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post Jun 10 2021, 08:58 PM, updated 2 months ago

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Here we go again esok news around msia newspaper n websites n Facebooks

What advice /k have for our char siews who just finished SPM with A A
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jun 10 2021, 08:58 PM)
Here we go again esok news around msia newspaper n websites n Facebooks

What advice /k have for our char siews who just finished SPM with A A
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Study 11 years in school
Go pre u 2 years
4-6 years med school
2 years houseman

Still earn less than show boobs and pussy on onlyfans after SPM at 18
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post Jun 10 2021, 09:05 PM

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i really wanna see how many will say they wanna be doctor this year? laugh.gif

they say want also their parents won't let them
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These are the generations that will save Malaysia.
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Any idea how many of these 20 A1 SPM top scorers actually became successful in life?
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 10 2021, 09:02 PM)
Study 11 years in school
Go pre u 2 years
4-6 years med school
2 years houseman

Still earn less than show boobs and pussy on onlyfans after SPM at 18
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We ain't about making money

We are saving livesss

"Loktor"
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post Jun 10 2021, 09:10 PM

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no need become doctors la, open foodstalls can make more money.
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why are them charsiew?

not fail the test more charsiew?

inb4 high school dropout become bill gate. no, bill gate don't dropout from high schoool, and there is only one bill gate, other dropout work for walmart
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jun 10 2021, 09:11 PM)
why are them charsiew?

not fail the test more charsiew?

inb4 high school dropout become bill gate. no, bill gate don't dropout from high schoool, and there is only one bill gate, other dropout work for walmart
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bill gates dropout bcoz he's too good for school
rempits and ahbengs dropout bcoz school's too good for them
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 10 2021, 09:13 PM)
bill gates dropout bcoz he's too good for school
rempits and ahbengs dropout bcoz school's too good for them
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post Jun 10 2021, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:09 PM)
Any idea how many of these 20 A1 SPM top scorers actually became successful in life?
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NASA scientists for sure

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post Jun 10 2021, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:09 PM)
Any idea how many of these 20 A1 SPM top scorers actually became successful in life?
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my cousin was one of those top scorers A+++ back then 12+years ago iirc.

Got an insane scholarship , studied in the states at an ivy league school , worked for some big MNC in the states and is now currently residing at our neighbor country. Dude was literally dubbed the child prodigy of our 'family' .

I wouldn't call him super successful though but still its a great achievement nevertheless. Meanwhile I have others who couldn't match him academically but is doing pretty much the same / better than him.

Child prodigy failed to get a greencard in the states however my own siblings and other cousins did . Sucked for him though.

Was he successful? I don't know , depends on your own definition of success . But did he do better than most? Definitely.

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Do not become a doctor. Its not worth it
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QUOTE(lagista @ Jun 10 2021, 09:16 PM)
NASA scientists for sure

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Not that I am aware of.

Most ended up having a very ordinary middle class lives. Only 1 or 2 sometimes none per year will go on to achieve greatness and make a name for themselves.

Rope learning education system is very outdated and rewards memorizing. This type of skill set doesn’t translate well in the real world.
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:09 PM)
Any idea how many of these 20 A1 SPM top scorers actually became successful in life?
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Those who fail become their bosses or PM of the country and songlap rakyat money.

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Yeah here we go again. Another round of chasiu who'll complain to newspapers they cannot enter medic courses. Every fuckin year
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 10 2021, 09:13 PM)
bill gates dropout bcoz he's too good for school
rempits and ahbengs dropout bcoz school's too good for them
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True. thumbsup.gif
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Owai ts boomer cant paid their own kids scholarship. No money dont breed la charsiew. Menyusahkan your anak only
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 10 2021, 09:02 PM)
Study 11 years in school
Go pre u 2 years
4-6 years med school
2 years houseman

Still earn less than show boobs and pussy on onlyfans after SPM at 18
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the unfortunate reality and many don't see this as a concern but eventually everyone needs a GOOD doctor as they age (no matter how rich)

looking at the current situation, i am seeing future generations in grave trouble as people are going away from professional jobs to be in quick fix jobs instead. while these quick fix jobs pays well, future quality progress and advances is not guaranteed (global issue, not only malaysia)
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jun 10 2021, 09:23 PM)
Those who fail become their bosses or PM of the country and songlap rakyat money.
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Lol. Most of us didn’t do well in a rope learning environment that rewards memorizing or having a tuition center that is able to “spot” the questions that will be coming out in the exam.

