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post Apr 29 2021, 06:27 PM, updated 3y ago

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Interestingly, a number of countries with smaller population sizes have a high GDP per capita. For example, Iceland makes the top 10 at $57,189, but the island’s population is only around 342,000 people. Similarly, Luxembourg’s population is just under 633,000—but it’s the richest country in the world on a per capita basis.

Here’s a look at some of the top industries in the next five richest countries:

Luxembourg:
Banking and financial services

Switzerland:
Banking and financial services, agriculture

Ireland:
Natural resources (including agriculture, fisheries, forestry, and mining), pharmaceuticals

Norway:
Oil and gas, hydropower, seafood

US:
Real estate, healthcare, technology

Singapore:
Financial services, manufacturing, oil and gas

The world’s wealthiest economies will likely remain on top for the foreseeable future, though some may experience plateauing growth. In Japan, for example, the domestic market is beginning to shrink due to an aging population.

Regardless, the wealth of these countries today is astounding, with the richest country in the world having a GDP per capita of 415x more than the poorest country in the world.


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Wah diao Luxembourg ppl average 100k?
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Ireland should only refer to the Republic and not Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK.
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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Apr 29 2021, 06:34 PM)
Ireland should only refer to the Republic and not Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK.
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Also very infiltrated by helang CECAs nowadays. Once population explodes wealth will shrink.
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QUOTE(drug5 @ Apr 29 2021, 06:30 PM)
Wah diao Luxembourg ppl average 100k?
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USD$110k/yr average income.

That's ~MYR$450k/year based on USD$1=MYR4.1

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Apr 29 2021, 06:38 PM)
USD$110k/yr average income.

That's ~MYR$450k/year based on USD$1=MYR4.1
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Richer than 99.9% msian
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Richer than 99.9% msian
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Interesting quote by the article:

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Interestingly, a number of countries with smaller population sizes have a high GDP per capita.



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Ireland used to be a poor and backward country. Look how quickly you develop when are you will to have an open mind. Crazy to see them in no 3 is this even accurate?

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Ireland used to be a poor and back religious country. They went from being a strict white Catholic society to a open liberal country with the gay son of an Indian immigrant as PM. Look how quickly you develop when you open your mind.  Crazy to see them in no 3 is this even accurate?
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The last decade lots of rich CECAs actually migrated there and settled down.

Their culture is mabuk todi culture. Really every meal is not a meal without Guinness!

Leo Varadkar, First Indian-Origin Prime Minister of Ireland
https://www.india.com/news/india/leo-varadk...-visit-3893170/

Indians again are laying claims over that country now.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Apr 29 2021, 06:52 PM)
The last decade lots of rich CECAs actually migrated there and settled down.

Their culture is mabuk todi culture. Really every meal is not a meal without Guinness!

Leo Varadkar, First Indian-Origin Prime Minister of Ireland
https://www.india.com/news/india/leo-varadk...-visit-3893170/

Indians again are laying claims over that country now.
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I know some people from there. In the 1950s it was supposedly a very backward place. Look like they really overhauled things.

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Apr 29 2021, 06:38 PM)
USD$110k/yr average income.

That's ~MYR$450k/year based on USD$1=MYR4.1
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Tats fucking lots of money.

But I guess their cost of living also high 99
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Wah I google image Luxembourg city, their city don't even looks like city at all
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 29 2021, 07:08 PM)
Wah I google image Luxembourg city, their city don't even looks like city at all
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You think rich is all about skyscrapers and ugly mega complexes.

The rich doesn't view those structures as necessity. They wish for long life so that they can enjoy their riches, clean unpolluted surroundings, good health, organic foods and serenity.

Not megacities for the rat races which is not for people to live one.
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QUOTE(drug5 @ Apr 29 2021, 06:57 PM)
Tats fucking lots of money.

But I guess their cost of living also high 99
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Perhaps the real estate is, lots of castles and medieval buildings. Food is not so, eg McDonald meal ard Euro10 ish a few years back.
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Ireland’s gdp per capita is inflated by the MNCs that exploit the tax regime there.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 29 2021, 07:08 PM)
Wah I google image Luxembourg city, their city don't even looks like city at all
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Apr 29 2021, 07:15 PM)
You think rich is all about skyscrapers and ugly mega complexes.

The rich doesn't view those structures as necessity. They wish for long life so that they can enjoy their riches, clean unpolluted surroundings, good health, organic foods and serenity.

Not megacities for the rat races which is not for people to live one.
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Meanwhile in KL...constructing ridiculously tall skyscrapers (we all know which) funded by corruption and bribery without an economy to show for it. Big joke. Really shameless man.


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QUOTE(Thirmaha @ Apr 30 2021, 12:01 AM)
Meanwhile in KL...constructing ridiculously tall skyscrapers (we all know which) funded by corruption and bribery without an economy to show for it. Big joke. Really shameless man.
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Why China not on this list?

Inb4 HK is China

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Lux & Swiss basically money laundering
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Apr 30 2021, 03:40 AM)
Lux & Swiss basically money laundering
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Singapore too, swiss of asia
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Apr 30 2021, 03:40 AM)
Lux & Swiss basically money laundering
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QUOTE(eaglefly @ Apr 30 2021, 03:49 AM)
Singapore too, swiss of asia
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This...
But Singapore can say is because good governance..until someone spill the bean then they will take action like 1MDB
Other unnoticed money laundry..they sapu aje..
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This...
But Singapore can say is because good governance..until someone spill the bean then they will take action like 1MDB
Other unnoticed money laundry..they sapu aje..
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Lol. Thrse countries are amongst the least corrupted in the world:

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2020/index

If they are money laundering centres, the rest of the world must be cesspools.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Apr 30 2021, 05:43 AM)
Lol. Thrse countries are amongst the least corrupted in the world:

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2020/index

If they are money laundering centres, the rest of the world must be cesspools.
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Are you stupid?

