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post May 2 2021, 03:09 PM

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Just tried comparing the premium Rotring Tikky Hi-Polymer lead to Buncho lead. Although a big price difference between the 2 leads, unfortunately the writing feel, smoothness and darkness are almost the same to me. The Rotring is 0.5mm B while the Buncho is 0.5mm 2B.

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Rotring Hi-Polymer lead 0.5mm B - RM12.90 for 12 pcs
Buncho Hi-Polymer lead 0.5mm 2B - RM0.85 for 24 pcs

1 piece of Rotring lead costs RM1.075 while 1 piece of Buncho lead costs RM0.035 which is more than 30X cheaper.

After this I will order some Pentel Ain Stein 2B, 3B and 4B lead to try.. Hopefully there's a noticeable difference. I'm not asking for a big difference, just an appreciable difference will do. Otherwise, I would stick with Buncho. Save me money which is a good thing.

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post May 2 2021, 03:15 PM

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By the way, I'm ordering my last batch of pencils (hopefully) to try before I call it quits. Any experience with any of the mechanical pencils which I shortlisted below?

1. Pentel Smash (likely get one of this, quite expensive this one)
2. Pentel Orenz Metal grip
3. Pentel Graphgear 1000
4. Faber Castell Tk Fine
5. Faber Castell Apollo (cheap, below RM10)
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post May 2 2021, 03:20 PM

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Also, will get another Uni Kuru Toga Roulette in black colour to accompany the silver to complete the collection. I really like the Roulette.
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post May 2 2021, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(teckyuan @ May 1 2021, 11:37 AM)
sorry . no comment on the 925 0.7 on writing perspective even though i have  the choice to choose between the 3 .I bought 0.5  that from kino without considering the 2 .i never use any pencil with lead size other than 0.5 .actually i only use buncho 0.5  never try other lead from other brand .I saw some lead can cost as high as RM10 for a tube .Will try out one day after i finish my buncho .
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I just tried comparing the Buncho 2B (RM0.85) to Rotring Tikky B (RM12.90). Unfortunately both write and feel the same to me. The darkness is also almost the same although the grade is different, B and 2B. I really wanted the Rotring to feel different after paying a considerably high price for it, but it didn't happen.

Will try Pentel Ain Stein after this. Hopefully there will be a difference this time. I too use 0.5mm most of the time. All my mechanical pencils are in 0.5mm. Only the Staedtler 925 is in 0.7mm

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post May 2 2021, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ May 2 2021, 03:29 PM)
I just tried comparing the Buncho 2B (RM0.85) to Rotring Tikky B (RM12.90). Unfortunately both write and feel the same to me. The darkness is also almost the same although the grade is different, B and 2B. I really wanted the Rotring to feel different after paying a considerably high price for it, but it didn't happen.

Will try Pentel Ain Stein after this. Hopefully there will be a difference this time. I too use 0.5mm most of the time. All my mechanical pencils are in 0.5mm. Only the Staedtler 925 is in 0.7mm
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this is the reason why i would rather spend money on pencil than lead itself.thanks ts for sharing your experience!
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post May 2 2021, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(teckyuan @ May 2 2021, 03:46 PM)
this is the reason why i would rather spend money on pencil than lead itself.thanks ts for sharing your experience!
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Yes, same here. Money better spent on pencils. As silly as it sounds, I'm getting another same pencil in different colour since I enjoy the quality and performance of the design. (UKT Roulette).

The Pentel Ain Stein leads vary in price from RM2 to above RM22. Think I'll get 3 boxes at RM5+ each and compare to Buncho before I retire experimenting and playing around. To be frank, the Buncho 2B is good enough already even before I try the better ones. At below RM1 for a box, you cannot ask for more. Surely value for money.
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ May 2 2021, 03:15 PM)
By the way, I'm ordering my last batch of pencils (hopefully) to try before I call it quits. Any experience with any of the mechanical pencils which I shortlisted below?

1. Pentel Smash (likely get one of this, quite expensive this one)
2. Pentel Orenz Metal grip
3. Pentel Graphgear 1000
4. Faber Castell Tk Fine
5. Faber Castell Apollo (cheap, below RM10)
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Currently using no.4 in 0.7mm config. I like the feel of it, quite balanced in my hand. They actually sell a newer version called TK Fine Vario but yet to be introduced in our market.

