best? With all the focus on securing the upcoming U.S. elections, let’s take a look at elections in Estonia with Joseph Carson, a global cybersecurity expert who lives there.
September 25, 2020 • Daniel Lohrmann, Dan Lohrmann
As we head into October 2020, everyone is talking about election security from various perspectives.

Back in June, this blog explained how election security has become a top issue. Since that time, the focus and political posturing by governments, the media, cybersecurity pros and both political parties has only increased, with a special scrutiny on voting by mail.

Another Election Perspective: Estonia

But taking a big step back and putting the November 2020 presidential election aside for a moment (which is hard to do, I know), some experts are already looking around the world for the answer to the simple questions: How can we do secure voting better? Where is the best model to follow? Can we bring elections into the 21st century? 

Back in early 2019, Time published an article entitled "What the U.S. Can Learn About Electronic Voting From This Tiny Eastern European Nation." Here’s how it opens: “On Sunday, when citizens of the tiny Baltic nation of Estonia go out to vote for their next parliament, many of their compatriots will have already voted — from the comfort of their own homes.

"That’s because Estonia is the world leader in electronic voting. Since 2005, Estonians have been able to cast their ballots from a computer with an Internet connection anywhere in the world. The government says 30 percent of Estonia’s population of 1.3 million people use the system, and that its simplicity helps save the country a total of 11,000 working days each election year.”
Meanwhile, VentureBeat recently added this piece to the dialog: "What Estonia could teach us about internet voting in a post-pandemic world." The article explains that “while the United States grapples with controversy over electronic voting machines and mail-in ballots, Estonia has created a remote voting system that could address many of the concerns about elections in a post-coronavirus world.

"Refined over more than 15 years, Estonia’s i-Voting system allows citizens to vote from home on their computer using a government-issued smart card. The system is currently used by 46.7% of the population, a figure that has steadily risen over the years.”

Introducing Joseph Carson from Thycotic

Back in 2017, I interviewed Joseph Carson for this blog on security metrics and failing security grades.

Fast-forward more than three years, and Carson is still with Thycotic as their chief security scientist (CSS) and advisory CISO. His background is beyond impressive in the global security industry, and he is a sought-after expert on numerous cybersecurity topics at global events. 

I have been on several event panels with Joseph, and we always have a fun and fascinating conversation. He is very smart, with great stories and an ability to make complicated technology topics easy to understand. He is also a wonderful person whom I can talk to for hours on most tech, security and organization-culture issues.

So when the time came to think about voting in Estonia, there was no one better to talk to than Joseph Carson, because he currently lives there.
Dan Lohrmann (DL): Describe the journey for digital elections (voting) in Estonia over the past decade.

Joseph Carson (JC): Internet voting (aka digital elections) was first introduced back in 2005 with a mix of excited thought leaders embracing the change along with some skeptics on shifting to a digital path always finding possible reasons on why it is a bad idea. Estonia has always been thinking outside of the box and challenging the norms, although with every new technology you will always have bumps along that journey and it is how you respond that differentiates you from the pack. 

Estonia’s path really transitioned the government from being a traditional government to being one that is closer to being a service provider, as it is all about providing services to the citizens. Making that service as easy as possible and inclusive of everyone is the ultimate goal. 

The introduction of Internet voting was a normal addition to the ever-increasing digital services that Estonia already had, such as online tax returns, which made tax returns easy and could be completed in minutes, to online digital banking, which made transactions seamless and quick and reduced fraud. Choosing the next government officials via the Internet, however, was always going to be controversial as many other countries had skeptics on the threats from cyberattacks and security of the voting. The goal was never to make Internet voting the only option, but to provide as many options as possible to citizens to vote.

Extending voting to those that found in-person voting difficult, such as those in remote locations, those with health issues, night shift workers, busy parents to those who travel frequently, was about increasing citizen participation and getting to a true democracy that everyone knows could have an impact on their future. The foundation of the voting process was critical to the success. Estonia realized very early that digital identity, digital signature, and time and data integrity were critical components to making it all possible. The move to Internet voting brought some exciting new advantages that included the ability to change your vote multiple times — but only your last vote actually counts — along with fast, automated counting so the results are quick. 

DL: What problems has Estonia overcome during this journey?

