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TSAng3237
post May 11 2021, 05:37 PM, updated 5 months ago

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Hi sifus, any suggestion for upgrading bezza's handling + stability during highway ?

Prefer to not feel like shaking or sampan feeling when driving highway speed, and also not feel like car gonna flip then cornering

Lower car body? Change suspension ? Change tyre? Need some suggestion and advice
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post May 11 2021, 06:04 PM

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don't waste time and money. It is city car for urban lifestyle.
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post May 11 2021, 06:33 PM

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Last optioj before change car .

- wider tires
- sport spring
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post May 11 2021, 06:35 PM

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wider rims and sports suspension can help.. install roll cage if want better and safe handling.. other then this, better change car.
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later he will complaint fuel saving not correct smile.gif

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There are quite a lot of video and guidance published for picking the right car for you....
Bezza not been built for better handling ......
Saga the prefer one for this .....

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QUOTE(djdevan @ May 11 2021, 06:35 PM)
wider rims and sports suspension can help.. install roll cage if want better and safe handling.. other then this, better change car.
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You’re sure about roll cage?
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post May 11 2021, 06:53 PM

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post May 11 2021, 06:57 PM

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Bezza is design for city driving, not for long term highway speed handling dude.. If want better handling at highway speed better get other rides.. At least C or D segment..
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post May 11 2021, 07:04 PM

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Bezza only good for cucuk or cilok. Got one yesterday tried to be after I honk him got cutting queue. Unhappy, he tried to cilok back but lost to a 10 year old car with a value below 20K. Because of this, other drivers also honk him back for being an idiot. Some more ehailing driver. Maybe no business?
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I lost count how many people already asking how to improve handling in a Bezza and most people will say change car which is not entirely wrong to me laugh.gif
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post May 11 2021, 07:12 PM

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CHANGE CAR

Seriously. The chassis is originated from Axia, legally engineered into a Sedan. So it's handling is no different than Axia except for a longer ass.

Even I drive Axia have tried going up to 130 for a short distance and that also is not recommended. And with stock R14 tyres.

Because its light city car. Don't follow the foot steps of some YT video Bezza tapao Honda Civic.
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post May 11 2021, 07:18 PM

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Drive slower.
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post May 11 2021, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 05:37 PM)
Hi sifus, any suggestion for upgrading bezza's handling + stability during highway ?

Prefer to not feel like shaking or sampan feeling when driving highway speed, and also not feel like car gonna flip then cornering

Lower car body? Change suspension ? Change tyre? Need some suggestion and advice
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First, re-adjust existing Front camber angles towards more negative regime .....
and report back for further 'parts' replacement and $$$ if need be.

This post has been edited by zeng: May 11 2021, 07:39 PM
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post May 11 2021, 07:59 PM

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Change car. TS, you bought the wrong car πŸ˜‚
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post May 11 2021, 08:29 PM

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Try changing to bigger profile tyres dulu.
But can only mitigate the problem. Bezza memang floaty one.
They probably expect you 99% city drive with Bezza, which is why people suggest get Proton if constantly long distance travel.

This post has been edited by FrogBlob: May 11 2021, 08:30 PM
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post May 11 2021, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 05:37 PM)
Need some suggestion and advice
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topics

If you want to troll go to kopitiam

Otherwise perhaps consider referencing/ use existing threads:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5133717

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4645870

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5039588
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post May 11 2021, 08:32 PM

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saga waiting for u..
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post May 11 2021, 09:31 PM

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post May 11 2021, 09:37 PM

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Basic items to improve handling:
1) Sports spring from good maker.
2) Install rear ARB and front strut bar.
3) Increase the rims width with same R or one inch up. Riki for light rims. Not heavy imitation one. Lenso also ok.

Lastly

Know the car limits.

Reguards

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post May 11 2021, 09:43 PM

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U know the answer bro
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post May 11 2021, 09:46 PM

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Change car.

If you've got the budget to "improve" the ride handling of the Bezza.

You could've just reinvested in the budget and getting a better handling car.. which is the Proton Saga.

Didn't you test drove the Bezza before making the purchase? Or you're just trolling here.
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post May 11 2021, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ May 11 2021, 09:46 PM)
Change car.

If you've got the budget to "improve" the ride handling of the Bezza.

You could've just reinvested in the budget and getting a better handling car.. which is the Proton Saga.

