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TSwritesimply
post Jan 6 2022, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(PROVIDA2U @ Dec 28 2021, 05:10 PM)
yesterday check with hisense malaysia, malaysia model mostly no 120hz. dont get wrong unit.

only model with 120hz is U900KF
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Correct. Hisense International's decision making about 120Hz and HDMI 2.1 decision for international units is stupid. But what can you do.

On the other hand, 120Hz is not really necessary. 60Hz panels that can handle 24 fps have been around since the early days of 720p LCD TVs, which is some 15 years ago. 120Hz panel makes the process of smoothing the judder a little easier. Basically, the world didn't go blind or mad with 60Hz panels.

Gamers who play competitively online know that, at least with current GPU/CPU capability, they can't have the 120Hz 4K experience with all the texture details. 120Hz in 4K with low details, that's possible. It's like gaming in 720p vs 1080p in 2006.

Meanwhile, at CES 2022 Hisense announced some interesting stuff. The new TV models won't arrive until May or June this year. If Hisense International is predictable, only North America will get the best models with the best tech and the best prices.

URL=https://shopee.com.my/Hisense-55-65-4K-UHD-ULED-Smart-TV-(U7G-Series)-i.26899469.10067959502]Anyway, this Shopee seller based in Seremban is selling the 65" U7G for RM3,900.[/URL] Best deal for this size so far.
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post Jan 17 2022, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(GuyM @ Dec 23 2021, 04:20 PM)
If you guys can live without dolby vision on Netflix and Disney+ I supposed it's OK although most new movies and series are in DV
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Hi there - Hisense A6500G is android tv and you are saying it does not have Disney+ ? Is that correct?
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post Jan 17 2022, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 17 2022, 11:43 AM)
Hi there - Hisense A6500G is android tv and you are saying it does not have Disney+ ? Is that correct?
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You quoted me talking about the A6100G. Check Hisense Malaysia's own webpage on that.

As for A6500G, then Hisense confused itself. On this page, it lists the A6500G has Dolby Vision. But when you go to the actual A6500G page, it says it doesn't.

This problem seems not to be isolated. Hisense Thailand lists the A6500G as having Local Dimming. But the Thai manual does say the A6500G has Dolby Vision based on the Dolby logos at the end of the manual.

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post Jan 17 2022, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 17 2022, 12:16 PM)
You quoted me talking about the A6100G. Check Hisense Malaysia's own webpage on that.

As for A6500G, then Hisense confused itself. On this page, it lists the A6500G has Dolby Vision. But when you go to the actual A6500G page, it says it doesn't.

This problem seems not to be isolated. Hisense Thailand lists the A6500G as having Local Dimming. But the Thai manual does say the A6500G has Dolby Vision based on the Dolby logos at the end of the manual.
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Ah, sorry about that. A6500G runs android 9.0 therefore should have disney +. Or so I hope.
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post Jan 17 2022, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 17 2022, 03:36 PM)
Ah, sorry about that. A6500G runs android 9.0 therefore should have disney +. Or so I hope.
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TVs using Android OS can install Disney+ Hotstar and/or Disney+. You just have to use your Google account to set it up.

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post Jan 17 2022, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 17 2022, 05:15 PM)
TVs using Android OS can install Disney+ Hotstar and/or Disney+. You just have to use your Google account to set it up.
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Thanks for the feedback.

Do you have any experience in using the aforementioned a6500G Hisense model? I've not been able to find much info. It will be mostly used for Astro and I am wondering how well it will upscale SD content.
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post Jan 18 2022, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 17 2022, 06:36 PM)
Do you have any experience in using the aforementioned a6500G Hisense model? I've not been able to find much info. It will be mostly used for Astro and I am wondering how well it will upscale SD content.
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I don't have any experience with the A6500G.

It's 2022. LCD TVs have been around for over 20 years. TVs from the last 10 years would not screw up upscaling standard definition content. Whatever deficiencies you see in the image is the result of them being in standard definition. The lack of detail and color is still going to be there, just made bigger with the bigger screen. If you want to have an idea of what that looks like, just watch any music videos from the 90s that are not remastered to 1080p or 4K.

For example, Freedom 90 by George Michael. Shot on 35mm by David Fincher.


This version is mastered in standard definition at 480p. Betacam was the best they could do at the time to get it to cable and broadcast TV.


This version is mastered from the original 35mm neg to 4K. I'm sure they scanned it at higher than 4K and then printed the final video back to 35mm for archival purposes.

So don't worry too much about standard definition content on 4K TVs.

You said it in another thread that you want a TV to give to your mother-in-law. Most probably she won't notice much differences. Only you would be maybe notice it. If she actually can differentiate between OLED, QLED, local dimming and micro dimming, then you shouldn't be looking to buy her the A6500G.


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post Jan 18 2022, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 18 2022, 12:09 PM)
I don't have any experience with the A6500G.

It's 2022. LCD TVs have been around for over 20 years. TVs from the last 10 years would not screw up upscaling standard definition content. Whatever deficiencies you see in the image is the result of them being in standard definition. The lack of detail and color is still going to be there, just made bigger with the bigger screen. If you want to have an idea of what that looks like, just watch any music videos from the 90s that are not remastered to 1080p or 4K.

For example, Freedom 90 by George Michael. Shot on 35mm by David Fincher.


This version is mastered in standard definition at 480p. Betacam was the best they could do at the time to get it to cable and broadcast TV.


This version is mastered from the original 35mm neg to 4K. I'm sure they scanned it at higher than 4K and then printed the final video back to 35mm for archival purposes.

