After few years of using Belkin surge protector, I started to question their product quality control.
So far I've sent 2 surge protectors for RMA, one protector they replace a new one for me, the other one they refunded for me.
And the RMA process is kinda tedious, you can only RMA from the seller that you bought, Belkin Malaysia will not entertain you even if bought their genuine product.
And recently I just found out now all the Belkin surge protector no longer offers a lifetime warranty.
is that any good quality surge protector recommend?
This is what i found, feel free to recommend.
APC
https://shopee.com.my/APC-PM6U-UK-6-OUTLETS...2218.2092802972

Targus
https://shopee.com.my/TARGUS-SURGE-PROTECTO...67819.438358123

Huntkey (4 gang)

APC (5 gang, 2 usb)

Or any brand of voltage regulator that can find in the local market

This post has been edited by adamtayy: May 11 2021, 03:07 PM

Easy : APC. No experience with them, but atleast they are from a known company.

Advanced : Callab.
Need to know what unit suitable for your setup, and understanding the concept of making a "safe island". Used it long time ago and successfully protect my Streamyx modem from lightning surge. But these days I don't have issue with surge anymore, so not using it.

Their online website & store sucks though... http://www.callab2u.com/main/3000/index.as...&t=online-store

Used to have authorised seller here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/272679 but already locked. Can read & use it as a reference. And maybe can ask for recommended unit for your setup on their Facebook.

My past experience with their unit : https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=71280287

This post has been edited by andy0212: May 11 2021, 03:16 PM

I dun buy surge protector anymore. I buy voltage regulator. PK was really very good. But the company bungkus already. Today I think the better one are made by APC.

Right Power, reasonable price and good quality products.

What? When did PK (PowerKinetics) closed down?

Uncle got 3 of PK AVR still in use. Guess the alternative would be APC.

I always trust and use APC. So far all mine was APC brand.

Huntkey never heard before.
APC yea currently eyeing a few models.

yea currently looking at APC
I think no need go fir advance since i no longer use streamyx anymore.

ic, not sure about APC tho.. never use before.

never heard this brand before, is it good compare to APC, belkin ?

I think i might give it a try for APC, really getting tired with Belkin, my personal experience their product just doesnt last long.
But for APC, some seller stated lifetime warranty, some seller only stated 3 years only. kinda confuse.

It's not a well-known brand, but they have good quality products. Been using Right Power brand for more than 20 years
https://rightpowerups.com.my/who-we-are-detail/
https://rightpowerups.com.my/product/avr-tr-series/
Well-known brand doesn't always means better, it just means they did a better marketing only with their products.

Masterplug surge protector

before you buy any surge protector . some info to know.
they last about 3 year . if your area have more lightning/ power trips .. i will guess 2 years or less.

check this specs before buy
1. when the protection is dead does it auto shut off or have a warning LED .
2. what is the joule/KVA protection rating. bigger value means last longer.
3. the product must have international test certification . like UL , TUV etc...
4. products with no specs ...dont buy.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2015/09/3...homeowners-say/


This post has been edited by Momo33: May 14 2021, 08:20 AM

AVR are design to auto maintain a constant voltage as per specs indicate.
Our tenaga mains is reliable and stable in city areas.
PSU can work from 200 to 265 V . as per specs and tested certification .
i dont see a need for AVR for a home PC .
so not surprise the Com bungkus.

where does it say in the AVR specs/ design it provides Surge protection to your PC
what level of surge protection in J or kVA ?
for all i know that protection is for the AVR itself.



This post has been edited by Momo33: May 14 2021, 08:29 AM

ic.. i've checked rightpowerups, since i no longer using streamyx i think i will just go for the basic surge protector.
i dont think i will go for AVR.. seems overkill, because is just use it for modem, router and charging station.
and btw, their design pretty vintage tho..

thx for ur suggestion, by comparing with APC the price and similar but Surge energy rating lower.

thats a good story and i think everyone should be alert.
Just share my experience. This is the belkin surge protector that i sent back for RMA
My parents told me suddenly their phones won't charge no matter what, at first I thought the adapter was broken.
After i take a closer look to the extension, i heard very little buzzing noise sound coming from the extension.
turns out the cover inside was broken and it causes a small burn to the adapter. Fortunately no fire hazard.
when i purchased this extension, basically never unplug the adapter or anything. it just stays there.
in the end i got refunded from the seller.