Didn't you test drove the Bezza before making the purchase? Or you're just trolling here.
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When i test drove n bought the bezza i was just entry level worker and didn't seek out much in cars

Now its been 5 years n my bezza getting paid off and i start demanding more from cars only i will ask this, because wonder if i should still keep my bezza and save some cash or upgrade to a better handling one
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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 10:19 PM)
When i test drove n bought the bezza i was just entry level worker and didn't seek out much in cars

Now its been 5 years n my bezza getting paid off and i start demanding more from cars only i will ask this, because wonder if i should still keep my bezza and save some cash or upgrade to a better handling one
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try driver slower bro. then u will appreciate ur bezza more.

perodua make maximum fuel efficiency car by sacrifice stability(skinny tyre, narrow body, light kerb weight).

but majority drive perodua like setan. just now myvi tailgate me and overtake at corner.

people always dont know what they want..example like below
1) buy perodua but want good stability- wrong car selection
2) buy proton but want good fuel consumption- wrong car selection

u need to set ur priority rights b4 get the car
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post May 11 2021, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(mffa @ May 11 2021, 10:36 PM)
try driver slower bro. then u will appreciate ur bezza more.

perodua make maximum fuel efficiency car by sacrifice stability(skinny tyre, narrow body, light kerb weight).

but majority drive perodua like setan. just now myvi tailgate me and overtake at corner.

people always dont know what they want..example like below
1) buy perodua but want good stability- wrong car selection
2) buy proton but want good fuel consumption- wrong car selection

u need to set ur priority rights b4 get the car
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yea and lowyat also persuaded me to change car LOL

at first it was only about cheap and fuel efficiency but after these years i feel want abit more performance/handling in my car because i spend alot of time in my car...
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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 10:54 PM)
yea and lowyat also persuaded me to change car LOL

at first it was only about cheap and fuel efficiency but after these years i feel want abit more performance/handling in my car because i spend alot of time in my car...
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I write a bit different..

Upgrade Car.
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post May 11 2021, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 10:19 PM)
When i test drove n bought the bezza i was just entry level worker and didn't seek out much in cars

Now its been 5 years n my bezza getting paid off and i start demanding more from cars only i will ask this, because wonder if i should still keep my bezza and save some cash or upgrade to a better handling one
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I'll change my tone la..

In that case, try to resists the urge to upgrade your car until you have enough savings to upgrade from Bezza to another class > City/Vios/Persona.

Congrats to you for paying off the Bezza within 5 years.
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ May 11 2021, 07:12 PM)

The chassis is originated from Axia, legally engineered into a Sedan. So it's handling is no different than Axia except for a longer ass.

Even I drive Axia have tried going up to 130 for a short distance and that also is not recommended. And with stock R14 tyres.


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Side note, my stock Axia E cruise regularly 130-140 when i tried few times with Bezza 1.3 AT the handling is much worse.

Dont know where screwed up after borrowing Axia platform, confused.
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post May 11 2021, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ May 11 2021, 11:03 PM)
Side note, my stock Axia E cruise regularly 130-140 when i tried few times with Bezza 1.3 AT the handling is much worse.

Dont know where screwed up after borrowing Axia platform, confused.
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Yes i actually drove my colleagues Axia 1.0 before and felt that the car is faster and can corner better lol (could be weight issue bezza is like 100kg heavier)

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post May 11 2021, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ May 11 2021, 11:02 PM)
I'll change my tone la..

In that case, try to resists the urge to upgrade your car until you have enough savings to upgrade from Bezza to another class > City/Vios/Persona.

Congrats to you for paying off the Bezza within 5 years.
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The urge is strong now because i've been seeing 10 change car posts rclxm9.gif

If Bezza i think average people normally can do it with entry level salary, i just do normal maintenance and changed my brake pad once after these years

But more importantly is what comes next, close to 50km round trip from work each day i think i deserve a better cruise on highway, maybe trade in this bezza for a reliable upgrade or keep as backup if buy riskier 2nd hand cars if i want more fun hmm.gif drool.gif

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topup a bit buy a proper car la
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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 12 2021, 12:13 AM)
The urge is strong now because i've been seeing 10 change car posts  rclxm9.gif

If Bezza i think average people normally can do it with entry level salary, i just do normal maintenance and changed my brake pad once after these years

But more importantly is what comes next, close to 50km round trip from work each day i think i deserve a better cruise on highway, maybe trade in  this bezza for a reliable upgrade or keep as backup if buy riskier 2nd hand cars if i want more fun hmm.gif  drool.gif
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Bezza is pretty much a maintenance free car. For those who do not want to go through the fuss of improving the car's handling dynamic, they will prefer to change car. Which car to buy is another issue altogether.

