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post Jun 10 2021, 02:34 PM, updated 2 months ago

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Just thought of sharing my W211 Restoration progress

Backstory of the car: Engine Changed on 2018 For RM12k(iirc) had more problems, so just let it sit and forgotten about it. Main problems were the SBC Pump and the radiator which became teh tarik or dalgona coffee. Came in with high expectations where i thought the repairs would be RM12,000 Max including new tyres, Paint job and repairs. Apparently after my new foreman checked the car out, it was apparent that they had more work than intended as most of my supposedly new parts in the engine had cracks. Anyways below would be the expected cost of repairs.

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post Jun 10 2021, 02:43 PM

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Any pics? My dad just bought an w211 e320 which I suspect i will have to maintain.
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Jun 10 2021, 02:34 PM)
Just thought of sharing my W211 Restoration progress

Backstory of the car: Engine Changed on 2018 For RM12k(iirc) had more problems, so just let it sit and forgotten about it. Main problems were the SBC Pump and the radiator which became teh tarik or dalgona coffee. Came in with high expectations where i thought the repairs would be RM12,000 Max including new tyres, Paint job and repairs. Apparently after my new foreman checked the car out, it was apparent that they had more work than intended as most of my supposedly new parts in the engine had cracks. Anyways below would be the expected cost of repairs.

Grey: Done
Purple: Coming Soon

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Engine Changed on 2018 For RM12k(iirc) had more problems
> from half cut /?
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post Jun 10 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(ahchun @ Jun 10 2021, 02:43 PM)
Engine Changed on 2018 For RM12k(iirc) had more problems
> from half cut /?
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Halfcut yes, iirc the guy said it was from Japan Import, bought empty and masukkan everything
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QUOTE(winkytoe @ Jun 10 2021, 02:43 PM)
Any pics? My dad just bought an w211 e320 which I suspect i will have to maintain.
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of the car or? What year is thee320?
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post Jun 10 2021, 03:11 PM

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Halfcut yes, iirc the guy said it was from Japan Import, bought empty and masukkan everything
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so end target to fully restore?

how much u expect to spend? 30k?

question coz i am curious if it worth or not ?
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post Jun 10 2021, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(ahchun @ Jun 10 2021, 03:11 PM)
so end target to fully restore?

how much u expect to spend? 30k?

question coz i am curious if it worth or not ?
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Fully restore might take awhile more. Currently just to get it to run smoothly and mechanically fine. Aesthetics will be later e.g bigger rims and tyre, new coat of paint
Probably will be 25k Max. Worth it or not? Probably not but since i already started might as well finish it
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post Jun 10 2021, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Jun 10 2021, 02:55 PM)
of the car or? What year is thee320?
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2004 model. I think AMG kit.

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post Jun 10 2021, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(winkytoe @ Jun 10 2021, 03:27 PM)
2004 model. I think AMG kit.

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So far the most common problem i had would be the SBC Pump <07' Models of the W211. Prices for the pump varies (halfcut and new bosch ones) as the part numbers are different i think for the e320 it's cheaper than mine. Other than that, depends on luck really.
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Jun 10 2021, 02:34 PM)
Just thought of sharing my W211 Restoration progress

Backstory of the car: Engine Changed on 2018 For RM12k(iirc) had more problems, so just let it sit and forgotten about it. Main problems were the SBC Pump and the radiator which became teh tarik or dalgona coffee. Came in with high expectations where i thought the repairs would be RM12,000 Max including new tyres, Paint job and repairs. Apparently after my new foreman checked the car out, it was apparent that they had more work than intended as most of my supposedly new parts in the engine had cracks. Anyways below would be the expected cost of repairs.

Grey: Done
Purple: Coming Soon

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Hmm. Just curious why would you need to change the entire oil filter housing?

From the teh tarik you mentioned I think its the heat exchanger attached to the oil filter housing that failed. It can be changed separately.

My BMW has these heat exchangers too, 1 for engine oil, 1 for ATF. I swapped these out to air-cooled unit to make sure no more teh tarik in future
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what is your model version? My dad old car was W211 E240 Japan Recond, quite reliable back then, sold it after 5-6 years usage with wear & tear services.

meanwhile my bro in law had W211 E270 Diesel, this thing had features as E500, Airmatic ride, sensonic front thingy, massage seat and sunroof. However, last months just spend about 15k+ for engine overhault and gb repair. The airmatic cost him almost 12k last year
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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Jun 10 2021, 03:51 PM)
Hmm. Just curious why would you need to change the entire oil filter housing?

