D'Clover Residences Phase 5 by EXISM

Set against the backdrop of lush jungles, D’Clover Residences is a sanctuary at the intersection of contemporary living and stunning wilderness. The beauty of the hills beyond the development birthed the idea of a space where nature is the designer and verdant greenery flows from the surroundings into the living room.

4B2B 1210-1440sqft starting at RM8XX,XXX
1 Block
Total Unit 593units
Car Park 2-3
Completion 2025
Leasehold









This post has been edited by AFZAARTING: May 20 2021, 11:40 PM

More fascinating is the 10 acres central park to be developed by Exsim next to D'Clover & D'Vervain. Awesome.

This post has been edited by AFZAARTING: May 20 2021, 03:35 PM

5900 units in these phases already! WOW
heard more coming up in coming phases?

This post has been edited by Windzneom: May 20 2021, 06:14 PM

5 more phases, you know right?

I've been living in Damansara Perdana for past 12years.
Current density? Overall traffic in this area is still in my comfortable level.
A 5-10 minute jam is normal during high hours. I have never experience long jam in this area.
Current business operate in Damansara Perdana business center still in my opinion low occupancy. And the traffic is good actually with new road done past years.

Exsim new township will have separate new road/entrance from existing flow, once the completion of complete Empire Damansara, plus with new commercial building,malls,hotel, and its own mosque & 10 acre park, this new township will have almost all amenities needed surround (walking distance).

Phase 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,14 i guess residential (70%)
Phase 9,10,11,12,13 i guess commercial (30%)

Of course all the units will cater needs for each segment of buyers and also Tenants . Damansara Perdana is used to be full of Korean, Arab, other expats prior C19 and it will back to normal in couple of years to come.

Density is not an issue i guess as long Developer manage to construct all planned new road & connections to the township.

High density with various of units type, support with commercial building & good road infrastructure is ok what..?

Mont Kiara, Bangsar South, KL City is high density area. Where not? haha

This post has been edited by AFZAARTING: May 20 2021, 08:42 PM

It is not just about amenities and infrastructure development

It is about developer flooding the market with thousands and thousands of units within short period with minimal differentiation.

If you are looking for own stay it should be OK but prepare to ride long term to see any meaningful capital gain.

Good luck to investors.

Connectivity & Accessibility Flythrough Video by EXISM

https://youtu.be/1tvm9g7oLrw

https://youtu.be/Wv2ALBvoAbA

This post has been edited by AFZAARTING: May 20 2021, 08:55 PM

Good luck to wannabe millionaire investors... And congratulation to property guru that can fish so many wannabes...

Most new Malls in PJ is consider lively prior C19.
Empire Damansara new mall locate only 1-2km from One Utama, The Curve, Tropicana Malls, which target to complete by 2022, sure will have it's own attraction, European design & varieties for shop, & national ice skating, etc yes need time to gain high traffic but it will. Malaysian love shopping..

I am pretty sure Developer will complete the development of Empire Damansara. Its already in its 80% complete. Only dumb companies its is, if still not able to deliver at this stage and EXISM is sure not one.

Developer is in their way to go for Public Listed.
This is the first ever township by them. They need to deliver it. They need to make it success.
Knowing their past project success, i am sure this one is their next big purpose of life mission.

Correct me if i am wrong, could anyone complain in Desa Park City and Mont Kiara that there is too many units there ?

Yaya, haha worst
total 20 block office tower included a mall/commercial, 11 block residential tower according to original master plan.

I do agreed that Developer is in their way to go for Public Listed.
and since This is the first ever township by them, they need to make it success.

But Too much residential with similar size will create a big chaos in "investor" market when they want to rent it out.
How many years to complete their whole township and how long the "investor" need to hold and fighting the price war?
a mall can't really save the township with only the support from residents itself, they need offices workers as well to support the mall.
and office worker can attract in moving population from other place.
if the mall can't work out, it will only caused the residential unit price or rental dropped as well, because too much competition and no much amenities.

ofcourse every where is high dense now, but my POV is that, this whole township will be really massive with units la.

