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post May 18 2021, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ May 17 2021, 06:40 PM)
You underestimate how bad things can be behind the scenes, that number is doable. And don't be sneaky there and avoid my question... 500 counts, you can take it, or not? It's ok if you're scared to answer yourself, you don't have to.

And all you're harping on is the "naive" word lmao, whatever man. I'm done reasoning with you too. Truth is hard to swallow, continue your white Knighting acts wink.gif
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it's common to have such mindset with your age and experience, so to speak. Edgy, disgust about everything and think that you had enough pain in life to generalize things. Maybe one day you will grew out of it, and see things casually akin to not holding a fist with all your might nod.gif

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ May 17 2021, 06:40 PM)
You underestimate how bad things can be behind the scenes, that number is doable. And don't be sneaky there and avoid my question... 500 counts, you can take it, or not? It's ok if you're scared to answer yourself, you don't have to.

And all you're harping on is the "naive" word lmao, whatever man. I'm done reasoning with you too. Truth is hard to swallow, continue your white Knighting acts wink.gif
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Curious, what's the number that would start to irk you? I think 3 partners could be an acceptable number to you, 500 is of course ridiculous. So what about 8? 10? 20? 36? Would age factor into your equation? 20 partner at 20 years old is quite different from 20 partners at 40 years old.
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post May 19 2021, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 19 2021, 05:53 PM)
Curious, what's the number that would start to irk you? I think 3 partners could be an acceptable number to you, 500 is of course ridiculous. So what about 8? 10? 20? 36? Would age factor into your equation? 20 partner at 20 years old is quite different from 20 partners at 40 years old.
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It may seem like a simple question, but in fact it is a very difficult one, because the girl will never tell you the real number, especially if the number is high, at the end you simply won't know, and i don't intend to press on the issue, what done is done.

Instead of relying on the unreliable info given by her, I'd focus more on asking how long relationship lasts in between, and pay very careful attention to how she answer the first time, because when asked unprepared the answer is usually as close to the truth as possible, then gauge from there.

If she's giving the vibe of having long term partners in between, then I would be relieved. From there I'll further observe whether she's just another typical girl that will behave like shit after honeymoon phase, normally it is, just like clockwork. If it isn't, and she exceeded my expectations and continued to stick around and remain sweet, then I'll start to reconsider my choices with her.

Until then, my expectation is kept gravely low to avoid disappointment, and assume she'll leave one day.
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post May 19 2021, 10:48 PM

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Would you mind share more about the part on what it means by “just another typical girl that will behave like shit after honeymoon phase“ ?

And list out examples of behaviours?



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post May 19 2021, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Life_House @ May 19 2021, 10:48 PM)
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Would you mind share more about the part on what it means by “just another typical girl that will behave like shit after honeymoon phase“ ?

And list out examples of behaviours?
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For some reason, despite my best efforts of keeping the relationship alive, one day her interest will drop, you'll suddenly realise the texting gap gradually widen. Not that i mind, but the replies are colder too, and will start to give excuses to not hang out, worst case is when agreed to meet then cancel date just like that, with the nerve of not bothering to provide any reason for it, nor trying to reschedule.
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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ May 19 2021, 06:13 PM)
It may seem like a simple question, but in fact it is a very difficult one, because the girl will never tell you the real number, especially if the number is high, at the end you simply won't know, and i don't intend to press on the issue, what done is done.

Instead of relying on the unreliable info given by her, I'd focus more on asking how long relationship lasts in between, and pay very careful attention to how she answer the first time, because when asked unprepared the answer is usually as close to the truth as possible, then gauge from there.

If she's giving the vibe of having long term partners in between, then I would be relieved. From there I'll further observe whether she's just another typical girl that will behave like shit after honeymoon phase, normally it is, just like clockwork. If it isn't, and she exceeded my expectations and continued to stick around and remain sweet, then I'll start to reconsider my choices with her.

Until then, my expectation is kept gravely low to avoid disappointment, and assume she'll leave one day.
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So at the end of the day, number doesn't really matter but how she behaves in the present and towards the future?
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post May 20 2021, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 20 2021, 12:17 AM)
So at the end of the day, number doesn't really matter but how she behaves in the present and towards the future?
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I'd be lying if i say number doesn't matter, it still does, but only to a certain extent.

At the end if a girl exist whereby her number is high but her behaviour is near perfect and consistent for long time, there comes a point I need to make a decision whether I'll accept her for her behaviour, or reject her for her numbers. I have yet to encounter such a situation, so i can't really answer what i would do.

But generally, number correlates with behaviour, if she easily gives up when there's issue and also have a tendency of looking for better prospect or looking for new things to cure boredom, the number naturally will be high.

I doubt the number will be high if she's the long term type, unless so far ALL of her bf only wants to play and end up dumping her again and again, which is out of her control and against her long term plan.

At the end, endless possibility, endless factor, none can say what's right or wrong, only the one facing the real situation can make a choice by weighing pros and cons, that's all I can say
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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ May 19 2021, 11:36 PM)
For some reason, despite my best efforts of keeping the relationship alive, one day her interest will drop, you'll suddenly realise the texting gap gradually widen. Not that i mind, but the replies are colder too, and will start to give excuses to not hang out, worst case is when agreed to meet then cancel date just like that, with the nerve of not bothering to provide any reason for it, nor trying to reschedule.
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I cannot understand, why you will say this will be a typical girl attitude after honeymoon period.
If these are the girls that you encounter for your past relationships, obviously you are keep looking at the same pool and being attracted by same type of fishes.
Cant say a lots of decent attitude girls out there, but also cannot say most of the girls out there is what you so call "typical" type. You just haven't meet that one that is meant for you.
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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ May 20 2021, 12:48 AM)
I'd be lying if i say number doesn't matter, it still does, but only to a certain extent.