If you write in law taking bribe is legal, your corruption immediately drop to zero

That's exactly what happens in the banking and financial sector of these countries
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These whole thing is lanjiao sohai. Go and have a look how much tax rate for Eur 100k p.a. at 39 percent. Dont forgot, tax money paid for homeless people who refused to work. Syukur lah, malaysia tax rate is way lower than that.

We all like to convert in malaysia ringgit. But in real world, you will not be doing it.
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Apr 30 2021, 05:51 AM)
Are you stupid?

If you write in law taking bribe is legal, your corruption immediately drop to zero

That's exactly what happens in the banking and financial sector of these countries
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Show me or show me u r an idiot again.
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Of course Singapore is rich...If I take Klang Valley as the only sample size for this study, I'm sure 'Malaysia' will be top 10 as well?

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Sgs govt alone has about USD 1 trillion to 1.5 trillion in cash and assets. Switzerlabd has USD 1 trillion in foreign reserves. More than size, these countries have tons of money.
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QUOTE(mitun @ Apr 29 2021, 06:48 PM)
Ireland used to be a poor and back religious country. They went from being a strict white Catholic society to a open liberal country with the gay son of an Indian immigrant as PM. Look how quickly you develop when you open your mind.  Crazy to see them in no 3 is this even accurate?
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lmao.. what nonsense. As per usual, liberal want to claim everything as their own doing. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Apr 30 2021, 09:28 AM)
Sgs govt alone has about USD 1 trillion to 1.5 trillion in cash and assets. Switzerlabd has USD 1 trillion in foreign reserves. More than size, these countries have tons of money.
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small country hoarding all of the wealth. Like selfish little pricks that they are.

Swiss & SG are well known place where the mega rich hide their wealth.
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Ireland’s gdp per capita is inflated by the MNCs that exploit the tax regime there.
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yup.


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Which GDP is this though?

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 10:19 AM)
small country hoarding all of the wealth. Like selfish little pricks that they are.

Swiss & SG are well known place where the mega rich hide their wealth.
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Better than an elite in a certain country which hoardes and squanders wealth at the rakyats expense. Thats not selfish. Thats suicidal and naive.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Apr 30 2021, 10:35 AM)
Which GDP is this though?

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in theory both approaches would result in the same gdp right..but in real world might be different
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Better than an elite in a certain country which hoardes and squanders wealth at the rakyats expense. Thats not selfish. Thats suicidal and naive.
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Where you get that assumption from?

Now let me ask you back, in SG can average salaryman own a car? Can own private condo or even landed prop?

How many SG citizen getting paid 6 figure wage? Do you eat good food everyday? Everyday eating $3 SGD chap fan only right. tongue.gif

If the elites are hoarding all of the wealth in Malaysia, then how can Malaysians afford their own landed freehold property, cars, and have 6 figure salary?



This chart is purely masturbatory & penis measuring material only. To make your ego feel good only.

What actually matters is whether ownership of important things like your own freehold home, car and more are AFFORDABLE in your own nation. Who gives a fuck about what lexembourg makes?

Go back home to your rented HDB room that is costing you 40% of your monthly income and you sharing with a stranger and cry me a river la..

hoarding wealth.. Elites in Malaysia are hoarding wealth kononnya. LOL.

Please go take a good hard look at SG first to see what hoarding wealth truly looks like. Go ask your SG PM how he know what living in 2 room HDB flat and taking MRT everyday in Ang Mo Kio feels like when he got a private chauffer and stay in a large mansion that can easily fit a full block of 100s of 4 room HDB flats! lmao..

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 11:09 AM)
Where you get that assumption from?

Now let me ask you back, in SG can average salaryman own a car? Can own private condo or even landed prop?

How many SG citizen getting paid 6 figure wage? Do you eat good food everyday? Everyday eating $3 SGD chap fan only right. tongue.gif

If the elites are hoarding all of the wealth in Malaysia, then how can Malaysians afford their own landed freehold property, cars, and have 6 figure salary?
This chart is purely masturbatory & penis measuring material only. To make your ego feel good only.

What actually matters is whether ownership of important things like your own freehold home, car and more are AFFORDABLE in your own nation. Who gives a fuck about what lexembourg makes?

Go back home to your 2room flat HDB and cry me a river la..
Elite in malaysia hoarding wealth. LOL. Go look at SG first to see what hoarding wealth truly looks like. Go ask your SG PM how he know what living in 2 room HDB in Ang Mo Kio feels like when he stay in a large mansion that can easily fit 17 numbers of 4 room HDB flats! lmao..
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Rubbish.

Thats deliberate. Cars are intentionally made expensive in Sg and freehold homes are nearly non existent given its size. Purchasing parity wise the average Sgrean still earns and can afford more than the average msian. Why is the flow of tourists coming from Sg to Msia?

The elites in Msia are certainly hoarding wealth. Finish the the 1mdb case first and tell me otherwise.