The problem with this is that the real world is more than just memorizing the whole book.

Actually, most of the greatest inventors do badly in memory tests but excel in thinking outside the box.
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:28 PM)
Lol. Most of us didn’t do well in a rope learning environment that rewards memorizing or having a tuition center that is able to “spot” the questions that will be coming out in the exam.

The problem with this is that the real world is more than just memorizing the whole book.

Actually, most of the greatest inventors do badly in memory tests but excel in thinking outside the box.
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The people in senior management unfortunately are both good in memory and thinking.

At least those that i faced. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:30 PM)
The people in senior management unfortunately are both good in memory and thinking.

At least those that i faced. laugh.gif
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But they usually die as unknowns. Nobody remembers who is the CIO of a company but everyone knows who is the chairman.

Meaningful contributions to society trumps money any day.
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if straight A`s don want become loktor. then who gonna becum loktor. rempit boy?? stupid TS

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:30 PM)
The people in senior management unfortunately are both good in memory and thinking.

At least those that i faced. laugh.gif
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Probably right there however the CEOs I worked with, don’t know shit and want ass kissers instead. Usually good senior managers leave to do own business or higher positions.

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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:33 PM)
But they usually die as unknowns. Nobody remembers who is the CIO of a company but everyone knows who is the chairman.

Meaningful contributions to society trumps money any day.
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Why not both? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jun 10 2021, 08:58 PM)
Here we go again esok news around msia newspaper n websites n Facebooks

What advice /k have for our char siews who just finished SPM with A A
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Don't waste your time in MLM's ,

study hard, fight to get into corporate ladder, or go overseas to broaden your world view

at the end of the day , white collar job ain't that bad.

not everybody dedikasi to open big business on the fly
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Stop dreaming of being a Loktot.. lu can becum Lentist for much better working hour and better pay. Wut u tokok lagi? Apply now n let the next generation enjoy the cheap fee for doing tooth braces.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 10 2021, 09:02 PM)
Study 11 years in school
Go pre u 2 years
4-6 years med school
2 years houseman

Still earn less than show boobs and pussy on onlyfans after SPM at 18
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more likely after spend almost 20 year study..end up selling nasi lemak at road side...or become grab ...
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I think it's safe to say that most kids wont be aiming for medical field for the time being, knowing the sort of work schedule they are risking at in this post pandemic world.
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:28 PM)
Lol. Most of us didn’t do well in a rope learning environment that rewards memorizing or having a tuition center that is able to “spot” the questions that will be coming out in the exam.

The problem with this is that the real world is more than just memorizing the whole book.

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Actually it's true and also quite apparent also back in my time in the mid 90s. Rote memorisation didn't prepare most students for university when higher order concepts came to play. And i might reported for this but alot of SJKs (even those who continued in national secondary schools) took a bit longer time to adjust.

I remember once during statistics finals some students even broke down crying in the middle of the exam. Reason was the lecturer didn't give a standard here's the problem here's the variables solve it. She presented scenarios with alot of red herrings numbers. It was a culture shock to the students that were use to rote memorisation and straight forward problem solving. Heck I even remember a group of them wanting to see the lecturer immediately after the exam to petition for a new paper 🤯

But as the years go by sooner or later most of the students ditch their bad habis from secondary school. If our universities are still roughly the same, i think the SPM kids will adjust. At least the good and dedicated ones


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post Jun 10 2021, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(CertifiedHomphobe @ Jun 10 2021, 09:21 PM)
my cousin was one of those top scorers A+++ back then 12+years ago iirc.

Got an insane scholarship , studied in the states at an ivy league school , worked for some big MNC in the states and is now currently residing at our neighbor country. Dude was literally dubbed the child prodigy of our 'family' .

I wouldn't call him super successful though but still its a great achievement nevertheless. Meanwhile I have others who couldn't match him academically but is doing pretty much the same / better than him.

Child prodigy failed to get a greencard in the states however my own siblings and other cousins did . Sucked for him though.