JC: Over the years, Estonia has been using encryption to secure the voting and blockchain to enable data integrity for non-repudiation, along with digital signatures to enable only authorized voters to vote. As with everything, technology is created by humans and will continue to have vulnerabilities, as Estonia has experienced a few times over the journey of Internet voting. This raised the skeptics again to push for a return to the "good old ways," which honestly was a system of control and exclusion, which is not a true democracy of delivering services to citizens. 

I am originally from Belfast, and even when I was growing up, education was not an opportunity — it was all about where you were born, which for many countries is the same as for voting. In Estonia, the vulnerabilities mean a major review of the systems, and rather than removing innovation, Estonia has embraced technology and found ways forward. 

Estonia was also the victim of a cyberwar back in 2007 that saw it become the target of major cyberattacks, which also identified several challenges with being a pioneer in a digital society. But again, Estonia embraced the challenges and again technology innovation was the way forward. Estonia introduced data embassies that reduce the impact and threat from cyberattacks, truly making Estonia a real digital society and e-government. This data embassy idea also was the foundation of Estonia introducing e-residency. 

DL: Can anyone vote online in Estonia today? What other voting channels are possible?

JC: Not anyone can vote online in Estonia. You must be a naturalized citizen or resident, and that only determines which type of election you can vote in, such as local, parliamentary, EU elections, etc. However, a digital identity enables you to vote online, as well as use many other digital services.

Internet voting is not the only option, and citizens can continue to use postal ballots or in-person voting, but Internet voting typically represents around 30 percent of votes. However, in the current pandemic and with several major elections coming soon, the positive side is that Estonia can continue offering a safe option for citizens to vote, reducing the possibility of putting people at risk by forcing them to go to polling stations and risk their health or, even worse, death.   

DL: What do you see as the major differences in voting in Estonia versus the U.S.? Are digital IDs key?

JC: The major difference in voting is that the U.S. is very decentralized, meaning it is up to each state to determine how the voting takes place.  Though I do see the U.S. being decentralized as a positive, meaning it is more difficult to target via a direct hacking of the voting systems. If the U.S. were to take a similar approach as Estonia does, it would likely have to start at a state level, and again the critical foundation is both digital identities and digital signatures. 

My prediction is that if the U.S. was to be a pioneer and become a true digital society, it could potentially save US$1 trillion per year by significantly reducing wasted time.

DL: You mentioned people can vote twice (or change their mind) in Estonia. How does that work?

JC: In Estonia, you can vote digitally several times up to three days prior to the election closing. But as voting is tied to your digital identity, only your last vote counts, and if you want to change your vote before the election closes, then you can also go in person and vote. But again, only the last vote cast is counted.

DL: How does Estonia anticipate and defend against hackers or others who may try to disrupt elections?

JC: Estonia has really focused on the digital society and reducing the risks from cyberattacks, though as with all nations we are facing an ever-increasing disinformation threat that at the moment is the major challenge.

DL: Where do you see Estonia going next regarding voting over the next five years?

JC: Estonia is moving forward with more digital services, including more automation, which will see autonomous transportation and AI being used to deliver more services to citizens.



Closing Comments

Recently I appeared on Mike Gruen (from Cybrary) and Joseph Carson’s “401 Access Denied” podcast, and we discussed U.S. Election Security. You can see that episode here and gain a sense of the personalities and issues:

Regardless of your political viewpoint, I urge you to get involved in helping to educate others on the election processes in your jurisdiction. Learn what’s allowed and what voting alternatives are available to stay safe during this pandemic.

Most of all, please take the time to vote in whatever manner works best for you. It is a privilege to have free and open elections
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Spring will surely come after winter! Law of nature!  cool2.gif

I favour e-voting! Dont try how we know wont work? Other countries have tried....and no complains whistling.gif

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Could Estonia Be the Model for Secure Online Voting?

What country does elections best? With all the focus on securing the upcoming U.S. elections, let’s take a look at elections in Estonia with Joseph Carson, a global cybersecurity expert who lives there.
September 25, 2020 • Daniel Lohrmann, Dan Lohrmann
As we head into October 2020, everyone is talking about election security from various perspectives.