It's not about the outlook of their product, it's about the quality of their products. If you never try yourself, you will never know how good it is. It's your call. Right Power AVR is available in Shopee and Viewnet, if you are interested on trying it out.

This post has been edited by RectangleX: May 15 2021, 03:38 PM

kindly share your experience.

stumble across this video, hope can help some of u to figure out which device that u actually need.
I think surge protector is enuff for me for my use case.
and the rightpower never stated the surge energy rating, joules. which kinda dodgy.

APC looks vintage, dodgy and doesn't suit my needs too. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Life moves on.

This post has been edited by RectangleX: May 16 2021, 04:38 PM

Learn from your mistake. That protectors had near zero joules. Other 'magic' boxes also profit by marketing to the most naive consumers - who ignore all specifications. Profits are obscene.

How many joules does that Belkin claim to 'block' or 'absorb'. Honest answers always discuss numbers.

How does its 2 cm protector part 'block' what three kilometers of sky cannot? Why is that question not being asked?

How does its paltry thousand joules 'absorb' surges that can be hundreds of thousands of joules? Only effective protectors answer that question. No plug-in protector does.

Protection only exists when a surge is not anywhere inside. Protection is always about where hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate. Even that protector remains functional after many direct lightning strikes over many decades. Which means a protector from other companies know for integrity. Belkin, Panamax, APC, Tripplite, Monster, etc are not listed.

Effective protectors never try to 'block' or 'absorb' a surge. Effective protectors are connecting devices to what does all protection. To what harmlessly dissipates hundreds of thousands of joules. As Ben Franklin demonstrated over 250 years ago.

Lightning seeks earth ground. A best connecting device was wooden church steeples. But wood is not a very conductive material. Steeple damaged.

Franklin connected a lightning rod to earth ground. Rod does not do protection. It only connects to what does all protection - earth ground electrodes.

Lightning seeks earth ground. A best connecting device is household appliances. But appliances are not a very conductive connection. Appliances damaged.

We connect a protector (low impedance - ie less than 3 meters) to earth ground. Protector does not do protection. It only connects to what does all protection - earth ground electrodes.

Well proven science was installed and routinely proven even over 100 years ago. They never wasted money on any magic plug-in box. They always properly earth 'whole house' protection. Why do so many today not know any of this. A massive disinformation campaign is that profitable.

Lightning is typically 20,000 amps. So a minimal 'whole house' protector is 50,000 amps. Effective protectors remain functional after every surge. Only scams fail after one surge. Fail so that the most naive consumers recommend it and buy more. To protect profit margins.

Effective protection ALWAYS answers this question. Where do hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate? Either a hardwire connects low impedance (ie hardwire has no sharp bends or splices) to earthing electrodes. Or when that low impedance (ie less than 3 meter) hardwire connection is made via a 'whole house' protector.

Obviously wall receptacle safety grounds are not earth ground. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. That Belkin (and those other magic plug-in protectors) clearly does no effective appliance protection. Simply read specification numbers. But it sure does protect profits.

Every plug-in protector has a tiny (near zero) joule rating. None claim any effective protection. Effective protection always answers this question. Where do hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate?

That light can only report a failure that must never happen. Tiny joule protector parts are disconnected by a thermal fuse - to avert a house fire. MOVs must never fail catastrophically - as MOV manufacturer's specifications so bluntly state.

So a thermal fuse detected catastrophic failures - disconnects only protector parts - leaves a surge fully connected to appliances.

No problem. A surge that can destroy that thousand joules protector is also routinely converted by electronics into rock stable, low DC voltages that safely power semiconductors. Since the appliance protected itself, then the most naive consumers claim "My protector sacrificed itself to save my electronics".

Again no protection exists if a protector fails. That light says protector parts were grossly undersized. But sometimes that thermal fuse does not disconnect fast enough. Then this happens.

Or this discovered by firemen in their own firehouse.

If that plug-in protector is found in your luggage, a cruise ship may confiscate it. They take that fire threat seriously.

