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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - Present] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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2020's Summer Ins and Outs

https://www.premierleague.com/transfers/summer/2020

In
Odion Ighalo (Shanghai Shenhua) Loan
Donny van de Beek (Ajax)
Edison Cavani - Free Agent

Out
Cameron Borthwick-Jackson (Released)
Dion McGee (Released)
Angel Gomes (Released)
Ethan Hamilton (Released)
Michael O'Hara (Released)
Largie Ramazani (Released)
George Tanner (Released)
Alexis Sanchez (Inter Milan)
Tahith Chong (Werder Bremen) Loan
Aliou Traore (Caen) Loan
Joel Pereira (Huddersfield) Loan
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New thread!

Manchester United transfers so far : Tom Heaton as backup GK.
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Ketigaxxxx where are our signing???
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ May 29 2021, 09:42 AM)
New thread!

Manchester United transfers so far : Tom Heaton as backup GK.
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Lol crazy wages for Alaba. Looks like Perez still got money
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 29 2021, 05:15 PM)
Lol crazy wages for Alaba. Looks like Perez still got money
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Looks like Varane or Ramos might left this summer, I don't think he got so much money lo
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 29 2021, 05:15 PM)
Lol crazy wages for Alaba. Looks like Perez still got money
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Free transfer is like this. The money saved on transfer fee gets added onto the wages.
Pogba will take note. Though I think Raiola stands to make more from a transfer than a free contract.

In terms of games played, 19 year old Greenwood played 52 games for Manchester United this season.
I think only Bruno and Rashford have more games. I am genuinely worried Ole's short term approach will negatively affect our youngsters development. It is either feast or famine. Greenwood has too many games for a 19 year old, while Brandon Williams wasted a year.

Transfers, still very quiet. Liverpool making moves already, and rumours are Chelsea & City also lining up targets once their final is over.
The longer United mull over transfers and leave it late, the higher the chance it will not end well.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ May 29 2021, 06:01 PM)
Free transfer is like this. The money saved on transfer fee gets added onto the wages.
Pogba will take note. Though I think Raiola stands to make more from a transfer than a free contract.

In terms of games played, 19 year old Greenwood played 52 games for Manchester United this season.
I think only Bruno and Rashford have more games. I am genuinely worried Ole's short term approach will negatively affect our youngsters development. It is either feast or famine. Greenwood has too many games for a 19 year old, while Brandon Williams wasted a year.

Transfers, still very quiet. Liverpool making moves already, and rumours are Chelsea & City also lining up targets once their final is over.
The longer United mull over transfers and leave it late, the higher the chance it will not end well.
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Always leave it to last min. Think only one window we did transfer early. The window herrera and shaw joined. If done early will be good. If not expect last min panic buy lo as usual. Lower expectation haha
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 29 2021, 06:25 PM)
Always leave it to last min. Think only one window we did transfer early. The window herrera and shaw joined. If done early will be good. If not expect last min panic buy lo as usual. Lower expectation haha
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Even that was a late transfer.
Herrera's transfer was supposed to be completed in the previous window to the one that he actually joined. United left it so late the deadline was up before they could complete the transfer, and made commitments to both club & player that it would go through the following window.
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it will be late transfer signing again as usual.. United got a director of football which is his first time doing the job.. basically learning while on the job for the biggest football club in the world

can see same thing going on with other important positions in the club as well.. sigh.. in 3 years they will be good hopefully
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next season looks worrying
rivals getting stronger
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Will miracle continue to happen to us on the 3rd season?
3rd place on last 2 seasons
2nd Place on last season

Will we get 1st or drop back to mid-table?

With Ole I am inclined to the latter..
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Slick football going on in the UCL final.. damn jelly
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next season i gonna watch like 10 games, if his game management and tactical not improve, i dont think we can win cup.
even Moyes tweak his gameplan when something doesn't work.

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QUOTE(john_white @ May 30 2021, 03:56 AM)
next season i gonna watch like 10 games, if his game management and tactical not improve, i dont think we can win cup.
even Moyes tweak his gameplan when something doesn't work.
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Sure or not.. u dont wanna watch Sancho do some magic? Lol
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chelsea win without doing extraordinary play while pep really stubborn to change his gameplan.
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Pep doing an Ole! Lol... Anyway some say that Tuchel honeymoon aje maa..

One hell of a honeymoon..
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Watched CL final.

Conclusion: -
1) Man City will buy striker for sure. Most probably Kane around 150M. Unless Levy die die want set the price as 200M, and most probably Kane will refuse to play for Spurs if that happen. Kane was quite stupid to sign a new contact until 2024.

2) Football really become less exciting nowadays due to coach more and more emphasizing defence instead of attacking.

3) If we are unable to upgrade our squad, the next season top 3 will be Man City, Liverpool, and Chelsea. No doubt about that.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ May 30 2021, 05:20 AM)
Watched CL final.

Conclusion: -
1) Man City will buy striker for sure. Most probably Kane around 150M. Unless Levy die die want set the price as 200M, and most probably Kane will refuse to play for Spurs if that happen. Kane was quite stupid to sign a new contact until 2024.

2) Football really become less exciting nowadays due to coach more and more emphasizing defence instead of attacking.

3) If we are unable to upgrade our squad, the next season top 3 will be Man City, Liverpool, and Chelsea. No doubt about that.
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Although too defensive on the 2nd half, Chelski really did well.. they clearly know who to double up to, when to full press, which area to anticipate for interception..

One part which is really impressive was their players ball control seems to be improved a lot..

No doubt Citeh will invest immediately.. might get Grealish too

Based on current form, highly likely that top 3 gonna be like that

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Haha finally tuchel win the cup after losing previous year

So can confirm PSG and City are big money club with still 0 european success sweat.gif rclxub.gif

This time must applaud roman moves 2 chop his player legend 2 get so far in laugh.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 30 2021, 06:18 AM)
Haha finally tuchel win the cup after losing previous year

So can confirm PSG and City are big money club with still 0 european success sweat.gif rclxub.gif

This time must applaud roman moves 2 chop his player legend 2 get so far in laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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meanwhile glazers and ogs fans....
4 years w/o trophy
ole already had nearly 2.5 seasons (0.5 as interim)
ole is just another jm copycat
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Tuchel single handedly saved Chelsea’s season. laugh.gif
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Wow. It sucks to be Manchester United fan sekarang. Even team below us in the league can win europa and ucl trophy. Dang.....
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Chelsea good game. Luck pun kana ambil kira juga.

Mengyu kena drag main penalti kira macam main tikam.

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Hope this wake up Glazers, it's only so far that we can go with past glories. OLE will not bring us any further. He has to go
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QUOTE(damnself @ May 30 2021, 07:24 AM)
Wow. It sucks to be Manchester United fan sekarang. Even team below us in the league can win europa and ucl trophy. Dang.....
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Even Leicester won the FA cup..
Only MU the throphyless among the top 5 with Liverpool 😂

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Giroud also untung. Haha 😂

Van De Beek mesti jealous of Hakim Ziyech. From europa runners up to ucl winner. Meanwhile he from europa runners up to sitting on the bench 😂
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 30 2021, 06:18 AM)
Haha finally tuchel win the cup after losing previous year

So can confirm PSG and City are big money club with still 0 european success sweat.gif rclxub.gif

This time must applaud roman moves 2 chop his player legend 2 get so far in laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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Since Roman bought the club, the strategy is to keep sacking their coaches until you hire a coach that win something immediately, and it has worked damn well for them. 2 UCL in last 9 years and a few league titles.

Roman got no patience to rebuild a squad or wait 2-3 seasons for a team to gel. Chelsea is definitely not a club for newbie manager to gain their managerial experience points and up their level.

Ole got it pretty comfortable here. All he has to do is win a few match in a row to secure his job when he is under pressure.
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im so jealous.

tuchel transformed this chelsea team into UCL champions in a very short period. imagine if ole hired as their manager. "progress" "chelsea dna" crap
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QUOTE(glaxo @ May 30 2021, 08:03 AM)
Even Leicester won the FA cup..
Only MU the throphyless among the top 5 with Liverpool 😂
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Haha mengyu and liverpool sanak saudara selamanya🤣
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Club legend Lampard sacked within 1 season

Club Legend Pirlo sacked in 1 season and he won 2 trophy

Club Legend Zidane sacked himself after an underwhelming season

Club Legend Ole remained secure in job after he bottled it again and again

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QUOTE(cedriclee @ May 30 2021, 09:41 AM)
Club legend Lampard sacked within 1 season

Club Legend Pirlo sacked in 1 season and he won 2 trophy

Club Legend Zidane sacked himself after an underwhelming season

Club Legend Ole remained secure in job after he bottled it again and again
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Haha guess money truly can buy success after all laugh.gif laugh.gif

Zidane did great with generation 1 in galaticos

No other club can win 4 in a row CL again

Mengyu still trying 2 live the SAF spirit rebuilding i guess laugh.gif laugh.gif
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And Chelsea is just one UCL away from equalling our European cup trophy. In fact if you wanna just count the UCL alone they’re equal with us. Yeah, we are just like pool talking about history last time.

If Ole is given the war chest this summer & he flops again, there willl be a new manager by Xmas this year.
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 30 2021, 09:52 AM)
Haha guess money truly can buy success after all laugh.gif laugh.gif

Zidane did great with generation 1 in galaticos

No other club can win 4 in a row CL again

Mengyu still trying 2 live the SAF spirit rebuilding i guess laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Zidane win straight UCL with a prime CR7, now without CR7 he failed. Makes me questions how good is he as a tactician

Menyu keep saying SAF have to build for 3-4 years to taste success. Just because of this we're gonna give every manager 3-4 years time?

If Like that 30 years later also can't taste success again. Modern football has changed.
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QUOTE(treblecase @ May 30 2021, 09:53 AM)
And Chelsea is just one UCL away from equalling our European cup trophy. In fact if you wanna just count the UCL alone they’re equal with us. Yeah, we are just like pool talking about history last time.

If Ole is given the war chest this summer & he flops again, there willl be a new manager by Xmas this year.
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What if he's staying at the top in xmas or Jan and given another new contract? Hahaha

After new contract, then flops.. And repeat this every season

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Since Roman bought the club, the strategy is to keep sacking their coaches until you hire a coach that win something immediately, and it has worked damn well for them. 2 UCL in last 9 years and a few league titles.

Roman got no patience to rebuild a squad or wait 2-3 seasons for a team to gel. Chelsea is definitely not a club for newbie manager to gain their managerial experience points and up their level.

Ole got it pretty comfortable here. All he has to do is win a few match in a row to secure his job when he is under pressure.
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There is a difference to both owners, primarily in their objectives for the club.

Abramovich prioritizes trophies and performance. This is evidenced by his actions since taking ownership. The only season where he deviated was when he tried to instil a club philosophy style of play inspired by the legendary Barca side which saw him hire Ancelotti. That phase didn't satisfy him and he went back to wanting to win stuff.

The Glazers run United like a corporate entity prioritizing profits and protecting their owner dividends. This is evidenced by their actions since taking ownership. All transfer funds were a fraction of the revenue generated by the club so it was all self funded. Old Trafford as a stadium has been left to rot and is now a huge issue, a monument to our profit first policy.

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Zidane win straight UCL with a prime CR7, now without CR7 he failed. Makes me questions how good is he as a tactician

Menyu keep saying SAF have to build for 3-4 years to taste success. Just because of this we're gonna give every manager 3-4 years time?

If Like that 30 years later also can't taste success again. Modern football has changed.
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Zidane is a potent tactician. You do not win multiple CLs without being one.
At the highest level, money and squad alone cannot take you to the title. Look at PSG. Even poor Pep in recent years.

Zidane does not get the credit he deserves.

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so, Ole stil the manager now?
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 30 2021, 09:52 AM)
Haha guess money truly can buy success after all laugh.gif laugh.gif

Zidane did great with generation 1 in galaticos

No other club can win 4 in a row CL again

Mengyu still trying 2 live the SAF spirit rebuilding i guess laugh.gif laugh.gif
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rebuilding and wait for 6 years to prove that Ole is SAF reincarnation
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And Chelsea is just one UCL away from equalling our European cup trophy. In fact if you wanna just count the UCL alone they’re equal with us. Yeah, we are just like pool talking about history last time.

If Ole is given the war chest this summer & he flops again, there willl be a new manager by Xmas this year.
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There is a difference to both owners, primarily in their objectives for the club.

Abramovich prioritizes trophies and performance. This is evidenced by his actions since taking ownership. The only season where he deviated was when he tried to instil a club philosophy style of play inspired by the legendary Barca side which saw him hire Ancelotti. That phase didn't satisfy him and he went back to wanting to win stuff.

The Glazers run United like a corporate entity prioritizing profits and protecting their owner dividends. This is evidenced by their actions since taking ownership. All transfer funds were a fraction of the revenue generated by the club so it was all self funded. Old Trafford as a stadium has been left to rot and is now a huge issue, a monument to our profit first policy.
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Our stadium dulu is top notch condition, now sampah compared to other stadiums. Don’t need to go far, even our neighbour not only have top class stadium, training facility pun power. This one mmg glazer punya fault.
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Our stadium dulu is top notch condition, now sampah compared to other stadiums. Don’t need to go far, even our neighbour not only have top class stadium, training facility pun power. This one mmg glazer punya fault.
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What a sad state of affair.

It’s gonna depend who we can get this summer. The rumoured Kane, Sancho, Varane acquisition is out of the question as Ole has only a £150m transfer budget. And City would likely win Kane’s signature what with them losing the UCL last nite & Aguero’s departure.

But as Tucel has proven with Chelsea, when none of the players he has currently in the Chelsea squad his acquisition, but still managed to finished a credible 4th in EPL & most importantly winning UCL, you begin to wonder if getting a coach’s preferred players is that important afterall.
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If someone just judge our past 2 years performance based on the result without watching single match, for sure they will say ole is the right person as it show progressive result, we are on right track on rebuilding bla bla bla. But is it what happening in reality? I am not convinced at all. To me Ole either is genius which nobody understand him or he is just a clueless manager, I am inclined to latter. He always sticked to the same players on his starting xi whenever possible because that is the only game plan he have, rely on luck and individual brilliant. Will a manager keep playing his injured player while keep the sub in cold storage or just give tiny playtime to the sub. When lose in big game, excuse given is we need strengthen our sub because our current sub is useless, Ole and his coaching team is the one that make them useless. As a manager you should know all your players strength\weaknesses and capitalize it.

Here's the interview where Rashford mentioned 5-7 players already have injury since beginning of season. If Ole doesn't change and gave more trust and playing time to sub, our sub will forever useless to him no matter how many players we buy this summer.


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If you watch any of these two UCL finalist manager's interview.. you will noticed that these two managers are obsessed about football, they are just eat-sleep football kind of people..

If you watch Ole's interviews.. you will notice that he is obsessed about being another SAF
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With everyone's mind on the recent CL win for Chelsea, let me use this opportunity to highlight the performaces of a world class CDM. Kante. MotM in semis and the final.

He not just provides the defensive cover for the team, but is also talented enough to distribute when in possession and brings bags of energy to the midfield.
This allows for a regista style player in Jorginho to be paired with him which forms a strong midfield spine.

You need all 3 requisites in a single player - Defensive nous, distribution, energy.
Fred has atrocious distribution but has defensive nous & energy.
McTominay is mediocre defensively, ok in enery and distribution.

Which is why Ole persists with McFred.


I see Pogba getting a lot of stick for midfield performances but we need to keep in mind he needs to do defensive work which is not his forte when paired with either Fred or McTominay.
Imagine if we had Kante, and our midfield pivot was Pogba-Kante. France's world cup winning pivot. I would think it would change.

Still no reliable transfer news around a CDM yet.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ May 30 2021, 12:17 PM)
If you watch any of these two UCL finalist manager's interview.. you will noticed that these two managers are obsessed about football, they are just eat-sleep football kind of people..

If you watch Ole's interviews.. you will notice that he is obsessed about being another SAF
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And Roman even though he is ruthless, he still passionate about football and also business minded. Meanwhile glazers don’t know anything about football. I think this guys Futsal pun tak pernah main 😂😂
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and pep still have not win UCL with other teams except barca hehe
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SAF Never Give In docu is out now.. (pirate also out already).. lets watch and relive the gloray days laugh.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ May 30 2021, 01:00 PM)
With everyone's mind on the recent CL win for Chelsea, let me use this opportunity to highlight the performaces of a world class CDM. Kante. MotM in semis and the final.

He not just provides the defensive cover for the team, but is also talented enough to distribute when in possession and brings bags of energy to the midfield.
This allows for a regista style player in Jorginho to be paired with him which forms a strong midfield spine.

You need all 3 requisites in a single player - Defensive nous, distribution, energy.
Fred has atrocious distribution but has defensive nous & energy.
McTominay is mediocre defensively, ok in enery and distribution.

Which is why Ole persists with McFred.
I see Pogba getting a lot of stick for midfield performances but we need to keep in mind he needs to do defensive work which is not his forte when paired with either Fred or McTominay.
Imagine if we had Kante, and our midfield pivot was Pogba-Kante. France's world cup winning pivot. I would think it would change.

Still no reliable transfer news around a CDM yet.
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Yup like it or not currently McFred partnership the best we got there.. Matic also no longer can. Doubt vdb can fit playing there. Thts why priority should be a good CDM ahead of any

Under tuchel kante seem given more free role to go up and help attack too making it more flexible. But chelsea also got no good cover for kante.

As for the final.. Pep seem to gamble and tinkering his mid not playing rodri. Havert goal might not happen wt rodri cover backline. Still front player the one disappoint KDB, mahrez, sterling not showing up just like our final but atleast pep did make sub not waiting and hoping for magic only
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Kante is up for contract renewal.. just try grab him from Chelski la.. why not lol.. the dude is pure class on and off the field
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ May 30 2021, 02:27 PM)
Kante is up for contract renewal.. just try grab him from Chelski la.. why not lol.. the dude is pure class on and off the field
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yeah...but then again, why would he join us? lol
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yeah...but then again, why would he join us? lol
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ May 30 2021, 10:01 AM)
Zidane is a potent tactician. You do not win multiple CLs without being one.
At the highest level, money and squad alone cannot take you to the title. Look at PSG. Even poor Pep in recent years.

Zidane does not get the credit he deserves.
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Zidane was under attack half year ago and the board did not protect him at all, Ole on the other hand getting assurance from Kayu and Glazers at that time, it show how important a club owner/CEO confidence towards their manager.


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Kante is up for contract renewal.. just try grab him from Chelski la.. why not lol.. the dude is pure class on and off the field
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why would he want to join Ole? Pogba to chelsea make more sense.
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why would he want to join Ole? Pogba to chelsea make more sense.
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It is hard to accept, but we are now a Tier 2 club. Tier 1 players like Kante don't come here.

Tier 1 is City, Chelsea and Liverpool.
Tier 2 is MU, Spurs, Arsenal and Leicester.

Us buying Kante would be like Atletico Madrid buying Messi in his heyday. There is absolutely no reason for the player to join us. Kante is 30 and in the past 5 years; won the PL twice with 2 different teams, won the World Cup, won the Europa Cup and now the CL. He will want more trophies now. Even if he became available, I would expect City or Liverpool to snap him up if he stays in England.



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QUOTE(statikinetic @ May 30 2021, 04:22 PM)
It is hard to accept, but we are now a Tier 2 club. Tier 1 players like Kante don't come here.

Tier 1 is City, Chelsea and Liverpool.
Tier 2 is MU, Spurs, Arsenal and Leicester.

Us buying Kante would be like Atletico Madrid buying Messi in his heyday. There is absolutely no reason for the player to join us. Kante is 30 and in the past 5 years; won the PL twice with 2 different teams, won the World Cup, won the Europa Cup and now the CL. He will want more trophies now. Even if he became available, I would expect City or Liverpool to snap him up if he stays in England.
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If I jadi kante pun eventhough Manchester United fan I would not come. Why? Because on paper I certainly can win another 2 trophies. Super cup against Villarreal and also fifa club World Cup.

Tuchel confirm will strengthen his team for next season epl, facup and league cup and defend the ucl trophy. This one a little bit subjective but I think at least one trophy boleh.

This season pun mcm ada chance for ballon d or. Siapa lagi this year got chance? I can see kante, Suarez or lewandowski. Maybe next season also he gonna tapau ballon d or with strong chelsea team 😂
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Manchester City stars Raheem Sterling and Riyad Mahrez could be placed on the transfer list this summer.

Ahead of tonight's Champions League final against Chelsea, Sterling has found himself on the fringes of Pep Guardiola's starting XI.

Mahrez, however, has been a regular starter for the Premier League champions, who could turn their double into a treble tonight.

Nonetheless, the Daily Mail, reports that both forwards could be on their way out of the Etihad this summer as Man City look to make room for Aston Villa captain Jack Grealish and Tottenham striker Harry Kane.

The England internationals are expected to cost a combined £250million should they be sold.

Diorang mau pindah next door tak? 😂😂😂

https://www.google.com/amp/s/talksport.com/...-liverpool/amp/
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Manchester City stars Raheem Sterling and Riyad Mahrez could be placed on the transfer list this summer.

Ahead of tonight's Champions League final against Chelsea, Sterling has found himself on the fringes of Pep Guardiola's starting XI.

Mahrez, however, has been a regular starter for the Premier League champions, who could turn their double into a treble tonight.

Nonetheless, the Daily Mail, reports that both forwards could be on their way out of the Etihad this summer as Man City look to make room for Aston Villa captain Jack Grealish and Tottenham striker Harry Kane.

The England internationals are expected to cost a combined £250million should they be sold.

Diorang mau pindah next door tak? 😂😂😂

https://www.google.com/amp/s/talksport.com/...-liverpool/amp/
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After putting some thought into it, perhaps that would be an interesting option.
My initial reaction was outright rejection though.