Back in June, this blog explained how election security has become a top issue. Since that time, the focus and political posturing by governments, the media, cybersecurity pros and both political parties has only increased, with a special scrutiny on voting by mail.

Another Election Perspective: Estonia

But taking a big step back and putting the November 2020 presidential election aside for a moment (which is hard to do, I know), some experts are already looking around the world for the answer to the simple questions: How can we do secure voting better? Where is the best model to follow? Can we bring elections into the 21st century? 

Back in early 2019, Time published an article entitled "What the U.S. Can Learn About Electronic Voting From This Tiny Eastern European Nation." Here’s how it opens: “On Sunday, when citizens of the tiny Baltic nation of Estonia go out to vote for their next parliament, many of their compatriots will have already voted — from the comfort of their own homes.

"That’s because Estonia is the world leader in electronic voting. Since 2005, Estonians have been able to cast their ballots from a computer with an Internet connection anywhere in the world. The government says 30 percent of Estonia’s population of 1.3 million people use the system, and that its simplicity helps save the country a total of 11,000 working days each election year.”
Meanwhile, VentureBeat recently added this piece to the dialog: "What Estonia could teach us about internet voting in a post-pandemic world." The article explains that “while the United States grapples with controversy over electronic voting machines and mail-in ballots, Estonia has created a remote voting system that could address many of the concerns about elections in a post-coronavirus world.

"Refined over more than 15 years, Estonia’s i-Voting system allows citizens to vote from home on their computer using a government-issued smart card. The system is currently used by 46.7% of the population, a figure that has steadily risen over the years.”

Introducing Joseph Carson from Thycotic

Back in 2017, I interviewed Joseph Carson for this blog on security metrics and failing security grades.

Fast-forward more than three years, and Carson is still with Thycotic as their chief security scientist (CSS) and advisory CISO. His background is beyond impressive in the global security industry, and he is a sought-after expert on numerous cybersecurity topics at global events. 

I have been on several event panels with Joseph, and we always have a fun and fascinating conversation. He is very smart, with great stories and an ability to make complicated technology topics easy to understand. He is also a wonderful person whom I can talk to for hours on most tech, security and organization-culture issues.

So when the time came to think about voting in Estonia, there was no one better to talk to than Joseph Carson, because he currently lives there.
Dan Lohrmann (DL): Describe the journey for digital elections (voting) in Estonia over the past decade.

Joseph Carson (JC): Internet voting (aka digital elections) was first introduced back in 2005 with a mix of excited thought leaders embracing the change along with some skeptics on shifting to a digital path always finding possible reasons on why it is a bad idea. Estonia has always been thinking outside of the box and challenging the norms, although with every new technology you will always have bumps along that journey and it is how you respond that differentiates you from the pack. 

Estonia’s path really transitioned the government from being a traditional government to being one that is closer to being a service provider, as it is all about providing services to the citizens. Making that service as easy as possible and inclusive of everyone is the ultimate goal. 

The introduction of Internet voting was a normal addition to the ever-increasing digital services that Estonia already had, such as online tax returns, which made tax returns easy and could be completed in minutes, to online digital banking, which made transactions seamless and quick and reduced fraud. Choosing the next government officials via the Internet, however, was always going to be controversial as many other countries had skeptics on the threats from cyberattacks and security of the voting. The goal was never to make Internet voting the only option, but to provide as many options as possible to citizens to vote.

Extending voting to those that found in-person voting difficult, such as those in remote locations, those with health issues, night shift workers, busy parents to those who travel frequently, was about increasing citizen participation and getting to a true democracy that everyone knows could have an impact on their future. The foundation of the voting process was critical to the success. Estonia realized very early that digital identity, digital signature, and time and data integrity were critical components to making it all possible. The move to Internet voting brought some exciting new advantages that included the ability to change your vote multiple times — but only your last vote actually counts — along with fast, automated counting so the results are quick. 

DL: What problems has Estonia overcome during this journey?

JC: Over the years, Estonia has been using encryption to secure the voting and blockchain to enable data integrity for non-repudiation, along with digital signatures to enable only authorized voters to vote. As with everything, technology is created by humans and will continue to have vulnerabilities, as Estonia has experienced a few times over the journey of Internet voting. This raised the skeptics again to push for a return to the "good old ways," which honestly was a system of control and exclusion, which is not a true democracy of delivering services to citizens. 

