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 Hisense 2021 TV range - something for everyone.

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 21 2022, 05:05 PM)
No... did TV price went back up? I think this model similar to my 2020 A7400F which I got for RM2.5K. Dolby Vision, Android TV9, MEMC.
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I'm wondering, have you had any OTA update since purchased? None for my unit. Keep sending PMs on Twitter & FB without any positive reply. Only in MY we don't get OTAs. I wonder why?
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QUOTE(alvinddm @ Jan 21 2022, 07:01 PM)
I'm wondering, have you had any OTA update since purchased? None for my unit. Keep sending PMs on Twitter & FB without any positive reply. Only in MY we don't get OTAs. I wonder why?
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Nope, no OTA. I dont really mind since mostly security update. I dont see any difference to my recently purchased X90J with Google TV.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 21 2022, 07:04 PM)
Nope, no OTA. I dont really mind since mostly security update. I dont see any difference to my recently purchased X90J with Google TV.
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I think security updates is quite important since it's connected to LAN 24/7. Also hoping OTA will have bug fixes for WiFi 5/6 as I still cannot connect to.
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QUOTE(alvinddm @ Jan 21 2022, 07:12 PM)
I think security updates is quite important since it's connected to LAN 24/7. Also hoping OTA will have bug fixes for WiFi 5/6 as I still cannot connect to.
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Not really. There's really limited settings on Android/Google TV that can be exploited anyway.
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post Jan 21 2022, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(Iylia @ Jan 21 2022, 03:41 PM)
Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

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Maybe not sponsored but "heavily influenced". Noticed the "about Hisense" section on that video. Sponsored videos can't be monetized by the YouTuber. Maybe some money changed hands. Maybe not. Reading the comments section, I don't think Adam Lobo realized that the U7G North America is different from the rest of the world

LCDTVThailand review video had a similar section. But his review is far more extensive with a bit more scientific data put in.

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Any real-life reviews of the MY/SEA version of 65U7G?


From this thread.

QUOTE(faizdtk @ Sep 29 2021, 10:00 AM)
Got my u7g yesterday. Don't know how to review but from my inexperienced eyes, this tv really great. Its way better than my 5 years old full hd tv (also hisense).
Can't comment much on the image quality compare to other 4k tv since this is my 1st 4k tv. Vidaa os is ok and pretty smooth. I don't like that I can't remove preinstall apps. Too much useless apps for me. If someone know how yo remove the apps, please comment.
For gaming, this tv also support vrr and dolby vision for gaming. I'm using xbox series s.
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This guy sold his 55 U7G because he wanted a 65" TV. Didn't disclose what 65" TV he bought in replacement.
QUOTE(ikhwandayne @ Sep 10 2021, 12:50 AM)
I think it is bangs for your hard earned bucks. Dolby Vision-Atmos, HDR10, Full Array, Local Dimming at this price is a bargain. The only thing that is wrong for me is the size as I'm looking for the 65" or higher.
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This guy bought the U800QF, which is the higher up model before the U7G. The U800QF is too similar to the U8G (Thai model) to not be considered a shameless name change by Hisense. I included his review here because of the similarities in specs to the U8G Thailand model.

QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 8 2021, 02:28 PM)
Hello. TV was delivered yday evening and I have set it up on my TV console (Ikea Besta with Ikea Uppleva mount). Some first impressions :

1) 65-inch is incredibly big! Viewing distance is about 2.5 meters. Will take some time to get used to, but it's nice to be this immersed into the content. Context, I was coming from a basic LG 43-inch Full HD TV from 2016. This is a massive step up in size and everything else.

2) IT LOOKS AWESOME! I mean, I might not have the sharpest eyes to detect blooming, ghosting, motion blurs and all that. I'm also not the kind of person to throw up a bunch of test videos on this TV to find its flaws. I plugged it in, and straight away started to enjoy my usual content on Netflix, Plex, and Youtube. It's an incredibly enjoyable experience IMO.

3) HDR content really pops! The screen gets really bright to the point that gun muzzle flashes (sp?) and things like lightning get shockingly bright. Never having had a HDR TV before, I don't have anything to compare to. Regardless, I'm impressed by the dynamic range it is able to display in the shadows and highlights.

4) Full-array local dimming is great. I've been watching Night on Earth (Netflix) a lot, and the effect is just stunning, even with the subtitles on. Shots with the lit moon on one half of the screen and complete darkness on the other blows my mind away. Even when subtitles are on, I have not noticed issues with blooming around the text, at least not to my untrained eyes. The black levels really impress me, and I'm not sure it gets much better than this other than going full OLED.