Sterling would be more to United's liking being English and 26 years old. But this would also mean he would be priced accordingly. Which means an absurd fee, not to mention wages.
If we are tired of inconsistency, then we must realize Sterling blows hot and cold way too often. Based on his performance this season, I just don't see how he would add anything to us.

Mahrez I am more open to. At 30, it would be a short term fix and he plays RW in the form of an inside forward. Age-wise he would be cheaper and he does not attract the "English premium" fee.
If we can get him on the cheap (Say 20M in current pandemic conditions) then yes. We get a good player as a short term fix and allow Diallo & Pellestri time to develop. This does not block their path because Mahrez is short term, unlike Sancho. Greenwood gets to move back to his natural FW position.

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Manchester City stars Raheem Sterling and Riyad Mahrez could be placed on the transfer list this summer.

Ahead of tonight's Champions League final against Chelsea, Sterling has found himself on the fringes of Pep Guardiola's starting XI.

Mahrez, however, has been a regular starter for the Premier League champions, who could turn their double into a treble tonight.

Nonetheless, the Daily Mail, reports that both forwards could be on their way out of the Etihad this summer as Man City look to make room for Aston Villa captain Jack Grealish and Tottenham striker Harry Kane.

The England internationals are expected to cost a combined £250million should they be sold.

Diorang mau pindah next door tak? 😂😂😂

https://www.google.com/amp/s/talksport.com/...-liverpool/amp/
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Diorang mao join x. City being the current champ still look to upgrade their first team lineup.... whistling.gif
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Man City
Confirm Garcia, Aguero leaving. Can act earlier to find replacement.

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Confirm Cavani extension

Confirm Cavani extension earlier is good job. But need to be faster on buying and selling. Even Tom Heaton also not official.


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Diorang mao join x. City being the current champ still look to upgrade their first team lineup.... whistling.gif
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Mana tau diorang mau buat a new version of “welcome to manchester” 😂
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SAF beat the likes of bayern, real madrid with aberdeen before being wanted by man utd

ole got relegated in epl and struggled in norway before being offered to man utd on a silver platter

the difference? he is not ready. and yet he get the players to bought his idea "trust the process" crap. pity pogba n bruno

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Jelly. We beat Chelsea to win ucl. N years onward they won ucl twice liao.

Pep kesian from treble become single. But leauge champion also syok la.

Yeah kante is the difference..1 person do mcfred job. City 1 shot whole match...roman really power always effective when change managers.

See spurs, us, pool before klop. Change managers gets nothing also.
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after watching alex documentary never give in, i feel bitter and angry, and cannot believe that this super sub baby-faced asaasin once scored at stoppage time prefer not to use subs for 90min in final and just let it slip like that.. pisses me offf .. really u cannot win anything with this dude

but to think back, along the way ..man utd is just not good enough.. without top players, Ole will just become from hero to zero

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"Never Give In" is really good docu movie.. didnt know his son good at directing documentary

SAF is for sure the best of them all.. Aberdeen with no training ground also can win the league and european cup lol

Always dare to take a risk.. and it payed off big time

For an old man his memory is super.. still a fighter and a winner

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"Never Give In" is really good docu movie.. didnt know his son good at directing documentary

SAF is for sure the best of them all.. Aberdeen with no training ground also can win the league and european cup lol

Always dare to take a risk.. and it payed off big time

For an old man his memory is super.. still a fighter and a winner
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ya i got read SAF book. one of the keys of winning is take risk. have to agree ole didn't take much risk but i think he too influenced by SAF d la.

SAF also admit, he regret take too much risk in UCL. league have to take risk though. we proceed further in UCL when he change to more conservative approach as he admitted. so i guess ole also got influenced by this.
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ May 31 2021, 12:35 AM)
after watching alex documentary never give in, i feel bitter and angry, and cannot believe that this super sub baby-faced asaasin once scored at stoppage time prefer not to use subs for 90min in final and just let it slip like that.. pisses me offf .. really u cannot win anything with this dude

but to think back, along the way ..man utd is just not good enough.. without top players, Ole will just become from hero to zero
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put it this way, if ole go chelsea, he sure will flop cause tactical and stuff still have much to improve and learn.

if tuchel go here, don't think he can win anything with mcfred, lindeloft as well. so both coaches are at the best fit team haha. tuchel shows lampard management lesson when he use jorginho and kante to win stuff. lampard ditch both of them.

the bench doesn't give confidence for ole to sub them. results go the other way, and so it's wrong decision. but if sub liao then lose, lets be honest, we will also bombard him. so it's 50/50 chance and he made a wrong one because in ET we are like boxer hanging on ropes. i don't believe ole won't use sub to gamble if martial, cavani, greenwood, jogba are on bench instead.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ May 31 2021, 10:18 AM)
put it this way, if ole go chelsea, he sure will flop cause tactical and stuff still have much to improve and learn.

if tuchel go here, don't think he can win anything with mcfred, lindeloft as well. so both coaches are at the best fit team haha. tuchel shows lampard management lesson when he use jorginho and kante to win stuff. lampard ditch both of them.

the bench doesn't give confidence for ole to sub them. results go the other way, and so it's wrong decision. but if sub liao then lose, lets be honest, we will also bombard him. so it's 50/50 chance and he made a wrong one because in ET we are like boxer hanging on ropes. i don't believe ole won't use sub to gamble if martial, cavani, greenwood, jogba are on bench instead.
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i think, with the CV, Roman wont hire him in the first place at CFC.

Roman did that with Lampard. realised the mistake and replaced him after 1 season.

on the risk taking part. Ole influenced by SAF? on the final game for a trophy. 90mins with tired legs. not even think of substituting 1 or 2 players to change the tempo? hmm.gif our bench quality really so bad? that not one can come on at 70mins to change? sweat.gif

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hehe anything to protect Ole.. who knows what Tuchel can do what with this United team, to the likes of McFred and Lindelof.. might be good

their CB Rudiger was weak as hell, their midfield get dominated by McFred back when Lampard was in charge.. Now? brows.gif

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.. u kno what, it doesnt matter. i take that back

pep lost to tuchel.. so yeah .. thats football

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now i doubt the GOAT can win another CL with their respective team laugh.gif laugh.gif
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i think, with the CV, Roman wont hire him in the first place at CFC.

Roman did that with Lampard. realised the mistake and replaced him after 1 season.

on the risk taking part. Ole influenced by SAF? on the final game for a trophy. 90mins with tired legs. not even think of substituting 1 or 2 players to change the tempo?  hmm.gif our bench quality really so bad? that not one can come on at 70mins to change? sweat.gif
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The fact we pancit on extra time kinda disappointing

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Sergio Aguero: Barcelona to sign Manchester City striker on two-year deal
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After speaking about Zidane a day or two ago, here is the difference.
He did not get sufficient backing from the club for medium to long term goals.

"Zinedine Zidane has criticised Real Madrid and club president Florentino Perez in an open letter, blaming a lack of trust and "messages leaked to the media" for his decision to quit as head coach.

Zidane resigned last week after two years in the job in his second spell in charge, following his failure to land a trophy during the 2020-21 season.
He had not spoken publicly about his reasons, with no farewell news conference -- until a surprise move on Monday, when he wrote an open letter published in the Madrid-based sports newspaper Diario AS."

https://www.espn.com/soccer/real-madrid/sto...leaked-messages
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doubt that any clubs that joined ESL will be willing to spend next season...
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Sergio Aguero: Barcelona to sign Manchester City striker on two-year deal
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57308898
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Haha. Ditch old Suarez but then buy old Aguero. Where’s the logic? 🤦🏻‍♂️
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QUOTE(damnself @ May 31 2021, 11:10 PM)
Haha. Ditch old Suarez but then buy old Aguero. Where’s the logic? 🤦🏻‍♂️
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they no money so release those heavy weights le. is the presidential election coming? looks like damage control from last season drama with messi.
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Have a we renewed Ole contract?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-nightmare.html

hehe soccer. so it's logical american owners want to esl as it's same as mls. miami lose like nobody biz also no issue la, plenty time to grow
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Have a we renewed Ole contract?
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Most sensible thing to do is to delay the contract renewal until the end of next season.. his current contract is until 2022 anyway.. its not like other clubs are lining up offering him jobs..
and we all know how Ole perform whenever he feels that his position is not fully secured..

Anyway, my bet is they already renewed his contract but only will announce it after they announce a star signing..

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jun 1 2021, 10:38 AM)
Most sensible thing to do is to delay the contract renewal until the end of next season.. his current contract is until 2022 anyway.. its not like other clubs are lining up offering him jobs..
and we all know how Ole perform whenever he feels that his position is not fully secured..

Anyway, my bet is they already renewed his contract but only will announce it after they announce a star signing..
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man utd should give contract on monthly basis baru ole ada otak macam SAF brows.gif whistling.gif
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...nced-hours.html

Dunno what's the lure. Play esl ka
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Kesian everton. Baru nak up dgn jiran sebelah 😅
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Manchester United forward Mason Greenwood has withdrawn from England's provisional Euro 2020 squad while team-mate Jesse Lingard is to miss out.

Greenwood, 19, was expected to make Gareth Southgate's 26-man party for the European Championships after returning to form at the end of last season.

However United say he will remain in Manchester for treatment on an "underlying injury".

BBC Sport understands Lingard has failed to make Southgate's final squad.

Lingard, 28, excelled during a loan spell at West Ham United in the second half of the Premier League campaign - scoring nine goals and making a further five assists in 16 appearances for the Hammers.

England boss Southgate will name his final squad for the tournament on Tuesday at 17:00 BST, with six players now due to be cut after Greenwood pulled out.

Greenwood featured in 52 games during the 2020-21 campaign, scoring 12 goals, as United finished second in the Premier League and reached the final of the Europa League.

He made his England debut in the Nations League victory over Iceland last September, however he has not featured since after he and Manchester City forward Phil Foden were told to leave Southgate's squad as a result of a breach of coronavirus quarantine guidelines following that match.

United have not said what the injury is, however Greenwood's withdrawal from the European Under-21 Championships was because of a groin injury.

"Mason Greenwood has withdrawn from the provisional England squad in order to recover fully from an underlying injury that also kept him out of the Under-21 Euros in March," said a United statement.

"Mason's club appearances were managed carefully to maintain his availability through the intensive 2020-21 Premier League and Europa League schedule but a further spell of tournament football would not be beneficial and Mason will recuperate and prepare for pre-season training."


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QUOTE(damnself @ May 31 2021, 11:10 PM)
Haha. Ditch old Suarez but then buy old Aguero. Where’s the logic? 🤦🏻‍♂️
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 1 2021, 09:14 AM)
they no money so release those heavy weights le. is the presidential election coming? looks like damage control from last season drama with messi.
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Now new president (ex president)
It seems they will get decent free signings (Depay, Wijnaldum & Garcia)
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Now new president (ex president)
It seems they will get decent free signings (Depay, Wijnaldum & Garcia)
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slowly regressing with these. if compare to prime barca players, ini mana boleh pakai
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 2 2021, 10:18 AM)
slowly regressing with these. if compare to prime barca players, ini mana boleh pakai
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La masia is no longer producing stars tongue.gif

Man Utd academy recently too...not too many up to top level

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smart move from Mason, better fully recover than risking wrecking his growth.. still young, more opportunities will come
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Just finish watching Sir Alex's documentary and been reflecting that people saying we should give Ole time to build the squad, just like how Sir Alex was given few years time to build it.

But the problem with this statement is Sir Alex was a European Cup winner with freaking Aberdeen. While Ole got his previous club relegated
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QUOTE(cedriclee @ Jun 3 2021, 12:11 AM)
Just finish watching Sir Alex's documentary and been reflecting that people saying we should give Ole time to build the squad, just like how Sir Alex was given few years time to build it.

But the problem with this statement is Sir Alex was a European Cup winner with freaking Aberdeen. While Ole got his previous club relegated
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Just to remind you, his previous club was Molde not Cardiff City, he came back to Molde after being sacked.
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La masia is no longer producing stars tongue.gif

Man Utd academy recently too...not too many up to top level
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QUOTE(cedriclee @ Jun 3 2021, 12:11 AM)
Just finish watching Sir Alex's documentary and been reflecting that people saying we should give Ole time to build the squad, just like how Sir Alex was given few years time to build it.

But the problem with this statement is Sir Alex was a European Cup winner with freaking Aberdeen. While Ole got his previous club relegated
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so need to give extra more time lololol. it's obvious ole is no saf and he is still apprentice. can only hope he learn and improve. and his learning is kinda slow biggrin.gif
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ns-stunned.html

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 3 2021, 10:53 AM)
Chose him over Ben Godfrey ..yikes
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QUOTE(Matchy @ May 31 2021, 11:07 PM)
doubt that any clubs that joined ESL will be willing to spend next season...
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I thought clubs still earn a lot thru tv rights and sponsorships?

Liverpool, Leicester, Barcelona, Real Madrid all has spent the money on transfers and new contracts.

Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd are on the market looking to bolster the squad too
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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Jun 3 2021, 11:31 AM)
I thought clubs still earn a lot thru tv rights and sponsorships?

Liverpool, Leicester, Barcelona, Real Madrid all has spent the money on transfers and new contracts.

Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd are on the market looking to bolster the squad too
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they probably earn way more from joining ESL than the usual tv rights/sponsorship. they probably still will spend, but probably not those expensive one. look at RM, they mainly sign to on free transfer (so far).
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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Jun 3 2021, 11:31 AM)
I thought clubs still earn a lot thru tv rights and sponsorships?

Liverpool, Leicester, Barcelona, Real Madrid all has spent the money on transfers and new contracts.

Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd are on the market looking to bolster the squad too
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United must and will spend.. probably 1 big name.. one of the oldest trick to appease fans.. so the protest the other day can be forgotten and sweep under the carpet tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jun 3 2021, 11:54 AM)
they probably earn way more from joining ESL than the usual tv rights/sponsorship. they probably still will spend, but probably not those expensive one. look at RM, they mainly sign to on free transfer (so far).
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But since ESL failed, clubs still got the money from sponsorships. Existing contracts for superstars are expensive too

QUOTE(jas029 @ Jun 3 2021, 11:55 AM)
United must and will spend.. probably 1 big name.. one of the oldest trick to appease fans.. so the protest the other day can be forgotten and sweep under the carpet tongue.gif
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Well, galaticos and man city wannabe without trophies.
I hope we get Sancho and a defensive/all rounded midfielder like Saul

Every year, let's sign a midfielder to free up pogba. When the tactics doesn't allow him to do so except when last time, with Herrera and Matic(DM) few years back.

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Well, galaticos and man city wannabe without trophies.
I hope we get Sancho and a defensive/all rounded midfielder like Saul

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what trophies? Ole said trophies are for egos, not real indication of progress.. so no trophies is ok what

i think United will sign Sancho.. and will try to sign Varane.. thats it..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jun 3 2021, 12:48 PM)
what trophies? Ole said trophies are for egos, not real indication of progress.. so no trophies is ok what

i think United will sign Sancho.. and will try to sign Varane.. thats it..
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Current rumour is Varane available for GBP40M, if this is true and we still hasn't do nothing about it, this will be a horrible transfer window again.
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maybe we waiting to see players performance in euro so only wil sign players after that whistling.gif

then comes the familiar saying "we will sign players when right players are available for the right price"
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jun 3 2021, 12:48 PM)
what trophies? Ole said trophies are for egos, not real indication of progress.. so no trophies is ok what

i think United will sign Sancho.. and will try to sign Varane.. thats it..
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Did ole said that??

Sancho is a good buy. Best technical player along sterling right now. A versatile playmaker that can play anywhere in front.

English, technical, playmaker, right winger, fast, proven 3 years record in bundesliga, can help to break opposition pressure by come deep to receive ball. What man Utd need right now
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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Jun 3 2021, 12:32 PM)
Well, galaticos and man city wannabe without trophies.
I hope we get Sancho and a defensive/all rounded midfielder like Saul

Every year, let's sign a midfielder to free up pogba. When the tactics doesn't allow him to do so except when last time, with Herrera and Matic(DM) few years back.
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Sancho hopefully.. we have track record of going back to the same players we failed to sign on the previous window.. but we'll see

QUOTE(even_steven @ Jun 3 2021, 01:10 PM)
Current rumour is Varane available for GBP40M, if this is true and we still hasn't do nothing about it, this will be a horrible transfer window again.
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it had been horrible for the past few years.. and it probably will continue so.. until proven otherwise i guess
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 3 2021, 01:52 PM)
maybe we waiting to see players performance in euro so only wil sign players after that whistling.gif

then comes the familiar saying "we will sign players when right players are available for the right price"
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i think this is what United are doing right now regarding Sancho.. probably hoping that the value will drop a bit..

could backfire though, if the player performed great the price will go up..


QUOTE(sonicbull @ Jun 3 2021, 01:52 PM)
Did ole said that??

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yes Ole did say that lol.. google it
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jun 3 2021, 02:06 PM)
i think this is what United are doing right now regarding Sancho.. probably hoping that the value will drop a bit..

could backfire though, if the player performed great the price will go up..
yes Ole did say that lol.. google it
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Spurs could be on the way to sign Conte.. plus Paratici as new director of football..

they getting serious.. damn
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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Jun 3 2021, 01:52 PM)
Did ole said that??

Sancho is a good buy. Best technical player along sterling right now. A versatile playmaker that can play anywhere in front.

English, technical, playmaker, right winger, fast, proven 3 years record in bundesliga, can help to break opposition pressure by come deep to receive ball. What man Utd need right now
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Media hyped player. Is he better than Berardi? Lozano? Sima? Man?

Can get 2 players of similar quality players for 50m.

He's good, but not 100m good. Rather spend stupid money on Lewandowski than sancho and move cavani to the side.
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Spurs could be on the way to sign Conte.. plus Paratici as new director of football..

they getting serious.. damn
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Why is other team all making the right move to restructure, but we are like digging deeper...
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QUOTE(Broadings @ Jun 3 2021, 09:06 PM)
Why is other team all making the right move to restructure, but we are like digging deeper...
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Because we are Manchester United! We do what we want! #tiberrr

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QUOTE(jas029 @ Jun 3 2021, 02:00 PM)
Sancho hopefully.. we have track record of going back to the same players we failed to sign on the previous window.. but we'll see
it had been horrible for the past few years.. and it probably will continue so.. until proven otherwise i guess
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Yeah Let's wait for the transfers

QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 3 2021, 02:24 PM)
Media hyped player. Is he better than Berardi? Lozano? Sima? Man?

Can get 2 players of similar quality players for 50m.

He's good, but not 100m good. Rather spend stupid money on Lewandowski than sancho and move cavani to the side.
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You can read and watch sancho analysis. He's good and at least 3 years record in bundesliga. Seems to be doing well in England national team too.

The best English technical player along sterling, foden and TAA, now and yes those players are in our rival teams which show how much we lack in quality

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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Jun 4 2021, 01:14 PM)
Yeah  Let's wait for the transfers
You can read and watch sancho analysis. He's good and at least 3 years record in bundesliga. Seems to be doing well in England national team too.

The best English technical player along sterling, foden and TAA, now and yes those players are in our rival teams which show how  much we lack in quality
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I'm not saying he's not good. For 100m, he better be great. I'd rather have kane for those crazy figures if being english is a criteria in selecting players.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 4 2021, 04:18 PM)
I'm not saying he's not good. For 100m, he better be great. I'd rather have kane for those crazy figures if being english is a criteria in selecting players.
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read somewhere we can get for 80 or less this season. but looks like this is going to be either haaland or sancho that leaves them this season. if haaland leaves to other club for a huge fee, then they likely wont release sancho already as money not their issue liao.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 3 2021, 01:52 PM)
maybe we waiting to see players performance in euro so only wil sign players after that whistling.gif

then comes the familiar saying "we will sign players when right players are available for the right price"
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then will get inflated last minute price biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 4 2021, 04:18 PM)
I'm not saying he's not good. For 100m, he better be great. I'd rather have kane for those crazy figures if being english is a criteria in selecting players.
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A good player will fail under the wrong tactics. That's why City lost to Chelsea in UCL and us lost to Villarreal.

Pogba transfer alone can buy whole Villarreal team

QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 4 2021, 05:04 PM)
read somewhere we can get for 80 or less this season. but looks like this is going to be either haaland or sancho that leaves them this season. if haaland leaves to other club for a huge fee, then they likely wont release sancho already as money not their issue liao.
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Dortmund always has good young players.
If Sancho leaves, they still have Brandt, hazard, reus or can always buy new player with the Sancho money

Haaland leaves? 16 y.o. moukoko striker is the next big thing but still need not yet at Haaland level obviously. Haaland has 65m release clause I think
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 3 2021, 01:52 PM)
maybe we waiting to see players performance in euro so only wil sign players after that whistling.gif

then comes the familiar saying "we will sign players when right players are available for the right price"
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I consider that a failure in transfer planning on the part of the club.
They already knew the players on the target list back in March.
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jun 4 2021, 10:06 PM)
then will get inflated last minute price  biggrin.gif
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Yes repeated script every season. Hope got some chance of a change this season
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 5 2021, 11:08 AM)
Yes repeated script every season. Hope got some chance of a change this season
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cannot blame woodward already
same script very late to bid
then inflated price or went for option b/c
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Haha cant wait the euro yoh laugh.gif rclxms.gif

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Puigmal released liao. Can't see his special name on match d haha
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Puigmal released liao. Can't see his special name on match d haha
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Everytime I see his name, I misread it as Pugima.
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Since it is hard to buy player now, because most of the target is already with EURO squad, we should focus on selling and loaning out players that is not participate in EURO, e.g. Martial, AP, young players.