I am originally from Belfast, and even when I was growing up, education was not an opportunity — it was all about where you were born, which for many countries is the same as for voting. In Estonia, the vulnerabilities mean a major review of the systems, and rather than removing innovation, Estonia has embraced technology and found ways forward. 

Estonia was also the victim of a cyberwar back in 2007 that saw it become the target of major cyberattacks, which also identified several challenges with being a pioneer in a digital society. But again, Estonia embraced the challenges and again technology innovation was the way forward. Estonia introduced data embassies that reduce the impact and threat from cyberattacks, truly making Estonia a real digital society and e-government. This data embassy idea also was the foundation of Estonia introducing e-residency. 

DL: Can anyone vote online in Estonia today? What other voting channels are possible?

JC: Not anyone can vote online in Estonia. You must be a naturalized citizen or resident, and that only determines which type of election you can vote in, such as local, parliamentary, EU elections, etc. However, a digital identity enables you to vote online, as well as use many other digital services.

Internet voting is not the only option, and citizens can continue to use postal ballots or in-person voting, but Internet voting typically represents around 30 percent of votes. However, in the current pandemic and with several major elections coming soon, the positive side is that Estonia can continue offering a safe option for citizens to vote, reducing the possibility of putting people at risk by forcing them to go to polling stations and risk their health or, even worse, death.   

DL: What do you see as the major differences in voting in Estonia versus the U.S.? Are digital IDs key?

JC: The major difference in voting is that the U.S. is very decentralized, meaning it is up to each state to determine how the voting takes place.  Though I do see the U.S. being decentralized as a positive, meaning it is more difficult to target via a direct hacking of the voting systems. If the U.S. were to take a similar approach as Estonia does, it would likely have to start at a state level, and again the critical foundation is both digital identities and digital signatures. 

My prediction is that if the U.S. was to be a pioneer and become a true digital society, it could potentially save US$1 trillion per year by significantly reducing wasted time.

DL: You mentioned people can vote twice (or change their mind) in Estonia. How does that work?

JC: In Estonia, you can vote digitally several times up to three days prior to the election closing. But as voting is tied to your digital identity, only your last vote counts, and if you want to change your vote before the election closes, then you can also go in person and vote. But again, only the last vote cast is counted.

DL: How does Estonia anticipate and defend against hackers or others who may try to disrupt elections?

JC: Estonia has really focused on the digital society and reducing the risks from cyberattacks, though as with all nations we are facing an ever-increasing disinformation threat that at the moment is the major challenge.

DL: Where do you see Estonia going next regarding voting over the next five years?

JC: Estonia is moving forward with more digital services, including more automation, which will see autonomous transportation and AI being used to deliver more services to citizens.



Closing Comments

Recently I appeared on Mike Gruen (from Cybrary) and Joseph Carson’s “401 Access Denied” podcast, and we discussed U.S. Election Security. You can see that episode here and gain a sense of the personalities and issues:

Regardless of your political viewpoint, I urge you to get involved in helping to educate others on the election processes in your jurisdiction. Learn what’s allowed and what voting alternatives are available to stay safe during this pandemic.

Most of all, please take the time to vote in whatever manner works best for you. It is a privilege to have free and open elections
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Tun Mahathir suggested to Agung about forming an interim government just like the one after 513 yesterday. The interim government will run the country until the Covid 19 is contained and the next election can be held then.
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so how you suppose to amend election law now?

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What does the present law says? Need to come in person? Law cannot be amended? For goodness sake the year now is 2021!!! bruce.gif
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Nah sos: https://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-c...ine-voting.html
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jun 11 2021, 03:47 PM)
Last time MCO is like half cook MCO right. Then, it is not really due to certain occasion or festival but SOP or the way we control right? That we all hamtam half cook mco and those ppl that not comply SOP.