So don't worry too much about standard definition content on 4K TVs.

You said it in another thread that you want a TV to give to your mother-in-law. Most probably she won't notice much differences. Only you would be maybe notice it. If she actually can differentiate between OLED, QLED, local dimming and micro dimming, then you shouldn't be looking to buy her the A6500G.
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So to be fair, i know diff TV's use diff chips which upscale the content different / better. So just want to get the right model that upscales well or best.
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post Jan 19 2022, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 18 2022, 01:01 PM)
So to be fair, i know diff TV's use diff chips which upscale the content different / better. So just want to get the right model that upscales well or best.
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With the A6500G, you're not going to get the best because it's an entry level model. This is true if you buy from Hisense or Samsung. The better the processing, the higher the model in their range and the higher the price.

Upscaling is not just about the chip. It's all the related software that goes into processing the image. Different manufacturers have different ways of making it work.

RTings.com has published an article about upscaling tests they have conducted. You can see how each TV performs and how the higher their performance is, the higher level their product number and the bigger the price.The A6500G is not there obviously because RTings is in Canada. The closest in spec terms is the A6G.

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post Jan 19 2022, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 19 2022, 11:41 AM)
With the A6500G, you're not going to get the best because it's an entry level model. This is true if you buy from Hisense or Samsung. The better the processing, the higher the model in their range and the higher the price.

Upscaling is not just about the chip. It's all the related software that goes into processing the image. Different manufacturers have different ways of making it work.

RTings.com has published an article about upscaling tests they have conducted. You can see how each TV performs and how the higher their performance is, the higher level their product number and the bigger the price.The A6500G is not there obviously because RTings is in Canada. The closest in spec terms is the A6G.
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So after much deliberation, I opted for an LG. Reason is my mum in law is sceptical of unknown brands. However, thanks so much for the info.

I however am thinking of the A6500G 65 inch s it's going for 3.2k. Quite a steal for that size and features.

My heart however wants something more.....monster....hahaha.....LG C1
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post Jan 19 2022, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 19 2022, 06:52 PM)
My heart however wants something more.....monster....hahaha.....LG C1
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If you can afford it, go for it.

You can get a 65" U7G for RM3900. So go for that instead of the A6500G.

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post Jan 20 2022, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 19 2022, 09:56 PM)
If you can afford it, go for it.

You can get a 65" U7G for RM3900. So go for that instead of the A6500G.
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unfortunately its not an android os
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post Jan 20 2022, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 20 2022, 10:05 AM)
unfortunately its not an android os
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You can get a Tivo Stream 4K for RM210. The total cost is still cheaper than any other 65" FALD Android TVs.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 20 2022, 12:53 PM)
You can get a Tivo Stream 4K for RM210. The total cost is still cheaper than any other 65" FALD Android TVs.
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Hey, very good point! However since I plug it in to the box, do I loose some of the features of the main tv? like all the software features?
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post Jan 20 2022, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 20 2022, 01:05 PM)
Hey, very good point! However since I plug it in to the box, do I loose some of the features of the main tv? like all the software features?
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What software features specifically? On the TV or on the Tivo?

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post Jan 20 2022, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jan 20 2022, 03:43 PM)
What software features specifically? On the TV or on the Tivo?
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The TV
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post Jan 21 2022, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 20 2022, 04:41 PM)
The TV
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On any input, including OTA broadcast, the TV would still work as it should. HDR, Dolby Vision, local dimming, audio would still work as it should.

This is no different if you plug in a different PC to the same PC monitor. It'll work as it should.

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post Jan 21 2022, 03:41 PM

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Any real-life reviews of the MY/SEA version of 65U7G?

The current price point of RM 3,900 is quite near the Sony X85J of RM 4,300. Considering either 2 of these models or whether to splurge more for the Sony X90J (RM 5,900)

Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdiUXc4fpo...nnel=AdamLoboTV

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post Jan 21 2022, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Iylia @ Jan 21 2022, 03:41 PM)
Any real-life reviews of the MY/SEA version of 65U7G?

The current price point of RM 3,900 is quite near the Sony X85J of RM 4,300. Considering either 2 of these models or whether to splurge more for the Sony X90J (RM 5,900)

Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdiUXc4fpo...nnel=AdamLoboTV
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Incremental increases in price always lead back to.....going for the best one. LG A1 65 inch is going for 7k+.
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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ Jan 19 2022, 06:52 PM)
So after much deliberation, I opted for an LG. Reason is my mum in law is sceptical of unknown brands.  However, thanks so much for the info.

I however am thinking of the A6500G 65 inch s it's going for 3.2k. Quite a steal for that size and features.

My heart however wants something more.....monster....hahaha.....LG C1
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No... did TV price went back up? I think this model similar to my 2020 A7400F which I got for RM2.5K. Dolby Vision, Android TV9, MEMC.

I think A6500G also can get below RM3k if you are patient enough.

QUOTE(Iylia @ Jan 21 2022, 03:41 PM)
Any real-life reviews of the MY/SEA version of 65U7G?

The current price point of RM 3,900 is quite near the Sony X85J of RM 4,300. Considering either 2 of these models or whether to splurge more for the Sony X90J (RM 5,900)

Saw this review on YouTube which was quite positive (although may be sponsored)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdiUXc4fpo...nnel=AdamLoboTV
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No... dont compare them together.

SEA U7G is not the same as those in US, ours dont have 120Hz. If you dont mind 120Hz, then the choice is yours. You should buy last month when I shared the 12.12 Lazada deal for X90J. Bought one for RM5k with free tv bracket.

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