On your write up for the lead, Buncho has come a long way perfecting it
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post May 2 2021, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Apr 14 2021, 10:39 PM)
Although I love to write using mechanical pencils, I have been using low quality ones throughout my early years either in school and when I started to work. The mechanical pencils either felt too light, the leads keep breaking or become loose when I was writing, or the tip of the lead got slanted which resulted in uneven and smeared letters. Also, some mechanical pencils got broken and stopped working after a while, and they had to be thrown away.

Later throughout the years, I got a better writing experience with a higher quality mechanical pencil with Pilot Supergrip and Flexgrip 0.5mm provided by my company. They really felt good in my hands and they seem to last very long too. So far after more than 2 years of usage, they still work fine and write very well. The leads rarely break too.

The Pilot Supergrip and Rexgrip are rather cheap, about RM3.30 for one piece, surely great value for money. And the common leads from brands such as Pilot and Buncho are very cheap too, and most importantly they are good. Having said that, I've never tried better mechanical pencils and leads, hence the purpose of this thread.

Just today out of curiosity, I've actually made an online purchase for the Staedtler 925-25, 925-35 and UnikuruToga Roulette. It's not of an impulse buy as have never owned a high quality mechanical pencil before. My question is, do the leads really matter? The Buncho and Pilot 2B polymer leads only cost RM0.60 to 0.80 around that range, but the upmarket brands of polymer lead cost up to RM12 or higher.

I just bought the Rotring Tikky polymer lead for RM12.90, and there are only 12 pieces. The Buncho leads only cost RM0.64 for 24 pieces. Big price difference.

Back to the question, does the quality of lead matter, and if yes what is usually recommended? There is a huge price difference between the Buncho / Pilot polymer leads and the boutique brands from the likes of Rotring etc.
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Oot but what pens do you use? I'm using Faner Castell Grip X7 but they suck after i dropped them a couple of times.
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post May 2 2021, 05:56 PM

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My collection.

Pretty new, haven’t tried all the leads I bought yet. Haven’t been writing much.
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QUOTE(veiven @ May 2 2021, 05:56 PM)
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My collection.

Pretty new, haven’t tried all the leads I bought yet. Haven’t been writing much.
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I still keep the Pilot Super Grip gifted to me by my late ex.
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post May 2 2021, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(rtk74 @ May 2 2021, 04:18 PM)
Currently using no.4 in 0.7mm config. I like the feel of it, quite balanced in my hand. They actually sell a newer version called TK Fine Vario but yet to be introduced in our market.

On your write up for the lead, Buncho has come a long way perfecting it
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Yes, I read your earlier post on the Tk-Fine 9717 0.7mm. I was looking at the Tk-Fine 9715 0.5mm which is selling at about RM20. The Vario is sold mainly in Taiwan, saw some on Shopee. Anyway it's too expensive, above RM100 I think.

Will see how it goes. Will wrap up the adventure with this final purchase.
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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 2 2021, 04:30 PM)
Oot but what pens do you use?  I'm using Faner Castell Grip X7 but they suck after i dropped them a couple of times.
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Currently the pencils freshly bought last month are ;

1. Uni Kuru Toga Roulette 0.5mm (silver)
2. Uni Kuru Toga Advance 0.5mm (black)
3. Zebra Delguard Lx Limited Edition 0.5mm (silver)
4. Staedtler 925-35 0.7mm (dark blue)

Looking to add some of the following by this month before I quit ;
1. Uni Kuru Toga Roulette 0.5mm (black)
2. Pentel Smash 0.5mm
3. Pentel Orenz Metal grip 0.5mm
4. Faber Castell Tk-Fine 9715 0.5mm
5. Faber Castell Apollo 0.5mm
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post May 3 2021, 12:26 PM

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Moderator, can request to move this thread to the original section where I posted? I posted this thread on the Hobby and Collectibles section but someone reported that this thread is in the wrong section and subsequently it was moved over here. Personally I feel this thread belongs to the Hobby section as collecting Mechanical pencils can be considered as a hobby.
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post May 3 2021, 12:30 PM