So, can GE be done in FMCO method? you tell us your opinion?
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see the stats ur self
when PRU sabah, then when raya or any occasion/festival.
whatever SOP is, does the cases go up or down ?

and u want the cases go up or down ?
u want ur parents live happily or die from covid19

the formula is easy
more people go out > easily spread the virus > more cases going up > more cases in ICU that hospital cant handle > more death
we can only stop this once most of the population vaccinated.
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What does the present law says? Need to come in person? Law cannot be amended? For goodness sake the year now is 2021!!!  bruce.gif
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well, i suppose you need to have parliament in session for law to pass, and the amendment bill need to be proposed by gov. if gov is unwilling, how to table the bill?


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So you are saying PH and UMNO same standard right only want to grab power?

PH & UMNO tag team would destroy PH forever I think its a good outcome  laugh.gif

Of course the pipit who infected & die in the process is just small price to pay just so Numberman has a shot to become PM
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If Umno n DAP PKR kawtim tagteam new govt n rule for next 50 years, i will run nekkid KLCC on 11 Jun 2071

Wanna join me place ur bets ??
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What does the present law says? Need to come in person? Law cannot be amended? For goodness sake the year now is 2021!!!  bruce.gif
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you need to amend CONSTITUTION duh...........

and how safe is E-voting?
what about those S&S without internet or elder folks who are not IT savy? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lagista @ Jun 11 2021, 03:56 PM)
If Umno n DAP PKR kawtim tagteam new govt n rule for next 50 years, i will run nekkid KLCC on 11 Jun 2071

Wanna join me place ur bets ??
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Jun 11 2021, 02:31 PM)
Sos : https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...-lifted/1981312
Sekian. Brace brace brace for impact. Ni upah :

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Sila bersurai secara aman dan teratur.
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Konon e gov, e economy, e wallet e e e e... try la e voting! I Hate Q-ing up at voting stations! Also think of Raining days, flooding days, citizens who work overseas. ... ? whistling.gif How many lost votes?
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:07 PM)
numberman supporter will tell you everything can be sacrificed for numberman to be PM
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The thing is, even with election, numberman would not become PM. sweat.gif
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The thing is, even with election, numberman would not become PM. sweat.gif
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Is Sarawak state election and some by election. Not GE.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:40 PM)
you want to gamble with an election that 100% will amplify the covid case, hoping that outcome is favorable

that is pretty selfish isn't it
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definitely, this gov need to be change.

if you mind your health, then you can stay inside home as much as possible and don't get out.

Otherwise with current gov way of working like making show.. how even given full authority + daurat yet the situation get much worst.. I dun understand

I only can take it as they failed and inexperience being as a gov, so change is necessary yo..

After GE then full lockdown again, good thumbup.gif


Sad to see this gov is so terrible weak in making firm decision, sedikit u-turn, then u-turn again and u-turn non stop rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
i welcome GE
i want to see more covid case !!!!!!
now 5k is too low
too low!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Vaccine kan ade ?
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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 04:05 PM)
definitely, this gov need to be change.

if you mind your health, then you can stay inside home as much as possible and don't get out.

Otherwise with current gov way of working like making show.. how even given full authority + daurat yet the situation get much worst.. I dun understand

I only can take it as they failed and inexperience being as a gov, so change is necessary yo..

After GE then full lockdown again, good  thumbup.gif
Sad to see this gov is so terrible weak in making firm decision, sedikit u-turn, then u-turn again and u-turn non stop  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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As much as I hate the backdoor govt, cannot have election now. Later sabah 2.0.

Moo moo is lucky
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Jun 11 2021, 04:04 PM)
Is Sarawak state election and some by election. Not GE.
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DG is talking about something certain, which is Sarawak state election & by election.

But we do all know, GE is imminent once the parliament is opened.
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you need to amend CONSTITUTION duh...........

and how safe is E-voting?
what about those S&S without internet or elder folks who are not IT savy? hmm.gif
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Change la! Cast in stone ka tu constitution? e voting now secured by blockchain security ! Only weakness is u not citizens with smartcard/MyKad u cant vote... ops cant cheat pulak ! 🤭

Those without internet access can go polling stations, votes can be registered via card readers there. No need physical counting of votes also. Once closed, results terus out! All elektronik! bruce.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:51 PM)
bagus la kalau covid naik sampai 20k  laugh.gif
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200 also no ball to buka parlimen. Plus all sudah cucuk.
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bro. some of the government decision, they will use KKM advice to make the decision because this is proper things to do. if u dont know what u doing, better asking correct people.

and his job scope, is related with people's health. of cos he will give advice, which save lots of people live as a doctor do.
and he just merely giving an advice, if proceed with election, more cases will go up, more people die. he is not decide anything about election. those are agong power. U READ THE NEWS OR NOT ?? bodo

i cant brain why some people why so BODO  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Indeed.
Election doesn't fall under health ministry.
The emergency ordinance doesnt directly fall under health ministry either.

