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post Apr 25 2021, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Apr 24 2021, 12:24 PM)
AirTag’s pricing is cheap after all comparing to competitors. Especially if you buy a pack of 4. Haha.

https://9to5mac.com/2021/04/21/airtag-prici...t50QeEdUyIPvPKU
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The hidden cost is buying the loop for it. But having massive iPhone (iPad) that can communicate and report back the device? That's massive advantage over competitors like Tile.

Apple Msia not having 4 in a pack? Very bad idea....
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post Apr 25 2021, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Apr 25 2021, 02:49 PM)
My only gripe about AirTags is the thickness of it, can't put into a wallet - which is so important to me.

Keys, perhaps so but man - a wallet version would've been perfect like Tiles.
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the Tile version for wallet, is a non-replaceable battery so it's some challenges. But i'm thinking Apple will release more products tiers within AirTags. Even AirPod also have orig and Pro version.
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post Apr 27 2021, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Apr 25 2021, 05:24 PM)
Yup defo, that form factor you can fit in a replaceable battery. But still wishful thinking of a two tier version as well.
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Good guess.. Apple probably doing that. Pro version.

If apple doesn’t is really a missed opportunity.


QUOTE(Susuwatari @ Apr 26 2021, 10:49 AM)
Plenty of cheap loop on Taobao. I am sure you can get it on Shopee as well.
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Yes agreed. But my point was “hidden cost”. Not a big deal but a hidden cost nonetheless. But with Apple network, it’s a game changer.
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post May 24 2021, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(plurbuddyskuppy @ May 24 2021, 01:54 PM)
Gais, Machine will bring pack of 4 for RM459 only, Yahoo!

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But you can’t get engravings. I think most will want some engravings on AirTags.
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post May 28 2021, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 28 2021, 02:46 PM)
Switch can use Grab 80+20 promo. So RM109 for one AirTag. Good if you dun need the 4-pack or if you have lots of Grab wallets.
https://www.grab.com/my/grabpay-blog/win-aw...s-with-grabpay/

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Oh man… I wanted engravings.. that’s why waiting for apple. Wonder why only resellers having it?
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post May 28 2021, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 28 2021, 09:47 PM)
You're correct and I'm sure he's not wrong either.  smile.gif  His presumptions are.

So far I found that it doesn't update if the Airtag is travelling too fast. Even so I'm quite surprised that it managed to update in the middle of the NPE, the 3:33pm update in my post. I was going about 90kmh at that point.

The worst place it can be is an Android/Windows household. It took a very long time, about 4 hours, to update when I left it at my neighbour's who is 0% Apple. But it eventually found something to ping out to.
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Haha.. don’t need to test, many YouTubers and news outlet tested it.

The strength is all the iOS devices. Tile comparatively also take much longer.
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post May 29 2021, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 28 2021, 10:43 PM)
I haven’t seen any local ones on YouTube. Link appreciated if you have. The Airtag itself is pretty good but its strength or weakness will be the network or lack thereof since comparatively fewer idevices in Malaysia. Urban or suburban areas should be ok, I guess. Next round I’m going  a bit further away from the city.
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You wanted local testing of AirTags? Then nope, all are other countries.

I still somehow feel that AirTags will perform better than Tile. I have Tile, it's quite poor in Malaysia due to users but certain other countries it's good.

Waiting for Apple for 4 pack, hope MCO is lifted. I can properly test both AirTags and Tile.
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post May 29 2021, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ May 29 2021, 12:16 AM)
I never tried Tile. My neighbour had the TrackR which was really hopeless. I guess very few TrackR users around. Both of them are at a serious disadvantage since there're already so many iDevice users. I wonder what's the oldest IOS that will communicate with the Airtag. Only IOS 14? or iOS 13 also?
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https://sea.pcmag.com/mobile-phone-accessor...ou-need-to-know

However, in order to track an AirTag, you must be running iOS 14.5 or above on your iPhone or iPadOS 14.5+ on your tablet. (That update is compatible with iPhone 6s and up, including the first- and second-gen iPhone SE, and most iPads).


It's the same concept, it depends on the community. For Apple, there are plenty of non AirTag users part of the community already.
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post May 29 2021, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(kokhoong0624 @ May 29 2021, 12:28 AM)
I tried at Sunway Pyramid. It does not work at all... It works only when about 5m from you, which by that time you can already see the car.
Good for preventing car theft, so might be a good idea to put in an expensive car, in the boot or something where you can hide it.
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Too bad, it would be so cool. To locate where you park your car!!