The Sg pm stays in large mansion because he is paid a lot as part of his salary. Certain Msian politicians who generally earn peanuts also stay in palaces with multitudes of cars.

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Rubbish.

Thats deliberate. Cars are intentionally made expensive in Sg and freehold homes are nearly non existent given its size. Purchasing parity wise the average Sgrean still earns and can afford more than the average msian. Why is the flow of tourists coming from Sg to Msia?

The elites in Msia are certainly hoarding wealth. Finish the the 1mdb case first and tell me otherwise.

The Sg pm stays in large mansion because he is paid a lot as part of his salary. Certain Msian politicians who generally earn peanuts also stay in palaces with multitudes of cars.
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Intentionally made expensive to keep the plebs like you separated from the elite and wealthy. tongue.gif How cruel of them..

Even Malaysians can drive their own car, & own their own house. At least the elites don't hoard wealth in Malaysia..

Status & class difference in SG is so real and felt, it's not even a joke.. Driving a car allows you to travel more conveniently and faster. Time is the most valuable resource in the world.

Take a walk along Bukit Timah road and you can feel like you living in a different country than the rest of SG. Please go back to your rented HDB room and cry a river la..

Too bad a pleb like you will never be able to afford a car or even a private condo in SG.. But don't let that stop you from plotek the elite and wealthy in SG. lel. tongue.gif

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Intentionally made expensive to keep the plebs like you separated from the elite and wealthy.  tongue.gif How cruel of them..

Even Malaysians can drive their own car, & own their own house. At least the elites don't hoard wealth in Malaysia..

Status & class difference in SG is so real and felt, it's not even a joke.. Driving a car allows you to travel more conveniently and faster. Time is the most valuable resource in the world.

Take a walk along Bukit Timah road and you can feel like you living in a different country than the rest of SG. Please go back to your rented HDB room and cry a river la..

Too bad a pleb like you will never be able to afford a car or even a private condo in SG.. But don't let that stop you from plotek the elite and wealthy in SG. lel. tongue.gif
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More rubbish! It is intentional and consequential because Sg is a little red dot so cars and freehold land become de facto controlled items. However, Sgrean still earn more and can buy more especially in other countries because their purchasing power and incomes are higher. That is also the reason why folks like you come to Sg to work! And what is convenient is subjective. In Sg, you can get to work faster by public commute at times because of the traffic snarl. Michael Bloomberg takes the train to work!

Status and class difference is more keenly felt in Msia. It is everywhere. In the mad rush for titles Datos, etc., fake certs and yes, the hoarding of wealth through illegal means - how else can the elite compete if not by cheating. If the size of your loo matters so much, the vast plains of Africa show that the indigenous tribesman is richer than you because they can defecate anywhere.

I do not need to walk down bukit timah. Im a successful EP and rent a condo here. My "mansion" is in Iskandar. I leave my beemer there too. Unlike you, I do not need to travel to and from Msia. That is for folks like you.


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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 11:32 AM)
Intentionally made expensive to keep the plebs like you separated from the elite and wealthy.  tongue.gif How cruel of them..

Even Malaysians can drive their own car, & own their own house. At least the elites don't hoard wealth in Malaysia..

Status & class difference in SG is so real and felt, it's not even a joke.. Driving a car allows you to travel more conveniently and faster. Time is the most valuable resource in the world.

Take a walk along Bukit Timah road and you can feel like you living in a different country than the rest of SG. Please go back to your rented HDB room and cry a river la..

Too bad a pleb like you will never be able to afford a car or even a private condo in SG.. But don't let that stop you from plotek the elite and wealthy in SG. lel. tongue.gif
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You go back to Malaysia

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More rubbish! It is intentional and consequential because Sg is a little red dot so cars and freehold land become de facto controlled items. However, Sgrean still earn more and can buy more especially in other countries because their purchasing power and incomes are higher. That is also the reason why folks like you come to Sg to work! And what is convenient is subjective. In Sg, you can get to work faster by public commute at times because of the traffic snarl. Michael Bloomberg takes the train to work!

Status and class difference is more keenly felt in Msia. It is everywhere. In the mad rush for titles Datos, etc., fake certs and yes, the hoarding of wealth through illegal means - how else can the elite compete if not by cheating. If the size of your loo matters so much, the vast plains of Africa show that the indigenous tribesman is richer than you because they can defecate anywhere.

I do not need to walk down bukit timah. Im a successful EP and rent a condo here. My "mansion" is in Iskandar. I leave my beemer there too. Unlike you, I do not need to travel to and from Msia. That is for folks like you.
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You migrate to Singapore.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Apr 30 2021, 12:04 PM)
More rubbish! It is intentional and consequential because Sg is a little red dot so cars and freehold land become de facto controlled items. However, Sgrean still earn more and can buy more especially in other countries because their purchasing power and incomes are higher. That is also the reason why folks like you come to Sg to work! And what is convenient is subjective. In Sg, you can get to work faster by public commute at times because of the traffic snarl. Michael Bloomberg takes the train to work!

Status and class difference is more keenly felt in Msia. It is everywhere. In the mad rush for titles Datos, etc., fake certs and yes, the hoarding of wealth through illegal means - how else can the elite compete if not by cheating. If the size of your loo matters so much, the vast plains of Africa show that the indigenous tribesman is richer than you because they can defecate anywhere.

