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Ramjade
post Apr 21 2021, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Apr 21 2021, 01:28 PM)
Is it ok? I saw got free apple share

Commission free trading

My Malaysian fren can apply too

Need to know if there's hidden cost like inactivity fee, option trading fee, withdrawal fee etc

Anyone using?
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Yes ok. One of the good broker. Competitor is tiger. Moomoo is backed by tencent.

Is not commision free. Read properly. Commision free only for US customer. Asia get charged. sad.gif

The fees are straight forward listed. The platform fees does not work like normal platform fees. They call it platform fees but you pay when you make a trade.

Keep in mind you need more than SGD2k to get that free apple share.

QUOTE(TripleStandard Banglasia @ Apr 21 2021, 01:38 PM)
Scam trading platform. Beware.
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Wrong. It's perfectly legit. If scam, people won't be able to withdraw money.
If it's scam, it won't have license to operate in Singapore, HK and US.
If it's a scam, won't be backed by tencent.

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post Apr 21 2021, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Apr 21 2021, 04:34 PM)
S$2700 is not spent, its just deposit and can be used to invest in other stuff right?
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Yup. That's right. You can even withdraw the money you deposit.

QUOTE(alexkos @ Apr 21 2021, 04:36 PM)
I heard got commission fee after 90 days but can't find info.

Also can't find other fees info.
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You didn't look hard enough.
https://www.moomoo.com/en-sg/act/welcome
https://support.futusg.com/en-us/topic76/h5

The closest I can find which is free is pure IB at USD0.35/transaction.

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post Apr 21 2021, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(edwin1002 @ Apr 21 2021, 07:55 PM)
My passport was expired can't apply it. haiz.
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I think you don't need passport. IC can right? I opened tiger using IC.
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post Apr 21 2021, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Apr 21 2021, 08:52 PM)
Anyone know got inactivity fee and withdrawal fee?
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Just Google la.
https://support.futusg.com/en-us/topic120/h5
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post Apr 21 2021, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Apr 21 2021, 09:04 PM)
30sgd withdrawal fee. Mahal la

Can I sign up then sell apple then come back? Will untung?
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It's free when you withdrawal in SGD.
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post Apr 21 2021, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Apr 21 2021, 09:35 PM)
so doable kan? i in 2700, then run with apple share  blush.gif
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Yes doable. But better put in say SGD2800 for exchange reason.
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Apr 21 2021, 09:51 PM)
Dunno how these brokers make money if we buy n hodl, Tiger gave me like SGD 170 in cash vouchers and now Moomoo keep giving ppl AAPL share, how?
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They making more money than giving you free shares.
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post Apr 22 2021, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Apr 21 2021, 11:28 PM)
Tiger better ka? Maresia can apply?
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Are you trying to troll? I already answered here.
QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 21 2021, 08:32 PM)
I think you don't need passport. IC can right? I opened tiger using IC.
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I will be opening Moomoo also once my salary masuk. Useful as have free live price and possible free live price for options.
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post Apr 22 2021, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(kart @ Apr 22 2021, 05:05 AM)
In your opinion, is Moomoo better than Tradestation Global / Interactive Brokers?
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Depends what are you looking for. Pure IBKR is still the cheapest in terms of commission and margin rates.

Only cons is no access to real time price, complex interface.

Moomoo only good for
1) real time price
2) possible real time option price (have not opened so cannot confirm)
3. Free apple shares.
4. Charting
5. US people as they get free trades while we have to pay.

I am only going to open moomoo for 1, 2 & 3. Nothing more.

If moomoo can lower their commision to IB price, and their margin at IB rates, it will be fantastic. Until then we can just dream on.

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post Apr 22 2021, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Apr 22 2021, 12:26 PM)
Holy fucking shit, Moomoo is way faster than Tiger.

Deposit is acknowledged in < 1 min, as opposed to Tiger's 5 minutes.

Their mobile UI and stability, translations etc are done better than Tiger.

I will use both for a few months to see, no harm putting stocks in both accounts, they don't impose custodian or inactivity fees anyway.
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Agreed. Moomoo is superior to tiger in every way. You opened with passport or IC?
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post Apr 22 2021, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Apr 22 2021, 12:47 PM)
Passport, not living in SG.
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They don't accept Malaysian IC?
Cause tiger accept Malaysian IC.

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post Apr 22 2021, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Apr 22 2021, 12:58 PM)
They don't. But MY passport + MY proof of address work just fine.
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Damn. My passport expired. sad.gif
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post Apr 22 2021, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Apr 22 2021, 01:06 PM)
Yikes, apart from this, really no point renewing passport now until we are allowed to travel again.
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Same issue with stashaway. They refuse to let me open unless I have passport. Was going to use stashaway as parking for my money. Thanks.
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post Apr 22 2021, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Apr 22 2021, 03:35 PM)
Are you guys sure it's really commission-free?