5) Motion is a bit iffy with some settings. With smooth motion disabled, motion is quite juddery and stuttery. I also notice it sometimes struggling a bit with dark areas. I have played around with it, and so far am settling with the 'Film' setting, and it seems to have fixed those issues. 'Smooth' is a bit too buttery and Soap Opera for me, and I don't like it (maybe later for football or F1), but definitely not movies and shows. I will continue to experiment with this, but so far I am happy with 'Film'.

6) Speakers are okay, better than most TVs, but definitely more garbage than any average sound bar. Doesn't matter to me, I don't use the TV speakers at all other than the initial testing while the TV was set on the floor.
Overall, I am really surprisingly impressed by this TV. It looked great in the store, but I feel it looks even better at home. Even watching 1080p content is really enjoyable (mind you, I am using the upscaling from my nVidia Shield Pro 2019, so it might just be the Shield's excellent upscaling). For the price I paid, I am really happy with it. No TV is perfect, and this one certainly is not either, but the price-to-performance ratio hits the sweet spot for me smile.gif
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Interestingly, Hisense just launched in Singapore. Their U7G promo video was released on YouTube two weeks ago. Price wise, their MSRP is the same as the discount price of Hisense Malaysia's official store on Shopee. Perhaps due to being late to market as compared to Thailand and Malaysia, Hisense SG is offering a 3-month Netflix subscription and an antenna.



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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 6 2022, 02:39 PM)
Correct. Hisense International's decision making about 120Hz and HDMI 2.1 decision for international units is stupid. But what can you do.

On the other hand, 120Hz is not really necessary. 60Hz panels that can handle 24 fps have been around since the early days of 720p LCD TVs, which is some 15 years ago. 120Hz panel makes the process of smoothing the judder a little easier. Basically, the world didn't go blind or mad with 60Hz panels.

Gamers who play competitively online know that, at least with current GPU/CPU capability, they can't have the 120Hz 4K experience with all the texture details. 120Hz in 4K with low details, that's possible. It's like gaming in 720p vs 1080p in 2006.

Meanwhile, at CES 2022 Hisense announced some interesting stuff. The new TV models won't arrive until May or June this year.  If Hisense International is predictable, only North America will get the best models with the best tech and the best prices.
Hi. I just created this account to ask you about Hisense U7G. I'm aware that MY model is not the same as US model hence no HDMI 2.1. However, I did email Hisense some questions. Here are the answers:
2) Local Dimming of U7G

65" (90 Zones)

55" (72 Zones)


3) Image Refresh Frequency is 60Hz. Malaysia U7G don’t have HDMI 2.1. but can support 4K @ 60Hz, MEMC can boost until 120Hz smooth motion rate. For game mode U7G can support 60Hz as it comes with VRR and ALLM

My question is. Would I be able to play games on my PS5 that support 120fps with upscaling despite the lack of HDMI 2.1 and 120hz panel? I don't really understand the MEMC part with 120Hz smooth motion rate.
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post Jan 23 2022, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(Zackychan @ Jan 22 2022, 11:18 PM)
Would I be able to play games on my PS5 that support 120fps with upscaling despite the lack of HDMI 2.1 and 120hz panel? I don't really understand the MEMC part with 120Hz smooth motion rate.
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Nope. You can't play at 120Hz at 4K. This is a similar situation back in 2006 with PS3 displaying games at 720p and upconverted them to 10800p while the PC version displays it natively at 1080p. Except that most games on PCs can't do 120Hz in 4K and show high level of details and apply ray tracing anyway. If you intend to play competitively at 120Hz, get a 120Hz monitor.

MEMC stands for Motion Estimation, Motion Compensation. Most TV are shot in 24, 25 or 30 fps. Most films are shot in 24 fps. The U7G, and probably most other mid- and low-end TVs, have native 60Hz panels. MEMC creates frames in between the gaps of 24 fps into 60fps. They are not actual frames from the original content, just an estimation and compensation. The MEMC chip can create fake frames at 120Hz but the U7G panel can only display half of them.

You do not want to enable MEMC if you want to play well on the PS5 as it creates lag. Creating fake frames is not the fastest operation. Best set the U7G in Game Mode and ALLM, and play at 60Hz.