Im not blaming dg for what he said.
The way he answered is neutral, and right enough.

The concern is why is this question is asked in such way and directed to dg like he, a non democratically elected government servant, have the power to call off a democratic process.
At least, ask the minister.

Im questioning the competency of the reporter, the editor, and the government for allowing dg to be exposed to such unnecessary pr risk.

If the government decided not to run the election after lifting the emergency state by using "health concern", this guy will kena.
If another outbreak after ge, pun dia kena.

Enough la being the black sheep.

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jun 11 2021, 04:08 PM)
DG is talking about something certain, which is Sarawak state election & by election.

But we do all know, GE is imminent once the parliament is opened.
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Who is we? You can see the future? I doubt GE will happen this year with or without parliament. Some people just kecut bola too easily. laugh.gif
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mana blockchain voting system
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Jun 11 2021, 04:12 PM)
Who is we? You can see the future? I doubt GE will happen this year with or without parliament. Some people just kecut bola too easily. laugh.gif
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As if that Fart Harun will allow a vote of no confidence. laugh.gif
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mana blockchain voting system
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With blockchain, cant cheat! Undi hantu terus lesap... not sure acceptable.. whistling.gif
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well, at least he get to try. that is the most important thing
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Kan dah banyak kali try but failed. Tak cukup lg ke? hmm.gif
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Perhaps can darurat only for the places that requires election ?
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Spring will surely come after winter! Law of nature!  cool2.gif

I favour e-voting! Dont try how we know wont work? Other countries have tried....and no complains whistling.gif

LOHRMANN ON CYBERSECURITY
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Inb4 same excuses use about online vaccination registration.
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gila. dah la voting venue usually in a tight enclosed spaces
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jun 11 2021, 04:09 PM)
Change la! Cast in stone ka tu constitution?  e voting now secured by blockchain security ! Only weakness is u not citizens with smartcard/MyKad u cant vote... ops cant cheat pulak ! 🤭

Those without internet access can go polling stations, votes can be registered via card readers there. No need physical counting of votes also. Once closed, results terus out! All elektronik! bruce.gif
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jun 11 2021, 04:00 PM)
Konon e gov, e economy, e wallet e e e e... try la e voting! I Hate Q-ing up at voting stations! Also think  of Raining days, flooding days, citizens who work overseas. ... ?  whistling.gif  How many lost votes?
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everyone will stuck with i'm not a robot.
Then you know who will win the election.
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Just do ge. Those who wants to vote can go out.

Die also faster.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 02:39 PM)
i want see india v2 here

biar rakyat mati asalkan kita berkuasa

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There were a conversation that covid helps biden wins, as most of the casualty are older people in rural state that tends to be conservative.

Hmmm....
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QUOTE(Nicklly @ Jun 11 2021, 04:05 PM)
definitely, this gov need to be change.

if you mind your health, then you can stay inside home as much as possible and don't get out.

Otherwise with current gov way of working like making show.. how even given full authority + daurat yet the situation get much worst.. I dun understand

I only can take it as they failed and inexperience being as a gov, so change is necessary yo..

After GE then full lockdown again, good  thumbup.gif
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I think because even with full power, they still need to think for time after they have no more full power.

Imagine they never allowed bazaar in the 1st place, even it will help reduce Covid case, it will make votes angry with them. So cannot close bazaar until it's too late.

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QUOTE(king99 @ Jun 11 2021, 08:15 PM)
I think because even with full power, they still need to think for time after they have no more full power.

Imagine they never allowed bazaar in the 1st place, even it will help reduce Covid case, it will make votes angry with them. So cannot close bazaar until it's too late.
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Bazaar was never angry issue.
They didn't have it in 2020.
The issue was local council not making money from selling the lots. whistling.gif

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Morons...at times like this should be working together with other people diplomatically and mature...yet, think about their idiot votes...go die la , burn in hell all this morons.
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Issue Texas jiken more critical.