1. Did DPC and Mont Kiara launch 6k units simultaneously within a span of 2-3 years ?

2. Ask yourself then why this developer is soo eager to launch many projects/units within such a short span of time?

3. Stop doing comparisons to other master plans. Another popular comparison is Bangsar South. This place ain’t it.

It's not an unusual thing for people to use places like desa park and MK. But one must understand that those development came up in their own unique way. The economic and social environment was unique at their time allowing them to capitalise on it. It's the same as saying, google is so successful so I'm gonna dump money into another platform claiming that it's going to be the next google and try to replicate their success. That's probably not very realistic.

I'm not saying that this project is going to succeed or fail. I'm just saying that you need to consider a lot of factors before making that assessment (oversupply? Price point? dev reputation, economic environment, demographic, etc).

one of the very important factor to determine the success of development is population...

just ask yourself---> who going to live there? what make the people to move there? how many years to make the development to mature? when is your investment can give you more than 50% of capital appreciation? can you accept your ROI is below 3% per annum for more than 5 years?

if doubt on one of the questions.... just hold your breath (money)... try to look other project...dun be rush ...cos current investment opportunity is much different compared 10 years back... due to inflation and low income for general Malaysians, not much good "kam tao" for investor for make handsome profits in short to medium term...

many tok guru can give very convincing statistic to make their project look like "is the opportunity cannot be missed in your life"....but how many investors can really make a good return under the guide of tok guru?

This post has been edited by bigman: May 22 2021, 02:43 PM

this total development cincincaicai above 12k units after all phase announce

you all keep saying it is very high density which is true
Unless you buy subsale in low density area
Otherwise the coming era where 50 storey condo with more than 2k units would be occupying the remaining scarcity land in KL Selangor

And watch people here keep repeatly saying it is ultra high density again and again

Is there new project with low price, low dense, no jam, and larger than 1000sf in PJ?

If buying for own stay, as long as u like it and can afford it then go ahead. If for investment then need to study. If u keep finding fault in each project u will never buy one. Forever waiting for that perfect project, too expensive la, too jam la, no mrt la, too high dense la, size too small la.

This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Sep 29 2021, 04:58 PM

Why has to be new? Who not go for subsale with all your other criteria's ( low dense, low traffic, low price, larger than 1000 sf) ? The added value being that you can actually see the physical condition without the need to pray for a developer to deliver?

Because we are discussing about new project. Besides, subsale u must have cash to pay 10% downpayment and all the other fees.

This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Sep 29 2021, 06:56 PM

What is the + point in your opinion for this project?

A property is a property lol. You want to shoehorn it to a specific house type, price range, size etc sure go ahead. But given the fact that the gestation period for this development is 4-5 years away why should people wait when they can grab something cheaper in the subsale market now?

This cashback logic + sheer volume of units is the exact reason why this development will have a hard time to appreciate. Nowadays every T, D or H can buy a house with zero downpayment while forgetting that the 10% ‘saved’ is actually owed to the bank + interest. But hey, so long as don’t need to pay downpayment all is good right?

My point is most first time home buyer don't have enough cash to afford paying the downpayment. Why else do u think they go for project instead of subsale then. Of course everyone knows, u save the interests if u pay more downpayment, some even took only 50% loan. But u tell me how many mid or late 20s first time home buyer can afford that 10% nowadays? Out of 10, how many?

Btw, my question is still remains. Apple to Apple comparison, new project vs new project.

In my personal opinion, location (just minutes away from 1U, ss2, etc..), price, size, and township. Cons is, density and jam.

The way I see it, being stuck in jam sucks, but it's not all bad, jam means there's population, and when there's population, the place will be developed. Look at kepong, used to be ulu place, now getting crowded and peak hours sure jam. But kepong now got mrt, what u want also can get in kepong.