From the teh tarik you mentioned I think its the heat exchanger attached to the oil filter housing that failed. It can be changed separately.

My BMW has these heat exchangers too, 1 for engine oil, 1 for ATF. I swapped these out to air-cooled unit to make sure no more teh tarik in future
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Great question, i think its just because job might be easier to replace the whole thing and less room for error.

No 32, has cracks which caused the coolant to mix with the oil
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 10 2021, 04:03 PM)
what is your model version? My dad old car was W211 E240 Japan Recond, quite reliable back then, sold it after 5-6 years usage with wear & tear services.

meanwhile my bro in law had W211 E270 Diesel, this thing had features as E500, Airmatic ride, sensonic front thingy, massage seat and sunroof. However, last months just spend about 15k+ for engine overhault and gb repair. The airmatic cost him almost 12k last year
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E200K 1.8 UK Import, my dad kinda regretted not getting the 07 when it came out and cheapen out on the 03 (which he overpaid at the time). People usually just swap out the airmatic for a normal suspension hahaha i believe for the S-Class of the same time, people were like "nope not paying 12k for those!"
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Jun 10 2021, 04:15 PM)
Great question, i think its just because job might be easier to replace the whole thing and less room for error.

No 32, has cracks which caused the coolant to mix with the oil
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E200K 1.8 UK Import, my dad kinda regretted not getting the 07 when it came out and cheapen out on the 03 (which he overpaid at the time). People usually just swap out the airmatic for a normal suspension hahaha i believe for the S-Class of the same time, people were like "nope not paying 12k for those!"
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the sbc thingy, iirc there are few forumers in merz malaysia forum had shop able to repair the sbc pump/ modules. but as it related to brake, i don't suggest to cheapskate on it.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 10 2021, 04:18 PM)
the sbc thingy, iirc there are few forumers in merz malaysia forum had shop able to repair the sbc pump/ modules. but as it related to brake, i don't suggest to cheapskate on it.
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Yeah for the SBC rather not risk it, Usually workshops would just swap out the Brake Pressure Accumulator on the SBC. I got my friend to scan the fault codes, car wouldn't even detect/connect the SBC at all. So I'm pretty sure the whole unit needs to be replaced. Pricing wise, if its above 5k including bleeding, i might just get halfcut two times.. one for spare
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Jun 10 2021, 04:15 PM)
Great question, i think its just because job might be easier to replace the whole thing and less room for error.

No 32, has cracks which caused the coolant to mix with the oil
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E200K 1.8 UK Import, my dad kinda regretted not getting the 07 when it came out and cheapen out on the 03 (which he overpaid at the time). People usually just swap out the airmatic for a normal suspension hahaha i believe for the S-Class of the same time, people were like "nope not paying 12k for those!"
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Exactly. Item 32 is the only thing that needs to be changed along with its gasket (can become hardened over time). You dont to change the whole oil filter housing sweat.gif

Item 32 (heat exchanger) can be changed for few hundred bucks only

Water-cooled heat exchangers are known to fail due to corrosion. I dont see any of these in japanese makes though, which gives perception that japs are more reliable
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Jun 10 2021, 03:17 PM)
Fully restore might take awhile more. Currently just to get it to run smoothly and mechanically fine. Aesthetics will be later e.g bigger rims and tyre, new coat of paint
Probably will be 25k Max. Worth it or not? Probably not but since i already started might as well finish it
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keep up posted
niced if with some pic too
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post Jun 10 2021, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Jun 10 2021, 05:18 PM)
Exactly. Item 32 is the only thing that needs to be changed along with its gasket (can become hardened over time). You dont to change the whole oil filter housing sweat.gif

Item 32 (heat exchanger) can be changed for few hundred bucks only

Water-cooled heat exchangers are known to fail due to corrosion. I dont see any of these in japanese makes though, which gives perception that japs are more reliable
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I'll ask my mechanic his reasoning on changing the whole housing. I don't blame him if he's just lazy. Interesting Observation on the japanese make.