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Didn't expect this coming from DG

It is like suddenly my HR says we can't increase the sales price or the customer will leave
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No wonder lah
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apparently this fcker mssenger dont want cobis to end no wonder must be plotting something with these gov fcking useless failure
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QUOTE(wangpr @ Jun 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
Can do online voting......
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Hell no..data center power trip many times.....unauthorized db changes made etc ....cannot trust people with votes if they can manipulate paper votes ...digital votes will be easy peasy
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jun 11 2021, 08:33 PM)
Didn't expect this coming from DG

It is like suddenly my HR says we can't increase the sales price or the customer will leave
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Dg boring already with party hoppers
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In another words.

That’s why we didn’t do anything so that there’ll be excuse to extend the emergency.

This time the rakyat will beg us to not do election.

Nampak tak permainan dia? Kek.
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QUOTE(king99 @ Jun 11 2021, 08:15 PM)
I think because even with full power, they still need to think for time after they have no more full power.

Imagine they never allowed bazaar in the 1st place, even it will help reduce Covid case, it will make votes angry with them. So cannot close bazaar until it's too late.
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that is why the current gov must change..

anyhow they will lose and their bad name will be remember for long long time..

genuine vote will definitely vote them down smile.gif
others kind of vote then hard to say (some because of money,power & own agenda) hahahahah


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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 11 2021, 03:37 PM)
i fully welcome PH+UMNO

fully welcome

so i can tag team with unknown warrior

SYUKURRRRRRRRRRR
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You really need to grow up.

somehow I see your mentality is like terbantut stuck on politic 24/7.

as if it's your "ONLY" life.

You don't have families, friends or hobbies ka?
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Just vaccinate enough population. Then can consider.
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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Jun 11 2021, 08:42 PM)
apparently this fcker mssenger dont want cobis to end no wonder must be plotting something with these gov fcking useless failure
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As always, if you are confident of having a plastic surgeon to handle task of a virologist, you might as well advice covid positive people to just go to clinic instead of hospital
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2021, 09:20 AM)
You really need to grow up.

somehow I see your mentality is like terbantut stuck on politic 24/7.

as if it's your "ONLY" life.

You don't have families, friends or hobbies ka?
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said the one who open more politic thread then me...........

TOPKEK LA U laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You don't have families, friends or hobbies ka? laugh.gif

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Texas Jiken forever > stupid shit Kepci
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QUOTE(Dezs @ Jun 12 2021, 12:29 PM)
Texas Jiken forever > stupid shit Kepci
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jollybee > all laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 12 2021, 12:30 PM)
jollybee > all  laugh.gif
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ayam tot that stupid bee already extinct for many years or sth..
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Can be done if compliance and enforcement is high. Why not just allow postal voters?
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QUOTE(Dezs @ Jun 12 2021, 12:32 PM)
ayam tot that stupid bee already extinct for many years or sth..
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why? u have bad experience on the bee? hmm.gif hmm.gif
so far ok leh
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where were we before darurat?....

yeah...we seem to be in better state....

to say, without darurat in place...it might go WORSE....there is NO data to even state that.
that is pure assumption.

to say, it is political driven agenda....majority people would agree.

so?...
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 12 2021, 12:33 PM)
why? u have bad experience on the bee?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
so far ok leh
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nampak waktu kecik, lepas tu tak pernah nampak dah.. ingat dah pokgai

never ate there tho
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QUOTE(Dezs @ Jun 12 2021, 12:34 PM)
nampak waktu kecik, lepas tu tak pernah nampak dah.. ingat dah pokgai

never ate there tho
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i think sabah ada

bee fried chicken taste ok leh

thou KFC better la
but kfc quality not consistent doh.gif doh.gif

worst is MCD !!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 12 2021, 12:24 PM)
said the one who open more politic thread then me...........

TOPKEK LA U  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
You don't have families, friends or hobbies ka? laugh.gif
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That is why what I say about you is correct.

Are all of them about politic?

Meet with Agong is politic?

Financial Plight of B40 is about politic?

Technology issue is about politic?

Lockdown issue is about politic?