But the transfer team is just really weak. So far only confirmation releasing of U23 players. Even Tom Heaton is not finalized, damn.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesportre...nand-claim/amp/

Wonder what he is on, we are no where close to them.
Next season we will definitely go back to where we belong.
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What a great move by AC Milan. They really give it to Raiola and Donnaruma. I hope other clubs follow suit and stop dealing with Raiola and his clients. And by other clubs I mean our club.
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world class DM mana? We need a DM, CB and RW in that manner. Striker not a must since Cavani signed an extension.
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What a great move by AC Milan. They really give it to Raiola and Donnaruma. I hope other clubs follow suit and stop dealing with Raiola and his clients. And by other clubs I mean our club.
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Arsenal plotting Neves swoop (The Times)
Portuguese star touted for Emirates switch

Arsenal are plotting a summer swoop for Wolves midfielder Ruben Neves - according to The Times.
The Gunners see the 24-year-old as a potential replacement for Dani Ceballos, who is set to return to Real Madrid after the expiration of his latest loan deal at Emirates Stadium.
Neves has two years remaining on his contract at Wolves and could be available for around £35 million ($50m) this summer.
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go open your IG and read what De gea post about romero. biggrin.gif
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sancho hit tiang in friendlies, 100M euro, yet ruben is going to arsenal. wtf?
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Well well, potentially there goes the CDM signing that we were discussing the past few months.
Those folks who thought Neves would fit into our CDM position....prepare for disappointment. Not just on the pitch we concede first, even in transfers we seem to be missing out the early transfers.

"Arsenal close in on Neves

Arsenal are closing in on a deal to sign Wolves midfielder Ruben Neves, according to Todofichajes.
The Portugal international is believed to have agreed a four-year contract with the Gunners.

A fee has yet to be agreed between the two clubs however, with Neves valued in the region of €40 million (£34m/$49m)."
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 8 2021, 11:10 PM)
Well well, potentially there goes the CDM signing that we were discussing the past few months.
Those folks who thought Neves would fit into our CDM position....prepare for disappointment. Not just on the pitch we concede first, even in transfers we seem to be missing out the early transfers.

"Arsenal close in on Neves

Arsenal are closing in on a deal to sign Wolves midfielder Ruben Neves, according to Todofichajes.
The Portugal international is believed to have agreed a four-year contract with the Gunners.

A fee has yet to be agreed between the two clubs however, with Neves valued in the region of €40 million (£34m/$49m)."
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 8 2021, 11:10 PM)
Well well, potentially there goes the CDM signing that we were discussing the past few months.
Those folks who thought Neves would fit into our CDM position....prepare for disappointment. Not just on the pitch we concede first, even in transfers we seem to be missing out the early transfers.

"Arsenal close in on Neves

Arsenal are closing in on a deal to sign Wolves midfielder Ruben Neves, according to Todofichajes.
The Portugal international is believed to have agreed a four-year contract with the Gunners.

A fee has yet to be agreed between the two clubs however, with Neves valued in the region of €40 million (£34m/$49m)."
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We are used to conceding first as long as get our 2nd to 4th choice transfer target, then everything will be fine. No one cares about getting top transfer target. It's only to soothe the ego of some managers. We'll be okay with our 2nd to 4th choice👌
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we dont like pay 40m one. we looking for 80m target bruce.gif
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looks like we will start panic buy after the euro has been concluded since euro starts in few days time.
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go open your IG and read what De gea post about romero.  biggrin.gif
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This is what madness is about..
Selling Romero, and get Tom Heaton in.. tsk
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 8 2021, 11:10 PM)
Well well, potentially there goes the CDM signing that we were discussing the past few months.
Those folks who thought Neves would fit into our CDM position....prepare for disappointment. Not just on the pitch we concede first, even in transfers we seem to be missing out the early transfers.

"Arsenal close in on Neves

Arsenal are closing in on a deal to sign Wolves midfielder Ruben Neves, according to Todofichajes.
The Portugal international is believed to have agreed a four-year contract with the Gunners.

A fee has yet to be agreed between the two clubs however, with Neves valued in the region of €40 million (£34m/$49m)."
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1st transfer window for John Murtough as DOF
hope he can do better than woodward era signings
too much wasted
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Lol we have agreed terms with sancho. But bvb not yet
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1st transfer window for John Murtough as DOF
hope he can do better than woodward era signings
too much wasted
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with glazers, matt judge, murtuogh?
this is what going to happen:
- media transfer hyped like idiot (sancho, ronaldo, haaland, rice, neves)
- sign nobody until the last day transfer window, panic buy CB tyron mings
- jesse stays to cover winger
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This is what madness is about..
Selling Romero, and get Tom Heaton in.. tsk
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Romero was always leaving, he should have been allowed to 2 seasons ago. Back then, he played the Cup games. But once we reached the semis, Ole replaced him with De Gea instead.

He wanted to leave. With Henderson returning from loan there would be no place for him and his wages was pushing 100k as an international. Aston Villa I believe were interested in a transfer worth 8M. United blocked it. Whether it was because United thought they could end up squeezing Villa for more money we will never know, Romero was forced to stay.

Hence we ended up with a 100k per week international goalkeeper who was third choice and didn't even make the bench last season. Football mismanagement case study.

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Rumour say sancho 2nd highest paid behind ddg. Habisla if this the case
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Rumour say sancho 2nd highest paid behind ddg. Habisla if this the case
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There are no competitors at all, there is totally no need to offer such high wages.
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din realise that DDG already 30yo. watching him signed for us at 18yo...
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din realise that DDG already 30yo. watching him signed for us at 18yo...
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he was signed for 18mil, wasn't him?

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ah my bad...20 it is  doh.gif
he was signed for 18mil, wasn't him?
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betul 18 million. wow. cheap gila last time is it? right now keeper price pun like wth. donnaruma. kepa. allison. courtois. ederson  bangwall.gif
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10 years ago 19mil was quite a huge fee for GK
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Let's hope everything is ok for Eriksen. Can't forget what happened to Fabrice Muamba last time.
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Let's hope everything is ok for Eriksen. Can't forget what happened to Fabrice Muamba last time.
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Why Trippier ahead of my boy Shaw at LB?
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So Sancho is coming? I think I need to find my excitement from last season....I seemed to have dropped it somewhere.
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Why Trippier ahead of my boy Shaw at LB?
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aiyo so quiet here... anyone watching euro or not?
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aiyo so quiet here... anyone watching euro or not?
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DDG not playing also, watch what

btw Lindelöf and Pogba motm laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ljf123 @ Jun 16 2021, 11:46 AM)
DDG not playing also, watch what

btw Lindelöf and Pogba motm  laugh.gif
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DDG not playing also, watch what

btw Lindelöf and Pogba motm  laugh.gif
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Pogba got kante so no need worry about defending much haha if mctominay Fred then cham hhhhhh kante boss the midfield..tireless his interception really good and can join the attack his medium range to the front quite good not back/side pass haha..we need such DM

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Manchester United are interested in England and Atletico Madrid defender Kieran Trippier, but are not willing to meet his £20m valuation.

The former Burnley and Manchester City right-back, 30, won the Spanish league title with Atletico last season after joining from Tottenham.

He is keen on a move to United to join his family in the north west of England but is unlikely to demand a transfer.

United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer sees Trippier's versatility as an asset.

He played at left-back in England's Euro 2020 victory over Croatia on Sunday and can also play as a wing-back.

United are unwilling to meet Atletico's current valuation given Trippier's age and the fact he has one year left on his contract.

His release clause has been reported as being 40m euros (£34m).


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57462552
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jun 16 2021, 10:49 PM)
if the valuation is just 20m gbp, quite reasonable i guess... he is starting ahead of awb in england too
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jun 16 2021, 10:49 PM)
That’s cheap. What did the board is smoking? 😅 and get Sergio Ramos too lah before city got him. Don’t let him go there and win another epl 😂
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get ramos, ask ramos teach lindelof how to become dirty defender like him
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuu. benitez to everton. mcm best je....

Everton in talks with Rafa Benitez over coaching vacancy, Roberto Martinez also a candidate - sources

https://global.espn.com/football/everton-en...vacancy-sources
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The three passes pogba made against germany really good...if we have a really good DM then pogba CM Bruno AM.. Our busquest-xavi-iniesta wahaahaaa. BTW, bale mentoring James...
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QUOTE(Mu4ever80 @ Jun 17 2021, 03:18 PM)
The three passes pogba made against germany really good...if we have a really good DM then pogba CM Bruno AM.. Our busquest-xavi-iniesta wahaahaaa. BTW, bale mentoring James...
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James was very average in that game tbh. He was all speed, no end result.

that counter attack where he fly down the left, then cross over the head of all his 3 teammates. typical of him. could have released the ball earlier, lower to the ground, already goal. doh.gif


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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 17 2021, 04:18 PM)
James was very average in that game tbh. He was all speed, no end result.

that counter attack where he fly down the left, then cross over the head of all his 3 teammates. typical of him. could have released the ball earlier, lower to the ground, already goal.  doh.gif
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Hahaha nvm euro 2021 will be good experience for him( hopefully)he is only 23. BTW lindelof MOTM against Spain!
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Hahaha nvm euro 2021 will be good experience for him( hopefully)he is only 23. BTW lindelof MOTM against Spain!
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happy for lindelof, maybe he more suited to defend against Spanish style of attack.. in EPL, how many times make us lose points..  biggrin.gif
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Baru kalah in europa final against spanish
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Manchester United's lack of transfer progress is reflected in the slow pace around these parts.
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already know got euro but doesnt make move before. now euro ongoing. anything have to wait after euro... then wait delay and nego the window close then can use

- right player was not available for the right price laugh.gif
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already know got euro but doesnt make move before. now euro ongoing. anything have to wait after euro... then wait delay and nego the window close then can use

- right player was not available for the right price  laugh.gif
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there are different ways of dealing, some clubs has been working on a transfer for over a year or maybe half a year.. once transfer window open, just formality. most of the clubs prefer to wait and see the movement during the window transfer and hoping for the best deal. both have pros and cons. action vs reaction.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ey-HUNGARY.html

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jun 18 2021, 11:18 AM)
there are different ways of dealing, some clubs has been working on a transfer for over a year or maybe half a year.. once transfer window open, just formality. most of the clubs prefer to wait and see the movement during the window transfer and hoping for the best deal. both have pros and cons. action vs reaction.
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Manchester United had already agreed on the internal transfer targets back in March.

Transfer update:
Rumour has it that Manchester United has a 50M bid rejected by Real Madrid for Varane. Real Madrid apparently may have a change of heart to give Varane what he wants after releasing Ramos. RM may not want to lose both senior CBs in Ramos and Varane in the same window, and look to match incoming Alaba with Varane. It now depends on what Varane wants to do as his contract is up next season. Stay tuned. Please take note that there are conflicting accounts if a bid has gone in or not, so just throwing it here to liven things up.

Negotiation on Sancho is ongoing but it probably won't be known if it is successful until after the Euros.

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MANCHESTER UNITED's 2021-22 home kit has been 'leaked', and fans aren't impressed.

What could be the Red Devils' latest strip has been teased online, with a new shirt sponsor.

Plain red, with a similarly minimalistic white collar, the kit is unlikely to get anyone racing to the club shop.
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alexander isak, great talent
we have agent lindelof, we should get him
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Isn't Isak a bit similar to Martial and Rashford as a striker?


And here we have it folks, after the talk on Varane and Trippier.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...-prices-sources
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Isn't Isak a bit similar to Martial and Rashford as a striker?
And here we have it folks, after the talk on Varane and Trippier.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...-prices-sources
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Varane 1 year contract left and will cost around 50M pounds. Report saying we are not willing to match the price but Dono true or not. If its true then I'm really disappointed
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Varane 1 year contract left and will cost around 50M pounds. Report saying we are not willing to match the price but Dono true or not. If its true then I'm really disappointed
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Isn't that rather typical of MU transfer policy?

50M for a World Cup winner and multi time CL winning CB in his prime is too much.
But 50M for an unproven English RB from Crystal Palace and 80M for an English CB for Leicester is fine.
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Isn't that rather typical of MU transfer policy?

50M for a World Cup winner and multi time CL winning CB in his prime is too much.
But 50M for an unproven English RB from Crystal Palace and 80M for an English CB for Leicester is fine.
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exactly. if 80m for maguire is ok, varane easily worth x1.5 of that fee
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Varane 1 year contract left and will cost around 50M pounds. Report saying we are not willing to match the price but Dono true or not. If its true then I'm really disappointed
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some report actually said united make 50m offer but RM asking for more.. 80m

for a player wt yr left 40-50m seem fair price
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looking at euro and copa we clearly lack of top nation players

within top 16 world ranking only got
1.de gea (losing no1 spot)
2.maguire
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5.fred
6.fernandes
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we need more!!
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Sancho transfer ongoing, Dortmund have received a bid and negotiations are on.

Personally, I don't really care anymore about Sancho. He was supposed to be last season's marque signing so wheeling him out this season does nothing for me. I'd expect this transfer to take at least a few weeks more into July, when the new kit launches so he can hold it up.

Nothing on the CDM front as of now.
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Isn't that rather typical of MU transfer policy?

50M for a World Cup winner and multi time CL winning CB in his prime is too much.
But 50M for an unproven English RB from Crystal Palace and 80M for an English CB for Leicester is fine.
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I feel expensive leh. 1 year left 50m. Dunno why we still kena held ransom after cooling off paying big buck for 1-2 seasons.

And rm get alaba for free. Dunno our negotiator do what
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jun 20 2021, 03:28 AM)
Disappointed with bruno in this euro. Didn't do anything while ronaldo, jota, silva doing their best. 0/10 .
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Not surprised. He usually missing in important game haha.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 20 2021, 11:44 AM)
I feel expensive leh. 1 year left 50m. Dunno why we still kena held ransom after cooling off paying big buck for 1-2 seasons.

And rm get alaba for free. Dunno our negotiator do what
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Even looking at Man City, with the reputation of spending big, they have almost never spent more than 50-60M on one player.

Biggest transfers :
2015 - De Bruyne for 54M.
2018 (Jan) - Laporte for 57M.
2018 - Mahrez for 60M.
2020 - Rodri for 62M.

They never went 80M for a Pogba or Maguire like United.
This is all part of the football instrastructure at the club, and poses the question if our negoatiators are at the very least competent for the job of world football negotiations.
Still, the jury is out for Murtough and Judge to get this seasons targets over the line.

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QUOTE(onepack @ Jun 20 2021, 02:28 AM)
some report actually said united make 50m offer but RM asking for more.. 80m

for a player wt yr left 40-50m seem fair price
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jun 20 2021, 03:28 AM)
Disappointed with bruno in this euro. Didn't do anything while ronaldo, jota, silva doing their best. 0/10 .
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He is too exhausted.
QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 20 2021, 11:44 AM)
I feel expensive leh. 1 year left 50m. Dunno why we still kena held ransom after cooling off paying big buck for 1-2 seasons.

And rm get alaba for free. Dunno our negotiator do what
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50m for a world class defender who can solidify our defense definitely worth it to me. He is 27 only got 5 to 7 years more to go. Bayern didn't renew alaba's contract because of his wages demand
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QUOTE(Mu4ever80 @ Jun 20 2021, 12:47 PM)
He is too exhausted.

nope. bruno is the type that show tantrum when things not going as planned especially when his team doesn't control the game. his quality dropped when that happened. don't tell me you actually thought he is exhausted.
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jun 20 2021, 01:23 PM)
nope. bruno is the type that show tantrum when things not going as planned especially when his team doesn't control the game. his quality dropped when that happened. don't tell me you actually thought he is exhausted.
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That is what I read at ESPN haha.Wah last season he started 58 games!

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Bruno is fatigued. You cannot play the amount of games he has in the past 2 seasons and still be peak. Look at Rashford, even going near Bruno's appearance numbers means he's picked up numerous injuries and playing with injections.

Two seasons ago, the season got dragged because of Covid and the players got exactly 1 month off before starting the new season. Under a compressed schedule, Bruno still picked up almost 60 games. Now he is off to the Euros. He has not gotten any proper recovery time since joining us, and that will be a factor in games.

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Sancho
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jun 24 2021, 08:00 AM)
Sancho
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Ramos

Are we done? Or need more? tongue.gif
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An overpriced English an and 2 past peak player. About right. Just missing one more young and potential player that can't slot into first team like diallo
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jun 24 2021, 08:00 AM)
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Are we done? Or need more? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 24 2021, 09:21 AM)
An overpriced English an and 2 past peak player. About right. Just missing one more young and potential player that can't slot into first team like diallo
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lingardinho has returned!

yeah really overpriced english. afraid he might flop due to heavy price tag burden.
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Sancho isn't worth anywhere near 80M as a RW.
But Manchester United seem so fixated on getting him, like we are not really needing a RW as much as we need a Jadon Sancho. I suspect this decision may be driven by merchandise sales considerations.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 24 2021, 10:05 AM)
Sancho isn't worth anywhere near 80M as a RW.
But Manchester United seem so fixated on getting him, like we are not really needing a RW as much as we need a Jadon Sancho. I suspect this decision may be driven by merchandise sales considerations.
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english english english...

side discussion england vs germany.. no easy path for england this round vs the hyped wc last round.. wonder still got coming home hype or not? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jun 24 2021, 11:25 AM)
english english english...

side discussion england vs germany.. no easy path for england this round vs the hyped wc last round.. wonder still got coming home hype or not?  tongue.gif
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Germany also not good enough this euro walaupun win 4-2 vs Portugal but England I think lagi teruk laugh.gif
fair enough for me.
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Varane mana wei? LOL
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QUOTE(john_white @ Jun 24 2021, 11:41 AM)
Germany also not good enough this euro walaupun win 4-2 vs Portugal but England I think lagi teruk  laugh.gif
fair enough for me.
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i watched ger vs portugal game.. germany like not much chemistry different from previous big tourney.. but still can bantai portugal.. only one ruben dias there covering.. not sure what pepe was doing during the game
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 24 2021, 09:55 AM)
lingardinho has returned!

yeah really overpriced english. afraid he might flop due to heavy price tag burden.
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Lingard godlike in West ham, but at united, sucked balls. If our system doesn't suit him, just let him go. Don't waste everyone's time. His youth is waning.


QUOTE(even_steven @ Jun 24 2021, 02:20 PM)
Varane mana wei? LOL
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Same tactic like Ramos, name drop united to get contract elsewhere. With Ramos it has happened many times before. If no one calls his bluff, maybe will join us. I'd personally prefer Pau.


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No doubt Sancho is a super talent but we don't really need him. If he plays 70-80% games at RW, greenwood, diallo, pellistri won't get much games. Southgate not starting him for england and prefers Saka/Foden at RW.But Sancho might be our first signing haha
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Jun 24 2021, 02:20 PM)
Varane mana wei? LOL
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Ramos for Varane. Free. Good deal. Enough for 1-2 seasons left in him. Verane at least need 50-70m which I think Ramos is better option.

Ronaldo probably has 2-3 good years ahead. He does not show any sign of slowing down as of now. Can sell Martial for Ronaldo salary.

Sancho, good for us to settle our right flank.
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I still feel a CDM is essential to utilise that capability in our squad. Else, a wasteful.
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jun 24 2021, 09:00 PM)
Ramos for Varane. Free. Good deal. Enough for 1-2 seasons left in him. Verane at least need 50-70m which I think Ramos is better option.

Ronaldo probably has 2-3 good years ahead. He does not show any sign of slowing down as of now. Can sell Martial for Ronaldo salary.

Sancho, good for us to settle our right flank.
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I disagree on Ramos. I do not want to see Ramos anywhere near our club, we are not a retirement home.
Having one slow CB is bad enough, buying an old CB on big wages who lacks speed will be introducing new problems. We would be better off giving Tuanzebe a chance than signing Ramos in my opinion.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 24 2021, 09:21 AM)
An overpriced English an and 2 past peak player. About right. Just missing one more young and potential player that can't slot into first team like diallo
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2 past peak player but still better than what we are having currently
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Rumour has it that the Sancho deal is done in principal for 75M, with an additional 5M in add ons.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 25 2021, 01:48 AM)
I disagree on Ramos. I do not want to see Ramos anywhere near our club, we are not a retirement home.
Having one slow CB is bad enough, buying an old CB on big wages who lacks speed will be introducing new problems. We would be better off giving Tuanzebe a chance than signing Ramos in my opinion.
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Doubt Glazers and Kayu are interested in signing player who is vocal, especially, how poor the club is being managed at this moment in time. But then again, Kayu pulled off the Cavani deal, he might pull out another bunny trick with Ramos.

As for Sancho, from close to imminent and now agree in principle, it tells a lot how incompetent they are in handling the negotiation, and I can never understand what's the obsession with Ballor D'or clause.

And now there are few outlets selling the story of MU is opened to sell Martial and Van De Beek. Seriously ?...renewing/keeping players like Lingard, Mata, Matic over these 2. All this again boil down to balancing the book so that the Glazers can enjoy the dividend.

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QUOTE(AuRevoir @ Jun 26 2021, 02:58 AM)
Doubt Glazers and Kayu are interested in signing player who is vocal, especially, how poor the club is being managed at this moment in time. But then again, Kayu pulled off the Cavani deal, he might pull out another bunny trick with Ramos.

As for Sancho, from close to imminent and now agree in principle, it tells a lot how incompetent they are in handling the negotiation, and I can never understand what's the obsession with  Ballor D'or clause.

And now there are few outlets selling the story of MU is opened to sell Martial and Van De Beek. Seriously ?...renewing/keeping players like Lingard, Mata, Matic over these 2. All this again boil down to balancing the book so that the Glazers can enjoy the dividend.
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I think we need to take a step back as I constantly seeing criticism / statement that our transfer / negotiation team are incompetent, useless & etc.