Effective protectors only degrade. Its threshold voltage changes 10%. That light can never report the safe (acceptable) failure mode. That light only reports when a protector was so grossly undersized that a thermal fuse (the emergency backup protection device) averted a house fire.

the IEEE recommendation papers advise the use of Surge SPD for surge protection base on experience by experts and industry studies on power surge .

the general advise to to have 1 surge SPD for whole house at the service entrance ie DB box . and a Point of Use plug in protector .

to have effective House surge protection very important to do
1. the selection of a correct SPD base on specs. and reputable manufacturer.
2. the RULES to install must be strictly comply . like loc where to install , cables lengths etc.
3. Point of use plug in protector . specs/brand and use within 10 m .
3. A good grounding system via gnd rod within specs.

local expert studies have shown you can get about 15kV , 10kA into your house in lightning storms in Malaysia.
hence you need to protect your TV , pc, routers etc...

compare the cost install SPD ,and surge power strips 200 rm and up .
TV cost 5K , PC ..3K , router 500rm .

it makes sense to install SPD s


This post has been edited by Momo33: May 18 2021, 10:26 AM

Cprrect. The subjective statement is true. Then numbers are included. That 'whole house' protector (Type 1 or 2) does 99.5% to 99.9% of the protection. Leaving plug-in protector to do maybe 0.2% more protection.

It must exist to protect Type 3 (plug-in) protectors. Otherwise tiny joule protectors can do this.

IEEE then says:

One 'whole house' protector protects all appliances. One plug-in protector only attempts to protect one or two appliances.

Worse, a plug-in (Type 3) protector can even compromise what is superior (better) protection inside electronics if not used in conjunction with a 'whole house' (Type 1 or 2) protector.

This post has been edited by westom: May 18 2021, 09:02 PM

My belkin surge protector kaput after only 1 month, i guess their quality control terrible edi, so how do u actually claim their warranty? need to call them 1st or straight go to the seller? cause im buying it online..

Which series did you buy? the cheapest one or the fat series?
You can contact the seller to see if they can help you out but in most cases they'll ask you to go to Belkin instead

F9S620sa4M this exact model, the fat one i guess? I prefer to send it directly to belkin, do u know where's the service centre?

No idea.. https://www.belkin.com/my/contactus/locations/ doesn't list an add for MY

Exactly the same model as mine that i sent for warranty, F9S620sa4M, the cover inside broken, my phone charger got burned a little.

I bought it at shopee few years back, contacted the seller, the model no more stock so the seller refunded me.
I am just lucky, the seller willing to refund me, I will not buy any Belkin product in the future and all their surge protector no longer offer lifetime warranty.
Few things I learnt during the process
1. Don't go directly to Belkin Malaysia, they will always ask you contact the seller for warranty, and they don't want to handle it.
2. If the seller no longer available, aka closed shop, Belkin will not entertain you unless you have the official receipt from the seller.
3. If the seller is gone, and you don't have the official receipt, say bye bye to your warranty.

This post has been edited by Rainings: Oct 7 2021, 12:54 PM

Replaced my Belkin with APC. Reason? It is a well known brand specialized in power devices owned by Schneider Electric and has an IEC 61643-11 certificate.

Surprised no one recommend CyberPower? Or is it CyberPower not popular in Malaysia? I am currently living in Taiwan and is using this CyberPower CP1000PFCLCDA 1000VA UPS. I think Malaysia should have the equivalent model. It comes with UPS + AVR + Surge Protection, basically all-in-one package for ~RM600 converted.

Try to buy from reputable seller APC recommend.

i just bought 1 Schneider Electric brand few months back online during promo. am ok with that

I no longer into surge protector because I have an experience that my desktop was strike by lightning during one thunderstorm even my CPU was protected with UPS and surge protector. One thunder strike and my mobo and PSU both also declare dead.

yes ... lightning surge can zap .

Surge protector have a limited life.
what brand did you use. ?
has it a LED indication 'protected '

Belkin.

OK .
I am guessing you dont have a SPD T2 installed in your DB box. if not do look to install one. its for 1st level protection and can handle
a bigger Surge.

Belkins can only limit the surge current to about 10K A
Lightning strike if near your house can cause surge current to about 40K A average.

Not sure if this is the right thread or question to ask here.

reading the title and this came to mind. I think our Malaysia's voltage level fluctuates quite widely, from 207 volt to 237 volt (or should I say this is the levels I notice on the power wall meter).

This can't be good right? is there anything that can be done with this?

Got a question sifu, if you already have proper MCB installed in your db box for your house, do you REALLY still need a surge protector?

The person you are replying to, westom, is a weird one
They are on basically every forum out there (including washing machine, cycling) and will always respond to surge protector related queries with his answer