I do not need to walk down bukit timah. Im a successful EP and rent a condo here. My "mansion" is in Iskandar. I leave my beemer there too. Unlike you, I do not need to travel to and from Msia. That is for folks like you.
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Then make car ownership on a quota system & allocate ownership to the income earning bracket. So everyone has a decent chance to own a vehicle..

There is absolutely no reason at all to make cars in SG the most expensive in the world, other than to divide the rich from the poor. SG is so cruel that essential thing like car ownership also they want only the super wealthy to be able to own..

Why you care so much about other nation income level when all that truly matters is whether or not things are affordable..

You left your mansion in Malaysia & bmw in malaysia. LOL, why not own it in SG? Because you can't afford it.. Thanks for supporting my point about affordability even further. The elites in SG are hoarding all of the wealth and making it hard for everyone else, including yourself. Even a "successful" EP holder like yourself can't even afford basic ownership in SG. You are a pleb who will take public transport and rent HDB room for life.

Meanwhile, those earning 10k RM a month in Malaysia, which is plenty of Malaysians above age 30, can easily afford their own landed house, bmw and more. tongue.gif

The class divide in SG is real. More real than anywhere else in the world.. All it takes is whether you drive a car in SG or not. Car is essential everywhere in the world, but SG already use it as weapon to divide classes.. tsk tsk tsk.
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You go back to Malaysia
You migrate to Singapore.

Jangan gaduh gaduh. u tak suka u kluar.  laugh.gif
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I am back in Malaysia. tongue.gif

But if you want to talk about rich hoarding all the wealth. SG is right at the top..
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Singapore Oil n Gas.. topkek Liamness
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They had modern oil refining facilities left by the British. This was what the Japanese were after in WW2 and avoided damaging.

Of course that by itself is not sufficient, they worked on it and expanded it to their current facilities in Jurong
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Country that small probably production. Probably lar i never google. But we do source some specific raw materials from Luxembourg companies.
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They had modern oil refining facilities left by the British. This was what the Japanese were after in WW2 and avoided damaging.

Of course that by itself is not sufficient, they worked on it and expanded it to their current facilities in Jurong
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LKY planned to break away from Malaysia from the start.. He wanted to hoard all of the assets that the British left behind all for himself and his small little island.

He couldn't care about Malaysia one bit and used them to gain independence from the British. SG as a nation, was always going to succeed given how well supported it was from the beginning.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 12:26 PM)
Then make car ownership on a quota system & allocate ownership to the income earning bracket. So everyone has a decent chance to own a vehicle..

There is absolutely no reason at all to make cars in SG the most expensive in the world, other than to divide the rich from the poor. SG is so cruel that essential thing like car ownership also they want only the super wealthy to be able to own..

Why you care so much about other nation income level when all that truly matters is whether or not things are affordable..

You left your mansion in Malaysia & bmw in malaysia. LOL, why not own it in SG?  Because you can't afford it.. Thanks for supporting my point about affordability even further. The elites in SG are hoarding all of the wealth and making it hard for everyone else, including yourself. Even a "successful" EP holder like yourself can't even afford basic ownership in SG. You are a pleb who will take public transport and rent HDB room for life.

Meanwhile, those earning 10k RM a month in Malaysia, which is plenty of Malaysians above age 30, can easily afford their own landed house, bmw and more.  tongue.gif

The class divide in SG is real. More real than anywhere else in the world.. All it takes is whether you drive a car in SG or not. Car is essential everywhere in the world, but SG already use it as weapon to divide classes.. tsk tsk tsk.
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Bullshit! That is a Msian cookie cutter ideology on proportionate allocation of entitlements. And the reason as to why progress is slow as otherwise be accorded by a more merit based system. And it reinforces the class mentality in Msia and why Msia is built like a pack of cards revolving around classes.

I dont know why you are so granular on classes- if youre left behind find a more equitable society to live in then to beg for income in a foreign land.

$10000 like ass. The majority of Msians are in B40, etc.

I do not need to buy a mansion in SG because I am not buying one in SG and renting a condo suffices.

Many of the elites in Msia are lazy and corrupted. Watch how wealth in Msia is gobbled up by the current generations with little left for future generations and supported by myopic citizenry like yourself focused on symbolic objects like cars.


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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 12:28 PM)
I am back in Malaysia.  tongue.gif

But if you want to talk about rich hoarding all the wealth. SG is right at the top..
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Too bad. Im earning more and more here. Msia is the poster boy for elites taking all the wealth.

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LKY planned to break away from Malaysia from the start.. He wanted to hoard all of the assets that the British left behind all for himself and his small little island.

He couldn't care about Malaysia one bit and used them to gain independence from the British. SG as a nation, was always going to succeed given how well supported it was from the beginning.
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Yes this I agree. Even some singaporean historians have noted him crying as a show, he and Goh Keng Swee had already been manouvering behind the scenes planning for this before hand.

And yes they will succeed, they had first world level infrastructure surrounded by resource rich but still lagging neighbours who cannot exploit them

But credit where its due, they expanded what they had many many times
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Yes this I agree. Even some singaporean historians have noted him crying as a show, he and Goh Keng Swee had already been manouvering behind the scenes planning for this before hand.

And yes they will succeed, they had first world level infrastructure surrounded by resource rich but still lagging neighbours who cannot exploit them

But credit where its due, they expanded what they had many many times
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And the laggards are still lagging!
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And the laggards are still lagging!
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Well thats for me to worry about i guess biggrin.gif Can only work hard and provide for my family
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Actually using per cap calculation

Qatar UAE. Etc is top.