Hiding in boot or something, doesn't it blocks signal or something.
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post Jun 2 2021, 12:29 AM

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On 6/6, Airtags 4 pack offer at rm439. Save rm20. All resellers listing this on Shopee. Maybe I forgo waiting for Apple MY.
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post Jun 4 2021, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(dreamthief @ Jun 2 2021, 12:29 AM)
On 6/6, Airtags 4 pack offer at rm439. Save rm20. All resellers listing this on Shopee. Maybe I forgo waiting for Apple MY.
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Sales started. Rm439.
ITWORLD even better rm15 voucher.

Rm424 for 4 packs.
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post Jun 5 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(fox_shinoda @ Jun 5 2021, 09:07 AM)
Thanks, just placed my order, cheaper plus getting cashback worth Rm10 too from Shopee
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No problem, good things need to share. I placed order yesterday, today in shipping mode. Can use coins, got cashback coins also.

Just I wanted to have some engravings if order from Apple Malaysia, but with these discount, not worth engraving. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 6 2021, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jun 5 2021, 11:27 PM)
That's a really good price. I should have waited. I bought 2 from Shopee seller with Grab vouchers before it was officially available. Could have used the vouchers for something else. 3rd one I got from Switch when Grab had RM20 rebate promo. Alas no engraving.
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Well, it's okay, can't win them all. I don't engrave anything on all my Apple devices. Somehow AirTags gave me the vibes of "must engrave".

Fate has it, Apple Malaysia no 4-pack. Price too tempting from ITworld.

My cheapskate mind said, either you pay RM129 X 4 for engraving, or when (BIG IF) Apple Malaysia offers 4 pack, I'm paying extra RM20-30 bucks for engraving. *clicks checkout*

and Bro, didn't do any more testing? Was returning to thread to see what else you posting. thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 19 2021, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Sep 10 2021, 11:21 PM)
I’ve done a simple experiment to track my car via AirTag today.

Just sent my honda car to a SC to replace the leaking drive shaft boot last 2 days ago. Picked up just today.
Before sending my car, i put my airTag at the back area, inside the compartment where you have all the tyre jack & stuff. Hid it quite well so that people won’t be able to find it.

I did an improvision of putting my airTag inside a Watson’s round shape tooth floss plastic casing. It fits well surprisingly. Had to cut off the small roll cyclinder inside to properly accomodate the airtag.

Sent the car and went back to my home.
Did monitor via Find My app. So far so good. It did pinpointed exactly where my car is. Before it was parked near the guest area. Then after few hours, i discovered it was parked inside the workshop.

Today i went to pick my car at SC. Went together with my wife on another Honda car.
So we went back with two cars now, with my wife on that car. We went a different route and eventually meet up a local gas station before continuing our journey back home.

But then things get a bit off with the airTag.

Limitation
Airtag didn’t gave the EXACT location of where the car is as quickly as possible.
In other words, airTag SUCKED in giving REAL TIME tracking. I tried checking via Find My app, and the car is still showing up at a roundabout we passed through earlier. I waited and it finally UPDATED the location for almost 28 minutes LATER.  doh.gif
I DID NOT TURN ON Lost Mode because if i do that, then “the thief” would be alerted to its presence if he has an iphone as well right?  hmm.gif

Hypothesis
I guess AirTag is not based on real time GPS TRACKING and only based on Bluetooth & Ultra Wide Band (UWB) where this technology is quite limited.
My wife is using iPhone as well with the latest iOS 14.7 version. And here i thought, my wife’s iphone would constantly broadcasting the signal to give out the location in real time.
So if we have MULTIPLE iphones or i Devices surrounding the airTag, then better signal would be emitted & thus real time location update would be improved?  hmm.gif

Conclusion
AirTag is still a very good device to keep track of your items but don’t expect it to give constant, quick real time location update.

Perhaps other sifus can share your findings here as well.  notworthy.gif
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I won't call it limitation as it's a design. Even competitors like Tile, IT IS NOT a GPS tracker. Having more devices, only helps tracking the location of the device.

You turn on LOST mode, it sounds a beep. Other "thief" with iPhone won't know the presence except the sound it makes.

You need to check out Airtag articles and Youtube video to understand better what it is meant for and how it is design.


QUOTE(Moderna @ Sep 13 2021, 09:10 AM)
Just to confirm, Apple stores don't offer free engraving right?
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Apple Malaysia online provides free engraving. Apple stores = Switch, Machines, they don't.

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post Nov 7 2022, 03:58 AM

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4 AirTags bought last year… finally one got the notification to replace battery.

It’s the one I hid under a bicycle seat. All AirTags I would say I take and use frequently. But this under a plastic casing might use more battery.
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post Dec 11 2024, 11:58 PM

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nagak discuss airtag here. Yes worth buying.

I used for vacation, track luggage, in the carousel, you can see your item coming around.

For more daily use, my dad getting old, tend to misplace the house keys, use it to locate or play sound to find it.

My bike and camera gear, put airtag in case “stolen”.

 

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