What is ur + point? I'd like to know too

This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Sep 29 2021, 10:08 PM

My only + point is price and new.
Other than that all -
All the best to all buyers for ownstay or investment.
This will be an active project in one of the FB groups after VP. Let's revisit my statements in 3-4 years.

Why u say township is +? A lot of apartments and future commercial dreams is +? Why they never launchings the commercial yet. Why mainly resident so far? If so confident must launching both same time mah.

lol your question on downpayment is really a chicken and egg issue. Ask yourself first how come can buy without downpayment? Because developer markup right? So if a property is originally 500k, developer markup to 550k to cover 10%.

The issue now is most projects markup to 20-25%. So instead of getting a loan for 450k and saving up 50k for downpayment, the SNP price is now 625k (25% markup). So any new development will use the 625k as baseline which artificially drives up the property prices further. The next development will then sell at 625k and after markup is 780k. Each new cycle means new buyers have to fork out 20-25% more downpayment for new properties. And this markup cycle has happening since the 2009 DIBS era hence chicken and egg.

Of course for agents like yourself this doesn’t mean a thing since your only concern is closing a deal. But for people like myself who just want to buy a house without it being used as a tool for speculation, I guess I was born in the wrong time.

Btw I have pointed why your criteria is irrelevant, a property is a property regardless whether new or old lol.

Hi guys, anyone know the progress of this project? I heard till date still pending APDL approval, not sure why though.

Is this project good for own stay? Went to their sales gallery last weekend, my main concern is accessibility. Seeing that it is situated near the hill, going in and out from the township could be an issue right? I work in central KL and foresee myself to continue working there for years.

If you’re working in central KL, why not look for something near there?

Regardless of whether u buy this phase or any other projects in this area, traffic going to central KL from this surrounding area during peak hour is bad. Like, really bad.

I personally want to minimise my time in traffic.

If you use penchala link... no issues. RM3 per time. The jam is really after work hours is really bad though if the traffic light area going to Mutiara doesn't change.

Yeah I wasn't aware exactly where the location is and not very familiar with the area. But I recently went and drove to that area and only realized that there isn't a lot of road going into that area. Will take note on this, thanks for your input btw!

This post has been edited by fakerdemit: Dec 2 2021, 11:55 PM

No worries. I suggest that if you are free or on leave, try going around 6 or rainy weekdays. You'd get a feel of it. Even from penchala side. But you'll get a better feel from LDP.

Suitable for people who want big and cheap unit. If you can afford elsewhere, I would highly recommend elsewhere.

Yeah in terms of size and layout, it fits my requirement but I don't think its cheap, just my 2cent haha

Can I know which prop would you recommend?

This post has been edited by fakerdemit: Dec 3 2021, 04:00 PM

Any owner groups here? Already book & signing SPA soon

Yup also looking - booked n signed my SPA some time ago.

Me too, can pm me if there’s a group?

Updated : There is a Telegram Groupchat, do pm in the thread for admin to add you thanks

This post has been edited by kent1988: May 16 2022, 07:06 PM

Done pm too 😊

(For other owners please put your request in the thread itself, the admins will help you. Sorry I’m no longer in the groupchat)

Done pm too 😊

This post has been edited by kent1988: Apr 19 2022, 04:27 PM

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already PMed

Hi, I’m also one of the purchaser for block B. Any group I can join? Thanks.

Hi, is anyone can confirm this? Thanks.

Unofficial source, I heard it's still pending at land office due to some clarifications needed on the quarrying works. Hopefully can get it approved after CNY or end Q1. Signed my SPA since early Oct'21 and still waiting 😞

Do pm me if you are interested to share referral fees

May I know how many percent is the down payment and how much for legal fees etc? When d’clover will be ready? 2025?

hello, would like to know if you guys signed a blank SNP? the one without the APDL license number and HDA account?

from checking only Derica is approved

Signed a blank one. APDL end Q1 according to forummers

Can you pm me as well? I'm Block A

hi, mind to pm me the group too? Thanks.