Was he successful? I don't know , depends on your own definition of success . But did he do better than most? Definitely.
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can sense the bitterness, mustve been the black sheep when the aunties compared report cards devil.gif
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QUOTE(IWannAAR @ Jun 10 2021, 09:28 PM)
the unfortunate reality and many don't see this as a concern but eventually everyone needs a GOOD doctor as they age (no matter how rich)

looking at the current situation, i am seeing future generations in grave trouble as people are going away from professional jobs to be in quick fix jobs instead. while these quick fix jobs pays well, future quality progress and advances is not guaranteed (global issue, not only malaysia)
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You're probably wrong aside from medicine

The sad truth is a lot of "stable" white collar jobs are no longer stable

Law
Accounting and auditing
Editing and journalism
Engineers

A lot of them will be replaced by AI very soon

Not all. Many will still be needed. But a sizable number. If there are 200k accountants in Malaysia and 20% are replaced by AI that's 40k fewer jobs. And many lower level jobs like accounts assistant or paralegal will be completely automated

Meanwhile nobody wants to see robot boobs or a robot play a guitar

So influencers increase
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 10 2021, 09:13 PM)
bill gates dropout bcoz he's too good for school
rempits and ahbengs dropout bcoz school's too good for them
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Namewee ah beng doing ok ma

Ybb ah lian but everyday some simp in k make tered about her. Bill gates also can't fight liao
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 10 2021, 09:57 PM)
You're probably wrong aside from medicine

The sad truth is a lot of "stable" white collar jobs are no longer stable

Law
Accounting and auditing
Editing and journalism
Engineers

A lot of them will be replaced by AI very soon

Not all. Many will still be needed. But a sizable number. If there are 200k accountants in Malaysia and 20% are replaced by AI that's 40k fewer jobs. And many lower level jobs like accounts assistant or paralegal will be completely automated

Meanwhile nobody wants to see robot boobs or a robot play a guitar

So influencers increase
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makes me wonder really, 50 years to come, so many influencers, who are they trying to influence? influencers out-influencing other influencers? will the world ever the oversaturated with influencers at one point and the world become so unproductive i wonder 🤔 is that why china is controlling the social media so much because they foresee this happening in the future?

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 10 2021, 09:53 PM)
can sense the bitterness, mustve been the black sheep when the aunties compared report cards  devil.gif
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Lmao

Tru2, the guy got compared with everyone in my family lol.
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Ayam fren got straight A back then
Got scholarship went overseas study dunno what course
Back here hair half gone due to stress he said
Ended up working for a book company, not related to course he taken...
Now dunno do what but kinda annoying always post photos with gf
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i rather let those 11A charsiew study for loktor rather than 11BCDE oren kito that get the spot.
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I think it's fair to express disappointment if can't get desire placement and scholarship at local for top scorer but what happened in the past were those huha felt they were entitled to full scholarship for overseas education like whole freaking country owe them.
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jun 10 2021, 10:14 PM)
Ayam fren got straight A back then
Got scholarship went overseas study dunno what course
Back here hair half gone due to stress he said
Ended up working for a book company, not related to course he taken...
Now dunno do what but kinda annoying always post photos with gf
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Hair half gone .....
Yet got gf..

Bruh .... U got gf or not
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 10 2021, 09:57 PM)
You're probably wrong aside from medicine

The sad truth is a lot of "stable" white collar jobs are no longer stable

Law
Accounting and auditing
Editing and journalism
Engineers

A lot of them will be replaced by AI very soon

Not all. Many will still be needed. But a sizable number. If there are 200k accountants in Malaysia and 20% are replaced by AI that's 40k fewer jobs. And many lower level jobs like accounts assistant or paralegal will be completely automated

Meanwhile nobody wants to see robot boobs or a robot play a guitar

So influencers increase
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Engineers can't be replaced by AI... In fact, AI is managed by engineers and computer scientists. kuli will be replaced by AI, that makes more sense. Because the true engineering is the application of science and math to design and invent something, not the kuli in industry.

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Jun 10 2021, 10:14 PM)
Ayam fren got straight A back then
Got scholarship went overseas study dunno what course
Back here hair half gone due to stress he said
Ended up working for a book company, not related to course he taken...
Now dunno do what but kinda annoying always post photos with gf
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While the average student with 3As and a bunch of Bs is the owner of a soon to be public listed company with a valuation of over 300 million.