Why? Bcs migrate workers from Bangla nepal all earn USD300 per month average out in computation for this purpose

Qatar migrate workers accounted for almost 70% population there.
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in theory both approaches would result in the same gdp right..but in real world might be different
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Yup you're right, if you look past the GDP numbers there are differences in the economic fundamentals of a consumption vs a production country.

Malaysia as is , is a consumption one. And the results? Low average wages for grads, lack of high paying jobs, wealth being pooled more at the top, certain industries still content on being low on the value chain.

A country with a relatively small population, we have to become a production economy. I remember this was the mantra of the govt 20 plus years ago. But i seldom read this anymore...its a shame really.
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Malaysia is in deep religious and race ego dilemma.
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Yup you're right, if you look past the GDP numbers there are differences in the economic fundamentals of a consumption vs a production country.

Malaysia as is , is a consumption one. And the results? Low average wages for grads, lack of high paying jobs, wealth being pooled more at the top, certain industries still content on being low on the value chain.

A country with a relatively small population, we have to become a production economy. I remember this was the mantra of the govt 20 plus years ago. But i seldom read this anymore...its a shame really.
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Yes it is sad. That is why grads are leaving Msia to work overseas.

This article sums it up:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commen...e-trap-11376622

Wealth continues to be pooled at the top by any means possible, especially illicit ways. Individuals who should not have a certain amount of wealth are flouting their ill-gotten goods . It is apparent to everyone.


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Oil and gas, hydropower, seafood.

Lel, We also have this, but wonder why we still B40 majority country.
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Yes this I agree. Even some singaporean historians have noted him crying as a show, he and Goh Keng Swee had already been manouvering behind the scenes planning for this before hand.

And yes they will succeed, they had first world level infrastructure surrounded by resource rich but still lagging neighbours who cannot exploit them

But credit where its due, they expanded what they had many many times
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exactly, which is why I will never attack Malaysia based on class or what not.

Especially when you come from a country like SG, which used Malaysians to get the resources and then selfishly, got out so that they can have it all for themselves.

And then we have so called 'successful EP' who think can look down on Malaysia from their 'Ivory tower'.

Classless elitist. After independence, the chances of SG failing was very low. Malaysians are too nice, allow LKY & SG to escape so easily.. They should have held firm onto SG, and slowly remove LKY from the picture. Where got nation so generous to give out their land freely, without any war..

Malaysians are too kind hearted. Kena betrayed by the real snake, LKY. mad.gif

And now, got Msians who think they have any right to kutuk Malaysia, just because they stay in rented share room in a HDB flat and living like a pleb in SG.

Really no face one those kinds..

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Yes it is sad. That is why grads are leaving Msia to work overseas.

This article sums it up:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commen...e-trap-11376622

Wealth continues to be pooled at the top by any means possible, especially illicit ways. Individuals who should not have a certain amount of wealth are flouting their ill-gotten goods . It is apparent to everyone.
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like how the rich in SG flaunt car ownership. tongue.gif

poor and middle class take public transport. Only rich can own car. doh.gif
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 30 2021, 12:50 PM)
Yup you're right, if you look past the GDP numbers there are differences in the economic fundamentals of a consumption vs a production country.

Malaysia as is , is a consumption one. And the results? Low average wages for grads, lack of high paying jobs, wealth being pooled more at the top, certain industries still content on being low on the value chain.

A country with a relatively small population, we have to become a production economy. I remember this was the mantra of the govt 20 plus years ago. But i seldom read this anymore...its a shame really.
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not true at all.. You are mistaking the role that consumption plays to a nations GDP.

USA are one of the biggest consumption countries in the world. And infact, they rightly want to be a consumption country. Because consuming, rather than saving and hoarding wealth is what spurs economic growth.

You only need to look at China to see what happens when people don't consume enough to support their local economy. China is lucky that there is a big country like USA who favours consumption and purchasing goods. The Chinese on the other hand, are forced to save money to invest in property. Because the prices are prohibitively expensive in China and you need to put a minimum 25% downpayment on first prop and a whooping 40% on 2nd prop or more.
People in China have no choice but to save every cent they make, killing industries because there isn't enough consumption.
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not true at all.. You are mistaking the role that consumption plays to a nations GDP.

USA are one of the biggest consumption countries in the world. And infact, they rightly want to be a consumption country. Because consuming, rather than saving and hoarding wealth is what spurs economic growth.

You only need to look at China to see what happens when people don't consume enough to support their local economy. China is lucky that there is a big country like USA who favours consumption and purchasing goods. The Chinese on the other hand, are forced to save money to invest in property. Because the prices are prohibitively expensive in China and you need to put a minimum 25% downpayment on first prop and a whooping 40% on 2nd prop or more.
People in China have no choice but to save every cent they make, killing industries because there isn't enough consumption.
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Well there will always be consumption in any economy, the issue is will it be a nett consumer or producer?

But USA is a developed country, and despite what we say about their SJW grads with a pretty decent human capital. They can afford to be a consumption based one what more with their population?

Us? We need to move to production based, our population is too small. Bigger than Singapore for sure but not as significant as our other neighbours

Not caring about China haha, dont live there. My hopes and aspirations rooted in this place I call home
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Too bad. Im earning more and more here. Msia is the poster boy for elites taking all the wealth.
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No you aren't.