For me, I will say it depends what's your goal and financial capability. Buying another new car or a better second hand car will likely set you back close to a thousand or so on monthly repayment. Are you willing to go back to the stage of repaying an entirely new loan again?

I myself frowned upon Bezza when it first came out since I'm not a slow driver myself, so Bezza is completely out of my consideration. But to be fair, different people have different objectives and goals in life. Car may just be a tool to move from Point A to B for them. To some people like myself, it's my hobby and passion. I love driving fast but safe. Car to me is an identity and a toy to have fun with.

So ask yourself these, what're your objectives and goals when it comes to car and finances?

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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 11:13 PM)
The urge is strong now because i've been seeing 10 change car posts  rclxm9.gif

If Bezza i think average people normally can do it with entry level salary, i just do normal maintenance and changed my brake pad once after these years

But more importantly is what comes next, close to 50km round trip from work each day i think i deserve a better cruise on highway, maybe trade in  this bezza for a reliable upgrade or keep as backup if buy riskier 2nd hand cars if i want more fun hmm.gif  drool.gif
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Seriously, why ask ask ask but never state what budget you have for this "upgrade"? Give crap input and you will get crap output.

Since latest Bezza comes with 15in wheels, that is a direction that you can start with. Ask around Bezza owner thread whats the rim spec the 2020 Bezza is using, especially the offset. Basically, 175/60R15 has almost same OD as 195/55R15, 592mm vs 594mm respectively. With the info gained, you can start looking for a set of 15in lightweight rims with the correct width and offset to clear the fenders. Pair the new rims with a set of better UHP tyres to your budget and liking. This lower tyre profile should reduce considerably the floaty feel I think.

Next, if you still have budget, can consider replacing the ori shocks that may have worn out over the years. Good candidate would be KYB RS Ultra and it has both front and rear shocks available. Just use back the ori springs for the time being and feel if it is up to expectation.

Forget the bars for a moment. Concentrate your budget on where it gives most result and satisfaction; wheels and shocks.

The ball is back in your court now. Your call.

Cheers
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ May 12 2021, 09:54 AM)
Seriously, why ask ask ask but never state what budget you have for this "upgrade"? Give crap input and you will get crap output.

Since latest Bezza comes with 15in wheels, that is a direction that you can start with. Ask around Bezza owner thread whats the rim spec the 2020 Bezza is using, especially the offset. Basically, 175/60R15 has almost same OD as 195/55R15, 592mm vs 594mm respectively. With the info gained, you can start looking for a set of 15in lightweight rims with the correct width and offset to clear the fenders. Pair the new rims with a set of better UHP tyres to your budget and liking. This lower tyre profile should reduce considerably the floaty feel I think.

Next, if you still have budget, can consider replacing the ori shocks that may have worn out over the years. Good candidate would be KYB RS Ultra and it has both front and rear shocks available. Just use back the ori springs for the time being and feel if it is up to expectation.

Forget the bars for a moment. Concentrate your budget on where it gives most result and satisfaction; wheels and shocks.

The ball is back in your court now. Your call.

Cheers
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Haha good reply that actually answered TS's initial questions. I also second your views on the above mods that can significantly improve the handling dynamics of the car, and I agree that most bars are not that useful except one or two (for instance, rear anti-roll bar). One thing though, are lightweight rims really necessary? Given that Bezza itself is inherently light and it may need more weight to support the car stability at higher speed range.

On top of what have been mentioned, it also depends on your budget available to modify the car. Perhaps you are not a fan of modifying far (which is understandable), but sometimes given the financial constraint, that really could be the most optimal way to go.

One of the best mods would be getting a set of beefier UHP tires than stock tires. This itself merits a thread and plenty of info are available in the forum.

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QUOTE(Nicholasng925 @ May 12 2021, 09:38 AM)
One thing though, are lightweight rims really necessary? Given that Bezza itself is inherently light and it may need more weight to support the car stability at higher speed range.

One of the best mods would be getting a set of beefier UHP tires than stock tires. This itself merits a thread and plenty of info are available in the forum.
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Reducing unsprung weight (suspension, tyres etc) is one key factor in improving handling. Even though the sprung weight (body, engine etc) may be already light in Bezza case

But Ultra High Performance tyres for Bezza ? Hehehe..

