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nerdook
post Apr 20 2021, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ Apr 20 2021, 07:41 AM)
Why he goes declared?

Is he dumb?
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If you declare, you pay (at most) 25% of the income as tax.

If you no declare, and LHDN find out, you pay 25% of the income, plus 80-300% of that, so effectively govt will take up to 75% of your profits. And it is pay first talk later, so good luck hiring a lawyer when you need to hand over 3/4 of all your gains, especially if you already "reinvest" it and the market turn into another years long bear market.
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post Apr 20 2021, 07:48 AM

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In the end you still need to convert your crypto to fiat like USD or MYR. That's when they catch you.
kcchong2000
post Apr 20 2021, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Apr 20 2021, 06:40 AM)
kaya but cannot pay tax.
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Not kenot, but dun wan

latipbogiba
post Apr 20 2021, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(Summer Time @ Apr 20 2021, 06:48 AM)
kaya in bitcoins, can pay taxes using bitcoins?
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i likeeeeee this
mois
post Apr 20 2021, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(nerdook @ Apr 20 2021, 07:46 AM)
If you declare, you pay (at most) 25% of the income as tax.

If you no declare, and LHDN find out, you pay 25% of the income, plus 80-300% of that, so effectively govt will take up to 75% of your profits. And it is pay first talk later, so good luck hiring a lawyer when you need to hand over 3/4 of all your gains, especially if you already "reinvest" it and the market turn into another years long bear market.
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Only income from trading are taxable. Those who bought earlier is consider capital gain i think.
Mr.Robert
post Apr 20 2021, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(nerdook @ Apr 20 2021, 07:46 AM)
If you declare, you pay (at most) 25% of the income as tax.

If you no declare, and LHDN find out, you pay 25% of the income, plus 80-300% of that, so effectively govt will take up to 75% of your profits. And it is pay first talk later, so good luck hiring a lawyer when you need to hand over 3/4 of all your gains, especially if you already "reinvest" it and the market turn into another years long bear market.
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This case seems "under-declared"

So easy can find out meh? Oversea trading account let u access meh.
gogocan
post Apr 20 2021, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ Apr 20 2021, 07:59 AM)
This case seems "under-declared"

So easy can find out meh? Oversea trading account let u access meh.
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lhdn can just ask the tax payer to provide le..even foreign bank account also they got access..
DarkAeon
post Apr 20 2021, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 20 2021, 07:25 AM)
Maybe IRB stalk their social media for anyone bragging about their crypto wealth biggrin.gif
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don't have to la. can't talk too much coz i have a non-disclosure in effect. suffice to say, u will be surprised on the technology they used. it is far more sophisticated than you think
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post Apr 20 2021, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Apr 20 2021, 08:30 AM)
don't have to la. can't talk too much coz i have a non-disclosure in effect. suffice to say, u will be surprised on the technology they used. it is far more sophisticated than you think
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Can check all your accounts on all bank and some formula to detect the abnormal and consistent transfer.

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post Apr 20 2021, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(genjo @ Apr 20 2021, 08:40 AM)
Can check all your accounts on all bank and some formula to detect the abnormal and consistent transfer.
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I belif it is the same method/tech that LDHN use to check on share trader's activity (on share market) on whether their profit gained from the trade is a capital gain (non-taxable) or taxable income.
hyunterx
post Apr 20 2021, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Apr 20 2021, 08:30 AM)
don't have to la. can't talk too much coz i have a non-disclosure in effect. suffice to say, u will be surprised on the technology they used. it is far more sophisticated than you think
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when it comes to tax sampai lubang cacing pun buleh cari

when it comes to refund krik krik kirk kirk............................
DukeHyou
post Apr 20 2021, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ Apr 20 2021, 07:41 AM)
Why he goes declared?

Is he dumb?
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no u dumb. this is the only beginning. you think bank negara has no agenda or motive legalising luno etc in malaysia? it's for the long term tax
jyll92
post Apr 20 2021, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Apr 20 2021, 07:57 AM)
Only income from trading are taxable. Those who bought earlier is consider capital gain i think.
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capital gain is not taxable. keep your proof of records. as long u dont do day trading or short term shud be okay

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yiporan
post Apr 20 2021, 09:16 AM

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Probably cash out via lunoo. Easy to trace

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loserguy
post Apr 20 2021, 09:17 AM

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Cukur penjanaan kewangan
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post Apr 20 2021, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Apr 20 2021, 07:45 AM)
He didn't declare la..it was IRB findings
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I dont think IRB is able to find out.
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post Apr 20 2021, 10:21 AM

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As long got a paper trail of any transactions locally, BNM and LHDN can track them down.
Iceman74
post Apr 20 2021, 10:24 AM

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must be golden 2 5 finger laugh.gif
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post Apr 20 2021, 10:26 AM

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Ok
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post Apr 20 2021, 10:26 AM

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Bitcoin traders in here suda sked liao

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