QUOTE(ahchun @ Jun 10 2021, 09:18 PM)
keep up posted
niced if with some pic too
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Will upload some if you're interested, For now enjoy this video




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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Jun 10 2021, 10:09 PM)
I'll ask my mechanic his reasoning on changing the whole housing. I don't blame him if he's just lazy. Interesting Observation on the japanese make.
Will upload some if you're interested, For now enjoy this video

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half cut no good condi ?
ur own enjin run for how long odometer
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 13 2021, 08:32 PM)
half cut no good condi ?
ur own enjin run for how long odometer
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Halfcut Japan block was good, but i guess everything else wasn't, RIP after <3k km
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fellow W211 fan here .. used to own a 2007 E280 avantgarde that i bought with 150,000 km mileage .. luckily managed to get out before the m273 timing chain issue came up ..

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QUOTE(dumay @ Jun 15 2021, 08:41 AM)
fellow W211 fan here .. used to own a 2007 E280 avantgarde that i bought with 150,000 km mileage .. luckily managed to get out before the m273 timing chain issue came up ..
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Any sign to detect b4 this problem come out? Got friend eying w211 E230 v6 201hp
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Any sign to detect b4 this problem come out? Got friend eying w211 E230 v6 201hp
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sorry it's M272 engine .. mine had check engine light and did a scan and it will tell you camshaft error or something .. forgot the code already .. but I changed my solenoid coils and manage to drive it for awhile more ..

the symptoms will be some faint chain sounds when you cold start .. it will come occasionally during accelerations too.

This is manufacturer's defect issue and only affected those m272 engines built in 2007 or earlier.

If your friend is eyeing the E230, malaysia only sold it around 2008 and this issue already have been resolved so don't need to worry about it .. generally it's a pretty reliable engine. mine i drove it till 165,000 still silky smooth save for the occasional CEL from the camshafts
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QUOTE(dumay @ Jun 15 2021, 10:29 AM)
sorry it's M272 engine .. mine had check engine light and did a scan and it will tell you camshaft error or something .. forgot the code already .. but I changed my solenoid coils and manage to drive it for awhile more ..

the symptoms will be some faint chain sounds when you cold start .. it will come occasionally during accelerations too.

This is manufacturer's defect issue and only affected those m272 engines built in 2007 or earlier.

If your friend is eyeing the E230, malaysia only sold it around 2008 and this issue already have been resolved so don't need to worry about it .. generally it's a pretty reliable engine. mine i drove it till 165,000 still silky smooth save for the occasional CEL from the camshafts
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Yeah i studied it as well. Price is considering ok now. It last batches of w211 in Malaysia and get the best version of command aps (still cannot compare to nowadays hu which much better).

The e240 2.6 v6 kinda use old tech while this e230 2.5 v6 had vvt both iinm and 201 hp vs 170+ on e240.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 15 2021, 04:51 PM)
Yeah i studied it as well. Price is considering ok now. It last batches of w211 in Malaysia and get the best version of command aps (still cannot compare to nowadays hu which much better).
The e240 2.6 v6 kinda use old tech while this e230 2.5 v6 had vvt both iinm and 201 hp vs 170+ on e240.
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yup 2.6 sohc m112 robust tech really trouble free
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QUOTE(winkytoe @ Jun 10 2021, 02:43 PM)
Any pics? My dad just bought an w211 e320 which I suspect i will have to maintain.
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QUOTE(ahchun @ Jun 10 2021, 09:18 PM)
keep up posted
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So overhaul was done quite awhile ago, changed the brake discs which was rusted as hell. Fail to find the SBC unit to replace and now i have problems with my gearbox, might take another 10k to solve. Currently i've clocked over RM15,000 and have driven for 450KM~

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 12 2021, 10:59 AM)
So overhaul was done quite awhile ago, changed the brake discs which was rusted as hell. Fail to find the SBC unit to replace and now i have problems with my gearbox, might take another 10k to solve. Currently i've clocked over RM15,000 and have driven for 450KM~