I spotted some marketing tricks.

Commission is low and attractive, looks good for promotion on index page of website, but look closely at the "platform fee" part.

https://support.futusg.com/en-us/category11029

So commission-free means you will still be deducted platform fee from your cash/margin account. 

This makes me laugh lol:
They should say:
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It's only commission free if you are US citizen. Otherwise you pay.

Wrong. The platform fees here is only activated and add to your trading coms if you are buying and selling. If there is no activity inside your account, no platform fees. It is not like FSM platform fees which will be minus every quarter. Moomoo call it platform fees but in reality it is just extra commission charged on top of m=normal commission.

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post Apr 22 2021, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Apr 22 2021, 03:47 PM)
Yes extra commission is still commission. The true cost is the commission + "platform fee". (You are right about the US citizen part.)

And even if you don't buy or sell within the same month, any purchase and selling after one-month since last trade will still incur that fee.
So you buy one stock of APPL, not selling it within one month, incur first charge of platform fee. One month later if you sell it, it's another month, so any buy/sell activity more than one month after the last order will result in platform fee being charged. (The fee is charged for cumulative orders per month.) 

That's what I understand. Maybe I am wrong. Feel free to correct me.

EDIT: here's the chinese version, for better understanding. https://support.futusg.com/zh-cn/topic76?lang=zh-cn
So the platform fee is charged once, if the order is fulfilled in multiple blocks.
And the platform fee is based on cumulative orders per month.
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Sell during promo period I think 90 days where it's free. After all the apple shares are free if charge.

QUOTE(mephyll @ Apr 22 2021, 06:06 PM)
Moomoo Tiger all these, is not approved by SC Malaysia, may i know how to ensure it is safe to trade and withdraw back to Malaysia bank account.
Wont it become etoro 2.0?

sorry my question might sound silly.
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Who cares about SC Malaysia. They blocked TD even when it's legit.

Interactive broker not approved by SC Malaysia and yet I still can get my money back into SG bank account. So why bother about SC Malaysia? Their blockage is political.
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post Apr 22 2021, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ Apr 22 2021, 07:02 PM)
Thanks a lot for clarification.
My finance knowledge is limited. Will study the link shared.
Coz my concern is once i deposited to the trading account, my monies sunk into the sea. I dont know how to get the money back if there are issue on withdrawing.
I dont have oversea account. Only Malaysia saving account.
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One of first rule of investing is always study how to deposit and withdraw money. That's the most basic step.
There are better brokers out there than interactive broker but I never bother because hard to withdraw. One such example is webull. We can open webull. Deposit and withdrawing money incur extra cost Vs using Interactive broker route. Hence the reason didn't open webull.

For me, my money overseas is one time ticket. I send my overseas money to my brokerage and never ever withdraw.

Go read the thread below on opening sg bank account. You only need CIMB my account to get started.

QUOTE(TOS @ Apr 22 2021, 07:10 PM)
Haha. Nowhere is stated that the platform fee won't be charged within this 90 day period tongue.gif Caveat emptor guys. 

https://support.futusg.com/en-us/topic128?lang=en-us

What makes you think that incident was political? You got "insider news"?
Well, if they block the trading account website like what happened to Tiger, then you cannot access it via the normal route. You need to modify your Internet settings, use VPN etc. IT-savvies here will find a way out.

For overseas brokerage since they don't base in Malaysia, you need to have a foreign bank account to deposit/withdraw money. Most people choose SG due to its proximity. And people go for CIMB SG/Maybank SG (try not to use Maybank SG...). You can have a look at the "Opening a Bank Account in Singapore" thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1440794/+3320
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Platform fees is only charged when you place a trade (extra commision).

Malaysia have always ban "Forex related stuff" because of Mahathir era. So you be the judge on that.
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post Apr 30 2021, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Apr 30 2021, 01:27 PM)
No idea. But tiger has no platform fee. Also tiger has points which can convert to free commission.

Btw, i have withdrawn all my fund from moomoo. Bye2 moo and thanks for the free apple share.
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If you want the cheapest coms go with pure interactive broker at USD0.35/transaction.
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post May 2 2021, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ May 2 2021, 12:55 PM)
Do they accept depo via wise, instarem, bigpay?
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They already said no third party deposit.
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post May 19 2021, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ May 19 2021, 07:57 PM)
https://ir.futuholdings.com/static-files/58...0c-5ae3aa1d9856
They are not happy with you guys not trading. laugh.gif
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People apply and sell straight away.
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post May 30 2021, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ May 29 2021, 10:47 PM)
Not low at all. CIMB SG direct to MY zero fees, about the same rate.

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Don't look at fees. Look at final amount received. That will tell you who's the cheapest for same amount of money transfering.

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