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post Jan 23 2022, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 12:14 AM)
Nope. You can't play at 120Hz at 4K. This is a similar situation back in 2006 with PS3 displaying games at 720p and upconverted them to 10800p while the PC version displays it natively at 1080p. Except that most games on PCs can't do 120Hz in 4K and show high level of details and apply ray tracing anyway. If you intend to play competitively at 120Hz, get a 120Hz monitor.

MEMC stands for Motion Estimation, Motion Compensation. Most TV are shot in 24, 25 or 30 fps. Most films are shot in 24 fps. The U7G, and probably most other mid- and low-end TVs, have native 60Hz panels. MEMC creates frames in between the gaps of 24 fps into 60fps. They are not actual frames from the original content, just an estimation and compensation. The MEMC chip can create fake frames at 120Hz but the U7G panel can only display half of them.

You do not want to enable MEMC if you want to play well on the PS5 as it creates lag. Creating fake frames is not the fastest operation. Best set the U7G in Game Mode and ALLM, and play at 60Hz.
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I see. Many thanks for your answer. I don't multiplayer games much, more of a singleplayer + couch coop with my wife. I just want to see if I able to play Doom on my PS5 with 120fps with the tv. So no MEMC for gaming, only for watching movie got it.

Also, would you prefer Sony X90J over Hisense U7G? I'm contemplating these two. Although the Sony X90J has no VRR atm, at least it has HDMI 2.1 and better colour out of the box right? I'm worried about colour calibarting the U7G as I'm not really an expert in these things.
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post Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Zackychan @ Jan 23 2022, 01:28 AM)
I see. Many thanks for your answer. I don't multiplayer games much, more of a singleplayer + couch coop with my wife. I just want to see if I able to play Doom on my PS5 with 120fps with the tv. So no MEMC for gaming, only for watching movie got it.
Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

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Also, would you prefer Sony X90J over Hisense U7G? I'm contemplating these two. Although the Sony X90J has no VRR atm, at least it has HDMI 2.1 and better colour out of the box right? I'm worried about colour calibarting the U7G as I'm not really an expert in these things.
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If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.


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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If  professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.
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Writesimply, you really know your stuff! Do you work in the A/V industry or have a pro HT set up at home?
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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 24 2022, 10:45 AM)
Writesimply, you really know your stuff! Do you work in the A/V industry or have a pro HT set up at home?
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Just a hobbyist in the content creation industry. No and no.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If  professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.
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Thanks a lot, man. I just pulled a trigger with 55" Samsung QN90A at a hefty discount. I heard that all of the models are using IPS in MY but I guess this is probably the best one I can get with my budget. Hope for no buyer's remorse.
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QUOTE(Zackychan @ Jan 25 2022, 01:18 PM)
Thanks a lot, man. I just pulled a trigger with 55" Samsung QN90A at a hefty discount. I heard that all of the models are using IPS in MY but I guess this is probably the best one I can get with my budget. Hope for no buyer's remorse.
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Most often the buyer's remorse is "I should've gotten the bigger TV."

Enjoy your TV!

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hi guys,
any recommended HK drama app and live tv channel app on hisense TV?

some popular app like rss player etc is not suitable with hisense tv.

thanks
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
Couch coop TV requirement is to get the biggest TV within your budget. PS5 Doom in 120 fps would be nice but not with the U7G, at least the international version.

If you have the budget for a 65" X90J, then go for that.

Hisense 2021 lineup is not for the high-end 4K market. They left that to go with 8K TVs and I don't know if that strategy is working for them. The U7G is for the mid-end market, for people who want quantum dot, FALD panels but not pay through the nose for it.

Many professional reviewers have said that X90J have better color accuracy out of the box. For average users, they won't know the difference. Most TVs sold at retail, including the big brands, are set at the Dynamic mode as their retail mode. Most users who set their TVs at home seem to prefer the garish dynamic look.

The X90J has better color accuracy. It doesn't have the quantum dot filter, which means it doesn't have a wider color gamut, for forever. You can't retrofit the quantum dot filter to it. The U7G has WCG out of the box. You can get the U7G professionally calibrated but...

Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months. If  professional equipment needs recalibrating, consumer grade equipment needs them too.

So what does this all mean? If you label yourself as demanding color accuracy, you need to tinker with your TV. Get a colorimeter - they usually come with the proper software -, find out your TV's secret menu and calibrate according to the schedule. If you are just an average user, you can use the AVS HD 709 videos and a blue filter to calibrate your TV.