I see a lot of cases where the smart A student end up working for the C student and taking orders from the B student in middle management.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 10 2021, 09:05 PM)
i really wanna see how many will say they wanna be doctor this year? laugh.gif

they say want also their parents won't let them
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good timer be a doctor, haha
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 10 2021, 10:24 PM)
Hair half gone .....
Yet got gf..

Bruh .... U got gf or not
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Nowadays Malaysia doctors work as contract workers, government won't increase the pay as they are not permanent doctors.
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 09:09 PM)
Any idea how many of these 20 A1 SPM top scorers actually became successful in life?
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Forget about success in life. 1st of all, can they achieve a proper success in their jobs?
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jun 10 2021, 08:58 PM)
Here we go again esok news around msia newspaper n websites n Facebooks

What advice /k have for our char siews who just finished SPM with A A
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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jun 10 2021, 09:41 PM)
I think it's safe to say that most kids wont be aiming for medical field for the time being, knowing the sort of work schedule they are risking at in this post pandemic world.
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However if willing to sacrifice, generally RN (nursing) in angmoh places gets you migration approval there.. hmm.gif being a doctor maybe too hard coz not top tier academically but RN isnt that hard to pass (compared to MBBS)
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 11 2021, 12:42 AM)
However if willing to sacrifice, generally RN (nursing) in angmoh places gets you migration approval there.. hmm.gif being a doctor maybe too hard coz not top tier academically but RN isnt that hard to pass (compared to MBBS)
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Studying just to migrate? Feels so wrong...

But eh... considering the desperate times we have now where government is rollcalling every available doctors and nurses including ones still studying to make up for the shortages for an indefinite amount of time, and since travel restrictions are still in effect worldwide, these kids are welcome to try.
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being a plumber in developed cuntry > being a doctor in Mesia
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 11 2021, 06:16 AM)
being a plumber in developed cuntry > being a doctor in Mesia
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or a car mechanic

they charge like $200 an hour for their service
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QUOTE(lagista @ Jun 10 2021, 09:16 PM)
NASA scientists for sure

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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Jun 10 2021, 09:13 PM)
bill gates dropout bcoz he's too good for school
rempits and ahbengs dropout bcoz school's too good for them
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Alot of school dropouts who became successful actually dropped out from good schools.

Bill Gates dropped out from Harvard.

Not every school dropout is the same.

Told my kids if they drop out from Ivy League or Oxbridge, long queue of VCs will put their moneies in.
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 10:27 PM)
While the average student with 3As and a bunch of Bs is the owner of a soon to be public listed company with a valuation of over 300 million.

I see a lot of cases where the smart A student end up working for the C student and taking orders from the B student in middle management.
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initially i thot thats the case until i compiled some figures about my SPM classmates.

The A grade students tend to hv higher pay after 10 years than the B n C students. Most of them are professionals.

Of coz, the richest student is a C grade student who became a businessman.

But he is the only 1 who succeeeded. The rest of C grade students who became bizmen are barely making enough to survive.

Just my SPM class.


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even 10A, or 11 A is nth...

my siblings mosttly:

8A
9A
10A

me, 5A je, campur pon

attitude problem, always feel entitled and whole world owes them, then gg la...
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I was in so called elite high school, 10/20 of my friend are successful doctor, engineer, lawyer and professional career

I’m the odd one, didn’t complete my university, dropped out

Am I consider myself successful? Not really, just earn enough and be happy

How much I earn if you may ask… T20 in Malaysia standard, but on international just B40
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 10 2021, 10:27 PM)
While the average student with 3As and a bunch of Bs is the owner of a soon to be public listed company with a valuation of over 300 million.

I see a lot of cases where the smart A student end up working for the C student and taking orders from the B student in middle management.
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how many C student and B student successfully built up their businesses to be able to hire smart A student?

you're overlooking the 99% of C student and B student that's doing foodpanda and got nowhere with their C and B
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I am more concerned if the examiners lowered the passing rate..feels really fishy about this 2020 SPM results been the best in the past 5 years??

Hope I am wrong... for the good of the country's future, I hope.. lol
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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Jun 11 2021, 07:36 AM)
Alot of school dropouts who became successful actually dropped out from good schools.