Not every person managing transfer negotiation will be doing the same exact practice.
Not to mention other factors will make it different such as:
- club(seller) that we are dealing with, are they desperate to sell
- the person from the selling club, is it someone easy to deal with (ie: someone like Levy)
- agent (which now days do have a very big say in how the transfer will be done)
- and other misc. thing behind the scene which none of us can see

Recently I saw some comments "Oh our negotiation is crap bla bla bla, now Neves is going to Arsenal".
As far as I know, nothing on that movement.

Bottom line is criticism is always part of the game but at the same time, certain fairness need to be there when doing so.
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QUOTE(AuRevoir @ Jun 26 2021, 02:58 AM)
Doubt Glazers and Kayu are interested in signing player who is vocal, especially, how poor the club is being managed at this moment in time. But then again, Kayu pulled off the Cavani deal, he might pull out another bunny trick with Ramos.

As for Sancho, from close to imminent and now agree in principle, it tells a lot how incompetent they are in handling the negotiation, and I can never understand what's the obsession with  Ballor D'or clause.

And now there are few outlets selling the story of MU is opened to sell Martial and Van De Beek. Seriously ?...renewing/keeping players like Lingard, Mata, Matic over these 2. All this again boil down to balancing the book so that the Glazers can enjoy the dividend.
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Tactically, Ramos does not bring anything new to United and would only serve to exacerbate our defensive problems. Our only CB consistently quick enough to cover for Maguire is Bailly, but is frequently injured. Putting a 35 year old CB as a partner with Maguire will expose us in the pace of the PL worse than Maguire-Lindelof ever did. Cavani is a different matter because he is an attacker, who dictates the angle of attack that the defender needs to react to. In most cases, the attacker is the active positioner and the defender is the reactive. Reminds me of Laurent Blanc when he signed for us. Really good player but too late in his career, he never came to grips with the pace of the League. Plus, how many have forgotten about how Ramos played United to get a new contract at RM five years ago? As a person and as a player, I would have to say no to Ramos.

Sancho is the protracted transfer saga. This was supposed to be last season's signing. Do not get conned by the club saying this is the marque signing for this season. I have no excitement around this purchase and am waiting on the news of a CB and a CDM as the priority. Our transfer negotiators have the worst performance among the big clubs in Europe for the past 7 years so that at least has been consistent. As for the clauses, Dortmund will insert all sorts of add-ons to approach the 80M minimum fee that United will not pay. International/League appearances, goals, Cup wins and individual awards are all the dimensions that get tacked on. I know we need a RW but Sancho at 80M is hopelessly overpriced.

The possible sale of Martial and VDB is worry for the fans because it points to two things; balancing the books in a time when the Glazers committed investment after fan backlash for the ESL, and lack of interest in players we want to offload. Fans might think the Glazers will pull a big transfer window to appease the fans but the dividend strategy is still there. We still need to generate transfer funds from club assets to fund our transfer strategy. This means the Glazers will not commit to a no dividend for 5 years policy, rather preferring to sell useful players for new toys to show the fans hoping they will be happy. Secondly, it also shows that there is no interest for players that we want to sell. Mata. Matic. De Gea. Who knows, maybe even Lingard is seeing lean interest. I would be disgusted if United sold either Martial or VDB. Our club is being run as a business by bankers rather than football people and it still shows. Despite the protests.

Back on transfers on the main positions of CB and CDM. CDM has been awfully quiet, I don't know if the club are actively looking for this position. Maybe Murtough and Ole thinks McFred are the best pivot on the League. As for CB, thee strongest two possibilities are Pau Torres and Varane. Varane is the obvious choice here but letting Matt Judge negotiate with RM? That is like sending a deer to a lion. Maybe we should be thankful it isn't Daniel Levy. Problem with Varane is that Chelsea and PSG are also interested. Even if Varane has a preference for United, the efficiency of Chelsea and PSG in transfers makes them strong contenders. And the fact United never wins any transfer wars.

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75m for Sancho. Make sure we have at least 100m for cb and dm
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Some rumours spreading that we are selling Martial to fill in the hole, after Sancho i believe our target will be CDM and CB. RB might be put on hold after Dalot ended his loan spell.
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Since there is no news on our other transfers going on, here are some snippets from other PL clubs which you all may find interesting.

For those living in fear that we may settle for Ben White or Tyrone Mings to fill our CB gap, Arsenal has come to the rescue. Arsenal has a 42M bid rejected by Brighton for Ben White. Brighton has informed Arsenal that the will need to meet the 50M valuation plus add-ons.

And according to Marca, Liverpool have made an enquiry on the availability of Kylian Mbappe. Mbappe has one year left on his contract and can leave as a free agent in 2022.

Manchester City going for Grealish is already headline news.
So news is now out from The Athletic on the Van De Beek purchase last season. Jack Grealish was Ole's prime target last season as an attacking outlet but United were unwilling to pay the 70M demanded by Aston Villa.
Van De Beek was bought as an alternative attacking midfielder and based on Ole's handling of him last season, it is apparent he wasn't Ole's choice.

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All of the new signings will be nothing when we have this kind of poor friendly arrangement, I mean, QPR, Derby, Branford, seriously? And ended up with Everton

Players like Bruno, Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, Fred, Lindelof, James, Sancho (if he did signed), Cavani will all have extra weeks off and only come back in time for last friendly match.

Look at Arsenal, their friendly arrangement consist of Chelsea (UCL champion), Inter (Serie A champion), Spurs, Rangers (Scottish League champion) and 2 more teams, total 4/6 are same level opponents. We? Playing 2 clubs one division below and one EPL promotion team and one EPL 12th team. The preparation itself already can tell the story that we will be struggling for first few matches like last season

Now let’s talk about transfer story:
Ramos? Well, he is good header, we don’t have many scoring defenders for the past few year but he is at his twilight of his career, wage bill will be very huge plus not many Spanish player want to live at Manchester.

Varane, he do need a very strong defender beside him only can perform, if we buy him, I prefer to use Lindelof.

Sancho, many ask what will be for Amad and Pallestri if we get Sancho? If Sancho joining then RW will be between him and Amad while Greenwood can be playing deputy to Cavani or sometimes rotate with Sancho. Pallestri can continue to loan out

Back to Pogba contract extension, don’t agree to give him 400k per week, that will make him above DDG, and we don’t want to see another Sanchez scenario happened, 28 and for sure his agent will demand 4 to 5 years as this will prolly his last big fat contract. Don’t think MU will give him this contract, Riola will use the same old tactic to make himself free again like Donnarumma case


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All of the new signings will be nothing when we have this kind of poor friendly arrangement, I mean, QPR, Derby, Branford, seriously? And ended up with Everton

Players like Bruno, Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, Fred, Lindelof, James, Sancho (if he did signed), Cavani will all have extra weeks off and only come back in time for last friendly match.

Look at Arsenal, their friendly arrangement consist of Chelsea (UCL champion), Inter (Serie A champion), Spurs, Rangers (Scottish League champion) and 2 more teams, total 4/6 are same level opponents. We? Playing 2 clubs one division below and one EPL promotion team and one EPL 12th team. The preparation itself already can tell the story that we will be struggling for first few matches like last season

Now let’s talk about transfer story:
Ramos? Well, he is good header, we don’t have many scoring defenders for the past few year but he is at his twilight of his career, wage bill will be very huge plus not many Spanish player want to live at Manchester.

Varane, he do need a very strong defender beside him only can perform, if we buy him, I prefer to use Lindelof.

Sancho, many ask what will be for Amad and Pallestri if we get Sancho? If Sancho joining then RW will be between him and Amad while Greenwood can be playing deputy to Cavani or sometimes rotate with Sancho. Pallestri can continue to loan out

Back to Pogba contract extension, don’t agree to give him 400k per week, that will make him above DDG, and we don’t want to see another Sanchez scenario happened, 28 and for sure his agent will demand 4 to 5 years as this will prolly his last big fat contract. Don’t think MU will give him this contract, Riola will use the same old tactic to make himself free again like Donnarumma case
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Welcome back, its been awhile tongue.gif

But yes I’d agree on the Pogba point, the team will be better without him. Also, he should go where he seeks pleasure playing, not bogged down at Old Trafford waiting for another payday.
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Varane, he do need a very strong defender beside him only can perform, if we buy him, I prefer to use Lindelof.
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Raphael Varane wants to join Manchester United due to his belief that now is the time for a new experience in his career.

The France centre-back’s decision comes as Real Madrid enter a period of transition.

The centre-half, 28, is United’s top defensive target, with Villareal and Spain star Pau Torres seen as an alternative.

One of the many stumbling blocks to sign Varane would be his wages, as he is pushing to earn as much as £400,000 a week.

United are wary of overpaying for contracts after issues with previous purchases such as Alexis Sanchez.


If this is any truth in this about his $400K salary, RM can keep him there. Thanks but no thanks.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jun 26 2021, 08:24 PM)
Welcome back, its been awhile tongue.gif

But yes I’d agree on the Pogba point, the team will be better without him. Also, he should go where he seeks pleasure playing, not bogged down at Old Trafford waiting for another payday.
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jun 26 2021, 08:55 PM)
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...r-b1872726.html
If this is any truth in this about his $400K salary, RM can keep him there. Thanks but no thanks.
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When everyone asking for 400k salary, it will (has already) become a benchmark for other players who wish to join MU will ask for the same salary, this is all thanks to Sanchez. Existing players like Rashford, Bruno, Maguire, or even Greenwood will try to demand a new contract improvement around that range.

A 350k keeper already hard to offload, if we have Pogba or Varane or even Ramos in the house, it will adding up the bills and we won’t have enough funds to buy players in the future.

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Ole so bend on sancho. For us i think all our feeling are meh haha.

If we perform much better next season then ole not that clueless.

Jogba playing for France really godlike. But maybe kante is there
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You don't say... this is Kayu last swansong before he leaves the club in December and as a matter of pride (not losing Pogba twice for free)..Kayu might go ahead with the 400k/w.

Again, it demonstrates how incompetent the board is, precedent with Sanchez, offering huge wages to back-up/fringe player - Phil Jones, unnecessary contract extension for Mata, Lingard...etc. All this with hope of recouping some of the transfer fee, but ended with keeping them in the club bcos no clubs can afford their salaries; Or loaning the player to other clubs by contributing X% of the weekly pay to sweeten the deal.

These people are well-known in the business/financial industry, yet they fail to see the clear line of sight the losses they are incurring to the club doh.gif
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so,..

QUOTE(orga_laut @ May 28 2021, 11:48 PM)
with glazers, matt judge, murtuogh?
this is what going to happen:
- media transfer hyped like idiot (sancho, ronaldo, haaland, rice, neves)
- sign nobody until the last day transfer window, panic buy CB tyron mings
- jesse stays to cover winger
- dalot stays to cover wanbissaka
- McFred midfild remain as midfild pivot

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- media transfer hype: sancho, varane
- jesse offered new contract

lets see how many is true
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 26 2021, 11:07 PM)
Ole so bend on sancho. For us i think all our feeling are meh haha.

If we perform much better next season then ole not that clueless.

Jogba playing for France really godlike. But maybe kante is there
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The Pogba dichotomy I think was covered quite nicely during the season.
Why is he so effective playing for France, but cannot get a midfield role at United? Simple. A partner of a similar standard playing with him.

A world class midfield creator needs a world class CDM to provide the platform to perform. It is difficult to create chances from deep when you have two or more players constantly on you. And it is diffcult to create when your midfield partner cannot get the ball to you quick enough.

Kante is a world class CDM which provides Pogba the platform, and we can all see it in his performances. At United, he does not have that partner. Fred lacks the passing required to feed Pogba and McTominay is mediocre as a CDM. So without a world class CDM to provide the creative platform, we resorted to playing 2 CDMs to do the job instead of one which requires that the deep regista type player be sacrificed.

Sure, a lot of us are tired of Raiola and his antics. From a club perspective, letting Pogba go would mean adding another world class midfielder to the transfer target. With the CB, CDM, RW, FW and RB positions currently on the list; where are we going to get the funds to purchase that player and pay his wages? Glazers aren't going to put their own money into the club anytime soon. Looking at the financials of giving him a 400k contract as rumoured, or buying another top midfielder plus wages, it looks like the new contract is what our Accounting and Finance department will recommend.

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Mctominay played on the right side of 3- man CB for Scotland and balik kampung ady haha. Djames' Wales lost badly to Denmark.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 27 2021, 11:54 AM)
The Pogba dichotomy I think was covered quite nicely during the season.
Why is he so effective playing for France, but cannot get a midfield role at United? Simple. A partner of a similar standard playing with him.

A world class midfield creator needs a world class CDM to provide the platform to perform. It is difficult to create chances from deep when you have two or more players constantly on you. And it is diffcult to create when your midfield partner cannot get the ball to you quick enough.

Kante is a world class CDM which provides Pogba the platform, and we can all see it in his performances. At United, he does not have that partner. Fred lacks the passing required to feed Pogba and McTominay is mediocre as a CDM. So without a world class CDM to provide the creative platform, we resorted to playing 2 CDMs to do the job instead of one which requires that the deep regista type player be sacrificed.

Sure, a lot of us are tired to Raiola and his antics. From a club perspective, letting Pogba go would mean adding another world class midfielder to the transfer target. With the CB, CDM, RW, FW and RB positions currently on the list; where are we going to get the funds to purchase that player and pay his wages? Glazers aren't going to put their own money into the club anytime soon. Looking at the financials of giving him a 400k contract as rumoured, or buying another top midfielder plus wages, it looks like the new contract is what our Accounting and Finance department will recommend.
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With Rashford conduct his surgery after Euro, most likely Pogba going to occupy LW for the beginning of season, letting him go might cost us.
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With Rashford conduct his surgery after Euro, most likely Pogba going to occupy LW for the beginning of season, letting him go might cost us.
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With players who off for holiday after Euro, they only back for final last warm up match against Everton not to mention the quality of the warm up matches we have, for sure we will be struggling again for the beginning of season like last season
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 27 2021, 11:54 AM)
The Pogba dichotomy I think was covered quite nicely during the season.
Why is he so effective playing for France, but cannot get a midfield role at United? Simple. A partner of a similar standard playing with him.

A world class midfield creator needs a world class CDM to provide the platform to perform. It is difficult to create chances from deep when you have two or more players constantly on you. And it is diffcult to create when your midfield partner cannot get the ball to you quick enough.

Kante is a world class CDM which provides Pogba the platform, and we can all see it in his performances. At United, he does not have that partner. Fred lacks the passing required to feed Pogba and McTominay is mediocre as a CDM. So without a world class CDM to provide the creative platform, we resorted to playing 2 CDMs to do the job instead of one which requires that the deep regista type player be sacrificed.

Sure, a lot of us are tired of Raiola and his antics. From a club perspective, letting Pogba go would mean adding another world class midfielder to the transfer target. With the CB, CDM, RW, FW and RB positions currently on the list; where are we going to get the funds to purchase that player and pay his wages? Glazers aren't going to put their own money into the club anytime soon. Looking at the financials of giving him a 400k contract as rumoured, or buying another top midfielder plus wages, it looks like the new contract is what our Accounting and Finance department will recommend.
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Then how does B fernandes performs so well for us?

Dont think pogba did much defensive job with fred and mctom around, if fact prefer him not to def, always commit silly fouls

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Ramos wage demand will be damn high as he is paid 300k per week at real and he is just a short term solution. He will prefer man city/ PSG or even US clubs over us.
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Mctominay played on the right side of 3- man CB for Scotland and balik kampung ady haha. Djames' Wales lost badly to Denmark.
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Bruno also balik kampung haha. England next?

Going support Denmark this euro. Underdog and play with energy.

Lukaku so good with his first touch d. Turning into drogba. Fatty hazard gone into oblivion

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Bruno also balik kampung haha. England next?

Going support Denmark this euro. Underdog and play with energy.

Lukaku so good with his first touch d. Turning into drogba. Fatty hazard gone into oblivion
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Bruno doest seem to play much the manager knows he is exhausted. Don't play play with Lukaku, he is the key player that led inter to win serie a haha. Go go England !Go go Maguire shaw haha

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Squad Opinion

Transfer Outs
Not much news happening on this front. The players who were touted to be moved on this summer DDG/Henderson, Lingard, Perreira, Dalot.
News coming out of Carrington is that Ole wants to evaluate players like Lingard & Dalot in training. You can read this two ways. Either Ole has suddenly came up with ideas to integrate players he did not want last season into the squad, or there is a lack of demand to buy the players. It may well be the latter. If this is the case, our transfer budget may take a hit as expected funds are not materializing.

Players like Mata, Matic and Jones are expected to see another season with us due to the total lack of interest from other parties to do a deal.


Squad Composition for 21/22

GK
News is that DDG is staying for now. In other words, nobody is interested to buy and pay those wages.
Tom Heaton is being signed as backup already, which means one of either DDG or Henderson must be moved. Otherwise, it will be another season of shared GK duties and that means more pressure which does not help anyone. One small mistake, and people will be quick to point to the other option available. Compare this with the stability of Allison at Liverpool, who has the confidence of being number 1 despite some mistakes.

If this continues, we may end up keeping DDG and selling Henderson.


Defence
Maguire is staying, and Lindelof and Bailly looks to be playing backup next season. Tuanzebe is looking for a loan move away, which is sad to see. He was never really given a chance.
The news on a new CB buy seems to revolve around 2 players, Varane and Pau Torres.

The worry for Torres is that he may not have the profile and a similar player to Lindelof. I can see Ole benching Torres like VDB and playing Maguire-Lindelof again next season.
As for Varane, he has the profile to go right into the team. But my concern here is if he is even serious about joining. Remember the last Real Madrid defender to be linked with us? Ramos made all the right noises about joining United 5 years ago, only to squeeze another lucrative contract out of Real.

Either way, if we get Torres or Varane, I'd be happy.

We are apparently also looking for cover at RB for AWB. Ole didn't think Dalot was up for the job last season, and barely gave Williams a start. Trippier has been sounded out but his price of 30-40M for a 30 year old looks steep for defensive cover. Ancelotti apparently in interested bringing Dalot to Real Madrid, our transfer team may be able to position this together with a Varane move. Stay tuned.

Left backs, we are well covered.


Midfield
Fred, McTominay, Bruno Fernandes and Matic will be with us.
Not sure if Ole will promote Garner to the senior squad.

With the transfers out not happening, the club is evaluating selling VDB which is painful to see.
Leaks suggest that we may only buy a midfielder if Pogba moves, which means the critical CDM position may not happen this season. Two news outlets have put out articles about our interest in Camavinga, but I am not taking it seriously at this stage.

Pogba will be hard to replace if he moves, but circumstances point towards a new contract as other clubs are unlikely to provide him the wages he United can.


Attack

With Sancho almost done, we will have Rashford, Martial, James, Greenwood and Cavani in the senior squad next season.
Question marks if we will sell Lingard or Perreira. The club should not keep them, there is no place in the squad.
Amad Diallo and Pellestri could make the senior squad next season.
Academy graduates Shoretire and Hannibal are the hot youngsters.

Martial could be sold to raise fund and that will leave us light upfront. I am for retaining Martial as Cavani is in his final season.
James is not good enough but I do not see interest for him.

I do not think we will buy a striker this season, perhaps next season depending on how things turn out.





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Walao @statikinetik u really got passion "analysing" mu stuff. One word for u..RESPECT! Haha
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One of the joys of my life, supporting the club since Ron Atkinson's time as manager.
We didn't win much back then but the football was pretty good.


We talked about Pogba a few days ago and today there is an article on Goal.com on Pogba's effect on France and MU. Here is what Pogba himself said in the interview, full article in the link below.
Ties up what we discussed nicely.

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The man himself was asked that question just last week, and pointed towards the way Didier Deschamps sets France up as being beneficial.

“We were already playing with three midfielders [at Juventus], in 5-3-2," he told L’Equipe . “I had the freedom, I had to be in the box, to attack. It was an obligation. In Manchester, I have the freedom to enter the box, but the priority is to play and to defend.

"We (France) play in 4-2-3-1, also a diamond. I am a little more in the transmission, in the construction. But I have more freedom than in Manchester to enter the box, to make runs forwards.

“At the same time, when you have [Antoine] Griezmann and Kylian [Mbappe], you don’t want to enter their spaces, you don’t need to.”
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https://www.goal.com/en-my/news/why-is-pogb...sp184s6b5zok1nb
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 28 2021, 01:43 PM)
Squad Opinion

Transfer Outs
Not much news happening on this front. The players who were touted to be moved on this summer DDG/Henderson, Lingard, Perreira, Dalot.
News coming out of Carrington is that Ole wants to evaluate players like Lingard & Dalot in training. You can read this two ways. Either Ole has suddenly came up with ideas to integrate players he did not want last season into the squad, or there is a lack of demand to buy the players. It may well be the latter. If this is the case, our transfer budget may take a hit as expected funds are not materializing.

Players like Mata, Matic and Jones are expected to see another season with us due to the total lack of interest from other parties to do a deal.
Squad Composition for 21/22

GK
News is that DDG is staying for now. In other words, nobody is interested to buy and pay those wages.
Tom Heaton is being signed as backup already, which means one of either DDG or Henderson must be moved. Otherwise, it will be another season of shared GK duties and that means more pressure which does not help anyone. One small mistake, and people will be quick to point to the other option available. Compare this with the stability of Allison at Liverpool, who has the confidence of being number 1 despite some mistakes.

If this continues, we may end up keeping DDG and selling Henderson.
Defence
Maguire is staying, and Lindelof and Bailly looks to be playing backup next season. Tuanzebe is looking for a loan move away, which is sad to see. He was never really given a chance.
The news on a new CB buy seems to revolve around 2 players, Varane and Pau Torres.