You are just a kuli on an average salary, just like me. Just like every other salaryman in SG.

Let me remind you that you are talking to a SPR here.

I purposely moved back to Malaysia because I knew that my salary will never be enough to unlock the lifestyle that I wanted. Unless I come out and open up my own business, and carry the risk of being a businessman, no amount of pay bump or new job titles or company jumps will get me to 200k SGD or more.

Because that is the amount you need to make to truly enjoy a good life in SG..

Meanwhile, I've got myself nicely set up in KL and honestly, it's not that hard since the people I mingle with aren't like me. They derive an income by local means. Meanwhile, I'm just an average salaryman in SG. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 30 2021, 02:04 PM)
Well there will always be consumption in any economy, the issue is will it be a nett consumer or producer?

But USA is a developed country, and despite what we say about their SJW grads with a pretty decent human capital. They can afford to be a consumption based one what more with their population?

Us? We need to move to production based, our population is too small. Bigger than Singapore for sure but not as significant as our other neighbours

Not caring about China haha, dont live there. My hopes and aspirations rooted in this place I call home
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well, I've mentioned this before but the major shift that is required for Malaysia to break out of our middle income trap is the following:

1) Cut down on public holidays. Set a maximum of 12 public holiday per year. If you want to produce, you can't have whole population taking the day / entire week off.

2) Fix the traffic issues in KL. Propose a car ban heading into the CBD during peak hours. Or install gantry all over the major road, and charge very expensive prices to park in the city to discourage driving, and encourage office workers to take public transport to come to work instead. This is what Australians do. We should do the same too.

3) Encourage FDIs of certain key sectors like Tech & IT by giving huge tax breaks to invest into the local market. That's just a given. We need to be less greedy here and recognise that our neighbours have caught up and can offer the infrastructure & labour to support high tech industries. Foreign companies have options.

4) & finally, we need to ramp up our local RnD. We need to repurpose some of our universities into research university and make investments both local and private to every RnD we can do. New technology that is driven by us is our saviour. We will become a high income nation when we take this seriously and we push out thousands of approved patents to the international market every year. This was what saved the Koreans and got them out of the middle income trap.


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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Apr 30 2021, 12:42 PM)
Bullshit! That is a Msian cookie cutter ideology on proportionate allocation of entitlements. And the reason as to why progress is slow as otherwise be accorded by a more merit based system. And it reinforces the class mentality in Msia and why Msia is built like a pack of cards revolving around classes.

I dont know why you are so granular on classes- if youre left behind find a more equitable society to live in then to beg for income in a foreign land.

$10000 like ass. The majority of Msians are in B40, etc.

I do not need to buy a mansion in SG because I am not buying one in SG and renting a condo suffices.

Many of the elites in Msia are lazy and corrupted. Watch how wealth in Msia is gobbled up by the current generations with little left for future generations and supported by myopic citizenry like yourself focused on symbolic objects like cars.
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So you agree then that cars in SG have been used to WEAPONISE the classes. Since only the rich can afford car ownership in SG. biggrin.gif

In no other nation in the world is car used as a status symbol the way it is used in SG.

If car ownership was a huge problem, then why HK doesn't have such COE restriction on theirs? They are a small place too..

Infact, HK has a better model which is to charge more expensive price on parking. That makes alot more sense. In SG, the congestion is usually heading towards the City. Places like Jurong, or Changi where have jam at this location? There is no reason why those working in Changi or Jurong can't buy their own car to drive to work. It is very obvious that SG wants to make car ownership reserved for the rich.
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lmao.. what nonsense. As per usual, liberal want to claim everything as their own doing. tongue.gif
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It is a fact. Ireland was a backward and socially conservative country until it evolved in the 1980s to become a modern and progressive state. The culture of the country has evolved from being intolerant and isolationist to what it is today. You can't do that if you don't adopt liberal views. Not everything has to be seen in the context of the US conservative vs liberal dispute. Malaysia won't progress until it becomes more liberal either.
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It is a fact. Ireland was a backward and socially conservative country until it evolved in the 1980s to become a modern and progressive state. The culture of the country has evolved from being intolerant and isolationist to what it is today. You can't do that if you don't adopt liberal views. Not everything has to be seen in the context of the US conservative vs liberal dispute. Malaysia won't progress until it becomes more liberal either.
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What has making your country a tax free place where big companies like Apple, Amazon can park their HQ, and thus, get huge tax breaks gotta do with opening up to liberalism??

The connection is hardly there and you are just taking pot shot at conservatism for pot shot sake. There is no connection whatsoever to the rise of a country based upon being 'liberal'. Total and complete nonsense..
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What has making your country a tax free place where big companies like Apple, Amazon can park their HQ, and thus, get huge tax breaks gotta do with opening up to liberalism??

The connection is hardly there and you are just taking pot shot at conservatism for pot shot sake. There is no connection whatsoever to the rise of a country based upon being 'liberal'. Total and complete nonsense..
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The culture and mindset of the country has changed radically since the conservative pre 90s. If you don’t want to give credit to that for their success, or think it has any role, then it’s up to you. Conservative Ireland was by all accounts a very backward place. Liberal Ireland is what you see today. Make your own connection.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Apr 30 2021, 12:04 PM)
More rubbish! It is intentional and consequential because Sg is a little red dot so cars and freehold land become de facto controlled items. However, Sgrean still earn more and can buy more especially in other countries because their purchasing power and incomes are higher. That is also the reason why folks like you come to Sg to work! And what is convenient is subjective. In Sg, you can get to work faster by public commute at times because of the traffic snarl. Michael Bloomberg takes the train to work!