At the end if a girl exist whereby her number is high but her behaviour is near perfect and consistent for long time, there comes a point I need to make a decision whether I'll accept her for her behaviour, or reject her for her numbers. I have yet to encounter such a situation, so i can't really answer what i would do.

But generally, number correlates with behaviour, if she easily gives up when there's issue and also have a tendency of looking for better prospect or looking for new things to cure boredom, the number naturally will be high.

I doubt the number will be high if she's the long term type, unless so far ALL of her bf only wants to play and end up dumping her again and again, which is out of her control and against her long term plan.

At the end, endless possibility, endless factor, none can say what's right or wrong, only the one facing the real situation can make a choice by weighing pros and cons, that's all I can say
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There's no such thing as "long term type" and so-on, people have their phases. I know women who have a rebound phase after a relationship and all they want is some D for a while with no strings attached. Then after that find a long-term partner they are faithful with.

Correlation doesn't really tell you anything does it? Someone who slept with 20 men before you could be perfectly loyal and sweet, and someone who is a virgin could still cheat on you and have a gangbang behind your back.

There are questions you really should think about

1) Why would the number bother you
2) What are the real indicators you should be looking for in a partner

You're a smart guy, you'll figure it out
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post May 20 2021, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 20 2021, 12:57 AM)
There's no such thing as "long term type" and so-on, people have their phases. I know women who have a rebound phase after a relationship and all they want is some D for a while with no strings attached. Then after that find a long-term partner they are faithful with.

Correlation doesn't really tell you anything does it? Someone who slept with 20 men before you could be perfectly loyal and sweet, and someone who is a virgin could still cheat on you and have a gangbang behind your back.

There are questions you really should think about

1) Why would the number bother you
2) What are the real indicators you should be looking for in a partner

You're a smart guy, you'll figure it out
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Quality reply, your point about phases rings a bell in me, i encountered a few before but not enough to draw a conclusion that phase is a thing, my close friend's most recent breakup revealed to me his gf has a period where she look for casual hookup just to feel loved before sticking with him for few years.

And yes I'll figure out eventually when there exist a relationship that lasted and push me to think about the question you mentioned.
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post May 20 2021, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 20 2021, 12:57 AM)
There's no such thing as "long term type" and so-on, people have their phases. I know women who have a rebound phase after a relationship and all they want is some D for a while with no strings attached. Then after that find a long-term partner they are faithful with.

Correlation doesn't really tell you anything does it? Someone who slept with 20 men before you could be perfectly loyal and sweet, and someone who is a virgin could still cheat on you and have a gangbang behind your back.

There are questions you really should think about

1) Why would the number bother you
2) What are the real indicators you should be looking for in a partner

You're a smart guy, you'll figure it out
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These indicators change as you age, for both men and women. At 20's, its almost always about sex. You literally need to grow up before knowing that there are more to a relationship than just sex and money.




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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 20 2021, 12:57 AM)
1) Why would the number bother you
2) What are the real indicators you should be looking for in a partner

You're a smart guy, you'll figure it out
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In a hypothetical sense, any man wants a low notch or virgin kind of girls, but its not practical in a real sense. An alpha widow will use her seductiveness to attract a beta, only the players are able to sense the game from these females. These cold facts are often not exposed, because 'you gonna do what you do' to survive.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 20 2021, 10:44 AM)
there are more to a relationship than just sex and money.
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If you actually took away sexual access completely, ie porn, onlyfans, prostitutes and even isolate these males long enough, you will see massive killings on the streets.

Do not understimate the power of being rejected or lack of sexual ejaculations aka frustration from males.
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post May 20 2021, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ May 20 2021, 03:42 PM)
If you actually took away sexual access completely, ie porn, onlyfans, prostitutes and even isolate these males long enough, you will see massive killings on the streets.

Do not understimate the power of being rejected or lack of sexual ejaculations aka frustration from males.
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uh okay

so you are saying that males must have the right to have sexual access anytime anywhere?

abit unfair for the ladies no?

and dont misconstrue what i am saying.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 20 2021, 03:48 PM)
uh okay

so you are saying that males must have the right to have sexual access anytime anywhere?

abit unfair for the ladies no?

and dont misconstrue what i am saying.
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Im stating the power of testosterone if its not used right.
A woman can deny sex from males, but just because you deny it, doesnt mean you're entitled to my money or attentions freely.
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ May 20 2021, 03:49 PM)
Im stating the power of testosterone if its not used right.
A woman can deny sex from males, but just because you deny it, doesnt mean you're entitled to my money or attentions freely.
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so what does this power of testosterone will do if its not used right? killing in the streets?

so if a girl denies you sex, she is not entitled to your money and attention?
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 20 2021, 03:51 PM)
so what does this power of testosterone will do if its not used right? killing in the streets?

so if a girl denies you sex, she is not entitled to your money and attention?
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Human beings do not appreciate things they can get easily, or free, aka attention. Its same like a hot girl that's born excellent, why would she feel the need to improve her character?

These simps are ignorant till these days.
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ May 20 2021, 03:54 PM)
Human beings do not appreciate things they can get easily, or free, aka attention. Its same like a hot girl that's born excellent, why would she feel the need to improve her character?

These simps are ignorant till these days.
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sure, but what if the girl doesn't want your money and attention?

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