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for the gb, do u change the atf periodically last time or assume it seal for life? my old dad car, w211 e240, the foreman suggest and we do the atf flushing per 50k km and it work ok. lesson leant for gb issue for w210 e200k on the previous car, it start jerkiness after assume the atf is seal for life
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 12 2021, 11:02 AM)
for the gb, do u change the atf periodically last time or assume it seal for life? my old dad car, w211 e240, the foreman suggest and we do the atf flushing per 50k km and it work ok. lesson leant for gb issue for w210 e200k on the previous car, it start jerkiness after assume the atf is seal for life
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i think i assumed the latter, Sometimes now when i drive it would go into neutral or wouldn't shift. But in the last 2 weeks it has been ok which was more alarming lol
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 12 2021, 11:06 AM)
i think i assumed the latter, Sometimes now when i drive it would go into neutral or wouldn't shift.  But in the last 2 weeks it has been ok which was more alarming lol
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the old car is sometimes stuck at 3rd gear and remains there unless I do the manual gear select at the gearstick. change the ATF after that just minimizes the issues, but I think the problem had been stuck due to the old ATF.
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 12 2021, 10:59 AM)
So overhaul was done quite awhile ago, changed the brake discs which was rusted as hell. Fail to find the SBC unit to replace and now i have problems with my gearbox, might take another 10k to solve. Currently i've clocked over RM15,000 and have driven for 450KM~

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seems like 15K for 450km is abit pain to the wallet

no more new SBC unit in the market?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 12 2021, 11:23 AM)
the old car is sometimes stuck at 3rd gear and remains there unless I do the manual gear select at the gearstick. change the ATF after that just minimizes the issues, but I think the problem had been stuck due to the old ATF.
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Will reconfirm if i actually changed ATF during the first visit

QUOTE(ahchun @ Aug 13 2021, 09:12 AM)
seems like 15K for 450km is abit pain to the wallet

no more new SBC unit in the market?
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Yeah... Kinda starting to regret as i could have just bought cash a 2007 model without all these problems rofl

New SBC hard to find so far, every Bosch reseller has either no stock completely for the SBC pump or no stock for my specific SBC pump part num

Best bet is to get half cut for like RM2.5k~


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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 13 2021, 12:40 PM)
Will reconfirm if i actually changed ATF during the first visit
Yeah... Kinda starting to regret as i could have just bought cash a 2007 model without all these problems rofl

New SBC hard to find so far, every Bosch reseller has either no stock completely for the SBC pump or no stock for my specific SBC pump part num

Best bet is to get half cut for like RM2.5k~
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Half cut SBC also at rm2.5k? Seriously?!?! That's just too high. Did you go hunting for the SBC?
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Aug 13 2021, 01:37 PM)
Half cut SBC also at rm2.5k? Seriously?!?! That's just too high. Did you go hunting for the SBC?
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I did for quite abit, i noticed that the earlier models for the W211, the SBC's are more expensive
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I did for quite abit, i noticed that the earlier models for the W211, the SBC's are more expensive
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How about changing the whole brake system to the fl ones since you have changed the engine too.
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this bug eye merc design really not aged with time
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Aug 13 2021, 02:45 PM)
How about changing the whole brake system to the fl ones since you have changed the engine too.
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have asked my foreman which said its impossible, a bunch of threads on MB Forum said that its a good braking system bla bla when people ask if they could change the whole system.

Something to do with the SBC unit must be present if not all the other electronics will become retarded

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this bug eye merc design really not aged with time
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haha really? on the W210 is an eyesore but on the W211 its actually my favorite part! The ones i just put on are from Shopee and were only RM100 per set
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 13 2021, 03:31 PM)
have asked my foreman which said its impossible, a bunch of threads on MB Forum said that its a good braking system bla bla when people ask if they could change the whole system.

Something to do with the SBC unit must be present if not all the other electronics will become retarded
haha really? on the W210 is an eyesore but on the W211 its actually my favorite part! The ones i just put on are from Shopee and were only RM100 per set
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SBC is definitely a good braking system. The only thing is that it has a lifespan. Same as air suspension which you should be thankful that the W211 doesn't have. If not, it'll be another costly repair.

Honestly speaking, I have both German brands and I can say that merc's maintenance cost is slightly higher than BM.
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Aug 13 2021, 05:34 PM)
SBC is definitely a good braking system. The only thing is that it has a lifespan. Same as air suspension which you should be thankful that the W211 doesn't have. If not, it'll be another costly repair.