Bill Gates dropped out from Harvard.

Not every school dropout is the same.

Told my kids if they drop out from Ivy League or Oxbridge, long queue of VCs will put their moneies in.
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Not necessarily la .. if they dropout because can't cope with those schools leh
Like those charsiew with connections , pay their way to enter ivy League and dropout
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Study 11 years in school
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4-6 years med school
2 years houseman

Still earn less than show boobs and pussy on onlyfans after SPM at 18
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Yeah but female doctors are empowered individuals who don't have to depend on lustful members of the patriarchy.

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and in two three months, later keluar ayat sedih UPU tak lepas

"punah harapan belajar"

dap mca umno semua keluar card pertahankan budak budak ni

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I attended government school for my secondary school - which sucked because there weren't international schools where I was. Parents were actually thinking of moving to bigger city so I could attend private school but that didn't happened. Ironically, after I graduated from secondary school, my parents eventually moved lol. I hated my government school and would never, ever send my kids there. That's another topic to talk about, but not here.

I did SPM and got 9A+ 1A. Before you think I studied everyday, I did not. I don't know really. Maybe I'm a little talented but that's a bit boastful of me.

Anyway before I even got my SPM results, I left Malaysia for US and has been there ever since. Got myself into an undergrad ivy league school, then I did grad school.

I work in a FANG company now, but don't see myself here for long.

I make 13K USD per month as compensation (salary+bonuses), and I'm <25 years old. If you think that's successful for my age, then yeah I guess I did decent. But really, every FANG engineer makes as much money as me anyway, so there's nothing to be proud of.

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It's just a cert for you to go to higher learning. Question is, continue form 6, ask for scholarship, go private or public education, or just go out work?
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SPM all As. Very successful in life already. Can show tell the whole world. Congratulations!
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in Malaysia or outside of Malaysia? I see many suksesful doctor all over the world except for
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Don't waste your time in MLM's ,

study hard, fight to get into corporate ladder, or go overseas to broaden your world view

at the end of the day , white collar job ain't that bad.

not everybody dedikasi to open big business on the fly
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Truer words have never been spoken.. lol

I see many are poisoned by rich dad poor dad book

On average, those who excelled in studies went in to MNCs and got rich or above average rich through salary alone

Whereas those who were bad at school comfort themselves with the 1 or 2 super successful big boss..by and large , they lose by a mile in life
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and in two three months, later keluar ayat sedih UPU tak lepas

"punah harapan belajar"

dap mca umno semua keluar card pertahankan budak budak ni

#kerajaangagal
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If soc med was a thing back in my time there will be alot of tears. UPU in the mid 90s shunted top scorers who couldn't get matriculation into Form 6. This was back in the aggregate system time. I cannot remember if the lowest possible was 6 or 8 but these types got Form 6 in my school. 15s (average score) however got placement in pre University of public universities
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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Jun 11 2021, 07:43 AM)
initially i thot thats the case until i compiled some figures about my SPM classmates.

The A grade students tend to hv higher pay after 10 years than the B n C students. Most of them are professionals.

Of coz, the richest student is a C grade student who became a businessman. 

But he is the only 1 who succeeeded. The rest of C grade students who became bizmen are barely making enough to survive.

Just my SPM class.
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jun 10 2021, 08:58 PM)
Here we go again esok news around msia newspaper n websites n Facebooks

What advice /k have for our char siews who just finished SPM with A A
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Study 11 years in school
Go pre u 2 years
4-6 years med school
2 years houseman

Still earn less than show boobs and pussy on onlyfans after SPM at 18
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success in life is not measures by how much u earn nor how many A's you scored in exam. just my opinion.

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successful actually depend on how you define success, even in these 4 pages there already different definition of success, chairman, T20, greencard, nasa etc..etc. Thus individually everyone is different.

problems for malaysia is that success as defined by malays are very-very low compared to nons. Many are contented to be in M40 and receiving tongkat here and there.

with DEB etc. the goalpost has been shifted a bit as instead of starting from rural B40 (parents) they started from suburban M40 which have better awareness on the need for material wealth. but the progress have been very-very slow.

