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dumay
post Jun 15 2021, 08:41 AM

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fellow W211 fan here .. used to own a 2007 E280 avantgarde that i bought with 150,000 km mileage .. luckily managed to get out before the m273 timing chain issue came up ..

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ayamxxx
post Jun 15 2021, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(dumay @ Jun 15 2021, 08:41 AM)
fellow W211 fan here .. used to own a 2007 E280 avantgarde that i bought with 150,000 km mileage .. luckily managed to get out before the m273 timing chain issue came up ..
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Any sign to detect b4 this problem come out? Got friend eying w211 E230 v6 201hp
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post Jun 15 2021, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 15 2021, 09:50 AM)
Any sign to detect b4 this problem come out? Got friend eying w211 E230 v6 201hp
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sorry it's M272 engine .. mine had check engine light and did a scan and it will tell you camshaft error or something .. forgot the code already .. but I changed my solenoid coils and manage to drive it for awhile more ..

the symptoms will be some faint chain sounds when you cold start .. it will come occasionally during accelerations too.

This is manufacturer's defect issue and only affected those m272 engines built in 2007 or earlier.

If your friend is eyeing the E230, malaysia only sold it around 2008 and this issue already have been resolved so don't need to worry about it .. generally it's a pretty reliable engine. mine i drove it till 165,000 still silky smooth save for the occasional CEL from the camshafts
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post Jun 15 2021, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(dumay @ Jun 15 2021, 10:29 AM)
sorry it's M272 engine .. mine had check engine light and did a scan and it will tell you camshaft error or something .. forgot the code already .. but I changed my solenoid coils and manage to drive it for awhile more ..

the symptoms will be some faint chain sounds when you cold start .. it will come occasionally during accelerations too.

This is manufacturer's defect issue and only affected those m272 engines built in 2007 or earlier.

If your friend is eyeing the E230, malaysia only sold it around 2008 and this issue already have been resolved so don't need to worry about it .. generally it's a pretty reliable engine. mine i drove it till 165,000 still silky smooth save for the occasional CEL from the camshafts
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Yeah i studied it as well. Price is considering ok now. It last batches of w211 in Malaysia and get the best version of command aps (still cannot compare to nowadays hu which much better).

The e240 2.6 v6 kinda use old tech while this e230 2.5 v6 had vvt both iinm and 201 hp vs 170+ on e240.
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post Jun 16 2021, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 15 2021, 04:51 PM)
Yeah i studied it as well. Price is considering ok now. It last batches of w211 in Malaysia and get the best version of command aps (still cannot compare to nowadays hu which much better).
The e240 2.6 v6 kinda use old tech while this e230 2.5 v6 had vvt both iinm and 201 hp vs 170+ on e240.
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yup 2.6 sohc m112 robust tech really trouble free
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post Aug 12 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(winkytoe @ Jun 10 2021, 02:43 PM)
Any pics? My dad just bought an w211 e320 which I suspect i will have to maintain.
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QUOTE(ahchun @ Jun 10 2021, 09:18 PM)
keep up posted
niced if with some pic too
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So overhaul was done quite awhile ago, changed the brake discs which was rusted as hell. Fail to find the SBC unit to replace and now i have problems with my gearbox, might take another 10k to solve. Currently i've clocked over RM15,000 and have driven for 450KM~

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post Aug 12 2021, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 12 2021, 10:59 AM)
So overhaul was done quite awhile ago, changed the brake discs which was rusted as hell. Fail to find the SBC unit to replace and now i have problems with my gearbox, might take another 10k to solve. Currently i've clocked over RM15,000 and have driven for 450KM~

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for the gb, do u change the atf periodically last time or assume it seal for life? my old dad car, w211 e240, the foreman suggest and we do the atf flushing per 50k km and it work ok. lesson leant for gb issue for w210 e200k on the previous car, it start jerkiness after assume the atf is seal for life
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post Aug 12 2021, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 12 2021, 11:02 AM)
for the gb, do u change the atf periodically last time or assume it seal for life? my old dad car, w211 e240, the foreman suggest and we do the atf flushing per 50k km and it work ok. lesson leant for gb issue for w210 e200k on the previous car, it start jerkiness after assume the atf is seal for life
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i think i assumed the latter, Sometimes now when i drive it would go into neutral or wouldn't shift. But in the last 2 weeks it has been ok which was more alarming lol
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post Aug 12 2021, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 12 2021, 11:06 AM)
i think i assumed the latter, Sometimes now when i drive it would go into neutral or wouldn't shift.  But in the last 2 weeks it has been ok which was more alarming lol
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the old car is sometimes stuck at 3rd gear and remains there unless I do the manual gear select at the gearstick. change the ATF after that just minimizes the issues, but I think the problem had been stuck due to the old ATF.
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post Aug 13 2021, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 12 2021, 10:59 AM)
So overhaul was done quite awhile ago, changed the brake discs which was rusted as hell. Fail to find the SBC unit to replace and now i have problems with my gearbox, might take another 10k to solve. Currently i've clocked over RM15,000 and have driven for 450KM~