The worry for Torres is that he may not have the profile and a similar player to Lindelof. I can see Ole benching Torres like VDB and playing Maguire-Lindelof again next season.
As for Varane, he has the profile to go right into the team. But my concern here is if he is even serious about joining. Remember the last Real Madrid defender to be linked with us? Ramos made all the right noises about joining United 5 years ago, only to squeeze another lucrative contract out of Real.

Either way, if we get Torres or Varane, I'd be happy.

We are apparently also looking for cover at RB for AWB. Ole didn't think Dalot was up for the job last season, and barely gave Williams a start. Trippier has been sounded out but his price of 30-40M for a 30 year old looks steep for defensive cover. Ancelotti apparently in interested bringing Dalot to Real Madrid, our transfer team may be able to position this together with a Varane move. Stay tuned.

Left backs, we are well covered.
Midfield
Fred, McTominay, Bruno Fernandes and Matic will be with us.
Not sure if Ole will promote Garner to the senior squad.

With the transfers out not happening, the club is evaluating selling VDB which is painful to see.
Leaks suggest that we may only buy a midfielder if Pogba moves, which means the critical CDM position may not happen this season. Two news outlets have put out articles about our interest in Camavinga, but I am not taking it seriously at this stage.

Pogba will be hard to replace if he moves, but circumstances point towards a new contract as other clubs are unlikely to provide him the wages he United can.
Attack

With Sancho almost done, we will have Rashford, Martial, James, Greenwood and Cavani in the senior squad next season.
Question marks if we will sell Lingard or Perreira. The club should not keep them, there is no place in the squad.
Amad Diallo and Pellestri could make the senior squad next season.
Academy graduates Shoretire and Hannibal are the hot youngsters.

Martial could be sold to raise fund and that will leave us light upfront. I am for retaining Martial as Cavani is in his final season.
James is not good enough but I do not see interest for him.

I do not think we will buy a striker this season, perhaps next season depending on how things turn out.
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Grant, Joel and Romero expected to leave. Nathan most likely going out on loan. Heaton will come in 3rd choice.

Cb position expected one incoming to make it 4 starters. RB not a priority but not surprised 1 incoming.

Mids we are flooded, incoming only when players released.

Expected 1 wide player.

If non above is a marquee, expected 1 major name signing.


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And that was pogba's last dance in euro haha
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How many man utd players left in the euro? sweat.gif

Good thing they can rest early and prepare for next season.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jun 29 2021, 11:15 AM)
How many man utd players left in the euro? sweat.gif

Good thing they can rest early and prepare for next season.
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England rashford, shaw, maguire, sancho 😂
Spain de gea
Sweden lindelof

Others sudah da bao

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England rashford, shaw, maguire, sancho 😂
Spain de gea
Sweden lindelof

Others sudah da bao
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england dunno kena dabao or not tonight.

spain, i think de gea only played 1 game. sweat.gif

sweden still in it? 😂
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How many man utd players left in the euro? sweat.gif

Good thing they can rest early and prepare for next season.
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de gea injured

lindelof
maguire just back from injury but playing
shaw

fred in copa

cavani in copa
rashford


both de gea and henderson injured for now.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jun 29 2021, 11:27 AM)
england dunno kena dabao or not tonight.

spain, i think de gea only played 1 game. sweat.gif

sweden still in it? 😂
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Sweden ada. Lawan Ukraine. Don’t play play ok? 😂

England of course da bao. Not convincing at all 😅

Semi: german-italy (belgium many injured)
Czech-spain

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Amacam? Ok ka? 😂
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 29 2021, 11:29 AM)
de gea injured

lindelof
maguire just back from injury but playing
shaw

fred in copa

cavani in copa
rashford
both de gea and henderson injured for now.
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ddg not playing because injured ka? saw him on the bench. the first goal spain concede doh.gif
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see see lindeloft win euro lol. based on our players all tapao. i guess england next

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see see lindeloft win euro lol. based on our players all tapao. i guess england next
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Saw this on Twitter 😂


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QUOTE(damnself @ Jun 29 2021, 11:58 AM)
Sweden ada. Lawan Ukraine. Don’t play play ok? 😂

England of course da bao. Not convincing at all 😅

Semi: german-italy (belgium many injured)
Czech-spain

Final: italy-spain

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 28 2021, 01:43 PM)
Squad Opinion

Transfer Outs
Not much news happening on this front. The players who were touted to be moved on this summer DDG/Henderson, Lingard, Perreira, Dalot.
News coming out of Carrington is that Ole wants to evaluate players like Lingard & Dalot in training. You can read this two ways. Either Ole has suddenly came up with ideas to integrate players he did not want last season into the squad, or there is a lack of demand to buy the players. It may well be the latter. If this is the case, our transfer budget may take a hit as expected funds are not materializing.

Players like Mata, Matic and Jones are expected to see another season with us due to the total lack of interest from other parties to do a deal.
Squad Composition for 21/22

GK
News is that DDG is staying for now. In other words, nobody is interested to buy and pay those wages.
Tom Heaton is being signed as backup already, which means one of either DDG or Henderson must be moved. Otherwise, it will be another season of shared GK duties and that means more pressure which does not help anyone. One small mistake, and people will be quick to point to the other option available. Compare this with the stability of Allison at Liverpool, who has the confidence of being number 1 despite some mistakes.

If this continues, we may end up keeping DDG and selling Henderson.
Defence
Maguire is staying, and Lindelof and Bailly looks to be playing backup next season. Tuanzebe is looking for a loan move away, which is sad to see. He was never really given a chance.
The news on a new CB buy seems to revolve around 2 players, Varane and Pau Torres.

The worry for Torres is that he may not have the profile and a similar player to Lindelof. I can see Ole benching Torres like VDB and playing Maguire-Lindelof again next season.
As for Varane, he has the profile to go right into the team. But my concern here is if he is even serious about joining. Remember the last Real Madrid defender to be linked with us? Ramos made all the right noises about joining United 5 years ago, only to squeeze another lucrative contract out of Real.

Either way, if we get Torres or Varane, I'd be happy.

We are apparently also looking for cover at RB for AWB. Ole didn't think Dalot was up for the job last season, and barely gave Williams a start. Trippier has been sounded out but his price of 30-40M for a 30 year old looks steep for defensive cover. Ancelotti apparently in interested bringing Dalot to Real Madrid, our transfer team may be able to position this together with a Varane move. Stay tuned.

Left backs, we are well covered.
Midfield
Fred, McTominay, Bruno Fernandes and Matic will be with us.
Not sure if Ole will promote Garner to the senior squad.

With the transfers out not happening, the club is evaluating selling VDB which is painful to see.
Leaks suggest that we may only buy a midfielder if Pogba moves, which means the critical CDM position may not happen this season. Two news outlets have put out articles about our interest in Camavinga, but I am not taking it seriously at this stage.

Pogba will be hard to replace if he moves, but circumstances point towards a new contract as other clubs are unlikely to provide him the wages he United can.
Attack

With Sancho almost done, we will have Rashford, Martial, James, Greenwood and Cavani in the senior squad next season.
Question marks if we will sell Lingard or Perreira. The club should not keep them, there is no place in the squad.
Amad Diallo and Pellestri could make the senior squad next season.
Academy graduates Shoretire and Hannibal are the hot youngsters.

Martial could be sold to raise fund and that will leave us light upfront. I am for retaining Martial as Cavani is in his final season.
James is not good enough but I do not see interest for him.

I do not think we will buy a striker this season, perhaps next season depending on how things turn out.
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Did Camavinga tick your requirement for a CDM? Seem like after Sancho they going after him and having serious discussion, main contender would be PSG, i doubt Rennes would sell him to PSG unless they offer a very high price.

About the CB, i think we have to sign one, by middle of season there will be Africa Cup where Bailly will be out for a month, if Tuanzebe loan out, we will be short of CB.
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Did Camavinga tick your requirement for a CDM? Seem like after Sancho they going after him and having serious discussion, main contender would be PSG, i doubt Rennes would sell him to PSG unless they offer a very high price.

About the CB, i think we have to sign one, by middle of season there will be Africa Cup where Bailly will be out for a month, if Tuanzebe loan out, we will be short of CB.
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That is an interesting question, and one I needed to think on a bit before answering for the sake of accuracy.
In order to capcure my thoughts, I've split the ask into a few parts.

Does Camavinga tick my requirements for a CDM?
Currently, no. Given a year or two to develop, perhaps yes. Camavinga is a young talent. 18 years old.
Is Ole going to break up McFred and slot an 18 year old player from the French League into the starting lineup? My guess would be no. Ole has always been conservative with his selections. And Ole has not displayed any aptitude in developing youngsters. So buying Camavinga does not make our starting lineup any stronger, but it certainly makes our future brighter. It is different from buying a Declan Rice, who we can all see slots directly into the first team. If we buy Camavinga, the ball is with Ole to see if he will play him consistently for his development.

Do I want Camavinga?
Absolutely. I think he is a great prospect to anchor the future of our club if he realises his potential. If we got Sancho, Varane/Torres and Camavinga in this transfer window I would have to give the transfer team a passing grade.

Is Camavinga going to be our CDM buy for the season?
I think this one feels different. United's transfer priority is RW, CB and apparently RB. There are no confirmed plans to buy a midfielder. But I know of plans to buy a midfield replacement if Pogba or VDB goes. And this feels very much like the club looking at a Pogba replacement. The player Camavinga has been compared to most is Paul Pogba, who also happens to be his idol. So it may be that the club is looking at Pogba v2.0 to replace Pogba.

So Camavinga will not be brought in to play with Pogba, it is as a replacement. I expect to see Pogba go if we move for Camavinga. May be wrong here and the club does buy Camavinga to play CDM and pair with Pogba, and then Ole relegates McFred to the bench, but that is my gut feel right now.

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Sweden game shows lindelof no awareness no focus again. last min of extra time unaware of any player behind him at all
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fatty shaw not bad sial. superb assist. pity no ppl credit him but all goes to sterling
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I thought Shaw-Grealish had a good understanding.
If Muller had put away that one on one chance, the Sterling hype would by dimmed quite a bit. Sterling knows that one was all on him.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 30 2021, 01:59 PM)
I thought Shaw-Grealish had a good understanding.
If Muller had put away that one on one chance, the Sterling hype would by dimmed quite a bit. Sterling knows that one was all on him.
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yeah can see from his reaction after Muller missed that chance.. camera panned in on him.. he was on his knees thanking the gods.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jun 30 2021, 10:46 AM)
fatty shaw not bad sial. superb assist. pity no ppl credit him but all goes to sterling
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not just assist he also won the ball for kane goal

deserve more credit.. facing kimmich and top it also rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(john_white @ Jun 29 2021, 10:19 AM)
you cant deny that he play well in this euro
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good against german, poor vs hungary, good vs portugal

good vs swiss wt great strike but then losing the ball for swiss equalizer
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While we are eyeing Rabiot.....

Rabiot's mom/agent gaduh with Mbappe's father bruce.gif
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Jun 29 2021, 04:59 PM)
janji azurri menang bero
the rest i don care
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jun 30 2021, 03:56 PM)
While we are eyeing Rabiot.....

Rabiot's mom/agent gaduh with Mbappe's father  bruce.gif
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this can be part of NTR nie brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jun 30 2021, 03:57 PM)
its coming home bruh....  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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how long mau coming home bruh

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QUOTE(James831 @ Jul 1 2021, 02:23 AM)
Finally. Now can concentrate on Varane or whoever else.
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Heard Sancho gonna wear number 7 😱 my Cavani macam mana? 😭
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Jun 30 2021, 08:07 PM)
how long mau coming home bruh
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Ini karilah bro. As long as Liverpool player don’t play confirm it’s coming home 😏😏😏
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 1 2021, 05:52 AM)
Heard Sancho gonna wear number 7 😱 my Cavani macam mana? 😭
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 1 2021, 05:52 AM)
Heard Sancho gonna wear number 7 😱 my Cavani macam mana? 😭
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Better don’t give so much pressure on first year. No. 7 seems to be cursed since a few years ago. A lot of players underperforming when wearing that number
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I want El Matador to maintain #7
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 28 2021, 01:43 PM)
Squad Opinion

Transfer Outs
Not much news happening on this front. The players who were touted to be moved on this summer DDG/Henderson, Lingard, Perreira, Dalot.
News coming out of Carrington is that Ole wants to evaluate players like Lingard & Dalot in training. You can read this two ways. Either Ole has suddenly came up with ideas to integrate players he did not want last season into the squad, or there is a lack of demand to buy the players. It may well be the latter. If this is the case, our transfer budget may take a hit as expected funds are not materializing.

Players like Mata, Matic and Jones are expected to see another season with us due to the total lack of interest from other parties to do a deal.
Squad Composition for 21/22

GK
News is that DDG is staying for now. In other words, nobody is interested to buy and pay those wages.
Tom Heaton is being signed as backup already, which means one of either DDG or Henderson must be moved. Otherwise, it will be another season of shared GK duties and that means more pressure which does not help anyone. One small mistake, and people will be quick to point to the other option available. Compare this with the stability of Allison at Liverpool, who has the confidence of being number 1 despite some mistakes.

If this continues, we may end up keeping DDG and selling Henderson.
Defence
Maguire is staying, and Lindelof and Bailly looks to be playing backup next season. Tuanzebe is looking for a loan move away, which is sad to see. He was never really given a chance.
The news on a new CB buy seems to revolve around 2 players, Varane and Pau Torres.

The worry for Torres is that he may not have the profile and a similar player to Lindelof. I can see Ole benching Torres like VDB and playing Maguire-Lindelof again next season.
As for Varane, he has the profile to go right into the team. But my concern here is if he is even serious about joining. Remember the last Real Madrid defender to be linked with us? Ramos made all the right noises about joining United 5 years ago, only to squeeze another lucrative contract out of Real.

Either way, if we get Torres or Varane, I'd be happy.

We are apparently also looking for cover at RB for AWB. Ole didn't think Dalot was up for the job last season, and barely gave Williams a start. Trippier has been sounded out but his price of 30-40M for a 30 year old looks steep for defensive cover. Ancelotti apparently in interested bringing Dalot to Real Madrid, our transfer team may be able to position this together with a Varane move. Stay tuned.

Left backs, we are well covered.
Midfield
Fred, McTominay, Bruno Fernandes and Matic will be with us.
Not sure if Ole will promote Garner to the senior squad.

With the transfers out not happening, the club is evaluating selling VDB which is painful to see.
Leaks suggest that we may only buy a midfielder if Pogba moves, which means the critical CDM position may not happen this season. Two news outlets have put out articles about our interest in Camavinga, but I am not taking it seriously at this stage.

Pogba will be hard to replace if he moves, but circumstances point towards a new contract as other clubs are unlikely to provide him the wages he United can.
Attack

With Sancho almost done, we will have Rashford, Martial, James, Greenwood and Cavani in the senior squad next season.
Question marks if we will sell Lingard or Perreira. The club should not keep them, there is no place in the squad.
Amad Diallo and Pellestri could make the senior squad next season.
Academy graduates Shoretire and Hannibal are the hot youngsters.

Martial could be sold to raise fund and that will leave us light upfront. I am for retaining Martial as Cavani is in his final season.
James is not good enough but I do not see interest for him.

I do not think we will buy a striker this season, perhaps next season depending on how things turn out.
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Andreas Perreira, such high hopes, yet, he didn't come close fulfilling all the talks people were talking during his youth days. Wonder what happen? Cannot handle criticism?

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QUOTE(tontolou @ Jul 1 2021, 08:13 AM)
Andreas Perreira, such high hopes, yet, he didn't come close fulfilling all the talks people were talking during his youth days. Wonder what happen? Cannot handle criticism?
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I still remember watching that u-20 world cup where he was the star of the team and thinking to myself we are getting our own Neymar with the way he was taking responsibility and dictating the play. Sadly it didn't happen. Oh well , pretty sure he can still have a good career in a mid table teams. He just need to be given the chance i suppose.
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Sancho confirmed to man Utd.

Wonder which number he'll get..
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QUOTE(tontolou @ Jul 1 2021, 08:13 AM)
Andreas Perreira, such high hopes, yet, he didn't come close fulfilling all the talks people were talking during his youth days. Wonder what happen? Cannot handle criticism?
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When you are young, people tend to talk more on your potential than actual ability. And potential is a very subjective thing.
Perreira is a good player, just that he never reached an elite level ability which is required to play for United. That is they way it goes, it is not an indication that something is wrong. Most academy stars never reach the top, only a handful do. That is how the football pyramid works.

Happy to see the Sancho deal done and we finally get to move on.

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QUOTE(state of abyssmal @ Jul 1 2021, 10:19 AM)
sancho in , martial out?  hmm.gif
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From what I know, the Sancho purchase is to slot into the RW which we lack.
It is not as a replacement of any current players. So the Sancho deal has no influence on Martial's future.

On a replacement transfer strategy, the most likely is a Pogba replacement if he chooses to move on.
If the club acquires a midfielder this window I would expect that to weigh in on Pogba moving.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 1 2021, 10:24 AM)
From what I know, the Sancho purchase is to slot into the RW which we lack.
It is not as a replacement of any current players. So the Sancho deal has no influence on Martial's future.

On a replacement transfer strategy, the most likely is a Pogba replacement if he chooses to move on.
If the club acquires a midfielder this window I would expect that to weigh in on Pogba moving.
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I have a suspicion that pogba and martial been told to find another club. That psg rumour on pogba is probably true and we will definitely accept a cut price on him.

On martial's case is a bit delicate. Im guessing if a suitor is found then a transfer is definitely on the cards.

At the end of the day, we might be bringing in three more players just to compensate the going outs.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Jul 1 2021, 10:40 AM)
I have a suspicion that pogba and martial been told to find another club. That psg rumour on pogba is probably true and we will definitely accept a cut price on him.

On martial's case is a bit delicate. Im guessing if a suitor is found then a transfer is definitely on the cards.

At the end of the day, we might be bringing in three more players just to compensate the going outs.
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Pogba's situation for the club is that Bruno's contract negotiations is also influenced by Pogba's decision. Bruno has held up contract talks and wants to see club ambition, starting with Pogba.
If Pogba leaves, a suitable replacement has to be found and that is the first step in keeping our star man. No doubt, Bruno Fernandes wants to win titles and will not stomach a big paycheck with being content finishing in a CL spot every season as Glazernonics dictates. I suspect the buzz around Camavinga is generated from a possible Pogba departure. Saul Niguez has been sounded out too. Goretzka's name has been thrown in but I understand that this is coming from his own camp to push contract renewal terms so there is no concrete interest from United.

Martial is sticky. Because he is at a prime age, and Cavani is leaving next season which will leave us light upfront. Selling Martial would mean we are two down upfront.
I do not think the club is looking to sell Martial, UNLESS he asks to leave.
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Jul 1 2021, 10:40 AM)
I have a suspicion that pogba and martial been told to find another club. That psg rumour on pogba is probably true and we will definitely accept a cut price on him.

On martial's case is a bit delicate. Im guessing if a suitor is found then a transfer is definitely on the cards.

At the end of the day, we might be bringing in three more players just to compensate the going outs.
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Pogba left a year contract and his current wages is around 300k, rumours he won't sign unless Kayu table 400k for him.

Now we have dilemma on Pogba case, we have to break the wages structure to sign him which currently DDG earning 375k, Sancho wages about 300k and i don't think we can afford to increase Pogba wages. But this Mino will rather let Pogba become free agent so that he can squeeze more from the next club. The only team afford to sign Pogba is PSG, RM will not sign him after Zidane left and Ancelotti doesn't need him, Juventus financial is in dire situation until Ronaldo has to take pay cut.

Martial just sign contract extension and i doubt Ole will let him leave, in this current market not many club can afford Martial wages about 200k+
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Jogba shows it all vs Swiss. Inconsistency. Give ball away lead to go. Brilliant one moment gg next.

Surprised sancho cost so much. Got new player better than nothing though. Should not wear 7. Heavy burden


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anyone putting money on denmark swiss?
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jul 1 2021, 06:14 PM)
what a weird week, benitez joining everton and spurs getting nuno.
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but why............
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Mbappe not signing extension liao. Chance lai liao mali mali

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Haha finally back in home country jadon sancho laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 1 2021, 07:14 PM)
Mbappe not signing extension liao. Chance lai liao mali mali

Edit messi also free agent now
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If United manage to sign either Mbappe or Messi this season, I'll buy and wear not just Liverpool jersey....but also Chelsea, City and Spurs. puke.gif
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sancho here we go

so, murtough get me wrong first time.

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jul 1 2021, 08:35 PM)
sancho here we go

so, murtough get me wrong first time.
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Actually, the Murtough appointment had minimal influece on the Sancho deal.
The negotiations were a continuation of last season.
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Ramos to psg
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Messi to united? Dreaming in FM hahah

Nice to finally get a right winger. Next cdm and CD. Ramos gonna be a good free signing for us, but i think he gonna go psg
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so who next after sancho? varane? goreztka?
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jul 2 2021, 10:33 AM)
so who next after sancho? varane? goreztka?
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Next on the list is a CB. Which currently is Varane or Pau Torres.

After a CB purchase it is expected that United will not make any more buys unless funded by sales so we will need to see players out before bringing more in.
At this point. it will be Bruno's contract renewal that will be a priority.

So a midfielder does not look likely unless someone moves out. Goretzka is not one of the candidates, suspect the news is generated by Goretzka's own camp to fuel his contract renewal on better terms.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 2 2021, 11:48 AM)
Next on the list is a CB. Which currently is Varane or Pau Torres.

After a CB purchase it is expected that United will not make any more buys unless funded by sales so we will need to see players out before bringing more in.
At this point. it will be Bruno's contract renewal that will be a priority.