Again the socio-cultural makeup of the 70% of the population are the reason why Malaysia is still inching instead of accelerating toward our goal to be a developed nation.
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Any idea how many of these 20 A1 SPM top scorers actually became successful in life?
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meaning those getting bad result will be more successful later in life?
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attitude problem, always feels the entitled and whole world owes them, then gg la...
Some of them managed to find someone they could bully into giving them whatever they want. This is including workplace bullying
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i rather let those 11A charsiew study for loktor rather than 11BCDE oren kito that get the spot.
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up for underrated comment.
u try go into med course class. see how many oren kito vs nons. and compare again their result.
and that's where you get your daily news of "loktor nowadays quality macam mak harom" news.

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 11 2021, 09:51 AM)
meaning those getting bad result will be more successful later in life?
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Depends.

If get bad results because of not being good at memorizing stuff by hard but you still tried your best. Then yes you will be successful later in life when you put your skills to better use.

If get bad results because not interested in studying and prefer to rempit, then no.
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 11 2021, 10:07 AM)
Depends.

If get bad results because of not being good at memorizing stuff by hard but you still tried your best. Then yes you will be successful later in life when you put your skills to better use.

If get bad results because not interested in studying and prefer to rempit, then no.
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study is one of the easiest thing to do.

u failed = u have potential?

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QUOTE(Sammie7 @ Jun 11 2021, 09:32 AM)
success in life is not measures by how much u earn nor how many A's you scored in exam. just my opinion.
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You're right it's based on how many abalone u tasted

For example Bezos is richer but Elon still better

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in msia be so smart for what... see the intelligence of this one man who can be Prasarana chairman...

just join party politic your future confirm bright
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 11 2021, 10:30 AM)
study is one of the easiest thing to do.

u failed = u have potential?

.....
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Failed because of not being good at memorizing? Then yes you have potential.

Some of the students fare better at creative studies and problem solving. These are the ones who will very likely not do well in school due to not being able to memorize the whole textbook.
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 11 2021, 10:57 AM)
Failed because of not being good at memorizing? Then yes you have potential.

Some of the students fare better at creative studies and problem solving. These are the ones who will very likely not do well in school due to not being able to memorize the whole textbook.
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study = memorizing???

u failed miserably
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 11 2021, 10:58 AM)
study = memorizing???

u failed miserably
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Ok bro. I guess I did fail miserably in school. How did you guess?
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QUOTE(friedricetheman @ Jun 11 2021, 11:00 AM)
Ok bro. I guess I did fail miserably in school. How did you guess?
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study = use brain

brain function not just memorize

brain power = analyze, understand, and creativity

u teach me some simple theory, and i can understand deeper theory.

chinese said give one, reflect three.

lowest level function is memorizing

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study is one of the easiest thing to do.

u failed = u have potential?

.....
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should be the results do not reflect your intelligence/top skills. Because exam nowadays only based on memory skills as already been told what subjects will be out.

Example of top skills and intelligence are : doctor- able to cut heart and brain, makes medicine. Lawyer- think of solution and able to find evidence to acquit your clients. Able to do this already very successful. These kinds of skill cannot be reflected through written exams. The quantity of these people is very little only.

I am sure very little quantity of top skills neurosurgeon, and top lawyer that able to win high profile court case like karpal singh in msia.


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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 11 2021, 11:10 AM)
should be the results do not reflect your intelligence/top skills. Because exam nowadays only based on memory skills as already been told what subjects will be out.

Example of top skills and intelligence are : doctor- able to cut heart and brain, makes medicine.  Lawyer- think of solution and able to find evidence to acquit your clients. Able to do this already very successful. These kinds of skill cannot be reflected through written exams. The quantity of these people is very little only.

I am sure very little quantity of top skills neurosurgeon, and top lawyer that able to win high profile court case like karpal singh in msia.
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guess that's the problem of education system/culture here in Malaysia. but highly likely only the straight A's students will get offer the medical course instead of non-straight A's student who is actually interested (and maybe have better potential) in medical field. (PS: was referring to the non-bumi here.)
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Jun 11 2021, 11:07 AM)
study = use brain

brain function not just memorize

brain power = analyze, understand, and creativity

u teach me some simple theory, and i can understand deeper theory.

chinese said give one, reflect three.

lowest level function is memorizing
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That's the ideal outcome of studying. Reality is rote memorisation was predominant in our education from primary to secondary. And we were all supposed to vomit it out for SPM. This was my case from the mid 80s to 90s. Many students had to readjust for university. But good lecturers back in my day did do a good job reaclimatising students and getting them to drop bad habits picked up from secondar school

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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Jun 11 2021, 07:43 AM)
initially i thot thats the case until i compiled some figures about my SPM classmates.