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seems like 15K for 450km is abit pain to the wallet

no more new SBC unit in the market?
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post Aug 13 2021, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 12 2021, 11:23 AM)
the old car is sometimes stuck at 3rd gear and remains there unless I do the manual gear select at the gearstick. change the ATF after that just minimizes the issues, but I think the problem had been stuck due to the old ATF.
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Will reconfirm if i actually changed ATF during the first visit

QUOTE(ahchun @ Aug 13 2021, 09:12 AM)
seems like 15K for 450km is abit pain to the wallet

no more new SBC unit in the market?
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Yeah... Kinda starting to regret as i could have just bought cash a 2007 model without all these problems rofl

New SBC hard to find so far, every Bosch reseller has either no stock completely for the SBC pump or no stock for my specific SBC pump part num

Best bet is to get half cut for like RM2.5k~


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post Aug 13 2021, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 13 2021, 12:40 PM)
Will reconfirm if i actually changed ATF during the first visit
Yeah... Kinda starting to regret as i could have just bought cash a 2007 model without all these problems rofl

New SBC hard to find so far, every Bosch reseller has either no stock completely for the SBC pump or no stock for my specific SBC pump part num

Best bet is to get half cut for like RM2.5k~
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Half cut SBC also at rm2.5k? Seriously?!?! That's just too high. Did you go hunting for the SBC?
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post Aug 13 2021, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Aug 13 2021, 01:37 PM)
Half cut SBC also at rm2.5k? Seriously?!?! That's just too high. Did you go hunting for the SBC?
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I did for quite abit, i noticed that the earlier models for the W211, the SBC's are more expensive
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post Aug 13 2021, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 13 2021, 01:53 PM)
I did for quite abit, i noticed that the earlier models for the W211, the SBC's are more expensive
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How about changing the whole brake system to the fl ones since you have changed the engine too.
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post Aug 13 2021, 02:56 PM

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this bug eye merc design really not aged with time
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Aug 13 2021, 02:45 PM)
How about changing the whole brake system to the fl ones since you have changed the engine too.
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have asked my foreman which said its impossible, a bunch of threads on MB Forum said that its a good braking system bla bla when people ask if they could change the whole system.

Something to do with the SBC unit must be present if not all the other electronics will become retarded

QUOTE(Zaire.Ver @ Aug 13 2021, 02:56 PM)
this bug eye merc design really not aged with time
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haha really? on the W210 is an eyesore but on the W211 its actually my favorite part! The ones i just put on are from Shopee and were only RM100 per set
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post Aug 13 2021, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(xUngrateful @ Aug 13 2021, 03:31 PM)
have asked my foreman which said its impossible, a bunch of threads on MB Forum said that its a good braking system bla bla when people ask if they could change the whole system.

Something to do with the SBC unit must be present if not all the other electronics will become retarded
haha really? on the W210 is an eyesore but on the W211 its actually my favorite part! The ones i just put on are from Shopee and were only RM100 per set
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SBC is definitely a good braking system. The only thing is that it has a lifespan. Same as air suspension which you should be thankful that the W211 doesn't have. If not, it'll be another costly repair.

Honestly speaking, I have both German brands and I can say that merc's maintenance cost is slightly higher than BM.
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post Aug 13 2021, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Aug 13 2021, 05:34 PM)
SBC is definitely a good braking system. The only thing is that it has a lifespan. Same as air suspension which you should be thankful that the W211 doesn't have. If not, it'll be another costly repair.

Honestly speaking, I have both German brands and I can say that merc's maintenance cost is slightly higher than BM.
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My bro W211 have that airmatic suspension, E270 which have features as same as E500 iinm. 2 years ago, the airmatic gone, so spend about rm12k for recond unit on replacement.
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post Aug 13 2021, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 13 2021, 07:14 PM)
My bro W211 have that airmatic suspension, E270 which have features as same as E500 iinm. 2 years ago, the airmatic gone, so spend about rm12k for recond unit on replacement.
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Wow... You really spent a lot on your w211. Why never consider to refurbish your airmatic instead of replacing it?
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post Aug 14 2021, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Aug 13 2021, 08:19 PM)
Wow... You really spent a lot on your w211. Why never consider to refurbish your airmatic instead of replacing it?
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My bro love the car so much. One reason why not going to refurbish is warranty offered. Most refurbished shop only give 1-3 months warranty while he is getting 1 year warranty from the shop he went for it. Well he is already hit 2 years plus now

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