So a midfielder does not look likely unless someone moves out. Goretzka is not one of the candidates, suspect the news is generated by Goretzka's own camp to fuel his contract renewal on better terms.
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Bruno contract got many yr left.. I think club ready to offer him new ones but not desperate yet

Making decision on pogba is the priority

I believe its possible to sign CB and DM this term if can get good price.. Sancho is last season budget
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 2 2021, 11:48 AM)
Next on the list is a CB. Which currently is Varane or Pau Torres.

After a CB purchase it is expected that United will not make any more buys unless funded by sales so we will need to see players out before bringing more in.
At this point. it will be Bruno's contract renewal that will be a priority.

So a midfielder does not look likely unless someone moves out. Goretzka is not one of the candidates, suspect the news is generated by Goretzka's own camp to fuel his contract renewal on better terms.
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hopefully not 50m for varane with one year remaining... not that the money is from my pocket... but harap no give big money for rm biggrin.gif maybe some fee + jones.. if anyone stil rmb.. dude with us for 10 years already tongue.gif
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Current target look like Varane. And no concrete sign about CDM atm.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 2 2021, 01:30 PM)
hopefully not 50m for varane with one year remaining... not that the money is from my pocket... but harap no give big money for rm  biggrin.gif maybe some fee + jones.. if anyone stil rmb.. dude with us for 10 years already  tongue.gif
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All things considered, will United be able to get any top drawer defender for anything less than 40M? As soon as United as interested, the price jumps.
Even an unproven AWB cost us 50M. So for Varane with one year left on his contract, it's steep by I would pay it if I can get him to come. He is good for at least another 5 seasons. Ancelotti is rumoured to like Dalot, so maybe some sort of deal can be structured there. No football team worth their salt will buy Phil Jones, who we somehow gave a 5 year contract to.

The club priority that I can see based on sources from within the clubs and leaks are :
1. Sancho
2. CB
3. Bruno's contract
4. Player sales - If there are sales, these funds will be used towards a CM or RB

I have said it before the transfer window and I'll put it again; if United buys a CB, CDM & RW I will consider this window a success for the transfer team.
Ole will have no excuses.

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I forgot about Camavinga. But still no concrete proof we are after him as well.
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Varane coming I think https://global.espn.com/football/soccer-tra...-varane-sources
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 1 2021, 07:14 PM)
Mbappe not signing extension liao. Chance lai liao mali mali

Edit messi also free agent now
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Watching he sulk in euro i kinda lost interest
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 2 2021, 02:40 PM)
All things considered, will United be able to get any top drawer defender for anything less than 40M? As soon as United as interested, the price jumps.
Even an unproven AWB cost us 50M. So for Varane with one year left on his contract, it's steep by I would pay it if I can get him to come. He is good for at least another 5 seasons. Ancelotti is rumoured to like Dalot, so maybe some sort of deal can be structured there. No football team worth their salt will buy Phil Jones, who we somehow gave a 5 year contract to.

The club priority that I can see based on sources from within the clubs and leaks are :
1. Sancho
2. CB
3. Bruno's contract
4. Player sales - If there are sales, these funds will be used towards a CM or RB

I have said it before the transfer window and I'll put it again; if United buys a CB, CDM & RW I will consider this window a success for the transfer team.
Ole will have no excuses.
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AWB had the best defensive stats in Europe the season before he was brought over to United. So 50 mil was justified at that time.
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who knows how the right wing will look like with Sancho? Will need to work it out with AWB to form a solid partnership. I think this gives AWB a great great 3rd chance. Hope he makes good use.

We need to get the Varane deal done, that'll really shore us up. I can't believe it if you tell me actually Varane is already older than Maguire. Is he? Used to be one of the first on my buy list with Football Manager when he was under 20.

As a MU fan, for the last 3 years I have given up dreaming about top players in their prime. Especially those we actually need.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 2 2021, 04:42 PM)
Watching he sulk in euro i kinda lost interest
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I think he is still one of the best la. But if can discount n buy why not
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 2 2021, 06:16 PM)
who knows how the right wing will look like with Sancho? Will need to work it out with AWB to form a solid partnership. I think this gives AWB a great great 3rd chance. Hope he makes good use.

We need to get the Varane deal done, that'll really shore us up. I can't believe it if you tell me actually Varane is already older than Maguire. Is he? Used to be one of the first on my buy list with Football Manager when he was under 20.

As a MU fan, for the last 3 years I have given up dreaming about top players in their prime. Especially those we actually need.
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We need to get the Varane deal done, that'll really shore us up. I can't believe it if you tell me actually Varane is already older than Maguire. Is he? Used to be one of the first on my buy list with Football Manager when he was under 20.
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Varane is the same age as Maguire. 28.

QUOTE(sinoffire @ Jul 2 2021, 06:56 PM)
This one, I'm probably going to get some stick because I don't agree with this.
Sentimentality at play. Aguero was a legend at City but once he doesn't fit in, he has to go. Mata has lost his legs at this level for the past couple of years, but still gets a new contract.

So instead of giving Diallo, Pellestri, Shoretire or Elanga playing time in Cup games, we are going to give it to Mata?

QUOTE(yvliew @ Jul 2 2021, 08:40 PM)
Won't ask much, next season just climb spot above last season already enough. =p
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Varane is the same age as Maguire. 28.
This one, I'm probably going to get some stick because I don't agree with this.
Sentimentality at play. Aguero was a legend at City but once he doesn't fit in, he has to go. Mata has lost his legs at this level for the past couple of years, but still gets a new contract.

So instead of giving Diallo, Pellestri, Shoretire or Elanga playing time in Cup games, we are going to give it to Mata?
Champion le tu.
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Maybe a pay per play contract?
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Maybe a pay per play contract?
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The play part is the issue, he shouldn't even be playing. I'd rather that slot go to the youngsters.
I would understand if it was an ambassadorial contract and not a playing one.

For the 3 forward senior positions we already have Cavani, Sancho, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, James. 6 players for 3 slots.
Plus Lingard and Perreira if we don't sell them.

How are we going to fit some of the youngsters in there who need senior minutes like Elanga, Diallo, Pellestri, Shoretire, Hannibal?
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walao, swiss players really let down sommer. he doesn't deserve to lose. motm for me.

that spain keeper move here and there actually damn confusing. if i am player i also dunno where should i shoot. 3 misses on penalty.

both keeper really good in penalty.

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 3 2021, 02:48 AM)
walao, swiss players really let down sommer. he doesn't deserve to lose. motm for me.

that spain keeper move here and there actually damn confusing. if i am player i also dunno where should i shoot. 3 misses on penalty.

both keeper really good in penalty.

watching penalty really bring back heartbreak memory watching ddg perform in penalty zzzzzzzzz
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 2 2021, 10:48 PM)
The play part is the issue, he shouldn't even be playing. I'd rather that slot go to the youngsters.
I would understand if it was an ambassadorial contract and not a playing one.

For the 3 forward senior positions we already have Cavani, Sancho, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, James. 6 players for 3 slots.
Plus Lingard and Perreira if we don't sell them.

How are we going to fit some of the youngsters in there who need senior minutes like Elanga, Diallo, Pellestri, Shoretire, Hannibal?
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Varane, well for me max it’s 35 to 40M but that also a gamble as his form was so so last season with RM and his performance with the national team.

If you look at his stats, he is almost similar type with our captain Maguire but last season his stats were below than Maguire. So we are gambling on 2 similar type of defenders, either we win or we leaking more goals.

After Varane, the biggest problem here is to sell players. DDG and Pogba, both at “to sell or not to sell” category. No team out there willing to pay 350k for a keeper (PSG already signed a keeper) and we are in a dilemma to renew a 350 to 400k contract with Pogba.

Signing of Heaton and Grant renewed contract giving hints that either Dean or DDG will go, if not Ole won’t sign a backup keeper as we know Dean or DDG won’t be happy sitting at the bench as 2nd choice
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2021, 05:44 PM)
Varane, well for me max it’s 35 to 40M but that also a gamble as his form was so so last season with RM and his performance with the national team.

If you look at his stats, he is almost similar type with our captain Maguire but last season his stats were below than Maguire. So we are gambling on 2 similar type of defenders, either we win or we leaking more goals.

After Varane, the biggest problem here is to sell players. DDG and Pogba, both at “to sell or not to sell” category. No team out there willing to pay 350k for a keeper (PSG already signed a keeper) and we are in a dilemma to renew a 350 to 400k contract with Pogba.

Signing of Heaton and Grant renewed contract giving hints that either Dean or DDG will go, if not Ole won’t sign a backup keeper as we know Dean or DDG won’t be happy sitting at the bench as 2nd choice
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Varane is an upgrade to what we have, that alone is a big plus to sign him already. U wan lindelof n baily as maguire backup, then we gonna be fighting top6 again. Lindelof had enough chances, but time n time again, loses his player n opponent score.

DDG time may be up. Its now or never to move him..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 3 2021, 07:08 PM)
Varane is an upgrade to what we have, that alone is a big plus to sign him already. U wan lindelof n baily as maguire backup, then we gonna be fighting top6 again. Lindelof had enough chances, but time n time again, loses his player n opponent score.

DDG time may be up. Its now or never to move him..
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if we buy all the best player in the world, the big question is, is ole pandai to use them all? hmm.gif last time when saf sign nobody pun we all got excited like crazy. now sancho/varane pun mcm biasa2 je eventhough they both kinda a big signing wink.gif

not saying i dont happy la if got both but kinda skeptical if ole know how to use them confused.gif

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2021, 05:44 PM)
Varane, well for me max it’s 35 to 40M but that also a gamble as his form was so so last season with RM and his performance with the national team.

If you look at his stats, he is almost similar type with our captain Maguire but last season his stats were below than Maguire. So we are gambling on 2 similar type of defenders, either we win or we leaking more goals.

After Varane, the biggest problem here is to sell players. DDG and Pogba, both at “to sell or not to sell” category. No team out there willing to pay 350k for a keeper (PSG already signed a keeper) and we are in a dilemma to renew a 350 to 400k contract with Pogba.

Signing of Heaton and Grant renewed contract giving hints that either Dean or DDG will go, if not Ole won’t sign a backup keeper as we know Dean or DDG won’t be happy sitting at the bench as 2nd choice
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On Varane, any player is a gamble. But as they say, form is temporary and class in permanent?
I'm inclined to believe that a 4x ECC and WC winner is class.

QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 3 2021, 07:08 PM)
Varane is an upgrade to what we have, that alone is a big plus to sign him already. U wan lindelof n baily as maguire backup, then we gonna be fighting top6 again. Lindelof had enough chances, but time n time again, loses his player n opponent score.

DDG time may be up. Its now or never to move him..
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There are no takers for DDG. All the big clubs have their keeper slots filled.
Henderson may be easier to move.

QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 3 2021, 07:23 PM)
if we buy all the best player in the world, the big question is, is ole pandai to use them all?  hmm.gif last time when saf sign nobody pun we all got excited like crazy. now sancho/varane pun mcm biasa2 je eventhough they both kinda a big signing  wink.gif

not saying i dont happy la if got both but kinda skeptical if ole know how to use them  confused.gif
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It's abig of a chicken and egg. Players or manager first.
To be fiar, Ole can say he is playing McFred because he has no options, and we did finish second.

So let's give him the players and see what he can do. If he doesn't make it, then he has no excuses.


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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 3 2021, 07:08 PM)
Varane is an upgrade to what we have, that alone is a big plus to sign him already. U wan lindelof n baily as maguire backup, then we gonna be fighting top6 again. Lindelof had enough chances, but time n time again, loses his player n opponent score.

DDG time may be up. Its now or never to move him..
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Varane was good, he won trophies but his recent performance was so so, hopefully this gamble pay off and he discovered his form again

DDG time is up but nobody willing for that salary beside PSG and PSG already signed Donnarumma. Either we do the same like how we sold Sanchez, we paying half of DDG’s salary and let him join whatever bid comes
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nothing about CDM...
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nothing about CDM...
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This year we focus mainly on RW, CB and RB
CDM or CM only after we able to sell DDG/ Pogba/ Martial
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2021, 07:31 PM)
Varane was good, he won trophies but his recent performance was so so, hopefully this gamble pay off and he discovered his form again

DDG time is up but nobody willing for that salary beside PSG and PSG already signed Donnarumma. Either we do the same like how we sold Sanchez, we paying half of DDG’s salary and let him join whatever bid comes
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Inter milan's keeper mcm old already. maybe he have chance there laugh.gif

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Inter milan's keeper mcm old already. maybe he have chance there  laugh.gif
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They don’t even have money to pay us the for remaining fees for Lukaku, let alone signing DDG LOL
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 3 2021, 08:12 PM)
Inter milan's keeper mcm old already. maybe he have chance there  laugh.gif
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They don’t even have money to pay us the for remaining fees for Lukaku, let alone signing DDG LOL
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That's true.
Conte resigned from Inter because they needed to sell players and could not invest. Inter is a selling club right now. They cannot afford to buy anyone.
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Two names pop up recently.. Declan rice, camavinga

Declan reject 2 renew contract frm hammers. He gonna cost fortune but can see united monitoring his status. He asked maguire shaw before bout united. Can offer money + lingard.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 2 2021, 09:14 PM)
Varane is the same age as Maguire. 28.
This one, I'm probably going to get some stick because I don't agree with this.
Sentimentality at play. Aguero was a legend at City but once he doesn't fit in, he has to go. Mata has lost his legs at this level for the past couple of years, but still gets a new contract.

So instead of giving Diallo, Pellestri, Shoretire or Elanga playing time in Cup games, we are going to give it to Mata?
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Based on the news circulating around, Mata play a important role in the dressing room too, hear say he is taking pay cut to keep at the club, besides he is going after UEFA coaching badges, he might be a important coaching staff in the future.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 3 2021, 10:05 PM)
Based on the news circulating around, Mata play a important role in the dressing room too, hear say he is taking pay cut to keep at the club, besides he is going after UEFA coaching badges, he might be a important coaching staff in the future.
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Yes, he is taking pay cut to stay, with his age, he still can play regular first team at teams like Europa Cup champion Virrarel, Real Sociedad or even Valencia
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 3 2021, 10:05 PM)
Based on the news circulating around, Mata play a important role in the dressing room too, hear say he is taking pay cut to keep at the club, besides he is going after UEFA coaching badges, he might be a important coaching staff in the future.
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That's just my opinion, the club does what it wants anyway.
A pay cut doesn't justify it if he isn't good for game time. If he joins the coaching staff, then I'd be happy for the coaching badges angle. My personal stance is players that aren't good enough should be allowed to leave. Phil Jones a couple of years ago, Mata today.

If we are giving contracts out to players because of their role in the dressing room instead of ability, then I'd like to give that contract to Roy Keane. Yeah. He'll stiffen up this lot. In the dressing room seats, get Fred to sit on Keane's left and McTominay to sit on his right.

But it's done so gotta live with it and move on.

On transfers I hear Declan Rice. Yes, United are monitoring the situation but we are unlikely to afford him unless we generate some big player sales to raise at least 70M. If we go for him, we might get him. If Chelsea also goes for him, then Rice is going to Chelsea. He comes from a Chelsea supporting family, and his best pal is Mason Mount.
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I think Mata's contribution is more than just on pitch time
His off field work is probably what the club wants
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Wow. Shaw 2 assist. Maguire got 1 goal. Shaw really up the ante is it in this tournament 😱
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Meh. Didn't do anything spectacular. Too many backpass trying to play safe.
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This is Sancho's first start in euro. Go go England!
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 3 2021, 07:23 PM)
if we buy all the best player in the world, the big question is, is ole pandai to use them all?  hmm.gif last time when saf sign nobody pun we all got excited like crazy. now sancho/varane pun mcm biasa2 je eventhough they both kinda a big signing  wink.gif

not saying i dont happy la if got both but kinda skeptical if ole know how to use them  :confused:
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I not excited cause they don't promise great things even though price tag is great. If they are that good, Southgate already play sancho every game. Varane didn't see him play but no hot news on him either.

If haaland messi kdb kante comes and play like shit then it's ole fault. Otherwise I think both players manager share responsibility. Somehow I think ole know how to use sancho though, since he has been chasing him for 2 seasons. Dun think it's kayu wish and not ole.
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Jul 4 2021, 10:42 AM)
Meh. Didn't do anything spectacular. Too many backpass trying to play safe.
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got 1 time he made an awesome dribble passed 3 opponents, until they need to bad tackle take him down

but only that la tongue.gif

the rest is like u said, meh
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Latest news is that Varane has agreed personal terms with United. What is left is for United to negotiate with Real Madrid on a potential transfer fee. Also, it is rumoured that Madrid is positioning for VDB to be part of the deal.

PSG is starting to make a move for Pogba. Can you imagine a Pogba-Veratti-Wijnaldum midfield?

More news to follow soon.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 4 2021, 06:39 PM)
Latest news is that Varane has agreed personal terms with United. What is left is for United to negotiate with Real Madrid on a potential transfer fee. Also, it is rumoured that Madrid is positioning for VDB to be part of the deal.

PSG is starting to make a move for Pogba. Can you imagine a Pogba-Veratti-Wijnaldum midfield?

More news to follow soon.
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Had a few potential topics and some time on a Sunday night to explore, and thought that putting down some words on the Manchester United defence situation would be timely.

Prior to the season ending, there was a general acceptance that a CB was one of the priorities for this transfer window. Now we all have our opinions on who should come in, and my first pick (Despite me not thinking the club to be competent enough to make it happen) was Raphael Varane. Being in his final year on his contract. I think this was already put out there in earlier posts (May need to dig em out for reference). With things developing nicely this transfer window, thought it would be a good time for us to discuss the CB buy. Who was your first choice for CB transfer?

Before the transfer window started, there were 3 names touted as potential transfers. For a while, it seemed Kounde would be first priority. Then there was Pau Torres, and finally Varane. Kounde quickly fell off the list and now United are surprisingly close to a deal for Varane instead of Torres, who I understand to be the backup option. Why Varane for me?


Ability. Now ability is subjective, we all will have an individual opinion on this player looking better. But what isn't up for debate is the CV. There are barely any defenders in world football with Varane's CV. This is a player who is a known winner, having played at the highest levels. And his profile means Ole cannot pull a VDB on him, choosing to start Maguire-Lindelof while saying Varane is settling in nicely in training and needs time to adapt. I can see this happening with younger players with a lesser profile. But Varane goes straight into the first team.


Tactical Positioning. Now if you ever played football, you will know that attackers can thrive on individual brilliance but the defence always functions as a unit. You are only as good as the unit you operate in. Go ask Chiellini and Bonucci. When we evaluate defenders, we need to evaluate them relative to their immediate partners. Luke Shaw was a good player, but I can think we can all agree that in the past 2 seasons he's been arguably the best left back in the League. Why? Harry Maguire. Luke Shaw's rise is directly because of Maguire's influence, look at Shaw before Maguire to see the difference. Maguire prefers a left sided CB role and has struck a strong partnership with his immediate LB, Shaw. Maguire doesn't get enough credit on the rise of Luke Shaw but he is a massive influence. Their partnership is strong not just for United, it also applies for England. I prefer Varane over Tores because Varane is a right sided CB, allowing him to slide right alongside Maguire. Torres is a left footed left sided CB, which means if he slides into his favoured position, we will risk breaking up the Maguire-Shaw partnership and moving Maguire into a right sided CB role.

Now the opposite side at RB, AWB is suffering from this same dynamic. Time and again, we see this flank being exploited by deep crosses in. The striker will ghost in behind Lindelof and AWB has to tuck in to cover. Is it Lindelof, or is it AWB's fault? We will never find out because both are culpable in a partnership. AWB is also criticised for not being expansive enough and being too defensive, but it is also influenced by the fact that he has no proper RW ahead of him. The worst performance was against Everton where Mata did not have the legs to cover and AWB got double teamed the entire game. With Sancho, we hope to see AWB function in a proper attacking RB role. And if Varane comes in to replace Lindelof on the right side, we will see if this fixes the positioning problem on deep crosses.


Price. Now some will think 50M for Varane is too much and some will think it is okay. I think if the transfer fee comes to 50M Euros, it is fine. Expensive or not is relative to the ruler you use to measure the price. Yes, there is one year left on his contract. But how much would Varane cost if he was not in his final year? Maguire cost us 80M from Leicester without being a CL or World Cup winner. Van Dijk cost a world record fee......from Southampton. For a 4 time UCL winner and a World Cup winner? Has to be above both of those. And even if we compare in the current window, what is 50M pounds (Let's go with the more expensive currency)? 50M pounds is what Brighton are making Arsenal pay for Ben White. Ben White! So if Manchester United spends 50M pounds on a player, would you prefer Raphael Varane or Ben White?


My main fear on the Varane transfer is the Ramos episode of 5 years ago. That he may end up signing a new contract at Madrid.
But if he comes, I am very satisfied with our transfer team in regards to filling the CB hole in the team.





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my hopes are not high on us being able to lure Varane. As you guys said this is just a Ramos situation. Hell we can't even get 35 year old Ramos, forget the 30 year old one.

Unless the guy says he's coming, Madrid says he's coming and I see him holding up a red shirt. Never believe anything coming out of Madrid.
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The situation now is diff from what happened to Ramos 5 years ago, RM is in financial troubles like Barca, even if you want to trade Pogba with Varane they won’t accept it because Pogba’s agent will negotiate for another mega deal for him which RM cannot afford now, they rather want straight cash, that’s why you won’t see them link with Pogba, Mpabbe, Haaland this season cuz they no money to do it
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€30M is a bargain, just get him.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...witzerland.html

pogba kena marah for being jogba haha.

with all the rumours, seems we are buying position that fans agree need to reinforce. if all reinforce, will be an exciting season. watching maguire form in england, if he was available in europa final, really maybe different story liao. haih. seems we dunno appreciate him, always kecam him lol.

stones make his partner godlike? ruben dias is just another defender with portugal. now maguire is shinning.