Ive been looking for better tyres for my Axia E regularly cruising ard 130 but want to maintain my stock steel 14" rims for occasional kampong roads, most UHP size starts at 16"
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ May 12 2021, 01:09 PM)
Reducing unsprung weight (suspension, tyres etc) is one key factor in improving handling. Even though the sprung weight (body, engine etc) may be already light in Bezza case

But Ultra High Performance tyres for Bezza ? Hehehe..

Ive been looking for better tyres for my Axia E regularly cruising ard 130 but want to maintain my stock steel 14" rims for occasional kampong roads, most UHP size starts at 16"
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QUOTE(Nicholasng925 @ May 12 2021, 09:38 AM)
Haha good reply that actually answered TS's initial questions. I also second your views on the above mods that can significantly improve the handling dynamics of the car, and I agree that most bars are not that useful except one or two (for instance, rear anti-roll bar). One thing though, are lightweight rims really necessary? Given that Bezza itself is inherently light and it may need more weight to support the car stability at higher speed range.

On top of what have been mentioned, it also depends on your budget available to modify the car. Perhaps you are not a fan of modifying far (which is understandable), but sometimes given the financial constraint, that really could be the most optimal way to go. 

One of the best mods would be getting a set of beefier UHP tires than stock tires. This itself merits a thread and plenty of info are available in the forum.
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weight support hi speed stable? u see f1 & racing car how many kg. how much speed stable.
hi speed pakai aero kit. not weight.
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QUOTE(zeng @ May 11 2021, 07:36 PM)
First, re-adjust existing Front camber angles towards more negative regime .....
and report back for further 'parts' replacement and $$$ if need be.
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ May 12 2021, 08:54 AM)
Seriously, why ask ask ask but never state what budget you have for this "upgrade"? Give crap input and you will get crap output.

Since latest Bezza comes with 15in wheels, that is a direction that you can start with. Ask around Bezza owner thread whats the rim spec the 2020 Bezza is using, especially the offset. Basically, 175/60R15 has almost same OD as 195/55R15, 592mm vs 594mm respectively. With the info gained, you can start looking for a set of 15in lightweight rims with the correct width and offset to clear the fenders. Pair the new rims with a set of better UHP tyres to your budget and liking. This lower tyre profile should reduce considerably the floaty feel I think.

Next, if you still have budget, can consider replacing the ori shocks that may have worn out over the years. Good candidate would be KYB RS Ultra and it has both front and rear shocks available. Just use back the ori springs for the time being and feel if it is up to expectation.

Forget the bars for a moment. Concentrate your budget on where it gives most result and satisfaction; wheels and shocks.

The ball is back in your court now. Your call.

Cheers
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Thanks, i will look into uhp tires and the lightweight rims
But i feel like wanna change the suspension too, adjustable ones wad is recommended
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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 11:07 PM)
Yes i actually drove my colleagues Axia 1.0 before and felt that the car is faster and can corner better lol (could be weight issue bezza is like 100kg heavier)
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i think, in general, hatchbacks have a sportier characteristic than its sedan sibling. (even rally cars changed from sedan to hatchbacks)

iriz will be more "fun" to drive than the persona, even if they share the same platform.
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what's your budget?
cheap one go after rim / tires
upgrade a bit go after absorber ( not adjustable type) + tires
if want further more, absorber change to adjustable but your car will no longer comfortable where whoever sit in your car will say spine pain.... and normally story line goes by is when you upgrade those you will say too slow, change engine + turbo end up change car cause too many ECU issue to solve.
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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 11:07 PM)
Yes i actually drove my colleagues Axia 1.0 before and felt that the car is faster and can corner better lol (could be weight issue bezza is like 100kg heavier)
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It appears to me the as-is-where-is alignment angle differences between them are substantial enough to give you such feeling, granted they are two differrent cars with dissimilarities in suspension systems.

The 'handicapped' Bezza handling/cornering may be improved with further alignment angle adjustments or refinements imho.
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sell Bezza buy Imprezza

both got ZZA

Imprezza is the short form for IMPRove beZZA handling

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as long as you didnt lose control still okay maa lol.

i drove my wife axia mt like shit tho,
trashing it around here and there corner like a maniac,
there are few moments i accidentally lift of the throttle and can feel the rear end buang a bit (oversteer)..that maybe during 60-70kmh exiting roudabout ..happen after weight instant weight transfer haha..

sumore no ESC only abs and stock tyre size CC6 haha..
so my advice if you drove it just for straight line and a little bit of high speed driving just let it as stock as possible..maybe can upgrade to wider tyre..ligther wheels forged or flow form..thats all..