Anyone got the stamped document already? I sjgned blank snp..
Do you get the carpark layout too?

PM me to share referral fees.

This post has been edited by juvaan: Mar 14 2022, 12:17 PM

Hi , wanna ask whether ADPL already approved?

I visited the showroom last week, SA told me not yet.

Pm me to share referral fees ya

Ok thanks...

Does anyone has any concern about the forest view? I've just booked 1 unit facing the hill but am not sure how sturdy is the rockfall & landslide protection at D'Clover.

Appreciate if any sifus can enlighten me.

Already pmed.

Done pmed.thanks

Hi all sorry I’ve cancelled the purchase due to personal reason and wouldn’t be able to add you to the Telegram group.

For those wanting to join, can put in your request in this thread itself. The admins will be able to help, thanks

d clover have group？pm thanks

d clover add me in group pls..011-3933-3833

Hi can pls add me in the group as well?

[quote=jasonkit112233,Apr 19 2022, 01:12 PM]
Pm thanks

Hello, Im also owner, please add me to the group.

Hello, Im tower A owner too .please add me to the group

Hello, Im also owner, please add me to the group.

Is it legal for developer to sell without APDL? And for bank to get us sign the loan + sign spa?? Any ways we can lodge the complaints

Hi, just signed for a unit in Block A. Mind pm me the group? Thanks

Pm me into group pls

Any1 can pm me into group? I signed a unit in Block B

Hi Can anyone add me to the owner group too? Thanks

Hi - I have booked and signed SPA recently. Can pm if there is a group that i can join.

ya same here looking for D'Clover Owner's group

Hello, please pm for group. signing SPA soon

Hi pls pm for group. signed SPA. thanks.

Hi,

Please pm for group. SPA signed

When you all sign the SPA did you found out that there are some important info not fill up, also some attachment is missing?

Its a known fact that ADPL not ready right, what else you trying to hint here?

The risk of signing this type of agreement

Hello neighbour, pm for owner group, SPA signed.

Can you explain more about it?

It is a blank SPA, the SPA that you have signed is actually invalid because the developer doesn't has the license to sell the property yet (no advertising permit/developer license(APDL) which is why you see the column for developer license number and the HDA account is left blank. The deposit that you have paid went into a stake holder account (another lawyer firm rather than the one that deal with your SPA agreement) Hence the risk is there.

This post has been edited by crypticCT: Jul 5 2022, 02:32 PM

Hi, if anyone is interested to buy the unit and share the referral fees. Kindly PM me. Thanks.

Hi, is there a telegram group? Can add me in?

Hi, any owner want to share referral fees?

Can pm me if new buyer is interested to share referral fees

Hi guys, i just booked a unit and now applying for loan. Did Exsim provide u guys with the detailed layout plan with all the measurements?
I requested that from my SA but she say Exsim doesn't provide that?? Shouldn't that is a part of the SPA?

Hi please pm for group, spa signed

What's the price?

For 1210 sqft, SPA price is around 8++k. After 8% rebate around 7++k.
Not many units left. I was in the waiting list when i made my booking.

More units available in D'teserra and D'terra

700k+ for 1210 sqft is comsider quite affordable these days

Wondering if anyone paying for progressive interest dy? Or will wait until get APDL 🤔

Edit: Got my answer, thanks!

This post has been edited by UHaooooo: Jul 27 2022, 07:05 PM

Hi PM owners group.
Bank loan approved. Signing SPA next week 😁

Hi please PM owners group.
Already signed SPA few months back, looking for an owners group too.

Signed SPA.
Would like to join owner group, please pm me thanks! 🙏🏻

This post has been edited by UHaooooo: Jul 30 2022, 06:04 PM

just to check if anyone got in a group yet? lol else we can start one ourselves.