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post Aug 14 2021, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 13 2021, 12:40 PM)
Will reconfirm if i actually changed ATF during the first visit
Yeah... Kinda starting to regret as i could have just bought cash a 2007 model without all these problems rofl

New SBC hard to find so far, every Bosch reseller has either no stock completely for the SBC pump or no stock for my specific SBC pump part num

Best bet is to get half cut for like RM2.5k~
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For your transmission issues, changing the ATF + filter would be a good first step. Changing just the fluid isn't going to be enough. If you can take it to a shop that has more advanced diagnostic equipment (e.g., someone with a Xentry kit) they should be able to read the stored codes in your transmission computer & live data to see if anything's off.

For your SBC issues - are you getting error/warning codes on your dash? You really should go to a shop that can read the exact codes. Some codes may indicate that the unit could be repaired. There's an electric motor that builds up pressure in the system, and the carbon brushes in the motor can wear out. Worn brushes (as long as the rest of the motor are fine) can be replaced. Of course, if the fault relates to an internal sensor, or the accumulator has failed, etc. then you'll need to get a replacement. It's a real bummer that Mercedes didn't extend the warranty for SBC in markets other than the US (the US got a 25-year warranty just for SBC)...
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post Aug 14 2021, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 14 2021, 09:12 PM)
For your transmission issues, changing the ATF + filter would be a good first step. Changing just the fluid isn't going to be enough. If you can take it to a shop that has more advanced diagnostic equipment (e.g., someone with a Xentry kit) they should be able to read the stored codes in your transmission computer & live data to see if anything's off.

For your SBC issues - are you getting error/warning codes on your dash? You really should go to a shop that can read the exact codes. Some codes may indicate that the unit could be repaired. There's an electric motor that builds up pressure in the system, and the carbon brushes in the motor can wear out. Worn brushes (as long as the rest of the motor are fine) can be replaced. Of course, if the fault relates to an internal sensor, or the accumulator has failed, etc. then you'll need to get a replacement. It's a real bummer that Mercedes didn't extend the warranty for SBC in markets other than the US (the US got a 25-year warranty just for SBC)...
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One Mercedes workshop that my dad went last time in Kajang use gb flushing machine. Pricey but it make the gb no issues after long mileage
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post Aug 15 2021, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 14 2021, 09:12 PM)
For your transmission issues, changing the ATF + filter would be a good first step. Changing just the fluid isn't going to be enough. If you can take it to a shop that has more advanced diagnostic equipment (e.g., someone with a Xentry kit) they should be able to read the stored codes in your transmission computer & live data to see if anything's off.

For your SBC issues - are you getting error/warning codes on your dash? You really should go to a shop that can read the exact codes. Some codes may indicate that the unit could be repaired. There's an electric motor that builds up pressure in the system, and the carbon brushes in the motor can wear out. Worn brushes (as long as the rest of the motor are fine) can be replaced. Of course, if the fault relates to an internal sensor, or the accumulator has failed, etc. then you'll need to get a replacement. It's a real bummer that Mercedes didn't extend the warranty for SBC in markets other than the US (the US got a 25-year warranty just for SBC)...
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Yeah i did a diagnostics, there was an erorr with the gearbox, which me and my foreman established that it was cheaper to buy a refurb one.

For the SBC, yeah on the dash i do have both the "Reduced Braking" and recently i have been losing all braking and power during first start (almost died today when i had no braking at a T junction). Fun times.
Can confirm everytime scanned (can't remember the code) but practically says that the unit needs to be replaced. not the accumulator. I did hear one guy in Ampang that could refurb the SBC, will ask in future.

Also found a seller on carousell who wanted 6k just for a new unit.


Just finished resetting the code with Xentry as my neighbor has a copy on his laptop.

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post Aug 15 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 15 2021, 12:16 AM)
Yeah i did a diagnostics, there was an erorr with the gearbox, which me and my foreman established that it was cheaper to buy a refurb one.

For the SBC, yeah on the dash i do have both the "Reduced Braking" and recently i have been losing all braking and power during first start (almost died today when i had no braking at a T junction). Fun times.
Can confirm everytime scanned (can't remember the code) but practically says that the unit needs to be replaced. not the accumulator. I did hear one guy in Ampang that could refurb the SBC, will ask in future.

