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TSsunsetdiary
post May 10 2021, 02:08 AM, updated 5y ago

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Hi all

For laptop using SSD and Windows 10 it better to sleep or shutdown it ?

Anyones ever sleep it in a month each time not in used ?

I want to known does sleep would decreas perfomance.

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PrinceJoe
post May 10 2021, 03:28 AM

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Usually, i use hibernate function.
Imho, Better than shutdown.

Alteria P
post May 10 2021, 05:06 AM

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Is there a reason why you are considering sleep? With a SSD it boots pretty fast already so shutdown should be okay.
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post May 10 2021, 06:37 AM

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well usually i shutdown. once windows update dunno do what settings enable quick startup which made my laptop nvr really shutdown for few weeks(saw that from task manager). The cpu load was high and only noticed it when fan blasting all the time. after disable the setting for real shut down it was ok now.
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post May 10 2021, 06:43 AM

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Last time my x1 extreme I just close the lid,
But after update the windows update, it can’t already as I will randomly on even lid is close and consume all power...
Now I just use hibernate as I lazy to open all the app and got work in mid way......
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post May 10 2021, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Alteria @ May 10 2021, 05:06 AM)
Is there a reason why you are considering sleep ? With a SSD it boots pretty fast already so shutdown should be okay.
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I think sleep would be faster than boot.


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post May 10 2021, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(sunsetdiary @ May 10 2021, 02:08 AM)
Hi all

For laptop using SSD and Windows 10 it better to sleep or shutdown it ?

Anyones ever sleep it in a month each time not in used ?

I want to known does sleep would decreas perfomance.

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sleep means everything in ram is stored in ssd / hdd and preserved. No performance degradation, designed for fast boot / fast wakeup
Alteria P
post May 10 2021, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(sunsetdiary @ May 10 2021, 08:17 AM)
I think sleep would be faster than boot.
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Bought a budget 256GB SSD and it boots up within 15 seconds had it for almost 3 years now but yes no problem is you prefer sleep and want to go back to doing something in a second! smile.gif
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post May 10 2021, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Alteria @ May 10 2021, 01:29 PM)
Bought a budget 256GB SSD and it boots up within 15 seconds had it for almost 3 years now but yes no problem is you prefer sleep and want to go back to doing something in a second! smile.gif
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Hibernate instead, as it uses less power than sleep and in the case your battery suddenly kaput during hibernation / you're plugged in to charger (with battery taken out) and there is a sudden power cut during hibernation, it doesn't affect any of your work that is in progress.

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post May 10 2021, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(pastadudde @ May 10 2021, 01:50 PM)
Hibernate instead, as it uses less power than sleep and in the case your battery suddenly kaput during hibernation / you're plugged in to charger (with battery taken out) and there is a sudden power cut during hibernation, it doesn't affect any of your work that is in progress.
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I use sleep mode for all my PCs, including desktop. And pressing the power button, the system goes to sleep instead of shutdown. Boots up real fast, like few secs only.
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post May 11 2021, 11:10 AM

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For me, I choose hibernate. If you computer run out of battery/no power, then whatever you put in sleep mode will be gone.
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post May 11 2021, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ May 11 2021, 11:10 AM)
For me, I choose hibernate. If you computer run out of battery/no power, then whatever you put in sleep mode will be gone.
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Strange, in my case, when i fully unplug the PC desktop, it has no impact. hmm.gif
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post May 11 2021, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(sunsetdiary @ May 10 2021, 08:17 AM)
I think sleep would be faster than boot.
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Of course.

But do you REALLY need to start working that fast?
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post May 11 2021, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(chkwong @ May 11 2021, 12:02 PM)
Strange, in my case, when i fully unplug the PC desktop, it has no impact. hmm.gif
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sleep require small amount of power to operate... coz all the stuff are stored in the RAM. If no power to RAM, then everything will be wiped off. hmm.gif You sure it is not hibernate?
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post May 11 2021, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ May 11 2021, 12:07 PM)
Of course.