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Just ordered the following pencils, awaiting delivery
1. Uni Kuru Toga Roulette
2. Uni Kuru Toga Rubber grip
3. Pentel Smash (x2 in different colours)
4. Faber Castell Apollo

Faber Castell Tk Fine 0.5mm and Pentel Orenz Metal grip 0.5mm are currently out of stock.
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post May 3 2021, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(ramscott @ May 1 2021, 01:26 AM)
Where did you get your case from?[COLOR=red]
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Lihit Lab, you can search in Shopee or Lazada
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post May 3 2021, 04:03 PM

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haha, another mechanical pencil thread. I can post out one of my most expensive mechanical pencils, the Staedler Reg 925 85-05.

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post May 3 2021, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(junclj @ May 3 2021, 04:03 PM)
haha, another mechanical pencil thread. I can post out one of my most expensive mechanical pencils, the Staedler Reg 925 85-05.

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It's the same thread as I requested the moderator to move this thread back to this Hobby and Collectible section. Not too sure who requested this thread to be removed from this section earlier last month.

Just checked on the Staedtler 925-85-05. Looks like this is discontinued model but Ebay has a listing selling a brand new one at USD125 which is equivalent to RM512.50.

The total 11 pencils which I paid for RM419.74 still cost less than your high-end Staedtler. Must be something special the 925-85-05.
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post May 9 2021, 04:25 PM

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Would like to check with folks who own Kuru Toga pencils. Does anyone experience a defective Kuru Toga pencil whereby the rotation of the pencil is erratic? In other words, the rotating mechanism does not rotate perfectly when you write and is stuck at one position as you write.

It is unfortunate that I just discovered my 2nd Kuru Toga Roulette is defective whereby the rotating mechanism does not rotate when I am writing. On the window, the logo was stuck at a position when I was writing and did not rotate. As a result, the lines are thick and smeared. It was only when I rotated the pencil on my own with my fingers to write on the sharp tip, then only the rotating mechanism of the Kuru Toga started to rotate ie. the logo on the window of the pencil started to move.

I opened up the tip of the pencil to inspect and tried rotating the thing with my fingers but all attempts failed to get the pencil to work properly. I was just wondering if any of you guys experienced a DEFECTIVE Kuru Toga pencil whereby the mechanism does not rotate properly or does not rotate at all. I can pin-point the problem as I have 2 Kuru Toga Roulette pencils. The other pencil works perfectly like a charm when I write. The logo on window of the pencil rotates perfectly without stopping as I counted every alphabet when I write. The logo on the window completes a full circle with approximately 20 alphabets without a miss. On the other hand, the logo on the window of the defective Roulette does not rotate and gets stuck for a long time even when I was writing..

Has anyone encountered this issue with any of your Kuru Toga pencils and managed to rectify the problem to get it working as normal?
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post May 9 2021, 04:31 PM

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By the way, if anyone wants a lighter B lead, please let me know if you want to swap with my Rotring Tikky B. Still intact with 12 leads inside albeit 1 lead is just slightly shorter. I'm looking to swap with similar Rotring Tikky 3B or 4B.

Send me a PM if interested, Klang Valley.

ps. this may be an unfair comparison since the grade of lead is different, but I actually find the Buncho 2B lead to write better than Rotring Tikky B lead as the Buncho is slightly smoother and darker. The Rotring Tikky B will be suitable for people who want a lighter shade.
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post May 9 2021, 04:36 PM

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I just ordered additional Kuru Toga pencils (Rubber Grip and Advance Upgrade) since the 2nd Roulette pencil is defective.

I've also received the Pentel Smash earlier. The grip of the pencil is good and comfortable, but as I expected, nothing beats a good working Kuru Toga really. With all other pencils, you would need to rotate the pencil on your own using your fingers if you want to maintain the sharpness of the lines. With the Kuru Toga, you don't need to rotate the pencil as it does its job for you, provided the mechanism is not defective of course.

The Pentel Smash looks unique though, and I bought them mainly for collection due to the nice colours, as crazy as it may sound.

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