Also found a seller on carousell who wanted 6k just for a new unit.
Just finished resetting the code with Xentry as my neighbor has a copy on his laptop.

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Whoa...losing brakes sounds terrifying! You might want to keep the car parked until you can get the SBC sorted out...

There are also some companies in the UK that can refurb the SBC unit, but with shipping costs it won't be very cheap. Buying a used SBC unit is also a bit iffy - they have a finite lifecycle, and you won't be able to tell how much life it has left unless you can plug it in and read the data off it. It would suck to buy a used unit and then have it also fail a few months down the road...

I've been wanting something with an M113K, but I'll have to add SBC woes to my list of reasons not to get an CLS/E/SL55 biggrin.gif .

Good luck!
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post Aug 15 2021, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 15 2021, 02:55 PM)
Whoa...losing brakes sounds terrifying! You might want to keep the car parked until you can get the SBC sorted out...

There are also some companies in the UK that can refurb the SBC unit, but with shipping costs it won't be very cheap. Buying a used SBC unit is also a bit iffy - they have a finite lifecycle, and you won't be able to tell how much life it has left unless you can plug it in and read the data off it. It would suck to buy a used unit and then have it also fail a few months down the road...

I've been wanting something with an M113K, but I'll have to add SBC woes to my list of reasons not to get an CLS/E/SL55  biggrin.gif .

Good luck!
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U can buy the last batch W211 E Class or facelift version, it does not come with SBC brake. Or take W211 E230 2.5 V6 with 201 hp
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 15 2021, 03:10 PM)
U can buy the last batch W211 E Class or facelift version, it does not come with SBC brake. Or take W211 E230 2.5 V6 with 201 hp
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It's the M113K engine that interests me smile.gif. Unfortunately most of the cars that came with that engine that are interesting to me come with SBC...
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post Aug 15 2021, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 15 2021, 03:18 PM)
It's the M113K engine that interests me smile.gif. Unfortunately most of the cars that came with that engine that are interesting to me come with SBC...
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that roadtax though
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post Aug 15 2021, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 15 2021, 03:18 PM)
It's the M113K engine that interests me smile.gif. Unfortunately most of the cars that came with that engine that are interesting to me come with SBC...
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post Aug 15 2021, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 15 2021, 04:08 PM)
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Heh thanks for pointing that out! As a change from doomscrolling I usually browse Mudah or Carlist for any interesting listings; not sure how I missed this one!

For something like a CL I'd definitely get it inspected prior to purchase to see how much it needs in repairs. I'm pretty certain a car like that of that age (and at that price) would need 5-digits worth of repairs. The important question would be what the first digit is smile.gif. The roadtax bit sucks, but is unavoidable (and no, I wouldn't look for questionable loopholes to get around it).

If not for all the craziness and restrictions I wouldn't mind taking a drive up to Ipoh to look at and test the car...
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post Aug 15 2021, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(AAY @ Aug 15 2021, 04:31 PM)
Heh thanks for pointing that out! As a change from doomscrolling I usually browse Mudah or Carlist for any interesting listings; not sure how I missed this one!

For something like a CL I'd definitely get it inspected prior to purchase to see how much it needs in repairs. I'm pretty certain a car like that of that age (and at that price) would need 5-digits worth of repairs. The important question would be what the first digit is smile.gif. The roadtax bit sucks, but is unavoidable (and no, I wouldn't look for questionable loopholes to get around it).

If not for all the craziness and restrictions I wouldn't mind taking a drive up to Ipoh to look at and test the car...
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I think within the next 5 years, you can start hunting for these sort of cars and try to apply for Classic Car Status for 80% Roadtax Reduction

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post Aug 15 2021, 08:19 PM

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even with 2.6 NA V6 E240 is kinda fuel guzzler, around 9-10km/l max, foresee this might around 6km/l max all drive
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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 15 2021, 04:08 PM)
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even with 2.6 NA V6 E240 is kinda fuel guzzler, around 9-10km/l max, foresee this might around 6km/l max all drive

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