Honestly speaking, I have both German brands and I can say that merc's maintenance cost is slightly higher than BM.
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My bro W211 have that airmatic suspension, E270 which have features as same as E500 iinm. 2 years ago, the airmatic gone, so spend about rm12k for recond unit on replacement.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 13 2021, 07:14 PM)
My bro W211 have that airmatic suspension, E270 which have features as same as E500 iinm. 2 years ago, the airmatic gone, so spend about rm12k for recond unit on replacement.
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Wow... You really spent a lot on your w211. Why never consider to refurbish your airmatic instead of replacing it?
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Aug 13 2021, 08:19 PM)
Wow... You really spent a lot on your w211. Why never consider to refurbish your airmatic instead of replacing it?
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My bro love the car so much. One reason why not going to refurbish is warranty offered. Most refurbished shop only give 1-3 months warranty while he is getting 1 year warranty from the shop he went for it. Well he is already hit 2 years plus now
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 13 2021, 12:40 PM)
Will reconfirm if i actually changed ATF during the first visit
Yeah... Kinda starting to regret as i could have just bought cash a 2007 model without all these problems rofl

New SBC hard to find so far, every Bosch reseller has either no stock completely for the SBC pump or no stock for my specific SBC pump part num

Best bet is to get half cut for like RM2.5k~
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For your transmission issues, changing the ATF + filter would be a good first step. Changing just the fluid isn't going to be enough. If you can take it to a shop that has more advanced diagnostic equipment (e.g., someone with a Xentry kit) they should be able to read the stored codes in your transmission computer & live data to see if anything's off.

For your SBC issues - are you getting error/warning codes on your dash? You really should go to a shop that can read the exact codes. Some codes may indicate that the unit could be repaired. There's an electric motor that builds up pressure in the system, and the carbon brushes in the motor can wear out. Worn brushes (as long as the rest of the motor are fine) can be replaced. Of course, if the fault relates to an internal sensor, or the accumulator has failed, etc. then you'll need to get a replacement. It's a real bummer that Mercedes didn't extend the warranty for SBC in markets other than the US (the US got a 25-year warranty just for SBC)...
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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 14 2021, 09:12 PM)
For your transmission issues, changing the ATF + filter would be a good first step. Changing just the fluid isn't going to be enough. If you can take it to a shop that has more advanced diagnostic equipment (e.g., someone with a Xentry kit) they should be able to read the stored codes in your transmission computer & live data to see if anything's off.

For your SBC issues - are you getting error/warning codes on your dash? You really should go to a shop that can read the exact codes. Some codes may indicate that the unit could be repaired. There's an electric motor that builds up pressure in the system, and the carbon brushes in the motor can wear out. Worn brushes (as long as the rest of the motor are fine) can be replaced. Of course, if the fault relates to an internal sensor, or the accumulator has failed, etc. then you'll need to get a replacement. It's a real bummer that Mercedes didn't extend the warranty for SBC in markets other than the US (the US got a 25-year warranty just for SBC)...
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One Mercedes workshop that my dad went last time in Kajang use gb flushing machine. Pricey but it make the gb no issues after long mileage
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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 14 2021, 09:12 PM)
For your transmission issues, changing the ATF + filter would be a good first step. Changing just the fluid isn't going to be enough. If you can take it to a shop that has more advanced diagnostic equipment (e.g., someone with a Xentry kit) they should be able to read the stored codes in your transmission computer & live data to see if anything's off.

For your SBC issues - are you getting error/warning codes on your dash? You really should go to a shop that can read the exact codes. Some codes may indicate that the unit could be repaired. There's an electric motor that builds up pressure in the system, and the carbon brushes in the motor can wear out. Worn brushes (as long as the rest of the motor are fine) can be replaced. Of course, if the fault relates to an internal sensor, or the accumulator has failed, etc. then you'll need to get a replacement. It's a real bummer that Mercedes didn't extend the warranty for SBC in markets other than the US (the US got a 25-year warranty just for SBC)...
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Yeah i did a diagnostics, there was an erorr with the gearbox, which me and my foreman established that it was cheaper to buy a refurb one.

For the SBC, yeah on the dash i do have both the "Reduced Braking" and recently i have been losing all braking and power during first start (almost died today when i had no braking at a T junction). Fun times.
Can confirm everytime scanned (can't remember the code) but practically says that the unit needs to be replaced. not the accumulator. I did hear one guy in Ampang that could refurb the SBC, will ask in future.