Status and class difference is more keenly felt in Msia. It is everywhere. In the mad rush for titles Datos, etc., fake certs and yes, the hoarding of wealth through illegal means - how else can the elite compete if not by cheating. If the size of your loo matters so much, the vast plains of Africa show that the indigenous tribesman is richer than you because they can defecate anywhere.

I do not need to walk down bukit timah. Im a successful EP and rent a condo here. My "mansion" is in Iskandar. I leave my beemer there too. Unlike you, I do not need to travel to and from Msia. That is for folks like you.
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QUOTE(mitun @ Apr 30 2021, 02:59 PM)
The culture and mindset of the country has changed radically since the conservative pre 90s. If you don’t want to give credit to that for their success, or think it has any role, then it’s up to you. Conservative Ireland was by all accounts a very backward place. Liberal Ireland is what you see today. Make your own connection.
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causation doesn't have any correlation here. Your link of liberalisation doesn't have anything to do with a country becoming richer..

It's the same thing, I can't say that thanks to conservatism, Saudi Aramco is the most profitable company in the world.. It's ridiculous to suggest that conservatism or libralism plays a role when it doesn't..

What matters is whether or not a country agrees to make their country tax free and attract big whales. There is no connection here in what you said..
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causation doesn't have any correlation here. Your link of liberalisation doesn't have anything to do with a country becoming richer..

It's the same thing, I can't say that thanks to conservatism, Saudi Aramco is the most profitable company in the world.. It's ridiculous to suggest that conservatism or libralism plays a role when it doesn't..

What matters is whether or not a country agrees to make their country tax free and attract big whales. There is no connection here in what you said..
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So how do explain the transition from a backward conservative culture when the country was poor to a liberal progressive culture when the country became richer and more successful? Coincidence?

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So how do explain the transition from a backward conservative culture when the country was poor to a liberal progressive culture when the country became richer and more successful? Coincidence?
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What's there to explain?

You are making an inaccurate correlation and simply slapping on 'backward' or 'progressive' whenever it suits your ideology..

When in actual fact, there is no correlation here. What you are saying is all conservative country is poor, when they aren't. Or vice versa..

Whether a country is rich or poor has nothing to do with their culture. It's to do with how industrious, ambitious, and smart their people are. Nothing more, nothing less.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 02:25 PM)
So you agree then that cars in SG have been used to WEAPONISE the classes. Since only the rich can afford car ownership in SG. biggrin.gif

In no other nation in the world is car used as a status symbol the way it is used in SG.

If car ownership was a huge problem, then why HK doesn't have such COE restriction on theirs? They are a small place too..

Infact, HK has a better model which is to charge more expensive price on parking. That makes alot more sense. In SG, the congestion is usually heading towards the City. Places like Jurong, or Changi where have jam at this location? There is no reason why those working in Changi or Jurong can't buy their own car to drive to work. It is very obvious that SG wants to make car ownership reserved for the rich.
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Quite the opposite. The MSRP of a cheap imported car into sg could be $30k, but due to taxes such as the ARF, COE, excise duty, GST, road tax, ERP, and petrol taxes, it can easily become $90k ++ variable costs. Owning a car which is completely unnecessary in SG is a luxury and inevitably used as a luxury symbol. It's not a weapon, it's the smartest way of imposing high taxes on the rich without them complaining. Sure, give you your syiok sendiri status symbol la, but you pay tax and we use it to build mrt and buy new buses for the masses. This technique is too high level for the fake cert kataks here.

Cheap car prices with expensive carparks is so stupid, you buy and don't use the car as much. Your country's imports go up because hk and sg don't make cars locally, causing leakage of dollars. You want to reduce imports increase exports so your dollar can be strong. If you become minister our country gg

Edit: also just think how smart they are, car manufacturer makes car until half die, 30k revenue, profit margin only 8 to 10 percent. So gross profit (not even net profit) about 2.8k to 3k. Sg govt made nothing, print paper only make 60k net profit.

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Quite the opposite. The MSRP of a cheap imported car into sg could be $30k, but due to taxes such as the ARF, COE, excise duty, GST, road tax, ERP, and petrol taxes, it can easily become $90k ++ variable costs. Owning a car which is completely unnecessary in SG is a luxury and inevitably used as a luxury symbol. It's not a weapon, it's the smartest way of imposing high taxes on the rich without them complaining. Sure, give you your syiok sendiri status symbol la, but you pay tax and we use it to build mrt and buy new buses for the masses. This technique is too high level for the fake cert kataks here.

Cheap car prices with expensive carparks is so stupid, you buy and don't use the car as much. Your country's imports go up because hk and sg don't make cars locally, causing leakage of dollars. You want to reduce imports increase exports so your dollar can be strong. If you become minister our country gg

Edit: also just think how smart they are, car manufacturer makes car until half die, 30k revenue, profit margin only 8 to 10 percent. So gross profit (not even net profit) about 2.8k to 3k. Sg govt made nothing, print paper only make 60k net profit.
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so then you agree that car isn't affordable in SG.

Hence, the class divide. It's very obvious that you are rich in SG simply because you own a vehicle.