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2021, 10:12 AM)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...witzerland.html

pogba kena marah for being jogba haha.

with all the rumours, seems we are buying position that fans agree need to reinforce. if all reinforce, will be an exciting season. watching maguire form in england, if he was available in europa final, really maybe different story liao. haih. seems we dunno appreciate him, always kecam him lol.

stones make his partner godlike? ruben dias is just another defender with portugal. now maguire is shinning.
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1 more month before window closes.

in - sancho

potential in - varane, cavaminga? trippier?

need some out too - dalot, lingard, pereira?
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 4 2021, 11:32 PM)
my hopes are not high on us being able to lure Varane. As you guys said this is just a Ramos situation. Hell we can't even get 35 year old Ramos, forget the 30 year old one.

Unless the guy says he's coming, Madrid says he's coming and I see him holding up a red shirt. Never believe anything coming out of Madrid.
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Ramos sudah old liao, no point getting him. Varane still 28 years old, he still got about 3-4 years career.

Last time Ramos really use us as bait to extend his contract, Kayu also won't sign him this time.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 5 2021, 11:18 AM)
Ramos sudah old liao, no point getting him. Varane still 28 years old, he still got about 3-4 years career.

Last time Ramos really use us as bait to extend his contract, Kayu also won't sign him this time.
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And for those raving on about Maguire, he had a good game against Germany, and a great game vs Ukraine. But its Ukraine...which is more or less Dynamo Kiev....

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 5 2021, 11:18 AM)
Ramos sudah old liao, no point getting him. Varane still 28 years old, he still got about 3-4 years career.

Last time Ramos really use us as bait to extend his contract, Kayu also won't sign him this time.
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ramos to psg 2 years. i thought confirmed liao.. varane/pau.. surprised no pau news before varane news
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I think Mata's contribution is more than just on pitch time
His off field work is probably what the club wants
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mata is a great guy, never complaint
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ramos to psg 2 years. i thought confirmed liao.. varane/pau.. surprised no pau news before varane news
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More or less confirm, but rumors PSG dressing room not happy because the management didn't retain Thiago Silva on last season but this season sign Ramos


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More or less confirm, but rumors PSG dressing room not happy because the management didn't retain Thiago Silva on last season but this season sign Ramos
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Here are some transfer updates to get into.

Varane
Varane is now the top transfer target for Manchester United and is being treated as such. Personal terms is not going to be an issue as an agreement has been reached with Varane's reps on what he is expecting. Contact has been made with Real Madrid in regards to an transfer but no formal bid has yet to be made. Real is also looking to get Van De Beek on a one year loan with an option to buy but United are reluctant to include VDB as the club has no intention to sell.

Varane is represented by a new agency and has indicated that he prefers to move on to a new challenge. There are members on Real's board that still believe that a contract agreement can be reached with Varane to change his mind. This will not conclude anytime soon, give it time to progress.

There is also the threat of a late Chelsea interest hijacking the deal but there has been no movement from Chelsea yet. But can anyone forget the Jorginho-City episode from 3 years back? Chelsea and PSG are world class in the transfer market. PSG just hijacked Wijnaldum to Barca but may not move for Varane due to the signing of Ramos.


Camavinga

Talks between United and Rennes are accelerating but it is said that the player himself is in no rush to decide. Rennes prefers to sell than lose Camavinga on a free and the Covid hit climate means less competition for one of the hottest young talents in world football. A fee of around 30M has been rumoured to be part of the discussion, with a weekly wage of around 120k per week.

The good news here is that Fabrizio Romano has reported that the Camavinga deal is independent of the Pogba situation and United are very keen to add him to the squad. Main contenders here are PSG who are monitoring the situation but have yet to make an official bid.


Additional Transfer news

- There is news coming out of Italy that Manchester United is keeping tabs on Inter's Brozovic as a midfield addition for around 30M if Pogba goes.
- Danny Ings is in his last year of contract with news linking him to United. Aside from the British passport that United love, I don't see much in this.
- Dan James has interest coming from Brighton over a potential transfer. I think if we can recoup the fee we paid for him, it is time to let him go.
- No news on any interest on Lingard, Perreira or Dalot.


And the sticky goalkeeper situation.....

This is a self created problem that United made for ourselves and probably the messiest part of the transfer strategy. De Gea has indicated that he wishes to stay. And there is no team that can afford De Gea today. The closest was PSG but they have just signed Donnaruma. It is rumoured that Henderson has put out demands that he be assured of the main GK position and Ole has given that to him.

I am of the opinion that Henderson was easier to move out on transfer. After reviewing our GKs performance over last season when given opportunities, my opinion is that DDG is the better keeper. Henderson is still young but has not shown the heights that DDG is capable of. Best GK performance last season? Easy. DDG against Roma. Worst GK performance last season? Henderson against Liverpool. For a 23 year old keeper who has not played a full season at United to demand assurances on a starting spot, Ferguson would have slapped him down.

We now have a goalkeeping problem. Regardless of who you pick as your GK, I think we can agree having both DDG and Henderson at the club next season is a failure. Especially with Heaton and Grant signing contracts. It just builds pressure on the other. The moment one of them makes the slightest mistake, the media will turn up the pressure demanding the other to play. Case in point, look at Spain's Unai Simon conceding an absolute horror of a goal. But the stability of being first choice gave him the platform to recover the next game which helped the performance. Whoever United picks as first choice GK, we have to back that choice all the way.


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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 5 2021, 03:02 PM)
ramos to psg 2 years. i thought confirmed liao.. varane/pau.. surprised no pau news before varane news
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it is said psg only offer 1+1 ramos want 2yr but likely will confirm

pau will cost more.. varane preferred. RM might go for pau if varane leave

camavinga on the move.. psg or they coming for pogba



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QUOTE(onepack @ Jul 5 2021, 08:07 PM)
it is said psg only offer 1+1 ramos want 2yr but likely will confirm

pau will cost more.. varane preferred. RM might go for pau if varane leave

camavinga on the move.. psg or they coming for pogba
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Pau Torres release clause at 65M.
Yes, Real are the favourites to replace Varane with the Spanish international if Varane moves.


For the first time in a LONG time, I can actually see what the club is trying to do in terms of transfer strategy.
We may not be able to pull off all the transfers but I can at least see what we were planning, and that helps.

Varane. Last year on the contract.
Camavinga. Last year of the contract.
Brozovic. Last year of the contract.
Ings. Last year of the contract.

With the pandemic economy, we are one of the few clubs who have any money to spend. Even Barca and Real are suffering. So we end up targeting the biggest players who are in their last year, and their clubs might need to sell because they are desperate for cash as their revenue streams were hit by the pandemic. I can appreciate the strategy.

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Varane and Camavinga, both personal deals not a problem, RM is holding back for 50M hoping he can sign extension Camavinga on the other side now only MU clear to sign, hopefully the payment structure can be iron out ASAP before PSG or even other team step foot in the war.

As for Trippier, I don’t fancy 30 years old player at 40M fees, i rather give Dalot another chance since he is way younger.



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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 6 2021, 12:16 AM)
As for Trippier, I don’t fancy 30 years old player at 40M fees, i rather give Dalot another chance since he is way younger.
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Latest news suggest that United are not going for Trippier due to the age and cost involved.
Dalot has improved a lot and has found consistency during his time in Milan. Unless there is a surprise offer coming for Dalot, Ole is expected to keep Dalot as part of the squad for now.
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I hope we can bring Camavinga. He can fit in the midfield with Pogba and Bruno. Well, if Pogba stays anyway laugh.gif

https://youtu.be/OskDWJpmPCE

The only concern for me is his physics, need to add more weight especially for the pivot role.

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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jul 6 2021, 08:52 AM)
I hope we can bring Camavinga. He can fit in the midfield with Pogba and Bruno. Well, if Pogba stays anyway  laugh.gif

https://youtu.be/OskDWJpmPCE

The only concern for me is his physics, need to add more weight especially for the pivot role.
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If Kante can, Camavinga can.... haha
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 5 2021, 08:31 PM)
Pau Torres release clause at 65M.
Yes, Real are the favourites to replace Varane with the Spanish international if Varane moves.
For the first time in a LONG time, I can actually see what the club is trying to do in terms of transfer strategy.
We may not be able to pull off all the transfers but I can at least see what we were planning, and that helps.

Varane. Last year on the contract.
Camavinga. Last year of the contract.
Brozovic. Last year of the contract.
Ings. Last year of the contract.

With the pandemic economy, we are one of the few clubs who have any money to spend. Even Barca and Real are suffering. So we end up targeting the biggest players who are in their last year, and their clubs might need to sell because they are desperate for cash as their revenue streams were hit by the pandemic. I can appreciate the strategy.
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We do have the bargaining power at this time. Sancho after a year we save about 30-40mil.

QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 6 2021, 12:40 AM)
Latest news suggest that United are not going for Trippier due to the age and cost involved.
Dalot has improved a lot and has found consistency during his time in Milan. Unless there is a surprise offer coming for Dalot, Ole is expected to keep Dalot as part of the squad for now.
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Trippier asking price is around 30mil, last year we just bought telles for 16mil if not mistaken. Ole might want Dalot to come back for pre season preparation to judge his progress.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 6 2021, 03:41 PM)
So aguero garcia anyone?
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If Kante can, Camavinga can.... haha
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Manchester United are progressing in direct contacts to sign Eduardo Camavinga! excited excited
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Camavinga will be hard coz only 30m plenty of clubs trying to sign him. As for varane real is demanding more than 50 m gpb

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Looking at camavinga highlight he seem more similar to pogba than kante.. But he sure look more rajin to challange for the ball.. Intercept and tackle.

Likely will partner fred instead of taking fred spot. Mctominay the one gonna lost place. But he is young and look versatile can be mould to partner pogba, mctominay. Might need some time to adapt

Like rio said declan look more ready to challange 1st eleven.. But at camavinga age he is top future talent 30mil is a bargain
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If jogba mau leave, sell aje. Get declan
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Camavinga and Fred behind with Bruno up front look way more balance compare to having Pogba in MF. Both Camavinga and Fred can attack and defence, when Fred is going for attack then Camavinga stay behind and vice versa.

No place for Pogba in MF, so if he stays, his likely position is LWF.
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Real PSG and Chelsea step their feet in now
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jul 7 2021, 09:15 AM)
Camavinga and Fred behind with Bruno up front look way more balance compare to having Pogba in MF. Both Camavinga and Fred can attack and defence, when Fred is going for attack then Camavinga stay behind and vice versa.

No place for Pogba in MF, so if he stays, his likely position is LWF.
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im jus worried Camavinga jus rot on bench. rmber VDB?
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im jus worried Camavinga jus rot on bench. rmber VDB?
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Rot aje la. Not you rot also haha. Watching euro keeper penalty saves i really sakit hati
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Rot aje la. Not you rot also haha. Watching euro keeper penalty saves i really sakit hati
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QUOTE(onepack @ Jul 6 2021, 11:53 PM)
Looking at camavinga highlight he seem more similar to pogba than kante.. But he sure look more rajin to challange for the ball.. Intercept and tackle.

Likely will partner fred instead of taking fred spot. Mctominay the one gonna lost place. But he is young and look versatile can be mould to partner pogba, mctominay. Might need some time to adapt

Like rio said declan look more ready to challange 1st eleven.. But at camavinga age he is top future talent 30mil is a bargain
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jul 7 2021, 09:15 AM)
Camavinga and Fred behind with Bruno up front look way more balance compare to having Pogba in MF. Both Camavinga and Fred can attack and defence, when Fred is going for attack then Camavinga stay behind and vice versa.

No place for Pogba in MF, so if he stays, his likely position is LWF.
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He reminds me of the young version of Modric minus the vision but he is more powerful

He and Fred I think will be a disaster cuz I watch some of his games, he seems look like Fred, good in break out opponent’s built up play but he easily lose possession like Fred and both of them are bad in aerial duel, so I guess McTom still have role to play

QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 7 2021, 10:38 PM)
im jus worried Camavinga jus rot on bench. rmber VDB?
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Overall he is way better than VDB, 19 years old and he play 90+ matches, UCL and Europa League experience and he is also national team player.

For VDB, if the deal for Varane involving him, I said why not since RM last time did interested on him but we beat them maybe due to we offered Ajax better. VDB needs to play as next year is WC and he won’t risking losing his place.




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England vs Italy finals. Declan rice price sure go up
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England vs Italy finals. Declan rice price sure go up
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why sakit hati.. DGea? haha..
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That sterling penalty macam dive only. Var not doing it's job
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I doubt Man Utd has a lot of money to spend. First Sancho might cost 72.6m but it is split into 5 years installment. Mean they paid about 15m for him now.

If Man Utd has 100m to spend this summer transfer, minus 15m still have 85m. If Varane cost 50m, then left with 35m.

And no way Man Utd can buy Rice with 35m. So they target cheaper DM like Camavinga, Brozovic, Neves...
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jul 8 2021, 03:55 PM)
I doubt Man Utd has a lot of money to spend. First Sancho might cost 72.6m but it is split into 5 years installment. Mean they paid about 15m for him now.

If Man Utd has 100m to spend this summer transfer, minus 15m still have 85m. If Varane cost 50m, then left with 35m.

And no way Man Utd can buy Rice with 35m. So they target cheaper DM like Camavinga, Brozovic, Neves...
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i think these days DM cant fetch v high price cause not goal scoring per se... if we can clear out some players can fetch some money too... although our track records, we dont really sell players at a reasonable price... but i think lingard still can get some price. sayang not in euro. haha.. inter still owe us money for lukaku... not sure if that 100m includes potential money from lukaku instalment or not tongue.gif

Also henderson and DDG likely one to leave... since got grant and heaton renewed tongue.gif

if we get cama or neves.. most of us wont complain also laugh.gif

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Camavinga is not a specialist CDM. In fact, Camavinga is closer to an "8" like Pogba. But he has interesting tackling stats, but low interception stats. Which means he prefers to get stuck in rather than waiting for an opportunity via positioning. But keep in mind, Camavinga is only 18. He can be whatever type of midfielder he wants to be. So let's not pigeonhole him right now. I've seen him play for Rennes on a few occasions, and he does have one quality that will help us. He is quite press resistant, and is quite good at bringing the ball out of defence.

Rice, does not look like anything will happen this summer. West Ham are pretty confident of keeping him.

Neves, we do not seem to have an interest in Neves. If Neves moves, it will be to Arsenal.

Brozovic is a possibility, but this depends on how other transfers go.

Brighton just bought a CDM from Salzburg, perhaps they are preparing to cash in on Bissouma.

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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jul 8 2021, 03:55 PM)
I doubt Man Utd has a lot of money to spend. First Sancho might cost 72.6m but it is split into 5 years installment. Mean they paid about 15m for him now.

If Man Utd has 100m to spend this summer transfer, minus 15m still have 85m. If Varane cost 50m, then left with 35m.

And no way Man Utd can buy Rice with 35m. So they target cheaper DM like Camavinga, Brozovic, Neves...
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 8 2021, 07:14 PM)
Camavinga is not a specialist CDM. In fact, Camavinga is closer to an "8" like Pogba. But he has interesting tackling stats, but low interception stats. Which means he prefers to get stuck in rather than waiting for an opportunity via positioning. But keep in mind, Camavinga is only 18. He can be whatever type of midfielder he wants to be. So let's not pigeonhole him right now. I've seen him play for Rennes on a few occasions, and he does have one quality that will help us. He is quite press resistant, and is quite good at bringing the ball out of defence.

Rice, does not look like anything will happen this summer. West Ham are pretty confidenfrom Salzburgt of keeping him.

Neves, we do not seem to have an interest in Neves. If Neves moves, it will be to Arsenal.

Brozovic is a possibility, but this depends on how other transfers go.

Brighton just bought a CDM from Salzburg, perhaps they are preparing to cash in on Bissouma.
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Camavinga strength is more on passing and dribbling the ball forward, he is not the typical CDM like Kante for me, more like a raw version of Modric.
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Contact has been made by PSG with Pogba according to French sources. I think personal terms will not be an issue here, it all depends on Manchester United's demands.

On the players we intended to sell to raise funds, United have not done a single sale. No transfer news on outgoing transfers.

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UK has granted 100% capacity for all the stadium, it will definitely boost up the ticket sales income.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 8 2021, 11:48 PM)
Contact has been made by PSG with Pogba according to French sources. I think personal terms will not be an issue here, it all depends on Manchester United's demands.

On the players we intended to sell to raise funds, United have not done a single sale. No transfer news on outgoing transfers.
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Trade Herrera back? icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

If Pogba can sell for 50mil, just do it. I don't want to give Pogba the highest wages in Man Utd dressing room.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 9 2021, 01:30 PM)
Trade Herrera back?  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

If Pogba can sell for 50mil, just do it. I don't want to give Pogba the highest wages in Man Utd dressing room.
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Pogba 50mil? Rugi banyak...
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jul 9 2021, 02:50 PM)
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Pogba leaving will allow Man Utd to focus on football rather than all sort of off-field problems from him. Just sell him.
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Pogba 50mil? Rugi banyak...
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On Camavinga and Pogba, PSG is a definite factor in each. With the signings PSG has already made, PSG may not move for Camavinga if they get Pogba. Real also have an interest but raising funds may be an issue for them. Which is why I think United should quickly move to wrap up the Camavinga transfer first while PSG is talking to Pogba and we are talking to Varane.

The Varane deal means we could potentially give up to 50M to Real Madrid, and it would be crazy to then see Real use those funds to get Camavinga instead.

News surrounding the Camavinga transfer states that United may put in an official bid in the next few days.

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On Camavinga and Pogba, PSG is a definite factor in each. With the signings PSG has already made, PSG may not move for Camavinga if they get Pogba. Real also have an interest but raising funds may be an issue for them. Which is why I think United should quickly move to wrap up the Camavinga transfer first while PSG is talking to Pogba and we are talking to Varane.

The Varane deal means we could potentially give up to 50M to Real Madrid, and it would be crazy to then see Real use those funds to get Camavinga instead.

News surrounding the Camavinga transfer states that United may put in an official bid in the next few days.
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I am hoping that RM did not give us hard time during the deal. They may still bitter when De Gea's transfer fell through  biggrin.gif
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jual je la pogba.. 50mil okla

pogba already lost place at mid.. if camavinga coming got cover, vdb

left got rashford,martial.. greenwood, james also can play there
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Birmingham City have made their sixth summer signing by bringing in Manchester United's young Dutch winger Tahith Chong on a season-long loan.

The Netherlands Under-21 international has made 16 first-team appearances for United since making his debut against Reading in an FA Cup third round tie in January 2019.

He was twice sent out on loan last season to clubs in mainland Europe.

He played 13 Bundesliga games at Werder Bremen before joining Club Brugge.

He then made 10 appearances in helping Brugge win the Belgian First Division.

Chong will remain with United for the beginning of pre-season before joining up with Blues in time for the start of the new Championship season against Sheffield United at Bramall Lane on Saturday 7 August.

He makes the same move successfully enjoyed by Jesse Lingard, who spent three months at St Andrew's in 2013, starting with a stunning four goals on his debut, against Sheffield Wednesday.


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Ini tahith last time diva contract like jogba. Now really tahi.
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lol rashford and sancho failed. sure kena flame in socmed.
rashford too much antic...
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lol rashford and sancho failed. sure kena flame in socmed.
rashford too much antic...
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just worried impact their mental for our new season.
and shaw was limping abit towards the end of the game fk
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Southgate did an Ole.. bottled it when it matter most

Chose to sit back and wait for counter with 1-0 lead.. while playing at home, with better players on and off the pitch
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Sadly England lost
They should attack not defend
Grealish should have played earlier or much more
Three dark skin players missed..it may lead to racism attack in social media
And 2 of them are United players
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jul 12 2021, 07:44 AM)
2 man utd player missed ohmy.gif
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One missed, one score. 3rd one has not signed. Not counted.
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One missed, one score. 3rd one has not signed. Not counted.
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The price for Jadon can still be negotiate?
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Personal terms already agreed. Fee has already been agreed. Subject to medical.

After today, psychological test sure fail tongue.gif

pity saka, see his face when taking penalty, no keeper would be afraid of that. Doesn't deserve that, captain should always be 4th of 5th. The 2 leaders take the first 2 kicks, leave the young ones to shoulder the unwanted responsibility.
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jul 12 2021, 10:45 AM)
Personal terms already agreed. Fee has already been agreed. Subject to medical.

After today, psychological test sure fail  tongue.gif

pity saka, see his face when taking penalty, no keeper would be afraid of that. Doesn't deserve that, captain should always be 4th of 5th. The 2 leaders take the first 2 kicks, leave the young ones to shoulder the unwanted responsibility.
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Not saka or leaders fault, its really southgate tactic to blame. Dont understand why he choose to def until penalty kick.
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QUOTE(ashportal @ Jul 12 2021, 10:54 AM)
Not saka or leaders fault, its really southgate tactic to blame. Dont understand why he choose to def until penalty kick.
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And FYI, both ole and southgate were in the same pro license class tongue.gif
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that was before the penalties, im speaking purely just in terms of the penalties.