Also found a seller on carousell who wanted 6k just for a new unit.


Just finished resetting the code with Xentry as my neighbor has a copy on his laptop.

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Yeah i did a diagnostics, there was an erorr with the gearbox, which me and my foreman established that it was cheaper to buy a refurb one.

For the SBC, yeah on the dash i do have both the "Reduced Braking" and recently i have been losing all braking and power during first start (almost died today when i had no braking at a T junction). Fun times.
Can confirm everytime scanned (can't remember the code) but practically says that the unit needs to be replaced. not the accumulator. I did hear one guy in Ampang that could refurb the SBC, will ask in future.

Also found a seller on carousell who wanted 6k just for a new unit.
Just finished resetting the code with Xentry as my neighbor has a copy on his laptop.

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Whoa...losing brakes sounds terrifying! You might want to keep the car parked until you can get the SBC sorted out...

There are also some companies in the UK that can refurb the SBC unit, but with shipping costs it won't be very cheap. Buying a used SBC unit is also a bit iffy - they have a finite lifecycle, and you won't be able to tell how much life it has left unless you can plug it in and read the data off it. It would suck to buy a used unit and then have it also fail a few months down the road...

I've been wanting something with an M113K, but I'll have to add SBC woes to my list of reasons not to get an CLS/E/SL55 biggrin.gif .

Good luck!
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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 15 2021, 02:55 PM)
Whoa...losing brakes sounds terrifying! You might want to keep the car parked until you can get the SBC sorted out...

There are also some companies in the UK that can refurb the SBC unit, but with shipping costs it won't be very cheap. Buying a used SBC unit is also a bit iffy - they have a finite lifecycle, and you won't be able to tell how much life it has left unless you can plug it in and read the data off it. It would suck to buy a used unit and then have it also fail a few months down the road...

I've been wanting something with an M113K, but I'll have to add SBC woes to my list of reasons not to get an CLS/E/SL55  biggrin.gif .

Good luck!
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U can buy the last batch W211 E Class or facelift version, it does not come with SBC brake. Or take W211 E230 2.5 V6 with 201 hp
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U can buy the last batch W211 E Class or facelift version, it does not come with SBC brake. Or take W211 E230 2.5 V6 with 201 hp
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It's the M113K engine that interests me smile.gif. Unfortunately most of the cars that came with that engine that are interesting to me come with SBC...
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It's the M113K engine that interests me smile.gif. Unfortunately most of the cars that came with that engine that are interesting to me come with SBC...
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that roadtax though
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It's the M113K engine that interests me smile.gif. Unfortunately most of the cars that came with that engine that are interesting to me come with SBC...
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Heh thanks for pointing that out! As a change from doomscrolling I usually browse Mudah or Carlist for any interesting listings; not sure how I missed this one!

For something like a CL I'd definitely get it inspected prior to purchase to see how much it needs in repairs. I'm pretty certain a car like that of that age (and at that price) would need 5-digits worth of repairs. The important question would be what the first digit is smile.gif. The roadtax bit sucks, but is unavoidable (and no, I wouldn't look for questionable loopholes to get around it).

If not for all the craziness and restrictions I wouldn't mind taking a drive up to Ipoh to look at and test the car...
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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 15 2021, 04:31 PM)
Heh thanks for pointing that out! As a change from doomscrolling I usually browse Mudah or Carlist for any interesting listings; not sure how I missed this one!

For something like a CL I'd definitely get it inspected prior to purchase to see how much it needs in repairs. I'm pretty certain a car like that of that age (and at that price) would need 5-digits worth of repairs. The important question would be what the first digit is smile.gif. The roadtax bit sucks, but is unavoidable (and no, I wouldn't look for questionable loopholes to get around it).

If not for all the craziness and restrictions I wouldn't mind taking a drive up to Ipoh to look at and test the car...
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I think within the next 5 years, you can start hunting for these sort of cars and try to apply for Classic Car Status for 80% Roadtax Reduction

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even with 2.6 NA V6 E240 is kinda fuel guzzler, around 9-10km/l max, foresee this might around 6km/l max all drive
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even with 2.6 NA V6 E240 is kinda fuel guzzler, around 9-10km/l max, foresee this might around 6km/l max all drive

 

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