If you just care about brands and models, then a mid-end Chinese brand is definitely not for you.
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Hi ,may I ask u if between this few model which is more suitable to pair with PS5? My max budget is 4.5k for 65"

SONY X80J, X85J , Hisense U7G

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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ Feb 23 2022, 08:32 AM)
Hi ,may I ask u if between this few model which is more suitable to pair with PS5? My max budget is 4.5k for 65"
SONY X80J, X85J , Hisense U7G
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U7G - FALD with 60Hz VA panel
X85 - non-FALD 120Hz VA panel
X80 - non-FALD 60Hz IPS panel

Look at RTing's comparison of X80 and X85.

If you're going to game a lot, like 80% of the time, I suppose the X85 for the 120Hz panel. No game, PC or console, will have enough GPU power - as of 2022 - to give you high-res texture and ray-tracing that you would get when gaming at 1080p/1440p at 120Hz.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Feb 23 2022, 11:42 AM)
U7G - FALD with 60Hz VA panel
X85 - non-FALD 120Hz VA panel
X80 - non-FALD 60Hz IPS panel

Look at RTing's comparison of X80 and X85.

If you're going to game a lot, like 80% of the time, I suppose the X85 for the 120Hz panel. No game, PC or console, will have enough GPU power - as of 2022 - to give you high-res texture and ray-tracing that you would get when gaming at 1080p/1440p at 120Hz.
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I think gaming maybe around 20%-30% of the time only. Most of the time will be drama/YouTube and movie once a week sometimes no.

Beside these model any comment on TCL C725?

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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ Feb 23 2022, 03:17 PM)
I think gaming maybe around  20%-30% of the time only. Most of the time will be drama/YouTube and movie once a week sometimes no.
Well since this is the Hisense thread... You may want to look into the U7G for its FALD feature and Quantum dot. Just make sure you have another Android device so that you can watch Disney+Hotstar, Apple TV and Amazon Prime. I don't know if the VIDAA store has them yet.

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Beside these model any comment on TCL C725?
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You can ask in the TCL thread. But I think the C725 is like the X80 - no FALD and 60Hz panel. The C725 has Quantum dot for a wider color gamut.

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Any other Hisense 65A7400F user in here having the same issue as mine?
Some images while playing fast-action videos is lagging. Quite badly I say

And it happens all the time, using the built-in Android and even PC connected to the screen

Also, why is the built-in Android in the A7400F displaying at 1080P instead of 4K?
I can only utilize 4K when there's another device connected to the TV through HDMI (PC/External Android Box/PS5)

Bought mine in 2021. If I'm the only 1 having this issue, I still have some time to RMA it

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jul 30 2021, 08:58 AM)
Turning MEMC OFF is better than having it on when watching anime which would introduce artifacts
Do you see the artifacts only when watching animes or other fast-moving videos too?
Haven't tried disabling the MEMC, will try it when I get home

The artifacts are really annoying vmad.gif

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Feb 23 2022, 11:42 AM)
No game, PC or console, will have enough GPU power - as of 2022 - to give you high-res texture and ray-tracing that you would get when gaming at 1080p/1440p at 120Hz.

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Nope. You can't play at 120Hz at 4K. This is a similar situation back in 2006 with PS3 displaying games at 720p and upconverted them to 10800p while the PC version displays it natively at 1080p. Except that most games on PCs can't do 120Hz in 4K and show high level of details and apply ray tracing anyway. If you intend to play competitively at 120Hz, get a 120Hz monitor.


Hello DLSS ?

Looks like someone is a little out of touch with the Gaming industry too thesedays . Not that he was " up to date " with the TV's one to begin with .



QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
Most people don't know that calibrated TVs are meant to be watched in dim rooms, something not practiced in most living rooms. They also don't know that it's not a one-time thing. 

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You are no calibrator obviously , why are you speaking for the party now ?

They don't know because there is no such rule .

Calibrating TV is not the same as mastering a movie in a grading suite .
If you are doing it for a living , it is your job to calibrate the TV to match the lighting environment of your client , be it a Bright or Dim room , not the other way around .


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In professional settings, TVs and monitors for film/TV production work are meant to be re-calibrated every 3-6 months.


No , because if that was the case Disney would have re-mastered all of their Star Wars movies again and again for millions of times .

I sincerely don't think you understand the work of Colorist vs Calibrator , while they share some knowledges in the industry their scope of work is entirely different.


Again , please do not speak on things you do not have any clue on . It is almost like a cult here .

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