But do you REALLY need to start working that fast?
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Sleep/hibernate can preserve the open windows... which is quite convenient when I just want to continue where I left off. (Instead of figuring out what is the last program/email that I work on)
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post May 11 2021, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(waghyu @ May 10 2021, 08:19 AM)
sleep means everything in ram is stored in ssd / hdd and preserved. No performance degradation, designed for fast boot / fast wakeup
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Totally wrong. Only when hibernate ram written to ssd. Sleep is just low power state .
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post May 11 2021, 02:40 PM

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Fyi, .......

https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-a...t-startup-mode/ - The Pros and Cons of Windows 10’s “Fast Startup” Mode - Updated Jul 3, 2017
"Windows 10’s Fast Startup (called Fast Boot in Windows 8) works similarly to the hybrid sleep mode of previous versions of Windows. By saving the operating system state to a hibernation file, it can make your computer boot up even faster, saving valuable seconds every time you turn your machine on.

Fast Startup is enabled by default in a clean Windows installation on most laptops and some desktops, but it doesn’t always work perfectly, and there are some downsides that might convince you to turn it off. Here’s what you need to know.

How Fast Startup Works

Fast Startup combines elements of a cold shutdown and the hibernate feature. When you shut down your computer with Fast Startup enabled, Windows closes all applications and logs off all users, just as in a normal cold shutdown. At this point, Windows is in a state very similar to when it’s freshly booted up: No users have logged in and started programs, but the Windows kernel is loaded and the system session is running. Windows then alerts device drivers that support it to prepare for hibernation, saves the current system state to the hibernation file, and turns off the computer.

When you start the computer again, Windows does not have to reload the kernel, drivers, and system state individually. Instead, it just refreshes your RAM with the loaded image from the hibernation file and delivers you to the login screen. This technique can shave considerable time off your start up.

This is different from the regular hibernate feature. When you put your computer into hibernation mode, it also saves open folders and applications, as well as currently logged in users. Hibernation is great if you want to return your computer to the exact state it was in when you turned it off. Fast Startup offers a freshly-started Windows, just more quickly. And don’t forget, Windows offers various shutdown options too. It pays to understand how they differ.

Why You Might Want to Disable Fast Startup ...


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By default, Win 10 does not shutdown. Instead, it goes into minimal hibernation mode when you click or press the shutdown/Power-off switch or button.
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post May 11 2021, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(xerox8908 @ May 11 2021, 02:08 PM)
Totally wrong. Only when hibernate ram written to ssd. Sleep is just low power state .
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same animal, all kept in paging
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post May 11 2021, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(waghyu @ May 11 2021, 03:49 PM)
same animal, all kept in paging
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Wrong. doh.gif doh.gif cannot read or what ? i said when sleep ram is still powered. There is no whatever "paging" you were saying.
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post May 12 2021, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 11 2021, 02:40 PM)
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Fyi, .......

https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-a...t-startup-mode/ - The Pros and Cons of Windows 10’s “Fast Startup” Mode - Updated Jul 3, 2017
"Windows 10’s Fast Startup (called Fast Boot in Windows 8) works similarly to the hybrid sleep mode of previous versions of Windows. By saving the operating system state to a hibernation file, it can make your computer boot up even faster, saving valuable seconds every time you turn your machine on.

Fast Startup is enabled by default in a clean Windows installation on most laptops and some desktops, but it doesn’t always work perfectly, and there are some downsides that might convince you to turn it off. Here’s what you need to know.

How Fast Startup Works

Fast Startup combines elements of a cold shutdown and the hibernate feature. When you shut down your computer with Fast Startup enabled, Windows closes all applications and logs off all users, just as in a normal cold shutdown. At this point, Windows is in a state very similar to when it’s freshly booted up: No users have logged in and started programs, but the Windows kernel is loaded and the system session is running. Windows then alerts device drivers that support it to prepare for hibernation, saves the current system state to the hibernation file, and turns off the computer.

When you start the computer again, Windows does not have to reload the kernel, drivers, and system state individually. Instead, it just refreshes your RAM with the loaded image from the hibernation file and delivers you to the login screen. This technique can shave considerable time off your start up.

This is different from the regular hibernate feature. When you put your computer into hibernation mode, it also saves open folders and applications, as well as currently logged in users. Hibernation is great if you want to return your computer to the exact state it was in when you turned it off. Fast Startup offers a freshly-started Windows, just more quickly. And don’t forget, Windows offers various shutdown options too. It pays to understand how they differ.

Why You Might Want to Disable Fast Startup ...


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By default, Win 10 does not shutdown. Instead, it goes into minimal hibernation mode when you click or press the shutdown/Power-off switch or button.
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I actually have a full shut down command prompt on my desktop due to this.


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