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FYI Axia or Bezza Caster angle is already big for a small car..

+4-to +5 caster angle which give it the fake heavy steering(besides the EPS assitance) feel during highspeed.. but more camber gain during corner..and i saw axia and bezza not easily wear outside tyre like old myvi lagi best..

but the thing is the chassis tuning and the weight just cannot take it..u leave it as it is or you go all out like a race car..lol

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Sorry to borrow this thread since it related to Perodua

I've been thinking of adding small mod to Ativa...

Does adding UR Front strut bar help in term of R&H?

I thought of adding front strut bar and front lower bar first then rear anti-roll bar

I believe the tyre are okay for now since Perodua equip with Turanza T005A
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The most pantang words Bezza owners wanna hear are : CHANGE YOUR CAR
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QUOTE(empire @ Jun 10 2021, 11:21 AM)
The most pantang words Bezza owners wanna hear are : CHANGE YOUR CAR
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& yet could be the most commonly heard words, as well πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 9 2021, 12:49 AM)
Sorry to borrow this thread since it related to Perodua

I've been thinking of adding small mod to Ativa...

Does adding UR Front strut bar help in term of R&H?

I thought of adding front strut bar and front lower bar first then rear anti-roll bar

I believe the tyre are okay for now since Perodua equip with Turanza T005A
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Ride, no.

Handling, depends. But I thought DNGA is gooding mcm TNGA, I would just leave it as is.
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post Jun 11 2021, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(furrybun @ Jun 10 2021, 04:48 PM)
Ride, no.

Handling, depends. But I thought DNGA is gooding mcm TNGA, I would just leave it as is.
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Cause I came from driving Preve

So been having great R&H especially around corner πŸ˜…

I understand Ativa is a compact SUV as you said DNGA platform but I wish to have almost same kind of R&H experience as proton.
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post Jun 11 2021, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Jun 8 2021, 03:45 PM)
as long as you didnt lose control still okay maa lol.

i drove my wife axia mt like shit tho,
trashing it around here and there corner like a maniac,
there are few moments i accidentally lift of the throttle and can feel the rear end  buang a bit (oversteer)..that maybe during 60-70kmh exiting roudabout ..happen after weight instant weight transfer haha..

sumore no ESC only abs and stock tyre size CC6 haha..
so my advice if you drove it just for straight line and a little bit of high speed driving just let it as stock as possible..maybe can upgrade to wider tyre..ligther wheels forged or flow form..thats all..
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beware bro. better safe than sorry. had see axia suv xv style skid in front of my eyes in karak.

that axia got vsc yet can still skid. but maybe without vsc will turn 360.


QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 11 2021, 05:33 PM)
Cause I came from driving Preve

So been having great R&H especially around corner πŸ˜…

I understand Ativa is a compact SUV as you said DNGA platform but I wish to have almost same kind of R&H experience as proton.
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hard to fight sedan stability. thats why me will never get suv/mpv. bodyroll strong wo when taking corner. need to be real slow.
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post Jun 11 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 11 2021, 05:33 PM)
Cause I came from driving Preve

So been having great R&H especially around corner πŸ˜…

I understand Ativa is a compact SUV as you said DNGA platform but I wish to have almost same kind of R&H experience as proton.
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DNGA and TNGA are much better than the platforms before them, but that's just (finally) keeping up with the competitors.

It is only bring them up to the level of other brand that have been doing for last 4-5 years. They are not objectively better the their competitors. If you are the bottom of your class for many years, and suddenly wake up and study hard, then scoring B+ is a big news.

The medias and reviewers are exaggerating the improvement. There is no magic whistling.gif . What you pay is what you get.
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post Jun 11 2021, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 11 2021, 05:33 PM)
I understand Ativa is a compact SUV as you said DNGA platform but I wish to have almost same kind of R&H experience as proton.
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bro... P2... to catch up to P1, definitely not now, maybe 5-10 years in the future? assuming Proton is sleeping on the job and no longer improving.