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2021, 12:36 PM)
That is why what I say about you is correct.

Are all of them about politic?

Meet with Agong is politic?

Financial Plight of B40 is about politic?

Technology issue is  about politic?

Lockdown issue is about politic?
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Meet with Agong is politic? ya not politic...that is IT / environment issue laugh.gif


whatever suits u bro laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 12 2021, 12:39 PM)
Meet with Agong is politic? ya not politic...that is IT / environment issue  laugh.gif
whatever suits u bro  laugh.gif
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Meet Agong due to escalating pandemic Issue.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2021, 12:41 PM)
Meet Agong due to escalating pandemic Issue.
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and WHO meet agong?

Diva AA is it?
or Nicold David? laugh.gif

i think is namewee laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 12 2021, 12:42 PM)
and WHO meet agong?

Diva AA is it?
or Nicold David?  laugh.gif

i think is namewee  laugh.gif
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The meeting is about politic ka? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2021, 12:42 PM)
The meeting is about politic ka?  rolleyes.gif
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politician meeting not about politic

ya...i think they all talk about graphic card price, euro 2021 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 12 2021, 12:43 PM)
politician meeting not about politic

ya...i think they all talk about graphic card price, euro 2021  laugh.gif
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Last I check this is Agong's meeting not politican's meeting. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jun 11 2021, 02:41 PM)
As a DG, cant he just focus on his work?
These sort of remark leave it to the politician?
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when there is a public health risk, it is his job

imo he learnt from his prev mistake.. he thought ppl would follow SOP during Sabah elections and wont affect cases.. but that wasn't the case.. if sarawak election and other by-elections go forward once Emergency is lifted.. will it be lke Saabh state elections? so I think that's what he is worried abouf

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jollybee > all  laugh.gif
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You take that back, farking heretic. You take that back NOW.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 12 2021, 12:45 PM)
Last I check this is Agong's meeting not politican's meeting.  rolleyes.gif
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anything that suits u bro
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You take that back, farking heretic. You take that back NOW.
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belum cuba belum tahu

sekali cuba, tiap tiap harimau brows.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jun 12 2021, 12:33 PM)
where were we before darurat?....

yeah...we seem to be in better state....

to say, without darurat in place...it might go WORSE....there is NO data to even state that.
that is pure assumption.

to say, it is political driven agenda....majority people would agree.

so?...
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But in /k still loads of sohigh that agree with this not so clever DG. brows.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 12 2021, 01:36 PM)
belum cuba belum tahu

sekali cuba, tiap tiap harimau brows.gif  laugh.gif
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Back to hell from whence you came, demon, and take your blasphemous whispers with you!
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Spread few days for voting no need 1 day gaudim. This will reduce the crowd. Allow more postal votes like US. Their election also happens during pandemic.
DG macam dah pick side.
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Jun 12 2021, 02:01 PM)
Spread few days for voting no need 1 day gaudim. This will reduce the crowd. Allow more postal votes like US. Their election also happens during pandemic.
DG macam dah pick side.
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Do we have the legal framework to have such an election and the facilities to prevent mass voter fraud?
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Undi18 also cant implement. So much excuse for a gov.
Online voting also cannot. Zzzz
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Jun 12 2021, 02:02 PM)
Do we have the legal framework to have such an election and the facilities to prevent mass voter fraud?
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Just work it out. Malaysia is best in the world to setup committee. Sort it out in the Parliament.
Or just simply copy US way.
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Thin out the crowd also good.

But it seems alot of educated people will give up voting if that happens.

And majority vote will go back to masses and not the mid & upper class.but knowing malaysia politics.. i really dont care who is gov now.

Katak will come again and when u think u won. U lost.


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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 12 2021, 01:35 PM)
anything that suits u bro
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It's true, This round Agong's meeting is more on Pandemic.

So what you accuse is just main tembak for the sake of it.

That is why I say, you got nothing better else to do ah in your life?
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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jun 12 2021, 12:33 PM)
where were we before darurat?....

yeah...we seem to be in better state....

to say, without darurat in place...it might go WORSE....there is NO data to even state that.
that is pure assumption.

to say, it is political driven agenda....majority people would agree.

so?...
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I wonder who would dare say otherwise?

in b4 Jkom.

 

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