And FYI, both ole and southgate were in the same pro license class  tongue.gif
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for some reason, it was the same feeling like united final vs villareal
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laugh.gif  laugh.gif

for some reason, it was the same feeling like united final vs villareal
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Not saka or leaders fault, its really southgate tactic to blame. Dont understand why he choose to def until penalty kick.
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It's not like he is facing 2009 Barcelona team that they have to play defensively.
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England was playing at home, yet they started with 3 cb, 2wb, and 2 dm. Macam ole only lol
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QUOTE(ashportal @ Jul 12 2021, 10:54 AM)
Not saka or leaders fault, its really southgate tactic to blame. Dont understand why he choose to def until penalty kick.
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When u have Rashford, Sancho, Grealish, Foden on the bench, but the manager insist to play defensive and not utilize substitute quota. And the manager think Saka is better than Foden or Sancho laugh.gif
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Not saka or leaders fault, its really southgate tactic to blame. Dont understand why he choose to def until penalty kick.
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Agreed with you, but strange enough not one paper blame southgate on this. Only praise the England team😅. Im in the same opinion should have play sancho, rashford, grealish and foden in the starting. England lost without fielding the best players..
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Aduuh lost. Shaw scored.
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When u have Rashford, Sancho, Grealish, Foden on the bench, but the manager insist to play defensive and not utilize substitute quota. And the manager think Saka is better than Foden or Sancho laugh.gif
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Agreed with you. In my opinion i think Saka physical built is so small and to play against well defend italian team is not good. Should field experience and bigger built player.. Not to say Italian cb is very old.. Should use pace against them..
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jul 12 2021, 12:55 PM)
Agreed with you. In my opinion i think Saka physical built is so small and to play against well defend italian team is not good. Should field experience and bigger built player.. Not to say Italian cb is very old.. Should use pace against them..
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the manager practice favouritism instead of using strategy, Saka is useless when he sub in, he just has the pace but cannot do anything. Foden has proven well in Man City and his dribbling skill is on par with Sterling, but the manager didn't give him chance at all.
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English papers are trying to pacify their supporters.
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Folks, here is what you say if people start giving you grief about United players missing.

Luke Shaw scored. If not England would have lost.
Maguire scored.
Rashford missed.
Sancho missed. Sancho still hasn't done his medical, but we at United stand by our players new and old.

So 2 out of 4.
How many players from other clubs stood up for a penalty? Apart from Spurs and Arsenal, the others should shut up.

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jul 12 2021, 12:53 PM)
Agreed with you, but strange enough not one paper blame southgate on this. Only praise the England team😅. Im in the same opinion should have play sancho, rashford, grealish and foden in the starting. England lost without fielding the best players..
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He just brought in rash and sancho 2 minits before the AET end whistle. Making them scapegoat, like my plan ruined, now i want u both to rescue me laugh.gif laugh.gif
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I'm not going to blame the players. It is the manager's fault for not trying to end the game sooner. Drag until penalty it becomes 50-50. With the tall Donnaruma, and his skill, it becomes 30-70. What a keeper Donnaruma. He makes the goal look small.
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Donnaruma damn good.. Raiola really know how to pick em lol
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Hahaha. Padan muka. What a good way to lose. I was supporting England until that sterling dive. Final he also try dive for free kick. Really facepalm him.

Really unbelievable script for rash and sancho to miss. Maguire penalty wow. It's strange to put 18 year old on the 5th. I guess how it pans out to 5th make the pressure too much to bear.

Donaruma wow. Dun like him cause mino players but really top class. Wonder why he no celebrate after saka save. Pickford also a hero. Saving jorginho penalty. One of the toughest save.

And I still cant believe we score 10 penalties and fail to win Europa. All teams here on avg score 3-4. Keepers are making look easy.

Chileni bonuci like our rio vidic only. Strong and full of leadership. I thought of this pairing, Donaruma have good defensive record. But he proves valuable with his penalty saves. Shaw performance can rank along these players
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 12 2021, 02:28 PM)
Hahaha. Padan muka. What a good way to lose. I was supporting England until that sterling dive. Final he also try dive for free kick. Really facepalm him.

Really unbelievable script for rash and sancho to miss. Maguire penalty wow. It's strange to put 18 year old on the 5th. I guess how it pans out to 5th make the pressure too much to bear.

Donaruma wow. Dun like him cause mino players but really top class. Wonder why he no celebrate after saka save. Pickford also a hero. Saving jorginho penalty. One of the toughest save.

And I still cant believe we score 10 penalties and fail to win Europa. All teams here on avg score 3-4. Keepers are making look easy.

Chileni bonuci like our rio vidic only. Strong and full of leadership. I thought of this pairing, Donaruma have good defensive record. But he proves valuable with his penalty saves. Shaw performance can rank along these players
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QUOTE(ashportal @ Jul 12 2021, 10:54 AM)
Not saka or leaders fault, its really southgate tactic to blame. Dont understand why he choose to def until penalty kick.
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southgate is hyped english manager imo... the squad might not be sven goran era with gerrard scholes lampard ferdinand campbell. but the squad already not bad with the talent he has. last wc, all the way before the semi damn lucky, didnt really face the traditional big teams up to semi.. also kelong.

this euro, most of the teams kelong already. nothing much to show except the win vs germany. and before final hyped like they confirm win although its vs mancini's italy... i guess he learnt his lesson not getting lingod in the team. laugh.gif


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You can't replicate walking up huge final in front of your supporters with a huge goalkeeper in front of you. As Mike Tyson once said "everyone's got a plan until they're punched in the face". You're facing a giant of a goalkeeper. Make the keeper save it, hit the target but you can't replicate this, Gary. For all their plans it didn't work.'

Kinda agree with Keane. Training penalty statistic count little i guess.
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Tactical more conservative than Mourinho; substitutions slower than Solksjaer, 2 major tournaments England got nice draw but they wasted twice.

2018 World Cup England faced Panama, Tunisia, Sweden, Columbia and semi lost to Croatia are same as yesterday, whole match only 2 shot on targets then 3rd and 4th placing lose to Belgium.

2020 Euro, last 16 beat Germany in style and when everyone thought they changed but in the final, thing are repeated again, 120 minutes only 2 shot of targets.

This sum up Southgate’s results in 2 major tournaments. Will FA renew this contract for WC 2022? Time will tell

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Veratti is good, calm, commanding and have some good long passes in him too
Chiesa and Insigne what a player they are.. technically solid, press resistant, good ball retention

Rice really that good like his massive price tag? not for me.. just a lil bit better than McT
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 12 2021, 02:55 PM)
Veratti is good, calm, commanding and have some good long passes in him too
Chiesa and Insigne what a player they are.. technically solid, press resistant, good ball retention

Rice really that good like his massive price tag? not for me.. just a lil bit better than McT
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Rice is totally overated. West Ham using MU to hike up the price. For MU to move forward, I believe they need to buy youth and experienced players with leadership quality to move them forward. Just like what Bryan Robson and Roy Keane did. Currently the closes to them both is Bruno and it is still not enough for MU to be a real contender for coming season.

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And serious, Saka? What value does Saka bring to the team again? Sure, all talks are about how young he is, so we've used him in several games before, but is he the only player we have in that position for final?

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Rice is totally overated. West Ham using MU to hike up the price. For MU to move forward, I believe they need to buy youth and experienced players with leadership quality to move them forward. Just like what Bryan Robson and Roy Keane did. Currently the closes to them both is Bruno and it is still not enough for MU to be a real contender for coming season.
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.. which is why MU still retains Mata and Lee Grant to be role-model on and off the field. I think it got to do with how these professionals are doing the training (and during the match if being asked), taking care of their body, food consumption, social life, and et cetera.

And, oh, I did not see Declan Rice that much, but if it just judging on yesterday's match alone, I am not impressed sweat.gif
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media overhype english players too much.. now im worried that Sancho is for real that good or just another overhyped english player hmm.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 12 2021, 02:47 PM)
Tactical more conservative than Mourinho; substitutions slower than Solksjaer, 2 major tournaments England got nice draw but they wasted twice.

2018 World Cup England faced Panama, Tunisia, Sweden, Columbia and semi lost to Croatia are same as yesterday, whole match only 2 shot on targets then 3rd and 4th placing lose to Belgium.

2020 Euro, last 16 beat Germany in style and when everyone thought they changed but in the final, thing are repeated again, 120 minutes only 2 shot of targets.

This sum up Southgate’s results in 2 major tournaments. Will FA renew this contract for WC 2022? Time will tell
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Southgate mistake is didn't call up Lingardinho laugh.gif

Joke aside, England has a better bench, Sterling playing for full 120mins last match 3-4 days ago, should have sub in Rashford while he and Shaw has some understanding, Sancho can play middle, left and right.
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QUOTE(matty @ Jul 12 2021, 03:01 PM)
Rice is totally overated. West Ham using MU to hike up the price. For MU to move forward, I believe they need to buy youth and experienced players with leadership quality to move them forward. Just like what Bryan Robson and Roy Keane did. Currently the closes to them both is Bruno and it is still not enough for MU to be a real contender for coming season.
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jul 12 2021, 03:44 PM)
.. which is why MU still retains Mata and Lee Grant to be role-model on and off the field. I think it got to do with how these professionals are doing the training (and during the match if being asked), taking care of their body, food consumption, social life, and et cetera. 

And, oh, I did not see Declan Rice that much, but if it just judging on yesterday's match alone, I am not impressed  sweat.gif
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I have to say Rice playstyle is similar like McTom, why do we need to sign him? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 12 2021, 05:08 PM)
Southgate mistake is didn't call up Lingardinho laugh.gif

Joke aside, England has a better bench, Sterling playing for full 120mins last match 3-4 days ago, should have sub in Rashford while he and Shaw has some understanding, Sancho can play middle, left and right.
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yup sterling not effective this time should be sub out.. clearly it seem he and kane is southgate fav. put saka there too. mount also stay so long when not doing much. rashford should atleast play in ET

southgate got no plan B.. just let them play. cant believe saka is final taker so much pressure put to youngster
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media overhype english players too much.. now im worried that Sancho is for real that good or just another overhyped english player  hmm.gif
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not to southgate laugh.gif

sancho stat for dortmund very good and he still only 21.. no guarantee he will be as good for united but he deserve the hyped for his performance at dortmund.
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Shaw's goal...a Roberto Carlos goal and mourinho criticize him again..rice just average this euro like sum1 pointed out earlier...but he played well for west ham just too expensive
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i suspect the transfer saga caused Sancho to either drop focus or Southgate to lose confidence in him. For better or worse its end up like this. One can only blame Southgate for his substitutions and for poorly executed penalty kick off.

They weren't too far off as a team. Except I don't really give a rats ass how well they perform. They have a lot of famous players and none of them played that well. Harry Kane was muted like a midfielder and I can't really say their midfielder holds a candle to Italy's.

Shaw and Sterling are perhaps the standouts.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 12 2021, 02:28 PM)
Hahaha. Padan muka. What a good way to lose. I was supporting England until that sterling dive. Final he also try dive for free kick. Really facepalm him.

Really unbelievable script for rash and sancho to miss. Maguire penalty wow. It's strange to put 18 year old on the 5th. I guess how it pans out to 5th make the pressure too much to bear.

Donaruma wow. Dun like him cause mino players but really top class. Wonder why he no celebrate after saka save. Pickford also a hero. Saving jorginho penalty. One of the toughest save.

And I still cant believe we score 10 penalties and fail to win Europa. All teams here on avg score 3-4. Keepers are making look easy.

Chileni bonuci like our rio vidic only. Strong and full of leadership. I thought of this pairing, Donaruma have good defensive record. But he proves valuable with his penalty saves. Shaw performance can rank along these players
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Donaruma didn't celebrate until VAR rules his save is legit.

Don't rate this English team at all with Southgate in charge, predicted they only make quarter but their path to final somewhat too easy. If Southgate continues till WC22 then it's never coming home.

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 12 2021, 09:29 PM)
Donaruma didn't celebrate until VAR rules his save is legit.

Don't rate this English team at all with Southgate in charge, predicted they only make quarter but their path to final somewhat too easy. If Southgate continues till WC22 then it's never coming home.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Jul 12 2021, 07:18 PM)
yup sterling not effective this time should be sub out.. clearly it seem he and kane is southgate fav. put saka there too. mount also stay so long when not doing much. rashford should atleast play in ET

southgate got no plan B.. just let them play. cant believe saka is final taker so much pressure put to youngster
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Kane should be the no.5 taker because that is the most crucial one

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i suspect the transfer saga caused Sancho to either drop focus or Southgate to lose confidence in him. For better or worse its end up like this. One can only blame Southgate for his substitutions and for poorly executed penalty kick off.

They weren't too far off as a team. Except I don't really give a rats ass how well they perform. They have a lot of famous players and none of them played that well. Harry Kane was muted like a midfielder and I can't really say their midfielder holds a candle to Italy's.

Shaw and Sterling are perhaps the standouts.
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last time beckham got booed every away ground after the 1998 world cup incident ..im sure sancho and rashford also will kena.. that spured beckham to win the treble with us..let's see what happens nx season.. hehe
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It irks me when player do that kind of antics like rashford did when taking penalties. Sancho and saka spot kick is ok actually. Both hit the target but keeper made a good save. Rashford's on the other hand...
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jul 13 2021, 11:11 AM)
It irks me when player do that kind of antics like rashford did when taking penalties. Sancho and saka spot kick is ok actually. Both hit the target but keeper made a good save. Rashford's on the other hand...
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I think he just nervous and indecisive when taking the penalty... not showboating or anything.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jul 13 2021, 11:11 AM)
It irks me when player do that kind of antics like rashford did when taking penalties. Sancho and saka spot kick is ok actually. Both hit the target but keeper made a good save. Rashford's on the other hand...
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He want to wait keeper move. But tak ada move, then start jogging. Also no move. I think Rasford hit is good. Unlucky. Need far and wide. Sancho and saka both penalty not wide enough. Guess correct then gg. Dunno why they don't blast like maguire. Risky but sure unsaveable
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 12 2021, 10:05 PM)
Kane should be the no.5 taker because that is the most crucial one
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what if england miss kick 1 and kick 3 and kick 4 laugh.gif laugh.gif
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No idea why they stick with Southgate. He is not gonna bring England anywhere.
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I will stick with him too. Before this sven and capello. Both jokers and early ko. At least under Southgate they are challenging
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Appointment of Eric Ramsay seem to solve our dead ball and 1v1 issue, that's good news for us
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 13 2021, 02:01 PM)
Appointment of Eric Ramsay seem to solve our dead ball and 1v1 issue, that's good news for us
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QUOTE(ashportal @ Jul 12 2021, 01:30 PM)
He just brought in rash and sancho 2 minits before the AET end whistle. Making them scapegoat, like my plan ruined, now i want u both to rescue me  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Yeah now the whole white English hate them.. England lost because of their manager not the players
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 12 2021, 12:58 PM)
the manager practice favouritism instead of using strategy, Saka is useless when he sub in, he just has the pace but cannot do anything. Foden has proven well in Man City and his dribbling skill is on par with Sterling, but the manager didn't give him chance at all.
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Yeah, the starting lineup is a joke and the sub also a joke..
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 13 2021, 02:01 PM)
Appointment of Eric Ramsay seem to solve our dead ball and 1v1 issue, that's good news for us
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hopefully.. but its too early to tell though.. could be the usual nepotism hiring as well, the guy is a good friend of McKenna

City's set-piece coach joined Arsenal.. wonder who will they replace him with
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ealise-won.html

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And here we go......
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I don't know if any of you are keeping tabs on what is happening at Barcelona.
The financial collapse there is immense. They can't even enter the new season right now because of their wage bill being bloated above legal limits.

If you have money to spend, that's a shopping mall right now. Probably why Wijnaldum went to PSG instead of Barca.
Bu then again, we don't play the type of one touch football that Barca plays, in the mould of the Dutch total football. I would love to raid them for Frankie De Jong and Pedri, but I don't think it fits our current footballing ethos at the club.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 13 2021, 10:20 PM)
I don't know if any of you are keeping tabs on what is happening at Barcelona.
The financial collapse there is immense. They can't even enter the new season right now because of their wage bill being bloated above legal limits.

If you have money to spend, that's a shopping mall right now. Probably why Wijnaldum went to PSG instead of Barca.
Bu then again, we don't play the type of one touch football that Barca plays, in the mould of the Dutch total football. I would love to raid them for Frankie De Jong and Pedri, but I don't think it fits our current footballing ethos at the club.
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They can release Messi and free up most of the wages bill laugh.gif


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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jul 13 2021, 11:11 AM)
It irks me when player do that kind of antics like rashford did when taking penalties. Sancho and saka spot kick is ok actually. Both hit the target but keeper made a good save. Rashford's on the other hand...
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i think rashford kick is a good ones.. he wait for keeper to dive and it is wide unlucky bit too wide hit the post

sancho and saka kick close wt GK and savable

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sancho stats.. no way this consider overhyped. sancho rank 10th past 3 season

wonder what number he will get. 22 or 25 likely

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/116...eir-no-1-target

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They can release Messi and free up most of the wages bill laugh.gif
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They already have. Messi's contract has expired on 1st July and their wage bill is still above the limit.
Messi's contract is so insane that even if he takes an 80% paycut, he would still be among the highest paid at the club.

Right now Barca needs to clear more off the wage bill just to offer Messi that new contract.
Let's see if Messi loves Barca enough to say no to the money and stick with the club that made him.
If Messi loves money more, it'll be either PSG or City.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jul 13 2021, 11:26 AM)
I think he just nervous and indecisive when taking the penalty...
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Nervous and especially indecisive.
For a seasoned striker that is not acceptable.

If saka maybe we will understand.
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jul 13 2021, 06:57 PM)
Yeah now the whole white English hate them.. England lost because of their manager not the players
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It was bad decision from the management.

I was imagining.
If... Yes if.
If rashford and sacho scored, that means 4 MU players scored in the finals. Wow.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 14 2021, 12:35 AM)
They already have. Messi's contract has expired on 1st July and their wage bill is still above the limit.
Messi's contract is so insane that even if he takes an 80% paycut, he would still be among the highest paid at the club.

Right now Barca needs to clear more off the wage bill just to offer Messi that new contract.
Let's see if Messi loves Barca enough to say no to the money and stick with the club that made him.
If Messi loves money more, it'll be either PSG or City.
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Can offer him Ambassador role for a period like 10 years, but then Messi still want to get one of the highest paid footballer in the world
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 14 2021, 11:07 AM)
Yes
It was bad decision from the management.

I was imagining.
If... Yes if. 
If rashford and sacho scored, that means 4 MU players scored in the finals.  Wow.
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never expected england to win.. all hype.. just hope the fans wont bring it to epl and affects the players.. but then again we have beckham and rooney ronaldo incident in the past..
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 14 2021, 01:35 PM)
never expected england to win.. all hype.. just hope the fans wont bring it to epl and affects the players.. but then again we have beckham and rooney ronaldo incident in the past..
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I'm sure they will

Racism attack on them already started


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Manchester United striker Marcus Rashford may not play until the end of October after deciding to have surgery on a shoulder injury.

Rashford, 23, had a scan on Tuesday after being hampered by the problem in the latter half of the 2020-21 season.

It was decided the damage was so severe that rest alone would not repair it and United hoped the England striker could have the operation immediately.

However, the surgeon is not available until the end of July.

It is anticipated Rashford will be out for 12 weeks, which will be a blow to United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's plans for the start of the new campaign.


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Harry Maguire's father Alan suffered two suspected broken ribs before England's Euro 2020 final defeat by Italy, says the England defender.

Fans fought with stewards and police as they attempted to break through gates for Sunday's game at Wembley.

Maguire's father, 56, was "struggling to breathe" after being trampled on.

"My dad was in the stampede," Maguire told the Sun. "It was not a nice experience - it shook him up. He said he was scared."

The Manchester United captain, who has two daughters, added: "I don't want anyone to experience that at a football match.

"He was fortunate as every game he has been to he has had my nephew or one of my kids on his shoulders. I am pleased my kids didn't go to the game."

The 28-year-old's father and agent Kenneth Shepherd were caught up in the incident as they made their way to the seating area reserved for players' families.

Medical attention was not sought at the time, Maguire saying of his father: "He was struggling with his breathing afterwards because of his ribs, but he's not one to make a big fuss."


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57818943

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Finally, a proper operations for Rashford. Hope he will recover fully this time and perform better next season.
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Huah messi willing 50% wage cut. Loyal ni
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Huah messi willing 50% wage cut. Loyal ni
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It's a 5 years contract. Spreading the payment to 2026. Means he could leave after 2 years and Barcelona still have to pay him. He ain't taking pay cut, just helping the club
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It's a 5 years contract. Spreading the payment to 2026. Means he could leave after 2 years and Barcelona still have to pay him. He ain't taking pay cut, just helping the club
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they stil can register messi yet... messi after -50% still highest in the club.. and they need to cut their expenses by offloading players (not including those they are going to register as new players).. see what magic they can pull this time
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 14 2021, 11:09 PM)
Huah messi willing 50% wage cut. Loyal ni
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There has been an acceptance at Real Madrid that Varane will not be signing a new contract and they will not stand in his way if an acceptable offer is tabled, according to a reliable source in Spain.

Real Madrid is waiting for an official bid, which Manchester United is expected to issue in the next few days. Madrid is expecting 50M pounds while United are gearing towards 40M pounds. Looks like it is happening.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 15 2021, 08:32 PM)
There has been an acceptance at Real Madrid that Varane will not be signing a new contract and they will not stand in his way if an acceptable offer is tabled, according to a reliable source in Spain.

Real Madrid is waiting for an official bid, which Manchester United is expected to issue in the next few days. Madrid is expecting 50M pounds while United are gearing towards 40M pounds. Looks like it is happening.
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Knowing the idiots - end up paying 60
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So Rashy confirm going for the operation on his shoulder?

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Varane and neves... and lingard out to ply his own game... read jones not seen at carrington
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 15 2021, 11:12 PM)
So Rashy confirm going for the operation on his shoulder?
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Confirm, but now he is holidaying with Sancho, expecting he will be out for 2-3 months at least
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looks like all the good numbers are taken already.. left 16?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 16 2021, 09:13 AM)
Confirm, but now he is holidaying with Sancho, expecting he will be out for 2-3 months at least
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thanks, but to me it makes no sense. Holiday first then only operation. Why cannot do the operation, recover and relax? MUFC seems last on his list of priorities.

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