But under Geely rule? heh. (don't forget they own Volvo and Lotus ya, top players in the industry when it comes to ride and handling)
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 11 2021, 05:33 PM)
Cause I came from driving Preve

So been having great R&H especially around corner πŸ˜…

I understand Ativa is a compact SUV as you said DNGA platform but I wish to have almost same kind of R&H experience as proton.
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Trying to get an economy crossover to handle like a sedan is an exercise in futility, especially considering that Preve benefited from Proton's R&H know-how while Ativa is....well...a Perodua/Daihatsu, even with DNGA.

At least, not something you can achieve with a couple of bars.

Ftuned has just completed R&D on their new coilover products for Ativa, maybe you can give them a ring. It's gonna be much more expensive than chassis bars, though.

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jun 11 2021, 09:02 PM)
The medias and reviewers are exaggerating the improvement. There is no magic  whistling.gif . What you pay is what you get.
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Damn..so true nia. So fucking true. My sister just bought hp.top up a bit get this spec, then topup further get this, topup even further get this.

I think ar, consumer goods is like that. u cant really compare example saga with persona with city. they are the best for their price range.

example saga, people might said, power a bit lack need 1.6 better get persona. but persona u need to topup liao. same goes to persona vs city. people said city faster, fuel efficient. but u need to topup.

tbh, people always say can compare same segment. but what I see is price range is different. So conclusion, still cannot compare. The most accurate measurement is price. but cars rarely got exact seling price.
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jun 12 2021, 12:08 AM)
Damn..so true nia. So fucking true. My sister just bought hp.top up a bit get this spec, then topup further get this, topup even further get this.

I think ar, consumer goods is like that. u cant really compare example saga with persona with city. they are the best for their price range.

example saga, people might said, power a bit lack need 1.6 better get persona. but persona u need to topup liao. same goes to persona vs city. people said city faster, fuel efficient. but u need to topup.

tbh, people always say can compare same segment. but what I see is price range is different. So conclusion, still cannot compare. The most accurate measurement is price. but cars rarely got exact seling price.
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Better get Poco F3 over Poco X3 Pro people said. kek. Need to topup rm400. Bodoh. If same price range can only talk ar.

Consumer good definitely like that. "Better get persona over saga, topup a bit only". in the end topup topup never ending, until rolls royce level. kek bodo
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Jun 11 2021, 08:38 PM)
beware bro. better safe than sorry. had see axia suv xv style skid in front of my eyes in karak.

that axia got vsc yet can still skid. but maybe without vsc will turn 360.
hard to fight sedan stability. thats why me will never get suv/mpv. bodyroll strong wo when taking corner. need to be real slow.
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ya bro high speed i dont usually do like those kings myvi and axia bezza queen..cos i know this car not build for high speed ..after reaching 90kmh just let go the paddle and maintain speed . this thing so sketchy bro during high speed cornering or straight line..a simple sudden lane change etc like moose test sure GG..


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post Jun 13 2021, 03:49 PM

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Won't improve much kot...Perodua cars handling macam sampan. Drive and know the limits enough...else change car
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Sell it, buy Satria or Neo or Putra. You will have much more confident on high speed with low maintenance cost.
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You need coilover.
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QUOTE(Ang3237 @ May 11 2021, 05:37 PM)
Hi sifus, any suggestion for upgrading bezza's handling + stability during highway ?

Prefer to not feel like shaking or sampan feeling when driving highway speed, and also not feel like car gonna flip then cornering

Lower car body? Change suspension ? Change tyre? Need some suggestion and advice
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1st of all, tyres and bigger rim upgrade.. better grip like RE004, those stock ecopia seriously is an ECO tyre..
2nd suspension setup, either you can get adjustable absorber or sport spring depend on your budget..
3rd braking system, better grip disc eg racing disc and better brake pad.. same size preferred as increase size would hurt your pocket more when buy the brake pad later on
4th better seat, stock seat is for comfort.. when you bash corner hard, your whole body sure sway left or right badly.. better seat its not like those bucket seat, just like recaro enjoy is good enough
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as for engine upgrade, well just familiar with the car for like 1-2 years after above upgrade, then later on you think about it..
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The most you can do to improve it is the suspension system. But who makes tuned suspension system for Bezza? All are off the shelf pre tuned suspensions.

A slight increase of wheel size is also good. 14" to 15" will be enough.

Forget all those stupid bars. Proven by the infamous fully loaded with "tuned chassis" parts bezza that flipped over.

 

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