The A grade students tend to hv higher pay after 10 years than the B n C students. Most of them are professionals.

Of coz, the richest student is a C grade student who became a businessman. 

But he is the only 1 who succeeeded. The rest of C grade students who became bizmen are barely making enough to survive.

Just my SPM class.
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I was consistently in top 5 in all exams in school, in a top school in my state (best performing school in SPM in the state, in my year). 4 other person became doctors, and most people who were occasionally in top 10 became doctors as well except me.

Safe to say, I am nowhere near top 50 in terms of earnings. Most of highly paid non-doctors in my batch were 5-7As students who work in O&G industry.

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QUOTE(Sammie7 @ Jun 11 2021, 11:36 AM)
guess that's the problem of education system/culture here in Malaysia. but highly likely only the straight A's students will get offer the medical course instead of non-straight A's student who is actually interested (and maybe have better potential) in medical field. (PS: was referring to the non-bumi here.)
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That is why the country's debt already more than a trillion. So many graduates each year. Can becoming a doctor and lawyer does not mean they are really good. Maybe those that denied entry just because they get B+ in history, BM, moral, math may have better potential.

See, Pulau batu puteh also cannot defend and lost it in the International court. And for vaccine of course don't have the expertise to produce. Aeroplane also I doubt any straight A's or first-class graduate can make but it is like an easy chap for many countries. So you can see the overall standard at where.

When the country's debt keeps increasing, pay interest also can die. And the population keeps increasing. There will be more poor people than the rich. If they still don't change or improve the system, another 50 years you will see the problem like Indon.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 10 2021, 09:02 PM)
Study 11 years in school
Go pre u 2 years
4-6 years med school
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Still earn less than show boobs and pussy on onlyfans after SPM at 18
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Sell nasi lemak can earn same or more
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jun 11 2021, 11:10 AM)
Example of top skills and intelligence are : doctor- able to cut heart and brain, makes medicine.  Lawyer- think of solution and able to find evidence to acquit your clients. Able to do this already very successful. These kinds of skill cannot be reflected through written exams. The quantity of these people is very little only.
Programmers too, they were smart enough to create solutions where their works already make a big impact on our everyday life. There is these guys who could write a script where you save it in your bookmark bar, you run it on a porn site to un-private some private videos, there is no way that any normal people could do that lol. I mean they could do this in their sleep, imagine their full potential when they put all that brain power to work.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jun 11 2021, 01:06 PM)
I was consistently in top 5 in all exams in school, in a top school in my state (best performing school in SPM in the state, in my year). 4 other person became doctors, and most people who were occasionally in top 10 became doctors as well except me.

Safe to say, I am nowhere near top 50 in terms of earnings. Most of highly paid non-doctors in my batch were 5-7As students who work in O&G industry.
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Thanks for sharing.

How about those less than 5 As students? How are they doing? Better off or worse off than those that score more than 5As?

BTW, you shld check with classmates in O&G. With low oil price, they still have a job?
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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Jun 11 2021, 06:11 PM)
Thanks for sharing.

How about those less than 5 As students? How are they doing? Better off or worse off than those that score more than 5As?

BTW, you shld check with classmates in O&G. With low oil price, they still have a job?
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I think most of them are doing alright. Of all the students in my batch, I think less than 10 didn't have degree and all of them are self-employed (doing small businesses).

O&G schoolmates? Most of them play safe and join the company that never sack their staff laugh.gif Only one working with European company and still working despite company retrenching left & right.

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jun 10 2021, 08:58 PM)
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What advice /k have for our char siews who just finished SPM with A A
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QUOTE(dead_psycho @ Jun 11 2021, 08:13 AM)
I am more concerned if the examiners lowered the passing rate..feels really fishy about this 2020 SPM results been the best in the past 5 years??

Hope I am wrong... for the good of the country's future, I hope.. lol
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