Also, owning a vehicle is completely necessary and essential. FYI, I have a vehicle in Singapore. Partly funded by my work as I have to travel frequently across the Island to visit sites and my customers. Taking taxi or public transport is not feasible when you need to plan for 4, 5, sometimes even 6 visits per day up and down the island. Hence why I have my own vehicle. Time is of essence and you spend alot of time wasted on public transport. Regardless how efficient it is.. Case in point, it takes me 5 minutes to drive to my office from Changi airport. If I take public transport, that time is increased to 40 minutes..

Also, government smart or not, this isn't about intelligence at all..

It is about creating a society where the really rich & the poor/middle income is noticable. Nowhere in the world is this more evident than in Singapore.

You rich, you have a car. You poor/middle income, you take public transport. Be happy and deal with it.

I can see why SG is consistently voted as the most unhappy place to live. Simple enjoyment, like having your own vehicle also cannot. What kind of life is that? tongue.gif

I keep on stressing that the most important thing is how much is the affordability of things in the country, not how much income you make..

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 04:02 PM)
so then you agree that car isn't affordable in SG.

Hence, the class divide. It's very obvious that you are rich in SG simply because you own a vehicle.
smart or not, this isn't about intelligence. It is about creating a society where the really rich & the poor/middle income is noticable.

Nowhere in the world is this more evident than in Singapore.

You rich, you have a car. You poor/middle income, you take public transport. Be happy and deal with it.

I can see why SG is consistently voted as the most unhappy place to live. Simple enjoyment, like having your own vehicle also cannot.  What kind of life is that? tongue.gif

I keep on stressing that the most important thing is how much is the affordability of things in the country, not how much income you make..
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Lame, everything about face and status, looks like you are the one dengki. Keep telling yourself they're unhappy k?
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QUOTE(kekstdve @ Apr 30 2021, 04:05 PM)
Lame, everything about face and status, looks like you are the one dengki. Keep telling yourself they're unhappy k?
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Keep telling yourself that people rather sit MRT than have their own vehicle. tongue.gif

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/singa...ast-asia-survey
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 04:10 PM)
Keep telling yourself that people rather sit MRT than have their own vehicle.  tongue.gif

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/singa...ast-asia-survey
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But Malaysia is second.....!!! So have car, house,etc also not happy?
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-r...es-in-the-world

https://www.atlasandboots.com/travel-blog/h...e-world-ranked/

The UN-sponsored World Happiness Report from the Sustainable Development Solutions Network (SDSN) is particularly interesting as it ranks 149 countries by how happy their citizens perceive themselves to be.

Please see where Singapore is compared to Malaysia....this is for 2021...

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QUOTE(niwde @ Apr 30 2021, 04:47 AM)
HK is Cuntry ?
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A separate economic zone. For now.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Apr 29 2021, 06:38 PM)
USD$110k/yr average income.

That's ~MYR$450k/year based on USD$1=MYR4.1
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Are you sure GDP is a 1-to-1 to average income?
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QUOTE(raymondloh @ Apr 30 2021, 04:13 PM)
But Malaysia is  second.....!!! So have car, house,etc also not happy?
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that's a debate in another section. I'm here to dispel the rumour that it is better to live in SG due to higher income when it is all relative to affordability. When you can't even afford a car in SG, then there's a serious problem. Public transport will never be better than getting around in your own car.

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QUOTE(mitun @ Apr 29 2021, 06:56 PM)
I know some people from there. In the 1950s it was supposedly the Kelantan of Europe where the church was influential in every matter. Looks like there is still hope for Kelantan.
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U mean being liberal?
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Apr 30 2021, 05:08 PM)
that's a debate in another section. I'm here to dispel the rumour that it is better to live in SG due to higher income when it is all relative to affordability. When you can't even afford a car in SG, then there's a serious problem. Public transport will never be better than getting around in your own car.
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of course public transport will never be better than having own car. but then if i can save rm500 a month by taking public transportation i would gladly do. but then malaysia don't have good connectivity and last mile in public transportation. but i work in singapore time i got no problem going anywhere with public transportation.
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QUOTE(FappyBird @ Apr 30 2021, 05:29 PM)
U mean being liberal?
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I think they could develop if they were more liberal. By liberal I don’t mean the US definition of it and all the nonsense that comes with it like the LGBT crap. I mean having a more open mind and being more tolerant.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Apr 30 2021, 05:34 PM)
of course public transport will never be better than having own car. but then if i can save rm500 a month by taking public transportation i would gladly do. but then malaysia don't have good connectivity and last mile in public transportation. but i work in singapore time i got no problem going anywhere with public transportation.
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I have taken public transport from pasir ris to woodlands and it takes time.
More than 1 hour I think
Need to take bus, then train, then bus.
Can't remember need to change train or not.
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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Apr 30 2021, 11:26 PM)
I have taken public transport from pasir ris to woodlands and it takes time.
More than 1 hour I think
Need to take bus, then train, then bus.
Can't remember need to change train or not.
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I used to stay in woodlands and work in changi north. So everyday take bus to tampines interchange then take another bus to changi north. Can also take mrt in tampines when go back but then need to alight at admiralty and then need to walk like 10-15mins.

I remember last time go clark quey then midnight no mrt to go back. Cipot sit there wait till 5 something take 1st train back haha. Luckily after that got night rider bus liao coat $2+ but need 2 hours to reach the place i stay.

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Why no.2 world economy commie chaina mainland not in the list?

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Malaysia also top 10
If everyone declare their assets and income properly brows.gif

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